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Political activism: Beck urges viewers to tell their senators to vote against healthcare reform

December 11, 2009 6:32 pm ET

From the December 11 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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    • Author by k1dork (December 11, 2009 6:35 pm ET)
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      Political activism is only OK when it is done by Air America hosts, or liberal hosts like Keith Olbermann or Ed Shultz.
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      • Author by soze169880 (December 11, 2009 6:37 pm ET)
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        Political activism is okay when you don't build a career on smearing people who do it, then act like it's okay. And will you and Olbermann get a room?
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      • Author by Marker (December 11, 2009 6:56 pm ET)
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        The hosts you cite do not act like Beck.
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        • Author by DixieChyc (December 12, 2009 7:08 am ET)
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          The way Beck acts? In my opinion, Beck uses sarcasm, wit, and an in-your-face gregarious type of performance to deliver his commentary no matter the intimidation, threats, and hate-mail. Beck certainly has spunk. Lesser men would have crumbled under the pressure by now, sulking away. Not Glenn. He says what a lot of people would like to say themselves if they just had a camera and microphone.
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          • Author by snoopy (December 12, 2009 9:48 am ET)
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            So that's how reichwhiners describe rude, ignorant, totalitarian, fascist, racist fundamentalist jerks...
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          • Author by soze169880 (December 12, 2009 4:20 pm ET)
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            In my opinion, Beck uses sarcasm, wit, and an in-your-face gregarious type of performance to deliver his commentary.

            Stupidity does not constitute an opinion.
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          • Author by bintx (December 12, 2009 10:28 pm ET)
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            Beck uses hatred, racism, dishonesty and paranoia. If you call that "spunk," then you are just as sick as he is.
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          • Author by New Frontier (December 13, 2009 1:01 pm ET)
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            (Beck) says what a lot of people would like to say themselves if they just had a camera and microphone.

            Like "Obama is a white-hating racist", for example.
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      • Author by ProgLib (December 11, 2009 7:00 pm ET)
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        "political activism" by those two anchors is different because they actually advocate for important things... beck advocates for his own popularity and high ratings.
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        • Author by DixieChyc (December 12, 2009 7:19 am ET)
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          Rather, political activism is ok as long as you are a liberal or progressive. Or if your name is Barack Obama. Or you work with Acorn. Or you have embraced the religion of environmentalism. Or you join with the Black Panthers to get your candidate elected. Or you march with Al Sharpton over yet another claim of racism. But if you are a tea partier conservative tea bagger town haller, then no way! According to the Liberal Manual, it is not possible for a conservative to be a politcal activist! It is high time we change that! And Glenn, I think, also believes it is time. Time for a different kind of change. And by the way - being conservative does not mean being a Republican!
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          • Author by snoopy (December 12, 2009 9:52 am ET)
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            being conservative does not mean being a Republican!


            I agree, and I feel sorry for those conservatives who have long ago been labeled RINOs by the fascist racist fundamentalists who want to purge the party of everyone who doesn't think and act like them! It was a sad day for the republican party when they let an extreme minority take control and proceeded to make racism "in".
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          • Author by ProgLib (December 12, 2009 6:47 pm ET)
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            do you actually think a conservative politician can bring change to america as president? with how much disarray the conservatives in this country are, and since they dont have any real ideas to offer, the chances of that are very slim. hell, even doug hoffman, of the conservative party, couldnt win a congressional seat with all the support of the conservatives in the media.
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          • Author by Bongo Fury (December 12, 2009 8:55 pm ET)
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            Beck an activist?More like an atavist.America may be finally wising up to the con's negativity.
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      • Author by brianboyd (December 11, 2009 7:09 pm ET)
           
        You make a good point k1. While I, and many others, find Beck's pontifications both simultaneously vulgar and banal, that doesn't make his 'activism' essentially different from anyone else's.
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (December 11, 2009 10:11 pm ET)
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        Ugh, I have to agree with K1dork for a second time tonight. There's nothing wrong with Beck, on his opinion show, urging his viewers to petition their Senators. Olbermann, Maddow and Schultz all urge their viewers to contact Congress and pass healthcare reform (and I have done exactly that, even telling the staff of my Congressman, Chris Van Hollen, that he can expect to receive NO financial support from me if the Democrats fold under pressure from the insurance companies.)

