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Limbaugh on "stories" about how "the black frame of mind is terrible": "Tiger Woods' choice of females not helping 'em out"

December 08, 2009 12:41 pm ET

From the December 8 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

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LIMBAUGH: I got two more stories in the stack today about how black unemployment is through the roof. Black unemployment is terrible. The black frame of mind is terrible, they're depressed, they're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid. I mean, they thought there were gonna be an exact 180-degree economic reversal and it's done nothing but get bad for everybody, but they're especially upset about it because they look at him as one of them, and now they feel abandoned. And I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females not helping 'em out with their attitudes there either.

Previously:

Limbaugh's "colorblind" history of racially charged comments

Limbaugh: Because of Great Society, War on Poverty programs, black fathers "found it necessary not to stay home"

CNN reports Limbaugh dropped from Rams bid, cites his "comments in years past about race"

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (December 08, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
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      Missed you man. Beck is boring me.
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    • Author by AB-001 (December 08, 2009 12:46 pm ET)
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      So much to say about this, but three words stand out more than anything that reveal Limbaugh's mindset:

      "They" and "Them" and "Their"

      See, blacks are different than you and me, Limbaugh seems to be saying through his third-person references
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      • Author by jasonandrews (December 08, 2009 5:36 pm ET)
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        Racist or not... Would you not agree with his point? Try to get past the trivial mud slinging.
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        • Author by AB-001 (December 08, 2009 7:25 pm ET)
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          It ain't "trivial mudslinging." Limbaugh is using semantics to be foment societal division. And that's his point.
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          • Author by jasonandrews (December 08, 2009 9:27 pm ET)
               
            You obviously are trying to portray Rush as a racist. I get that. No need to hammer that point anymore.

            The point of my question was to see what you thought of Rush's point: "they thought there were gonna be an exact 180-degree economic reversal and it's done nothing but get bad for everybody, but they're especially upset about it because they look at him [President Obama} as one of them, and now they feel abandoned."

            Do you think that black people feel abandoned since their personal economy has not changed with the election of Obama?
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            • Author by covergirl1908 (December 10, 2009 11:32 am ET)
                 
              no i don't think BLACK people expected an immediate turnaround, and i don't think BLACKS feel abandoned, i don't think anyone expected an immediate turnaround for that matter! WE...WE...dare i say IT one more time....WE...all know this economic mess we're in is going to take more than the color of one's skin to resolve and trust me, its going to take more than a mere 10 months to make that change...the fact of the matter is NO, through the racially charged perspective Rush reports in, NO I can't see the point in anything he says because he loses his audience before he even captures them. media 101, address your audience! and hello, when Rush addresses the people, the unemployed, the impoverished etc... who are backing barack and have who faith in him as our president is he addressing only blacks or the millions of whites, asians, hispanics etc...? we aren't the only ones looking to barack to save our nation...
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              • Author by Steve0238 (December 11, 2009 12:44 am ET)
                   
                NO I can't see the point in anything he says because he loses his audience before he even captures them. media 101, address your audience!


                He loses his audience? Umm you may want to check out his ratings:
                Wikipedia
                NewsMax
                NewsBusters


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        • Author by mari2jj (December 08, 2009 7:31 pm ET)
             
          Actually, Limbaugh has no moral right to say anything about Tiger Woods. Limbaugh has lived like a gutter snipe, ie remember his trip when he was caught with the male enhancement drug? A trip he took with no wife in tow. He is probably just insanely jealous of Tiger for getting all those beautiful girls. In my opinion, those who have participated in these extra marital activities should just stop with the moral superiority stuff.
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        • Author by achrispage6992 (December 09, 2009 7:38 am ET)
             
          No I wouldn't. His point is that because a person has a different color skin they somehow think differently i.e. have a different frame of mind. Do you believe that? Does a person with dark skin have a different physical brain function which creates different thinking? I mean let's be honest here, I doubt very seriously Limbaugh would even delve into a philosophical question regarding whether or not societal factors could cause what he is referring to. In fact, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that it is yours and Limbaugh's belief, that those with darker skin simply aren't able to think as well as those with white skin. Such a belief would most definitely fall under "racist."
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      • Author by ErinMcGee (December 08, 2009 10:41 pm ET)
           
        A little confused. When referring to black people, should he have said "We" and "Us" and "Our"?
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    • Author by Lizinbklyn (December 08, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
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      Yeah and . .

      oxicontin addiction = G-O-O-D !!
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    • Author by mjh (December 08, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
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      Limbaugh: "The black frame of mind is terrible" and "Tiger Woods' choice of females not helping 'em out"



      As an African American, I just wanna say how PLEASED I am whenever a privileged white man such as Limpballs, Hannity, or Beck demonstrates how in TOUCH they are with the pulse of the black community . . . ;~)>


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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 08, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
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        This @$$wipe isn't even in touch with the pulse of the mainstream WHITE community!

