Matthews: Obama "went to maybe the enemy camp tonight" at West Point
December 01, 2009 9:14 pm ET
From the December 1 edition of MSNBC's presidential address coverage:
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Politics is about power. Politics is about control. Politics is about conning enough people to think you will do what is in their best interest while stabbing them in the back. Politics is spending as much money as possible to pay off your supporters.
I could go on and on about how corrupt and ruthless politics are but the internet doesn't have that much capacity.
Matthews works as a focus-fractured talking head for MSNBC. Fauxliberal works as a professional troll for the Faux News Channel. MSNBC is a rival of Faux News, and is constantly (and incorrectly) being accused by rabid wingnuts of being the liberal equivalent of the Faux News Channel. Matthews is therefore incorrectly perceived by Fauxliberal as an opponent of the neoconservativism that is promoted so incessantly and so shamlessly on Faux News.
In her usual sycophantic way, Fauxliberal is just sticking up for her employer's best interests.
You post the BS you glean from your heroes on Fox . . . you are almost NEVER correct. That's why people rarely EVER agree with anything you say.
Matthews proves once again he's a sputtering piece of pathetic, corporate news crap.
Do you really believe that Ratings= Truth? Or are you just so out of ideas that you just spout ancient, dead-horse cliche's without even thinking about how inane they are?
Glenn Beck's ratings on Fox are pretty good. I guess that means he's NOT a drooling lunatic carnival barker haunted by paranoid prosecutions fantasies?
And that SpongeBob Squarepants is apparently more truthful than FOX?
Do you even check your garbage before you post.
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/beck-leaving-cnn-for-fox-news/
"Fire when Ready."
BOOM!
"On Friday, May 4th, Glenn Beck's show was the lowest rated show in all of prime time cable news and was the 2nd lowest in all of cable news between 5pm and midnight.
In fact, The Glenn Beck show on Headline News is routinely among the lowest rated programs in primetime cable news.
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Donahue was on in the same time slot as Fox’s Bill O"Reilly. But the show didn’t last long. In fact, it didn’t even last a year, even though it was MSNBC"s top-rated program. When Donahue was fired, the network moved to hire a string of right-wing hosts.
"Target destroyed!"
"Cease fire!"
Epic Fail
I cant stop laughing
Am I supposed to provide you a link to Glenn Beck being quoted as saying "Yes, I suck and my program at Headline News got low ratings?" Am I supposed to provide you a Fox News link proving that Beck got low ratings at HLN, when Fox News has a vested interest in NOT reportring that? I"m the one who's laughing at your flailing attempts to conduct spin control.
Short of that, try these links:
Here. Here. Here. and here.
There's just no denying it. Beck sucked at HLN and got a big contract to go to Fox. In cable TV terms, Donahue excelled at MSNBC and got fired.
If his ratings were crap, you'd all not hate the guy so much.
But since he pulls in between 2.5 and 3.2 million every day at FIVE PM, he's dangerous to you libs.
Here's an idea.....don't lie about low ratings for conservative/libertarian hosts. There's conservatives here that will gladly fact-check you.
Have you heard that global warming is a scam?
Chris! Shut the hell up for a minute and think before you open your mouth. Didn't the Christian Brothers teach you anything?
The cadets behaved as they should have---giving the president their full attention and respect while he spoke.
And notice how cool they were to Obama after the speech---reaching out to shake his hand and getting their pictures taken with him.
thank you to Mini and LKL for clarifying. :)
This is one of those times...
I didn't wonder why he said it, I just wonder what it meant. What did he mean by that? Who does he think is the enemy, and of who? Obama?
If we figure he is knee jerk CIA, it gives a clue what they are thinking.
He should definitely apologize to the troops.
P.S. MMFA censor, when will my posts be posted in real time? This time lag is very annoying.
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The Commander-in-Chief speaking to his his own future officers constitutes "going to an enemy camp"??
Tweety, why do you hate the troops?
I watched the entire analysis on MSNBC last night and I saw and heard Matthews say this. He was merely making a comparison between how he perceived the troops and the faculty when Wolfowitz spoke there and when Obama spoke there. It was his observation that based on the demeanor of the audience, Obama was not in an "obama" country envirnonment. Perhaps there is some validity to that. Let's not pretend that the President and his advisors chose this format for no reason at all. Like it or not, this is a very serious decision which unfortunately carries serious political risk as well. I would submit that West Point is not a bastion of liberalism. The President needed to make this case in front of those who perhaps are not avid supporters. I think he did a great job. But, there is a little more to Matthews' statement here than MMA is trying to showcase. Besides, we all know that for some reason MMA has a h@rd on for Matthews anyway. for you participants here, watch his show for a solid week and you'll see he isn't the conservative monster MMA portrays him to be. In fact, he does probably the best job out of most in taking it to GOP guests. My point is that: simply based on this 35 second clip, it seems disingenious to me to conclude that Matthews is asserting that the military hates Obama or he was disappointed that he didn't act like Bush, or Matthews is plain stupid. I've met the man once at a presentation he did in Bristol, Va. He is anything but stupid, folks.
He does have a tendency to just say whatever he's thinking and sometimes it doesn't come out too well. I've got that same problem myself.
Matthews did not make a poor choice of words. He made an idiotic statement that no one who is knowledgeable should even think, let alone say.
I've visited a few righty sites, and saw this on tv last night, and what's interesting is that many on the far right are seeing this as a "leftist" (yeah they consider Matthews a lefty) slipping up and admitting that the military is the enemy of liberals.
I posted a polite comment at one site explaining that most on the left don't consider Matthews a hero, and he's probably only considered a "leftist" to those on the far right.The response I got was that I was embarrassed at having to cover for the guy I had just said I had no great admiration for.
I do see Matthews, at least occasionally, showing some brains and perspective, at least in the world of tv infotainment news, I don't think he's stupid, but he does sometimes fall right into conservative mythology, and does seem to speak before engaging his brain at times.
You so badly want to express your true inner hatred of this country and all that it stands for - and like racists at a family gathering you think that everyone agrees. But then viola, you open your trap, it comes out and you realize that your truthiness is disgusting to most Americans. You quickly try to backtrack, but the best you can do is a rather inartful, clumsy, excuse ridden "yeah, but what I meant was still correct", blundering rationalization.
Sweet.