        There's nothing to be outraged at here.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (December 11, 2009 10:36 pm ET)
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          I know how you feel, but in a free country, people are entitled to advocate for their opinion, even when you disagree to the core with everything they stand for. I need to make some phone calls next week or send letters.
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          • Author by DixieChyc (December 12, 2009 7:21 am ET)
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            Agreed! It is the American Way to allow all citizens the opportunity to advocate for their beliefs, even when they differ from yours. Well said about this free country of ours.
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            • Author by soze169880 (December 12, 2009 11:33 am ET)
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              That's funny, because you people spent 2000 to 2008 telling me that if I ever disagreed with George W. Bush (who was, after all, appointed by Republican Jesus) on anything, I was evil, immoral, unpatriotic, and actively aiding terrorists. I'm kind of amazed that you named yourself after a victim of this McCarthyism and you STILL have the nerve to pretend it didn't happen.
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        • Author by soze169880 (December 12, 2009 1:41 am ET)
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          The point here is that Beck is actively trying to mobilize people to carry out a political agenda. He's "organizing" a "community", if you will. Which makes him a grotesque hypocrite, considering he's on record as saying all community organizers are automatically socialists.
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        • Author by johnrod10 (December 12, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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          uhhem...I think some "thumbs down" are in order for mr/mrs jjamele. He said he agrees with kdork?? Come on everyone, lets get him/her/it.
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        • Author by New Frontier (December 13, 2009 11:05 am ET)
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          Olbermann, Maddow and Schultz all urge their viewers to contact Congress and pass healthcare reform

          Do they? Do those broadcasters say, "THIS (health care reform) MUST PASS!", in the same, urging manner as Beck? Maybe they do. I'd like to see examples.

          Btw: There's Beck's activism, and then there's, 'If you'd like to make your voice heard, call your senator'. There's a quite difference of degree, imho. At one end of the scale, you have Beck's desperate, almost begging plea.
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      • Author by Theodore (December 12, 2009 4:20 pm ET)
           
        What does that mean?!
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (December 12, 2009 8:51 pm ET)
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        Political activism for the right wing pundits is dissing a fairly elected president(been a while) and naysaying anything that will benefit the working class.Cons still think they have the answer,but don't bother to retrospect what their policies have done to our country.Liberals are patriotic too,but tend to speak of real data and not drummed up data from conservative think tanks that exist only to preserve their dogma.
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    • Author by Handyman (December 11, 2009 6:46 pm ET)
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      Your "John Birch Society" Skousen BS training is showing Glenn, all that was lacking was for you to take you shoes off and pound them on the table. You MUST tell you Senators to vote against Healthcare!!

      Get a life!!
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      • Author by srtsljr (December 11, 2009 7:19 pm ET)
           
        What makes you so insecure about another option. I live in Maine where we basically have a single payer, Anthem insures 80%. I want another option that is more affordable than the $21,442 I pay now. Up 28% the last two years. What are you going to do when you loose your insurance which is quranteed to happen??
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    • Author by pete592 (December 11, 2009 7:22 pm ET)
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      "I'm sorry. Did that sound like hate speech?"
      His insertion of this completely irrelevant quip exemplifies how thin-skinned, unprofessional and childish Glenn Beck really is.

      Having a little trouble brushing off and ignoring criticism there, Becky?

      Is it getting to you so much that you find it necessary to insert little taunts directed at your critics while you're addressing your devotees with another black helicopter tirade?
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (December 11, 2009 8:02 pm ET)
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      Political activism: Beck urges viewers to tell their senators to vote against healthcare reform

      Yep I can say vote against this stink form of health care reform. Because of conservatives in the democrat and republican party bought by corporations we as a people will get screwed! Should have started with single-payer.

      ‘Medicare Buy-In’ Is Really a Subsidy to Private Insurers: Harvard Professor
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (December 11, 2009 10:15 pm ET)
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        I don't know why that earned you two thumbs-down. If I were a member of Congress, I would struggle with the decision to vote for this mess, though I very much want real health care reform.
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        • Author by mescal (December 12, 2009 2:14 am ET)
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          I wouldn't struggle at all, even though I, too, very much want real health care reform. The problem is, this sell out to the health insurance industry is anything BUT real health care reform. I would vote against it and do my best to force Congress to offer MEANINGFUL reform, and NOT this contrived means of transferring even more of the American people's wealth to these selfsame greedy, bloodsucking corporations that have been calling all the shots (to our detriment) for the last 80 years. Hell, the Bush Maladministration might have advocated for the current plan being offered up if they'd thought of it. Single Payer is the optimum plan, but, at the very least, the competition inherent in a public option is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to bring down costs and to cover ALL of those whom the insurance companies have traditionally deemed not profitable enough to cover themselves.
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        • Author by Boxer1979 (December 12, 2009 10:42 am ET)
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          You know jjamele, I do not even worry about the thumbs down issue. If people would actually do research they would see that this bill is so watered down it is just the same as status quo except now everybody would be required by law to get health insurance. I do not mind the mandate for everybody getting health insurance, but to not have no reform in the private health insurance industry is a slap in the face to hard working people. The people who gave me a thumbs down know nothing about the issue except it was passed by a Democratic Congress and White House.

          Nevermind the lobbying by the Medical Industrial Complex to corrupt the politicians. Nevermind the fearmongering by the conservatives to confuse the American people. This reform bill that is on the table stinks. The only way to do it is Universal Single-Payer PERIOD!
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          • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (December 12, 2009 4:32 pm ET)
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            The only way to do it is Universal Single-Payer PERIOD!

            This health care reform has turned into a health insurance company full employment act

            The real problem now is political. If the Democrats, who screwed this thing up by negotiating with themselves, give up or don't get it passed, the republicans will gain strength in 2010 and that's the last thing I would want to see.