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        Cue the Con's to come tell how this isn't racist!
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        • Author by Midnight Kevin (December 08, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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          What are you talking about? I always go to my fat white privileged men for information about the black frame of mind...
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          The Midnight Review
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      • Author by Lord of Light (December 08, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
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        As an African American, I just wanna say how PLEASED I am whenever a privileged white man such as Limpballs, Hannity, or Beck demonstrates how in TOUCH they are with the pulse of the black community . . . ;~)>

        You are to be commended for your restraint. I'm not even African American and I'd like to ... oh, never mind.

        Wonder if Rush was saying this stuff when whiter-than-white Steve Garvey was pulling all of his crap with several mistresses behind his wife's back. Something tells me probably not.
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        • Author by liberalXtian (December 08, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
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          And how many of those Republican politicians in the news the last year, or so, because they were cheating on their wives were African- American?
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          • Author by liberalXtian (December 08, 2009 7:27 pm ET)
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            Oops! Looks like there is another Republican (this one from Missouri) caught in a sex scandal. Looks like some really twisted stuff. Let me check....Yep, he's white.
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      • Author by betogrande (December 08, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
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        Haha, thank goodness you have Rush looking out for you and your "black frame of mind." I am also glad that Rush was able to point out the racial aspect of it all. If I weren't constantly reminded of race by such do-gooders as Rush, I may forget how important it is. With friends like that...
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      • Author by mari2jj (December 08, 2009 7:38 pm ET)
           
        I was about to make a comment expressing his silly assumption that he knows anything about "blacks" but alas, you did it so much better than I could. He is obviously a racist because in live in a depressed white area and unemployed white men are the norms. What a sad thing to see these families under such strain with no work in sight. Unemployment is devastating no matter the race. But assuming Blacks are always responsible for their unemployment is just stupid of Limbaugh. Blacks are the first to lose jobs and often the last to get hired.
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    • Author by raine315 (December 08, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
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      OH Lordy! Someone please hold me back...

      Jack@ss wonders how come no one wanted him to own a NFL team. Friggin Pig
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    • Author by marco21 (December 08, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
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      Yes, when you want to understand the black community, turn to Rush Limbaugh.

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      • Author by pete592 (December 08, 2009 1:55 pm ET)
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        And when you want more of the black vote, do the same.
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      • Author by MiniTru (December 08, 2009 2:41 pm ET)
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        Yes, when you want to understand the black community, turn to Rush Limbaugh.
        I think Limbaugh understands the oxycontin blackout community, and not much else.
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    • Author by nerzog (December 08, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
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      How long before one of the Troglodyte websites features a cartoon of Tiger shouting "Where's da white wimmin at?"
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    • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 12:55 pm ET)
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      Tiger Woods is one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African American, one-eighth Native American, and one-eighth Dutch. In other words, he is an average American citizen who happens to have a bit more melanin in his skin. How does skin color determine a "frame of mind"? I mean, I don't think I have a stark white "frame of mind" because I'm melanin-challenged.

      Stupid comment, Rush. A very racist, stupid comment. But then, what else is new.

      [Oh, and Rush, I wouldn't be talking about anyone else's "choice of females," if I were you. Your track record is pretty dismal.]
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      • Author by The_Cat (December 08, 2009 1:03 pm ET)
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        Beat me to it, bintx. Well posted. Rush claiming skin color is the predominant defining characteristic is completely and utterly racist. Bring on the denier trolls.
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      • Author by mjh (December 08, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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        "How does skin color determine a 'frame of mind'?"



        Just ask Limpballs; he knows. He's always talking about what Obama is "feeling" and "thinking" -- despite not having ever met or talked to him . . .

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      • Author by leftofwhat (December 08, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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        the only race rush and his ditto heads understand is NASCAR.
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      • Author by shaggles (December 08, 2009 2:09 pm ET)
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        That's kinda what I was thinking too.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (December 08, 2009 12:56 pm ET)
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      Please tell me that I didn't hear that! Please tell me that I stumbled into the locker room of the nearest branch of the KKK! Rush, where do you get off talking about the African American community like that? I am sure your information isn't coming from first hand sources (I'm white, but I wouldn't want to talk to you) and why do you care? You just made a huge set of assumptions about 13% of the U.S. population just to minimalize them and trivialize them. I am so embarrassed to be white right now.
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      • Author by Lord of Light (December 08, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
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        I am so embarrassed to be white right now.

        Me too. Which is why I find talk like Rush's so outrageous. It just inflames race relations. Let every African American reading this know that this A-hole does not speak for me!
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    • Author by wzwriter (December 08, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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      Hey, Rush - the laundry called. Do you want them to put starch in your sheet for tonight's cross burning??
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (December 08, 2009 1:10 pm ET)
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      How does a rich, elitist, shiny-pink Caucasian purport to know so much about the "black frame of mind"? Been gettin' down, Rush...?
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    • Author by Handyman (December 08, 2009 1:12 pm ET)
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      Both Beck and Rush have shown their finer side today in attempts to pit one segment of our society against another. All they have really shown is the desperation and insecurity of themselves, and those that believe them.

