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No. He. Didn't. O'Reilly repeatedly calls for federal sales tax to pay for deficit

December 03, 2009 8:52 pm ET

From the December 3 edition of The O'Reilly Factor:

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    • Author by Bad News (December 03, 2009 8:53 pm ET)
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      "Bill-O the Clown"


      Keith Olbermann
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      • Author by Bad News (December 03, 2009 9:04 pm ET)
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        700 billion spent on the War in Iraq with Borrowed Money?
        Bill O'Reilly never mentioned a Sales Tax back then so this one sounds a little Funny.
        To Compare Bill O'Reilly to a Clown is i know an Insult to all Clowns.
        Is he a Loon? Is he a Buffoon? Is he a Clown? No, it's Bill-O Wearing his Burger King Crown.

        Speak truth to power.


        Mr. News
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    • Author by vonbargen9388 (December 03, 2009 8:57 pm ET)
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      His egotism is unbounded. He's not just arguing with a guest, he's arguing with his own network's financial expert.
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    • Author by ProgLib (December 03, 2009 9:25 pm ET)
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      hey bill, why didnt you offer to be president bush's "economic adviser"? oh thats right... because you got tax cuts from bush while the middle class (or as you like to call them, "the folks") were hit hard with big tax hikes and suffered financially. so it was all good, huh? you got what you wanted... you gave him an attaboy every time he made you proud, and he was in office for 8 years while you enjoyed a free ride economically.

      goodie for billo.
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    • Author by snoopy (December 03, 2009 9:35 pm ET)
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      "Obama should commit political suicide and call for a federal income tax to pay for the war. This will make him a one term president and gaurantee republican majorities for the next ten years regardless of the fact that republicans created this mess in the first place, but by democrats sacraficing stewardship of the country by committing such a noble act you can gaurantee that republicans will look at the opposing party in a more favorable light and they will stop looking at the (R) or (D) in the title and vote for principles from here on out. (as long as the person in question adheres to the republican 10 point principles of conservatism litmus test, that is)..."
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    • Author by thundavolt (December 03, 2009 9:37 pm ET)
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      "This is why I am imploring President Bush..." That right there say it all. These people are sick and just because Obama is black hey do not consider him the President and never will. They will come up with these pathetic ideas and think because they are part of the Christian White Male Power structure they are better. I'm calling it what it is now.

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      • Author by bewildered (December 04, 2009 7:17 am ET)
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        I thought I heard O'Reilly say "President Bush" 4:23

        Slip of the tongue?? I guess he can't get his mind off Bush.
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (December 03, 2009 10:27 pm ET)
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      National sales tax for war means the one who makes the least sweat to pay a larger portion of income.
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    • Author by Handyman (December 03, 2009 11:00 pm ET)
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      Here is a list of some other taxes that would probably help pay off the deficit also Bill.

      1. Get rid of all tax exemptions, including those for religious entities.

      2. Implement a tax that doubles the price of alcohol by the drink or container as they did with cigarettes.

      3. Implement a tax in the form of royalities on all oil, gas, or coal leases held on federal lands, now or in the future.

      4. Get rid of all tax exemptions and subsidies to the agriculture community, make them stand on their own two feet like all other business ventures.

      5. Implement a road tax for all vehicles based on their weight and the actual impact they have on road wear and tear.

      6. Implement a 50% tax on all political donations above $100.

      7. Get rid of grazing rights and water rights and make those groups pay fair market value for using those resources.

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      • Author by oscar the grouch (December 04, 2009 12:52 am ET)
           
        There are some other measures to look at also
        A. End all corporate "welfare"
        B. Eliminate duplicate government programs
        C. Cut Congressional Junkets
        D. Cut Congressional Staffs
        E. Sell off some federal assets (land, buildings, etc)