            The is only one way out now. Get this bill passed. Then get rid of the Democrats who carried the water for the insurance companies and/or elect enough real Democrats in the senate to get to the 60 votes and fix the bill in 2011 before any real damage is done.

            I for one would like to see Harry Reid go. He has turned out to be a spineless senate leader. If he had the gut's he would have have told these spineless democrats to vote the party line on the procedural votes or they would lose their coveted chairmanships or any other perks the party rewards them with, including financial help with their re-election.

            If they want to change party's, I say go right ahead. Let them see how long they will last as "liberal" Republicans. The right wingers would eat them alive.



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            • Author by jjamele2880 (December 12, 2009 6:44 pm ET)
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              I agree, but I'm not handing 100 percent of the blame off to Reid, Lieberman, Nelson, Lincoln or anyone else. There's also the little issue of the man in the White House, who never took a leadership role in this entire debate, who was and continues to be more interested in bending over backwards to appease and try to win just one Republican vote, and who apparently doesn't understand the meaning of the word "No." If Obama had been a real leader, and a real Progressive, he would have used Single Payer as a starting point and worked from there- instead, he allowed Baucus to throw the idea overboard before the debate even started.

              I snicker to myself whenever I hear XM/Sirius' commercials for "Real Liberal Talk" featuring President Obama. When the President speaks, I don't hear any liberal talk. I hear a compromiser who would rather get Joe Lieberman's vote than provide real health care reform for the millions who desperately need it. "Change We Can Believe In"- yeah, right.
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              • Author by Boxer1979 (December 13, 2009 10:06 am ET)
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                If Obama had been a real leader, and a real Progressive, he would have used Single Payer as a starting point and worked from there- instead, he allowed Baucus to throw the idea overboard before the debate even started.

                Obama is a moderate, while behaving like a progressive before being elected. When he gave it to a guy who took 3.4 million from the health insurance industry to start the Max Bogus health bill it began a systematic watering down of bill that should be strong and for the people, instead of corporations.
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            • Author by snoopy (December 12, 2009 8:51 pm ET)
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              I have to agree. We got a few bones and some closed loopholes, but the public option trigger was stronger than the public option offered. Get it passed and let's hope we get a few more democrats riding in on coattails next year - enough to tell the blue dogs to screw off!
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            • Author by Boxer1979 (December 13, 2009 10:01 am ET)
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              I for one would like to see Harry Reid go.

              He is behaving weak to those conservative democrats in the senate. Baucus, Nelson, and Lincoln is a start for dems that needs to go. Unfortuantly the places where they live is dominated by conservatives. SAD!
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              • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (December 13, 2009 11:34 am ET)
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                Unfortunately the places where they live is dominated by conservatives. SAD!

                The ironic thing is that when you look at polling in those states, the Democrats wanted a public option, and the independents were pretty well split down the middle about a public option. Seems to me if they were voting to represent the folks who elected them, they would vote for at least a public option.

                One day Democrats will learn they get elected by being a Democrat, not for being more like a Republican. Howard Dean understood that concept.

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                • Author by mescal (December 13, 2009 9:11 pm ET)
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                  "Seems to me if they were voting to represent the folks who elected them, they would vote for at least a public option." - rwmcdonald2091



                  The problem is,RW, that these political prostitutes are representing those who FUNDED them. They are in it strictly for the money and the prestige of being members of Congress, and don't give a rat's ass about the needs and wishes of the people of their districts and their states. They are simply high-priced corporate whores, who cheerfully busy themselves about the task of fellating their corporate paramours

                  They haven't caught on yet, though, that the rise of the internet is changing virtually everything in national politics. It will allow us to directly fund the challengers to these useless, cheesy political courtesans in the Democratic primaries of upcoming elections. They will likely have to learn the hard way that Democratic voters want Democratic politicians who will represent THE VOTERS' INTERESTS by voting as Democrats, rather than as Republican Lites.
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    • Author by skylar7617 (December 12, 2009 11:37 am ET)
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      Beck has every right to urge political activism by his viewers. If they're stupid enough to believe what he says & to support policies antithetical to their own interests, that's just a cost of the freedom he prates so endlessly about.
      Beck also has the right to lie, distort & misrepresent facts - his stock in trade - but caveat emptor! The bottom line for Beck, Limbaugh et al. is this: "We make millions filling your heads with garbage. Cutting taxes at the expense of programs that help everyone means we'll keep more. As millionaires we'll be fine without a safety net. Who gives a damn about anyone else, including you & your family?"
      Beck isn't stupid, he just capitalizes on the stupidity of others; but he is abysmally ignorant, which makes him genuinely funny. His explanation of "singularity", for example, is excruciating!
      The line about hate speech is a typical right wing ploy. No one would call those remarks hate speech. By implying that liberals would, however, Beck insults them & simultaneously plays the victim. Poor Glenn!
      The most remarkable thing about this clown is that anyone takes him seriously. Seeing him "weep" out of faux patriotism just once should be enough. Makes you gag!
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