      They still refuse to accept that our country in overwhelming numbers decided it was time to put this sort of racism behind us and enter a new era - old habits are hard to break.
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      • Author by nerzog (December 08, 2009 1:20 pm ET)
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        I think they smell blood in the water. After months of relentless propaganda from the Right, blindly repeated by the MSM, Obama's approval numbers are anemic. The Talk Show Troglodytes are willing to say anything to put their party back in power. With any luck, they'll overplay their hand and reveal what racist pigs they really are.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (December 08, 2009 1:22 pm ET)
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        What a bullsh-it comparison...

        Barack Obama is a serious man of high intellect who is qualified to hold the high position of importance he attained.

        Tiger Woods is a great athlete who has been turned into a money-making, brand name celebrity machine by corporate America.
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        • Author by grunt (December 08, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
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          Qualified? High intellect? How have I missed that over all this time. Great revelation.
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          • Author by marco21 (December 08, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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            You're right. He's no Sarah Palin. How is Ms. MENSA doing?
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            • Author by srichardson (December 08, 2009 4:22 pm ET)
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              I can't believe the stupidity of some people. For one, whoever wrote the article can't even write. Secondly, whoever posted it is a bigger a$$ than Limbaugh. People are jumping on any little thing to trash Obama. And oh, yeah, if Obama was white would you people even think to compare him to Tiger Woods? I like the way the writer tries to qualify his stupidity by saying race wasn't a parallel. I also don't appreciate you crazy nuts assuming that people believe Obama to be an inept leader. George Bush was the dam^ idiot, not Obama. He's showing such integrity by not treating you idiots the way you treat him. The reason he's only slowly accomplishing his goals for this country is bc he is still trying to be bipartisan while the republicans vote no against ANYTHING he suggests. And just to make myself clear, I am addressing dumlerted, not marco.
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (December 08, 2009 6:07 pm ET)
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                I like the way the writer tries to qualify his stupidity by saying race wasn't a parallel.

                srichardson, did somebody post that idiotic American Thinker article here? (I think it's been deleted). I heard Boss Hogg reading that on the radio this morning, and somebody posted it on another thread.

                I believe the "writer" said that it was "ironic" that race wasn't the reason for the parallel, which said as much as Rush's "them" and "they" mentioned above.

                And besides, who went and told Rush that Tiger is black? Don't these right wing Kloset Klansmen always insist that they don't even see color? Why do they get so excited about trying to slam non-whites ?
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                • Author by srichardson (December 09, 2009 11:59 am ET)
                     
                  Yeah, that dingbat alerted. That article made me so angry. I'm glad they took it off the blog, even if it takes away from the post I made above.

                  And these racists still live in the day when anyone who wasn't white was considered a person of color. They can't even understand why someone wants to identify with their race. Another way to degrade the minorities. Too bad we can't fine stupidity or we could pay OFF the deficit.
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          • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
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            It takes at least an average intellect to see these things. Very telling there, grunt.
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            • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (December 08, 2009 6:10 pm ET)
                 
              Beat me to an easy one there, bintx. I'll bet his hamster missed it too.
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          • Author by HardJustice (December 09, 2009 1:10 am ET)
               
            Maybe you missed it because didn't do any research? Maybe you missed it because you let anemic news outlets spoon-feed you a pile of steaming misinformation? If you think long enough, do a little howework, you might figure out how you missed it.

            Obama is a Harvard Law grad, he was a civil rights attorney and a professor who taught Constitutional law. If you think a Constitutional law professor does not not have a high intellect or a framework of qualifications to be President of the United States of America, consider moving to another country.

            Maybe you voted for a president you'd like to sit down and have a beer with. I voted for a president who knows more about the Constitution than you or I or Bush or McCain ever will.
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            • Author by grunt (December 10, 2009 10:55 am ET)
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              None of those qualifications you posted are standing out to me. Wow, he got an education. So did everybody else on capitol hill. He worked for a law firm. There are a lot of people who went to an Ivy League school and worked at a law firm. They probably also taught some classes at some point. None of that stands out as something that qualifies someone to lead the greatest country the world has ever known. Would any corporation make someone their CEO based on those qualifications? The answer in MMFA would probably be yes (considering the lack of business understanding). But in the real world, probably not.

              I have seen very little from this man that screams "intellectual." I guess between the constant "umms" and "uhhs" when he is without his prompter, it got lost in the shuffle. It isn't always high intellect that gets someone through a tough educational program. Believe it or not, sometimes hard work makes it happen.

              BTW, nice strawman with the McCain and Bush line. These idiotic points like, "If you are against Obama, you must love Bush and McCain" are so stupid I am surpised the people who make them even know how to type out their thoughts.
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              • Author by HardJustice (December 10, 2009 1:58 pm ET)
                   
                Fair enough on the straw man, that was an unfair assumption on my part. And your ad hominem attack on my intelligence is understandable since I was taking a particularly hostile tone with you the other night - it was unwarranted and I apologize.

                There are so many knee-jerk Obama-bashing right-wingers who troll around here that I unfairly lumped you into that category.

