Beck: "Progressives have built up this wall of separation between church and state, and it's nonsense"
November 25, 2009 5:49 pm ET
From the November 25 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:
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That is, cons I know who grew up in the 50s seem upset about everything that happened after the 50s, same for people who were kids in the 60s, 40s, etc.
They all have some imaginary utopia that really seems to be about them not having to work and just playing all day.I think they get really protective of Jesus because of the trauma of losing Santa. But that's just my opinion.
Back when mom was always in the kitchen in her dress, apron and pearl necklace, waiting for father to return from the office to speak to Bud about those magazines he found in the drawer.
And dad had to sit in his chair with his pipe waiting for Kitten's first boyfriend to come knocking on the door.
I think a lot of them would also like to see the events of 1963 and 1968 repeated.
Some, hopefully, not all.
Funny you should mention gay uncles. My gay uncle is a commie and an abortionist. He's hit the progressive trifecta. But unfortunately, he's a white devil.
Some "conservative" will join us shortly and explain that Thomas Jefferson pulled "Separation of Church and State" out of his arse while on a drunk, and nobody ever used it before or since.
The truth is that James Madison (aka "Father of the Constitution") used that phrase (or minor variations) several times in his writings.
It is not a concept "made up" by Progrssives.
"no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
So wait mjh, one minute Beck says that the constitution is "just a g-d piece of paper" and then he says we need to go back to the roots of where the it was founded on? How does that make sense? But then again nothing that Beck says ever makes sense.
I wonder if he'll offer any art courses...seeing he's such an "expert" and all.. ;)
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear."
Not to mention, his favorite TJ said "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State"
Apparently, Thomas Jefferson whom he constantly quotes is a progressive. Does that make Glenn Beck a progressive?
They always seem to miss the second part...
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State.
--Thomas Jefferson
I'd certainly like to take credit for that Glenn, but then, unlike you, I try to be honest.
Yeah Glenn, just what the world needs right now: Madrassas with Crosses.
Their new Prophet Brigham Young was said to have been directed by God to move West in 1847 where they decided to settle in what is now Salt Lake City Utah.
I don't know if you can say this was the fault of progressives or if their religious beliefs were to far out of the main stream. Many of the Mormom Founders had multiple wives and some still do. Warren Jepps who now is in Prison serving time because of arranging marriages of young underage women with older men.
I have known many, many LDS in my life and none of them even come close to what Glenn Beck represents. He cherry picks from all religious beliefs if he thinks it will benefit his cause.
Do you ever hear the Amish speak out about their country? They practice what they preach.
Must have been in the 19th century, right?
Try 1978.
I highly recommend Thomas Jefferson - In His Own Words.
While Jefferson's style is no easy read, this book contains no interpretation, no selective editing, just what he thought and wrote, including The Jeffersonian Bible.
Anyone who buys a word of what this gold shill says is stupid beyond the point of sanity. They are a danger to themselves and anyone unfortunate enough to come across them. It's time to send them to the private sector mental wards and see how much they like their insurance.
As progressive as those people may have been for their time, they lived in an entirely different world than we do.With the always accelerating pace of knowledge, science and technology, we're more different from the founders than they were from those in the 16th century.
I got an email from one of my regular wingnut sites this morning. It was written by Newt Gingrich, and basically an order to all Americans to thank God on Thanksgiving. As support for his point, he mentioned a painting of some Pilgrims on their way to the New World who were praying on the ship.
It's fine with me if others want to run their lives as if they were getting on a sailboat to cross an uncharted ocean, and lacking the last 3 or 4 hundred years of human knowledge.Knock yourselves out, but please don't be offended if I'm not getting in on that. I don't believe in demons, I do believe in antibiotics, I have a lot of differences of opinion with people from several hundred years ago.
And Fox News should not even be broadcasting on Sundays.
I still can't buy liquor until after noon on Sunday. This is an infringement on my religious practice - the consumption of sacramental beer during NFL football.
Ratified in 1791! LET IT GO BECKY! SMH!
During the colonial period, Baptists, among others were, strong supporters of such separation. Now, many of them pretend that the wall doesn't exist, or shouldn't exist.
That guy is living in lala land!
Yeah, Beck, why don't you talk more about what the founding fathers had to say about religion?
IOW, it's way beyond the Neocon level.
Gentlemen
The affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state. [Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from presenting even occasional performances of devotion presented indeed legally where an Executive is the legal head of a national church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect.] Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
(signed) Thomas Jefferson
Jan.1.1802.
Nope, the First Amendment grants freedom of religion. There's your imaginary wall, Beck.
Our founders came to this country for religious freedom, not this.
I wonder if the mysterious Welsh inscription on the steps of the monument hold some secret meaning too... can somebody borrow Beck's secret decoder ring?
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Dear Glenn Beck:
If you find the separation of Church and State so nonsensical, please leave the USA and go to a country where it is nonexistent.
Like the Vatican.
Signed,
The Sane World
I give him about a day. Maybe a day and a half if he gets a running start . . .