Fox News' Scott claims hacked emails "suggest some scientists manipulate data on global warming"
November 25, 2009 1:44 pm ET
From the November 25 edition of Fox News' Happening Now:
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And I can claim that Dick Chenney purposely shoot his bird hunting partner.
That doesn't make that true but; I can claim that.
1.First, the scientists discuss manipulating data to get their preferred results. The most prominently featured scientists are paleoclimatologists, who reconstruct historical temperatures and who were responsible for a series of reconstructions that seemed to show a sharp rise in temperatures well above historical variation in recent decades.
2.Secondly, scientists on several occasions discussed methods of subverting the scientific peer review process to ensure that skeptical papers had no access to publication
3.Finally, the scientists worked to circumvent the Freedom of Information process of the United Kingdom
So, they fudged the data to change the results. They worked to prevent articles from being published by scientists who dont support the global warming theory, and they hid information, and destroyed others, which was required by the freedom of information act.
What more do you need to know about this. These are the true 'deniers'.
Here is what George Monbiot is saying:
"I have seldom felt so alone. Confronted with crisis, most of the environmentalists I know have gone into denial. The emails hacked from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia, they say, are a storm in a tea cup, no big deal, exaggerated out of all recognition. It is true that climate change deniers have made wild claims which the material can't possibly support (the end of global warming, the death of climate science). But it is also true that the emails are very damaging. The response of the greens and most of the scientists I know is profoundly ironic, as we spend so much of our time confronting other people's denial. Pretending that this isn't a real crisis isn't going to make it go away. Nor is an attempt to justify the emails with technicalities. We'll be able to get past this only by grasping reality, apologising where appropriate and demonstrating that it cannot happen again.
One of the most damaging emails was sent by the head of the climatic research unit, Phil Jones. He wrote "I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow - even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!" [...] Even so, his message looks awful. It gives the impression of confirming a potent meme circulated by those who campaign against taking action on climate change: that the IPCC process is biased. However good the detailed explanations may be, most people aren't going to follow or understand them. Jones's statement, on the other hand, is stark and easy to grasp.
If you take the wording literally, in one case he appears to be suggesting that emails subject to a request be deleted, which means that he seems to be advocating potentially criminal activity. Even if no other message had been hacked, this would be sufficient to ensure his resignation as head of the unit. I feel desperately sorry for him: he must be walking through hell. But there is no helping it; he has to go, and the longer he leaves it, the worse it will get. He has a few days left in which to make an honourable exit. Otherwise, like the former Speaker of the House of Commons, Michael Martin, he will linger on until his remaining credibility vanishes, inflicting continuing damage to climate science.
In other words, the university knew what was coming three days before the story broke. As far as I can tell, it sat like a rabbit in the headlights, waiting for disaster to strike. When the emails hit the news on Friday morning, the university appeared completely unprepared. There was no statement, no position, no one to interview. Reporters kept being fobbed off while CRU's opponents landed blow upon blow on it. When a journalist I know finally managed to track down Phil Jones, he snapped "no comment" and put down the phone. This response is generally taken by the media to mean "guilty as charged". When I got hold of him on Saturday, his answer was to send me a pdf called "WMO statement on the status of the global climate in 1999". Had I a couple of hours to spare I might have been able to work out what the heck this had to do with the current crisis, but he offered no explanation.
But the deniers' campaign of lies, grotesque as it is, does not justify secrecy and suppression on the part of climate scientists. Far from it: it means that they must distinguish themselves from their opponents in every way. No one has been as badly let down by the revelations in these emails as those of us who have championed the science. We should be the first to demand that it is unimpeachable, not the last."
I can see the goofs on the right running wild with this one. It was on MSNBC as well.
Oh my Global Warming is a fraud, a sham, a made up suggestion!< Inmitating the right-winged loons!>
1. the scientists altered the data to show different results.
The results they wanted to show, and to hide the real results.
If man made global warming is real, why do you need to fake
the data?
2. Supression of discenting papers. The e-mails reveal
conversations about how to supress papers from authors the
scientists did not agree with, to prevent peer review. They
spoke about getting editors fired for publishing discenting
papers. If man made global warming is real, there is
consensus, why do you need to supress discenters works?
No wonder these scientists talk about consensus, they have
tried to eliminate anyone from being opposed to their theory.
3. The scientists have intentionally withheld data, and have
destroyed data. This is not how science is supposed to work,
data must be released so other scientists can see if it is
accurate. Why hide information, or destroy it, other than to
prevent the truth from getting out. This is illegal and
against the law. It is a crime.
I suppose Colonel, you think that faking the data, blocking others from publishing contradicting papers, hiding and destroying data is just fine. No problem. The end justifies the means. Not this time. We are not going to let you get away with it.
And besides, there is a lot more to come out from these emails.
Show me where all the warming is? Maybe this explains the e-mails.
Why'ncha start there, once you've settled down a little. And try to filter out all of the opinions you read at the denier sites, and focus on the facts. Good luck.