                I'm not sure what you point is in your 2nd paragraph. Do you believe that hard work and not high intellect got Obama through law school? Is this necessarily a bad thing?

                So if being well-schooled in Constitutional law does not stand out to you as having some qualification to defend and uphold the Constitution (and granted, one must have more qualifications than simply this - I was just citing it as a stark contrast to the 'qualifications' of our previous President), then who do you suggest is a more qualified candidate?

                It's easy to point fingers and cite problems (I do it all the time), but finding solutions is the hard part. If know of a person out there who's got solutions and is worth looking at for 2012, I'm interested.
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        • Author by temphandle tearfully55timetable (December 08, 2009 2:29 pm ET)
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          No Joke, who wrote that drivel? I don't feel betrayed by our President, disappointed in a few of his decisions, and the only person who should feel betrayed by Tiger Woods is his wife...
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      • Author by nerzog (December 08, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
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        Valid points? You mean Republican talking points?
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      • Author by nerzog (December 08, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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        By the way, I'm not surprised that it's anonymous. I wouldn't sign it either.
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      • Author by New Frontier (December 08, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
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        Password: Topic Body (optional)
        I suggest you post only a link next time, since you can't do a simple copy-and-paste of your sh!tty article properly.
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        • Author by wzwriter (December 08, 2009 2:04 pm ET)
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          Besides, a cut-and-paste of an entire article without a link to its source is a violation of the Copyright Laws.
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          • Author by shaggles (December 08, 2009 2:10 pm ET)
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            Not to mention media matters posting rules.
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          • Author by TX (December 08, 2009 2:15 pm ET)
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            I did link to the article -- if you click on the headline I put above the story it links to the article.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (December 08, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
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              You heard this on Rush Limbaugh's show and then posted it here. Hahahaha! You made my day I gave you a thumbs up for being a "dittohead" with no shame and no game.
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            • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
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              Why didn't you just put the link? That's all that was necessary.
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              • Author by TX (December 08, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
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                Just a mistake -- I thought I only copied the first few paragraphs but I guess it took the whole page instead. Next time I will make sure to "preview" before I hit post.
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          • Author by John Paradox (December 08, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
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            Which I have used the REPORT ABUSE link to notify MMFA.
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      • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
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        It came from MarketWatch [owned by Dow Jones] with a side of American Thinker. No valid points here at all.
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        • Author by New Frontier (December 08, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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          It's evidently authored by a Lisa Schifren on the American "Thinker" web site. She has also apparently suggested that Obama may have been born of Communist parents, and she was a speechwriter for Dan Quayle, so you know she's really a deeply serious thinker.
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          • Author by MiniTru (December 08, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
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            I wonder if Schifren wrote "What a shame it is to lose one's mind, or not to have a mind at all. How true that is." for Quayle's speech to the United Negro College Fund.
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      • Author by mjh (December 08, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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        "Given how desperately we want to believe in a human god, it didn't take much peddling from Team Tiger for us to accept Woods as a modern deity. With every new tournament victory, every new product endorsement, his divinity grew." -- not alert



        HAHAHAHA, you gotta love wingnuts . . .

        Apparently, they're trying to claim Woods is some sort of "divine" being -- much like they like to mock Obama as "the Obamamessiah."

        Yet -- why are THEY the ONLY ones who EVER refer to them in these terms?

        Those of us in the reality-based world regard Woods and Obama as what they are: human beings. We admire one for his athletic ability and the other for his personal charisma {and, despite claims to the contrary, are able to maintain such admiration even along with occasional criticism of either one}, but its only the far right that seems to confuse such admiration for deifying . . .




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        • Author by rms (December 08, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
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          Well, they do seem to put Ronald Reagan on a fairly high pedestal...
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          • Author by mjh (December 08, 2009 3:39 pm ET)
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            LOL, that is true -- but, you gotta remember, Raygun didn't HAVE any faults, so deifying him comes naturally ;^) . . .

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      • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (December 08, 2009 2:39 pm ET)
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        I don't know who wrote this article...but I find it very interesting -- with very valid points regarding

        Okay I give up, where's the valid points?

        This was a trick question, wasn't it?
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (December 08, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
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        It would be very easy to write an article in the same vein about Reagan-worship, Palin-worship, Bob Barr-worship (a smaller, though no less frightening group) or many others who are put on pedestals by some.

        Here's the real facts. Woods was admired as a sports star by many, but idolized by few. Obama is admired by many, but most of us see him very clearly and have our points of agreement and disagreement. When he has acted contrary to what we'd like to see we've been disappointed, but we've never had to take him down from a pedestal because we've never had him up on one.