        I assume in 7 above, you are also suggesting municipalities pay their fair share also. Ending all tax exemptions and subsidies to the agricultural community will drive up food prices and make us more dependent on agricultural imports (fresh fruits and vegetables grown in countries without SWDAs, anybody?). Subsidies do promote overproduction in some areas to be sure and should be eliminated, but one may also be looking at $10 loaves of bread, $8/lb fresh vegetable and produce. Need to be a little careful here, but there does need to be better oversight in some areas (using resources already in place). Did you know that the Dept of Agriculture (Federal) has more employees than are employed full time in the Ag sector?
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        • Author by fantagor (December 04, 2009 2:52 am ET)
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          All the items on your list are nice, but you're pointing out small fries midst whale tails:

          THE PENTAGON

          That geometry abomination, which we maintain to preserve our global empire, was budgeted to cost 700 BILLION dollars this year, without the cost of a SINGLE WAR included. Do we need bases in over 730 military installations in 50+ COUNTRIES around the world? Seriously, what are we guarding against? Germany's next beer hall putsch? Japan's next incursion into China? This madness of policing the globe must cease, in addition to the madness in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pakistan is an utter frightening mess. But are we making it better by staying longer? Name one uninvited guest at your house who made things better the longer they stayed, say, months or years. Same here, zero. And name one country that has successfully occupied the Middle East. Nada again.

          Randy
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          • Author by Handyman (December 04, 2009 10:14 am ET)
               
            Very good point!!
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 11:41 am ET)
               
            I agree with you, but that is an almost impossible task politically. We have too many immature brains in adults here. Why do we still have bases everywhere we have ever been? That's an excellent question. America is the world's worst houseguest. We never know when to leave.

            But, taking a stand against the military industrial complex is a tough one. I think Gates and Obama deserve an immense amount of credit for what they have already done. And, all they did was discontinue some projects that even the supporters of knew were worthless. And, they still took a hit from the political opposition.

            And, even they have raised the defense budget. If every president has to continue to raise the defense budget to show they are not soft, where does it end? How much money is enough already? And, worst of all, we do not even spend the money on the correct things. The military budget is full of actual pork and pet project brought to home states by senators and congressman.

            It is truly pathetic. But, what is more pathetic is all the Limbaugh and Beck sycophants that we will hear screaming about us giving up our sovereignty as soon as the budget gets cut a few million bucks. Once again, the true issue with our country is the simple, immature minds of uneducated adults. (Not necessarily uneducated in school, just stupid.) They keep us from having the frank, adult, rational debates a vibrant country needs to ensure constant progress.
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        • Author by Handyman (December 04, 2009 9:51 am ET)
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          I think that is a lot of bologna. If that were true then subsidies to the auto makers would make the auto's less expensive, and subsidies to the oil and gas industries would make their products less expensive.

          What really gets to me about the Agriculture Community is that most of them think they are entitiled to federal monies to help pay for their crop insurance - yet this is the same group that believe the subsidies in the health care reform amount to a free ride. Whats good for the goose is also good for the gander.

          The Nebraska farmers in the Western part of the state ended up with a bumper crop of Northern White Beans last year and were unable to sell them. The Federal Government had to step in with about 26 million dollars to take care of the problem. I think there are a lot of industries that would like the Federal Government to step in and buy their unsellable products at current market prices.

          Even the small farmers are now beginning to complain about the subsidy programs because they favor the big corporate farms. The money seems to never make it to the group that needs it most, big business always figures out a way of manipulating the system and skimming the cream off the top.

          The price of agriculture products are not always related to the direct costs of growing the product. I have noticed a general trend in the supermarkets to reduce the size of items but still charge the same or more than the original price. The middle man and the retailers and wholesalers each in their own way control the cost of the end product which the consumers buy.

          There is a very large movement in our country taking place as a result of this. Last year many of the seed companies were sold out of seed due to the demand of home gardeners and the prognosis looks the same for this summer. People are learning to grow their own food again and not rely on the agriculture community to provide them with food at a reasonable price. It is definitely one way to cut costs in your family budget, and also a way to control what forms of chemicals get applied to that food.

