Fox & Friends CRU email segment: Climate change denial? Check. Email falsehoods? Check. Outrage? Check.
December 02, 2009 8:13 am ET
From the December 2 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:
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Doocy on whether or not the media will cover CRU emails: [T]hat's one of the charms of the Fox News Channel. I mean, that, you know, we talk about a lot of stuff that you simply do not hear anywhere else."
Previously:
That would be like having to pay a tax each time it rains, or each day the sun shines, these things will always happen no matter what man does. The only idiots around here are those that think that climate can be controlled by man.
If it makes you feel better you can send me a $1,000 bucks and I will plant a trees on my land in your name.
Australia votes down cap and scam....Check.
Finally, why would anyone be against finding alternative energy resources? what do we stand to lose by curbing pollution some? Cleaning air and water? A better environment for our children and our children's children. There may be a dispute about global warming but there is no dispute that pollution is bad for the environment in general. And you do realize that the oil will run dry in THE ENTIRE WORLD within this century. There is a reason why fossil fuel is called a non-renewable resource - it literally take centuries to form and we are using it up at a rapid pace. Why not prepare for that day when oil will no longer fuel our transportation or industries? Why not start developing and implementing alternative energy resources now so that we don't have a catastrophe when oil prices skyrocket due to limited supplies? Why continue to rely on foreign nations to proovide the fuel for our entire economy? Why not find and use cheaper and cleaner methods? This isnt just about global warming - this is about cleaning up our air and water, making our only planet cleaner and preparing for the inevitable.
All conservatives I know aren't for destroying the earth. They are for a more fiscally responsible switch to alternative sources. Science hasn't found a way to produce solar energy at night. Energy storage (batteries) are substandard for the job we want them to do. The wind doesn't blow all of the time. If we would take half of the money we currently spend on junk climate science and put it into developing alternative sources then we would have half of it to put towards this enormous deficit. The amount of money we spend just to scare people into doing the right thing is obscene. We don't need scientists making up fairytales and shoving them down our throats as facts, to make the world a better place.
We don't need the expensive scams that pop up when people buy things that make them feel like they are doing something when it is actually worse. Fear and self-loathing are extremely powerful emotions. When you allow politicians that much power over your emotions then you might as well practice bowing to kings.
You are also wrong on australia - that weakened cap and trade. I dont think the concept has been entirely abandoned. And it was mainly because of australia's high baseline which was based on a single yr in 1990 in which australia had particularly high levels. Thus, the laws were altered.
Even the Green Party voted against the bill in Australia's Senate, because it was a lousy bill calling for a 5 percent reduction.
Read the whole article here...
So eyes jus decided to ignore the facts and forms my own opin'n.
It is a false thingy.
Looks like gs-425 has gone off the rails.
"pop?" What the heck is that?
Totally frustrated that the denial arguments are falling flat.
They really thought they had something there with the CRU "scandal."
But, they still need that conspiracy thing to make their arguments work. They just can't define what that conspiracy is, can't they?
So, they just resort to nonsense - "pop."
I remember the first time I crossed swords with gs-425. I did a point-by-point rebuttal of all he'd said, and his response to me was--get this--"progection." It wouldn't have made any sense even if he was bright enough to spell it correctly. The guy is a dimbulb even by neocon standards.
I mentioned that the RedState writer was being disingenuous, and pointed out specifically where. When I checked back, there was a response;
"He's not being disingenuous, you are !"
That was it, just the "Nah ah, you suck !" reflex.
It was followed by another reply, from a wingnut who "loved the smell of burning troll in the morning".
They actually think this is substance.
Or their site might just be down.
Makes me appreciate this site even more, where the right wingers are encouraged to post and help to discredit themselves. Obviously, RedState is afraid of disgreement. I am really enjoying the fact that I was banned for pointing out that their cries of censorship (a liberal blogger giving his opinion on Cheney's media attention) were BS.
More fascist tactics from the far right.
I lasted about an hour on that site before being censored.They sure do like to compete in the marketplace of ideas, them right wingers.
Come back with an explanation on how that conspiracy model works.
That part till eludes us - and the deniers too.
Pop! Busted! Whatev!
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'Or, are you going to demand CNN "Fact Check" him like they did SNL? ' doesn't seem to have anything to do with anything here, and it's not clear what the choice you're implying with the "or" is.
Glad to help.
Indeed. That IS one of the charms of the Fox News Channel, and they should get credit for raising issues that don't get raised anywhere else. So should supremacist groups, suicide cults, and cannibal tribes.
Hey, they don't get to raise their views....
More's the pity.
The media got on this 10 years ago? Im glad that fox itself doesn't consider itself part of the media.
Of course the morning shows see the world getting warmer. They're going into the studio in the chilly morning hours, and seeing noticeable warming when they leave at noon.
The afternoon people are coming in when the Sun (or "God's Space heater") is high in the sky, and leaving in the evening, as the moon (Nighttime Sun) comes to work, and the world cools off.
The Fox Scienticians discovered these trends quite a while ago.
Wonder what Fox News ment while talking of climate change we saw film footage showing the polar ice decreasing.
Darwin and Evolution still rages today, to the bafflement of most scientist and educators, but of course you'll be able to find those out there who are scientist who will cater to the Christian Right and say evolution is false.
Current topic is Climate Change, which every scientist through out the world has peer reviewed and validate. Those who deny it are just those who stand to lose something if there are policy changes. In this case, it's the oil and power companies, which pay a lot to fuel the "junk science" believers.
Stem Cell research has become politicized for religious reasons... PETA attacks scientific progress.
Who knows what's next... DNA is a myth? Gravity is just a theory.
To the bafflement of almost the entire world because it only rages in the US.
Not sure what you're saying about PETA though. How are they attacking scientific progress?
Not really, though most other nations' media don't give it the heavy play of the US. I read other blogs and some deal with ID/Evolution as part of their function, and have read of many non-US events and 'woo-artists' who push for anti-science. IIRC, there was one Muslim who wrote a lengthy 'disproof' of Evolution, based on the Qu'ran.
Penn & Teller showed how one of the Vice Presidents of PETA is a diabetic and gets daily injections of a drug that she freely admits, contains animal products. The quote they used from her stated "I don't see myself as a hypocrite, I need my life to fight for the rights of animals."
The Fox and Friends hosts truly revel in their ignorance. They are proud to be uninquisitive. It's anti-intellectualism on display in all it's ingloriousness.