        Your article doesn't reflect reality in its references to Obama.
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    • Author by tapley (December 08, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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      Sadly he doesn't realize how racist his statements are. I wonder how many black folk the drugster REALLY knows. What does Tiger Woods choice of women have to do with me or any other black person? Unlike rush and his followers, we are not a monolithic, single issue, low information people who follw like sheep. He will never see the colorful diversity in the African American culture.
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    • Author by SMTDL (December 08, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
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      This idiot knows nothing about what black people think!! I find it repulsive that he can get away with telling millions of white people such nonsense.Black people have lots of different opinions on politics and social issues.Yes there is a lot of black poverty and there is still no level playing field,but for him to say such racist,strereotypical crap as if all Black people were looking for a handout is ridiculous.He wouldn't speak as if all white people think the way poor Appalacians do.Black people did not expect any such economic reversal as he describes..who would..??As a black man that grew up in the segregated south of the 50's and 60's I have seen a lot of progress over the years but we keep slipping backwards thanks to racists/bigots like Limbaugh who are given a platform and credibility by narrow minded people that excuse his behavior and defend his actions!!!
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      • Author by srichardson (December 08, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
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        SMTDL, You make a very valid point. We never hear people refer to all white people over one certain sect! Thank you for putting it into words that even the biggest nutjob, wingnut can hopefully understand.
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    • Author by juliajayne1 (December 08, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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      The Rush Frame of mind is atrocious, abominable, alarming, awful, bad, dreadful, evil, flagitious, frightful, grievous, heinous, horrible, horrifying, monstrous, painful, terrible, ugly, unspeakable, and wicked.

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      • Author by MiniTru (December 08, 2009 2:59 pm ET)
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        Very impressive, jj. You even went to the trouble to alphabetize the list! Roget would be proud.
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      • Author by John Paradox (December 08, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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        Wow! Thesauruses (Thesauri?) can be handy, no?
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    • Author by terrapin53 (December 08, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
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      Wow....he just insulted a large part of the population. Par for the course I reckon.
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      • Author by John Paradox (December 08, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
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        Par for the course I reckon.

        HAH! Perfect for a thread on Tiger Woods.

        Which reminds me of a classic Les Nessman sports report: "Here's hoping [golfer name] will be playing up to par".
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      • Author by AB-001 (December 08, 2009 5:07 pm ET)
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        Well, didn't he say something to the effect that blacks are only 12 percent of the population, so why should we care about them? I may be off on the number he said, but you get the point
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    • Author by nerzog (December 08, 2009 1:39 pm ET)
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      And, of course, if you Ask Blimpy what the correct action would be, he'd propose tax cuts for people like him, probably citing how well Bush's tax cuts "stimulated" the economy.

      The dirty little secret is that the "prosperity" we enjoyed before the current recession had nothing to do with Bush's tax cuts, but a consumer spending spree fueled by easy credit. It was a classic bubble, the wreckage of which we are now trying to sift our way through.
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    • Author by everettbme (December 08, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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      Oh, now I understand. Beck and Rush are trying to see who can be The Fox Nation's Racist Of The Year.
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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (December 08, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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      Take it from an expert on what African-Americans are thinking.
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    • Author by shaggles (December 08, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
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      What makes Limbaugh think he knows anything about the "black frame of mind"?
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      • Author by nerzog (December 08, 2009 1:54 pm ET)
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        Since he probably has less than 1% Black listenership, all he has to do is reaffirm his White audience's preconceived notion of the "black frame of mind".
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    • Author by k1dork (December 08, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
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      Yahoo did an interesting article that relates to this called "Tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks."

      I don't know how to do links, so here's the url.

      http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091206/ap_on_sp_ot/us_tiger_woods_race;_ylt=At.acg7pLyvxiQ.brlxlQe1vzwcF;_ylu=X3oDMTJrN2FqMjE1BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkxMjA2L3VzX3RpZ2VyX3dvb2RzX3JhY2UEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwMzBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA2Z1bGxuYnNwc3Rvcg
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      • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
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        You are aware that Tiger Woods does not call himself "black," right? He says that to call himself "black" denies the contribution of his Asian mother in his creation. If the "blacks" are widening their distance from Tiger . . . not particularly significant. He never considered himself black in the first place.

        If you will look at my post above, you'll find that Tiger is like most Americans, a blend of many different races and/or nationalities. Skin color should not be used as an identifier of a person. It's just different levels of melanin.
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    • Author by mookie von zipper (December 08, 2009 2:01 pm ET)
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      what's the problem here?... i ask that question in vain, because it's not surprising media matters jumps on this statement by rush... i have really had it with their race bating... of course, mm doesn't have the stones to flat out call rush a racist here... all they have to do is post the snippet of audio above and let their minions predictably cry racism for them, as evidenced by the comments above and the ones surely to follow my comment...

      rush is only suggesting what much of black america already has... check out this article by jesse washington, appointed AP's official race and ethnicity writer last summmer:

      tiger's troubles widen his distance from blacks

      media matters contributes nothing to advance race relations in this country with their whiney-ass divisive posts...

      reporting from murderland ranch,
      i'm mookie von zipper
      massmurdermedia

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      • Author by k1dork (December 08, 2009 2:03 pm ET)
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        How do you link articles?
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        • Author by shaggles (December 08, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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          There's an icon that looks like a chain on the menu bar when you post a comment.
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        • Author by mookie von zipper (December 08, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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          yeah, what shag said...