          Just one mans opinion!!
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 11:44 am ET)
               
            I don't disagree with you. I find it amazing how many of the farmers complain about government handouts while they are the welfare queens of the entire country. Yes, I am looking at you hilighter.

            I don't know that we want to end all ag subsidies. But, I think the entire system needs work. Too much of the money today goes to big ag corporations, and not the few small farmers still left working. I also think it is time we had a conversation about whether or not food is too cheap in this country. I know it is a tough sell and an impossibility politically. But, the truth is, just like with oil - food is too cheap.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 11:34 am ET)
             
          Sorry, Oscar. Should have read your post first. Ditto on the corporate welfare.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 11:33 am ET)
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        I agree completely with the religious entities.

        Pretty much agree with you on the farmer subsidies as well.

        Also, agree with you on those using federal lands.

        I'm not real big on vice taxes, but I would certainly not take a stand against them.

        The road tax sounds too complicated to me. The simpler the better with a bureaucracy.

        Also, hesitant on the political donations tax. I agree that our political donation system is corrupt, but I do not think taxing them would help necessarily.

        I would also say take a look at our corporate welfare system. Not only does it usually not work, but it is much more expensive than social welfare for much worse results.
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    • Author by christopher howard (December 03, 2009 11:04 pm ET)
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      "No. He. Didn't. O'Reilly repeatedly calls for federal sales tax to pay for deficit."

      He called for a regressive tax hike which will fall disproportionately on the poor and middle class, while also pushing for more tax cuts to corporations and keeping capital gains taxes low.
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    • Author by DellDolly (December 03, 2009 11:36 pm ET)
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      O'Reilly is wrong about the need to reduce corporate taxes and refrain from raising income taxes to help create jobs, the sales tax is horribly regressive, and he fails to understand that there are times when it is necessary and appropriate to spend even though it's deficit spending.

      Bush's spending and tax cuts during a war? Unprecedented. Obama's Stimulus plan? A plan that was good, but had too many tax cuts to try to soothe Republicans.

      Every idea recently from the right has sucked, and this one's no different, Bill-O.
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      • Author by bluestate69 (December 04, 2009 3:40 am ET)
           
        i agree. the republicans complain that obama is spending too much, but the stimulus spending is reinvesting in america. a lot of the stimulus money will come back to washington, especially since it helped save or create 1.5 million jobs. the tax cuts don't always come back. as we've seen, people tend to sit on their money in uncertain times. that's why i agree that there shouldn't have been as many tax cuts in the stimulus package.
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    • Author by liberalXtian (December 04, 2009 6:33 am ET)
         
      O'Reilly is just another one of the Haves who keep saying to the Have Nots, "Screw you!"
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    • Author by BHO (December 04, 2009 11:34 am ET)
         
      Now I know you are listening to my suggestions Bill O'. A regressive federal sales tax of 2% is a great idea. Keep up the good work.

      BHO
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    • Author by shaggles (December 04, 2009 12:00 pm ET)
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      It's funny how the right is pushing this VAT idea. That's what they do in "socialist" countries like Denmark. If they want to go the whole hog and have national medical care, a national pension, year long paid maternity leave, 6 weeks of vacation, etc. I'm all for it. Otherwise I say no.
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    • Author by raddave43 (December 04, 2009 5:52 pm ET)
         
      So people who work for the federal government don't have meaningful jobs? Soldiers work for the federal government, so that must not be a meaningful job. So O'Reilly hates the military!!! Is that how Beck ties things together???
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    • Author by raddave43 (December 04, 2009 5:53 pm ET)
         
      So people who work for the federal government don't have meaningful jobs? Soldiers work for the federal government, so that must not be a meaningful job. So O'Reilly hates the military!!! Is that how Beck ties things together???
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