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Limbaugh invokes "Indian lingo": "We in heap big doo-doo"

December 14, 2009 3:26 pm ET

From the December 14 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Lilmbaugh Show:

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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (December 14, 2009 3:29 pm ET)
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      What do you mean "we", kemosabe?
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    • Author by kfraz43 (December 14, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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      No, Rush - you ARE heap big doo doo.
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    • Author by The_Cat (December 14, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
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      We didn't keep ourselves out of a depression, Rush. Sound economic policy kept us out of a depression, and it has received precious little thanks from 'wingers like you. If you wish to see 'heap big doo-doo', check the mirror. I think you've just discovered your Indian name, pale face.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (December 14, 2009 5:17 pm ET)
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        I thought it was Dances with Boys.
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        • Author by neon desert (December 14, 2009 5:23 pm ET)
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          Little Bigot Man
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          • Author by The_Cat (December 14, 2009 8:14 pm ET)
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            Sometimes, I wish there were a secret underground 'blue' version of this site. I was imagining the opening quote, suitably altered to poke fun at Rush, but I just can't bring myself to put it up. It might make it past the filters, but it just doesn't seem appropriate somehow.

            How 'bout it, MMfA? Will you make a secret underground site, mirroring this one, with no profanity filters? A seasoning of bad language can add a much needed punch, transcending vulgarity to achieve art in it's purer forms. Someplace with a less restrained, perhaps more festive atmosphere where we can poke fun at the ignorance of various talking heads? Or, does one already exist, and I'm just not hip enough to be aware of it?
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        • Author by neon desert (December 14, 2009 5:26 pm ET)
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          Chief Crazyhorsesass
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    • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 3:33 pm ET)
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      The accusations of racism are the bread-and-butter of MMs.

      "See, Rush is racist against Indians too!"
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      • Author by JLP (December 14, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
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        No, he is just stupid.
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      • Author by The_Cat (December 14, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
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        I'm not so sure about that, k1dork. However, truckling to ignorant racists is Rush's bread and butter.
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      • Author by Major Tom (December 14, 2009 3:52 pm ET)
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        I would love for you to even attempt to prove otherwise... and if you want examples of how he is... I know we can provide you with them.
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        • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:08 pm ET)
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          There is no consensus on what is racist. Most of the people saying how "racist" Rush is here, aren't even minorities, but are white liberals who don't agree with his politics or his sense of humor.
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          • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 4:16 pm ET)
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            I'm not a liberal, I am a conservative. You're right, I don't agree with Rush's politics [whatever the heck they are, I know they aren't conservative] nor the twisted and RACIST hate speech that passes for his "sense of humor." There is nothing funny in the racism that Rush exhibits.

            Limbaugh is an overpaid RADIO DISC JOCKEY, kdork, with a very, very limited education. The fact that people like you listen to him and believe that he's anything but is very scary.
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            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:21 pm ET)
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              The man makes some good points sometimes. You don't have to agree with someone 100% of the time.

              I don't think you have anything to be scared about. What I'm scared of is people who can't listen to someone who has a different opinion, without getting scared.
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              • Author by The_Cat (December 14, 2009 4:24 pm ET)
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                I'm beyond curious, k1dork. What is one good point Rush Limbaugh has made?
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                • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:32 pm ET)
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                  You have a completely opposite political ideology than Rush does, so I'm sure his "good ideas" when seem like horrible ones to you.
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                  • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 4:35 pm ET)
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                    Most intelligent people DO have "completely opposite political ideology" than Rush, including most REAL conservatives. Rush isn't a conservative, k1dork. Nothing he espouses and nothing in his personal lifestyle has anything to do with conservatism. If you agree with his phony ideology, you aren't a conservative, either. His only ideology is Rush Limbaughism.
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                    • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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                      I don't agree with 100% of what he says. I think he makes some good points sometimes, but that's it. I don't believe 100% of what ANY pundit says.
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                      • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
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                        Rush isn't a "pundit," k1dork. Rush is an overpaid radio DJ who just throws crap out and hopes that uninformed people like you will buy it.
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                      • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
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                        Rush isn't a "pundit," k1dork. Rush is an overpaid radio DJ who just throws crap out and hopes that uninformed people like you will buy it.
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                        • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:03 pm ET)
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                          Is their a degree required to be a political pundit?
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                          • Author by Übermensch (December 14, 2009 5:14 pm ET)
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                            Is their[sic] a degree required to be a political pundit?