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          • Author by shaggles (December 08, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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            Thumbs down? Now I've seen everything.
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            • Author by mookie von zipper (December 08, 2009 11:09 pm ET)
                 
              i'll take any thumbs down i can get... i may lead the league here at mm...

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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (December 09, 2009 2:39 am ET)
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                Sorry, mookie, not even close. You write in complete sentences and manage to keep your capslock off. You're not even a wingnut wild card in the thumbs down derby.
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                • Author by mookie von zipper (December 09, 2009 9:13 pm ET)
                     
                  someone gave you a thumbs up for that, i feel a lot of love in the room right now...

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      • Author by shaggles (December 08, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
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        That article isn't exactly conclusive evidence of how the black community feels but it's something I suppose. But if the black community doesn't generally support Woods then how can his actions or his choice of sexual partners hurt them? If that's the case he doesn't represent them and whatever he does should have little impact on them. And if he doesn't represent them then what is the point of Rush bringing the black community into the discussion in the first place?
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        • Author by blk-in-alabam (December 08, 2009 8:16 pm ET)
             
          Most black people can't get into a lot country clubs where Tiger Woods plays golf.Many black people can not afford to play in the places he plays when not on the course.It is not a race thing,it is a can you afford to play. People of all races who can afford to play in the same places Tiger Woods plays,play too.This attack on Woods by republican party media is about half racism and half sponsor envy.Hating on someone who has world-wide sponsors while they have none.The only advertisers people like Limbaugh has left are certified scams
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      • Author by mjh (December 08, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
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        "rush is only suggesting what much of black america already has..." -- zipper's open


        Once again -- as an African American, I am PLEASED whenever a pasty white, drug addicted radio shock jock {or one of his troglodyte listeners, like zipper here}, purports to KNOW what the {entire} state of "black america" is . . .




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        • Author by congero6189599 (December 08, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
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          As an Afro-American i find it interesting too mjh and I'am not pleased. Tiger Woods is not putting any food on my table and as someone else said the only person who should feel betrayed by him is his wife. Despite these "cons" beliefs we do not all look alike nor do we all think alike nor do we all speak alike,are have a special leader. Did Gingrich represent "white" people when he servred his wife divorce papers while she was recovering from cancer surgury in the hospital. How about Ghouliania, ,and lets lets not forget widestance Craig who were they representing...oh thats right their constituents and other than Craig(gay sex)not one has seen their lights dim politically. But no one asked how is this going to affect white people.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (December 08, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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            I meant Ghouliani...hahaha! But after seeing some of his pictures in drag maybe Ghouliania is appropiate. :-)
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      • Author by DellDolly (December 08, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
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        MMFA doesn't try to read people's minds, and so they don't call people liars, but simply state that they've pushed a falsehood. Nor do they call people bigots or racists - they simply show what those people have said.

        And calling out bigots and racists like this does further race relations. The quicker we can inform people about this nonsense that poisons our national debates, the better.
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        • Author by mookie von zipper (December 08, 2009 11:14 pm ET)
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          calling out bigots and racists to further race relations only works when an actual bigot says something racist... mm piling on an innocuous statement by a non bigot who is not racist only serves to divide us...

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      • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
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        Tiger Woods has never considered himself "black," so I'm not really sure what difference this article makes. I don't think he really cares.
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        • Author by lede39571545 (December 08, 2009 5:29 pm ET)
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          Tiger is soooooooooo screwed-up mentally, he has enormous identity problems. It is not surprising he was playing loose-as-a-goose with his thing-a-ma-jig. Who really gives a FLYING FAT RAT what Tiger does or does not do.
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      • Author by Ruby (December 08, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
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        whiney-ass divisive posts...

        Umm...simply posting the audio of what Rush said is "whiney" and "divisive". Since all MediaMatters did was let Rush's words speak for themselves, it seems to me Rush is the one you're calling names.
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        • Author by mookie von zipper (December 08, 2009 11:20 pm ET)
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          the problem i have is his words do not speak for themselves in the context mm would have you believe... media matters know what buttons to push and their minions go bat$h!t crazy...

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    • Author by Dem02020 (December 08, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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      I'll bet that everyone who attends this website already knows what "wedge issues" are in politics, particularly in campaign politics, but I'll offer a definition anyway, just so as to be sure.

      "Wedge issues" in campaign politics are issues that are terribly divisive among people, but are not truly political (not truly issues of Public Policy): they are issues that provoke anger and fear and suspicion and even hatred, and divide the crowd into opposing camps, antagonized against each other.

      The people, who might otherwise be of a singular mind on most if not all real Public Policy issues, are driven asunder by these emotionally charged but truly irrelevant "wedge issues".

      It's nothing but a politically destructive manipulation of people, based upon their fears and suspicions etc.

      You knew this already.

      Religion is a "wedge issue" ("it's us against them"), despite religion having no true or even legal place in our Public Policy agenda.

      Matters of sexuality are also a "wedge issue" ("it's us against them"), despite sexuality having little or no place in Public Policy.

      Also birth control (sometimes called "reproductive rights") is used to divide the crowd along their most emotional gut lines, despite the fact that such things are as truly private and personal as are religious or sexual matters.

      You already know this.

      You also know that Republicans lost just enough political (people) support in what we call "Red State America" (namely Virginia and particularly Florida and other such States that Republicans can sometimes count on), they lost just enough electoral support in those places, to lose their majorities in Congress and lose the administration of our federal government, in the 2006 and 2008 national elections.

      Well, Republicans (and their many highly paid hacks and minions in the media) are hell bent on getting back that lost support in "Red State America", and getting back majorities in the House and the Senate, and getting back their crooked administration of our U.S. Government, and they'll use any "wedge issue" they can to do it.

      And so you know what's going on here, you know why race or ethnic heritage or whatever you'd call it (it doesn't really matter anyway does it), you know why they're doing this, you know what it is they're doing and to whom they're doing it, don't you?

      Sure you do.

      It's as easy to see as are the colors black and white.

      But did you know they (Republicans and their malicious media hacks) are using the Public Airwaves, our property, a public resource, to do this, to drive this 'wedge' nationally, across the broadcast spectrum...

      You knew this too, right?

      I hope so.
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      • Author by mookie von zipper (December 08, 2009 2:21 pm ET)
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        political parties aside, real conservatives champion individuals and not groups... i'd agree with you if you had said democrats as well, since they are no strangers to wedge issues, in fact i submit to you they wrote the book...



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        • Author by mjh (December 08, 2009 2:56 pm ET)
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          "real conservatives champion individuals and not groups..." -- zipper's open


          We-el . . .

          seeing as how it was George Dumbya Bush who made the statement: "you're either for us, or against us",

          seeing as how it was Tommy Tancredo who demonized an entire subculture by characterizing the Cuban population of Miami as "a third-world city",

          seeing as how Uncle KKKarl Rove, aided and abetted by various rightwing radio and teevee talkers, used the "wedge issue" of immigration as a stepping stone to defeating Kerry in '04,

          THANK YOU for admitting that they aren't "real conservatives" . . .


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          • Author by mookie von zipper (December 08, 2009 10:52 pm ET)
               
            i never said the aforementioned were, but i agree that they are not...

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        • Author by wzwriter (December 08, 2009 3:01 pm ET)
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          real conservatives champion individuals and not groups

          Right. They champion white individuals, and denigrate minority groups, inclusing gays and women.
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      • Author by MiniTru (December 08, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
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        I'll bet that everyone who attends this website already knows what "wedge issues" are in politics
        "Wedge" issue is pretty good, especially when referring to Tiger Woods.
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    • Author by Sks1 (December 08, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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      how would a racist bigoted clown such as Rush even begin to know what black people are feeling/ he could care less about what's happening in the black community or any impoverished community across this country he is a racist simple and plain.
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    • Author by manofmystique (December 08, 2009 2:13 pm ET)
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      Nor does it meets your approval. Speak the whole truth...
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    • Author by Doug-Life (December 08, 2009 2:18 pm ET)
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      I didn't know rush was an expert on African American/Cablinasian relations.
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    • Author by k1dork (December 08, 2009 2:19 pm ET)
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      He's racist! He's racist!

      I'm foaming at the mouth---he's so racist!
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      • Author by opopop (December 08, 2009 2:40 pm ET)
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        Your right dork, this is just ridicolous stuff bein posted about Limbaugh, he's not a racist, now I live in Ireland, but I know full well that conservatives who support Rush don't know what racism means, and that they only know it is bad if someone literally says "Hi, I'm a racist", and even then, depending on what party they vote for, they might just be "joking, provocative, playing with liberals".

        Rush is a joke, and its a disgrace how the rubdish that comes out of his mouth has made him millions, but on the other hand, its funny in a way to see people like dork embarassingly defend his sh!t talk, ha ha pathetic.
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      • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
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        Hey, we finally agree on something. You're right, he IS racist! It's good that you've finally seen the light!
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      • Author by mjh (December 08, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
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        "He's racist! He's racist!

        I'm foaming at the mouth---he's so racist!" -- A1dork



        I agree that he [Limpballs] is racist -- but, somehow, I don't think that's the reason you're foaming at the mouth . . .

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    • Author by DellDolly (December 08, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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      So, if only Tiger Woods had chosen women who wouldn't tell others that they were having an affair with Tiger Woods, the whole problem wouldn't be here?

      Or is it that he chose white women, and as a man of color, he should only have chosen women of color? Because everyone is as concerned with not mixing races as you are, huh, Rush? I mean, a guy who's got about 5 different ancestries in him and who's just more Asian than he is black has to have black women as his mistresses, Rush? Really?

      The problem is that Tiger Woods chose to have mistresses. It wouldn't resolve anything if he had chosen more discrete women or black women, as the problem is that he violated his marital vows, Rush.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (December 08, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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        Could this possibly explain why Rush is working on marriage # 4, or is it #5?
        Could he have violated his marriage vows, or maybe it was because his little blue pills weren't potent enough, and his exes got tired of being short-changed?
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        • Author by bintx (December 08, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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          I think he's currently contemplating marriage #4 . . . how very "conservative" of him, don't you think? {rolls eyes}
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (December 08, 2009 2:45 pm ET)
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      Limbaugh: "The black frame of mind is terrible" and "Tiger Woods' choice of females not helping 'em out"


      [http://cdn.newsone.com/files/2009/01/horsey-1.png]

      Let him try to deny his race baiting tendacies.
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (December 08, 2009 2:48 pm ET)
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      As an African American female, I look upon Tiger Woods the same as I do President Obama: They're human and make mistakes, just like I do.

      Whoever posted the link to the article stating that Obama and Woods want to be viewed as "human gods" is off their meds. The only time I ever read anything about the deification of the president it comes from a far rightwinger.

      I could care less about Tiger Woods' female playmates. That's his business, and I'm going to let him handle it. If I tried to advise him, he wouldn't listen anyway. LOL

      As for Limbaugh, I let whatever he vomits go in one ear and out the other. He's not worth getting my blood pressure up. He's a member of my Persona Non Grata Club.
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    • Author by AB-001 (December 08, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
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      You just know this is going to show up on Olberman's Worst Person's segment.

      And for good reason! Not that it'll make a dent on Limbaugh or his sycophantic listeners
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    • Author by rtejon (December 08, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
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      I didn't know race was a factor. I thought it was the same old gated-community country club cultural stuff that comes with the territory in the professional golfing world.
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    • Author by rtejon (December 08, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
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      I didn't know race was a factor. I thought it was the same old gated-community country club cultural stuff that comes with the territory in the professional golfing world.
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      • Author by rtejon (December 08, 2009 3:37 pm ET)
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        I tried to avoid double posting but did it anyway.
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        • Author by rtejon (December 09, 2009 11:34 am ET)
             
          Someone actually voted thumbs down because I acknowledged a posting mistake? What sense does that make?
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    • Author by TavernWench (December 08, 2009 4:13 pm ET)
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      This fat bastard is just beyond the pale at this point. My gawd. What an ass.
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    • Author by canaanxing9025 (December 08, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
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      I think he just said that because that's exactly what everybody expected him to say. He is playing to his dittoheads, and he is playing his critics.
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      • Author by canaanxing9025 (December 08, 2009 4:59 pm ET)
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        P. S. Limbaugh's sentiments are no longer outrageous, they are simply tiresome.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (December 08, 2009 4:57 pm ET)
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      RUSH is living in his own whacked out wingnut world. His problem is that he thinks most white AMERICANS think like him. Thank GOD we don't.
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    • Author by pilotx (December 08, 2009 5:57 pm ET)
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      The problem with Rush's listeners by and large is that they take his word as gospel. I regularly read on certain websites why "we" vote a certain way or have certain opinions. I usually explain why I think a certain way about certain issues but it usually degrades into me getting schooled by people who don't even know any Black people about my community. I do find it interesting and funny sometimes. I think a better take would be to ask questions instead of taking the word of an out of touch conservative pundit who has been out of touch with the common man for decades now. Of course I could be wrong but I think that growing up Black in a Black community and a Black family gives me a little bit of insight. I also thought Rush was colorblind. Hrmph.
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      • Author by opopop (December 08, 2009 6:12 pm ET)
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        Well pilotx, I think I can bet why Rush's fans won't listen to any insight you could give, its because you ARE "Black in a Black community and a Black family", and let me guess, you're a liberal too?
        Thats then gonna be knocked off as you just supportin Obama cause he's black or whatever, whereas Rush, the man who as far as I know, has no qualifications, in well, anything, is a credible source because he "tells it like it is" which is basically whatever his ignorant fans wanna hear, guess why?
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    • Author by Marker (December 08, 2009 6:26 pm ET)
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      Limbo says what the repug party is about, white power. Anybody crazy and racist enough to vote for a repug endorses what this KKK loon says on a daily basis.
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    • Author by usappa00 (December 09, 2009 3:01 am ET)
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      How does Rush a rich, fat, white, racist, drug attic know the "black state of mind"?
      Rush, get out of your hole and maybe you might have a different outlook on life.
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    • Author by usappa00 (December 09, 2009 3:01 am ET)
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      How does Rush a rich, fat, white, racist, drug attic know the "black state of mind"?
      Rush, get out of your hole and maybe you might have a different outlook on life.
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    • Author by eyeswideopen (December 09, 2009 7:39 am ET)
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      When Rush gets on the horn and says, "and now they feel abandoned," I think two things. One, how does this man, or any person, speak for the entire group of unemployed black males? How can this insensitive boob know what any of us thinks? Two, Rush is sowing more seeds of discontent, hoping that he can convince another citizen, (and an unemployed male who chooses to listen to Rush is probably easy prey), to go against our current president and feel ashamed of his own race because Tiger chose to betray his wife, family, and himself.
      The only reason Rush says the things he does is that he gets paid to manipulate the minds of fools.
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