                            pundit:
                            an expert in a particular subject or field who is frequently called on to give opinions about it to the public


                            I guess so
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                            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
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                              OK. Well, by that definition, regular Americans with political OPINIONS should remain silent about political matters, if Rush has to.
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                              • Author by Übermensch (December 14, 2009 6:36 pm ET)
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                                OK. Well, by that definition, regular Americans with political OPINIONS should remain silent about political matters, if Rush has to

                                False analogy.

                                Rush isn't a regular American citizen with a political opinion...Rush is a Public Figure with a political opinion.

                                Last time I checked...average people on message boards or elsewhere have never called themselves "pundits"
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                          • Author by neon desert (December 14, 2009 5:19 pm ET)
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                            Nope. Neither is there a degree required to be a citizen, to vote, to raise kids, or to decide which pied piper to follow.

                            Democracy is damned by the very stoopidity and ignorance it protects, if the citizens allow it. The followers of limpaugh, hannitard, et al, are not only allowing it, they're contributing to the cause.
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                  • Author by The_Cat (December 14, 2009 4:43 pm ET)
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                    Your reply to my query indicates to me that you can't think of one good point Rush Limbaugh has made. I put no restrictions or limitations or conditions on my request, only that it by an example of a good point Rush made, supplied by you. Not up to it?
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                    • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
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                      Please, that's not it. It's just that I don't sit and write down whenever he says something I agree with. I'm just telling you of my experience in listening to his show, and that I simply am not offended 100% of the time I'm listening.
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                      • Author by The_Cat (December 14, 2009 4:53 pm ET)
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                        Fine. You say he makes some good points sometimes, yes? So, if you can't recall any to mind, even just one example, then I'm afraid I'm not buying the idea that he makes any good points at all. Admittedly, I'm not a regular listener to his show, but the little I've been exposed to has been mostly based on emotional, fact-free ranting. I offered you a chance to provide just one good point, and you seem ready to pass that up.

                        Whether or not you're offended all the time you listen doesn't really factor into it. A lack of offensive material is simply not the same as making a good point.
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                • Author by John Paradox (December 14, 2009 7:11 pm ET)
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                  I'm beyond curious, k1dork. What is one good point Rush Limbaugh has made?

                  Beyond the one at the top of his head...or is that the sheet?

                  /snark
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              • Author by political_left-religious_right (December 14, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
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                You don't have to agree with someone 100% of the time.

                Hey, dork, I hope you keep that thought in mind when the neocons go after Obama for his connections with Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Kevin Jennings, ad nauseum.
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              • Author by New Frontier (December 14, 2009 5:25 pm ET)
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                What I'm scared of is people who can't listen to someone who has a different opinion, without getting scared.
                Like a right-wing dittohead trolling a progressive web site, accusing MMFA & commenters of bogus inferences of racism.
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                • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:33 pm ET)
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                  Trolling for that thumbs up, are you?
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                  • Author by New Frontier (December 14, 2009 5:50 pm ET)
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                    What's the matter, troll? Can't stand to read that someone has a different opinion about racism than you do? What are you scared of?
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                    • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:53 pm ET)
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                      I'm not a troll. I don't even know what a troll is. I've probably been a member of MM longer than you. And no, I don't have a problem with you having a different opinion, and UNLIKE YOU, I don't really feel the need to call someone names for having a different opinion.
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                      • Author by John Paradox (December 14, 2009 7:15 pm ET)
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                        4. online false statement used as Internet lure: a carefully worded but incorrect statement that is designed to lure other Internet users into sending responses ( slang )

                        http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?lextype=3&search=troll
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                        • Author by Übermensch (December 14, 2009 9:20 pm ET)
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                          by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:33 pm ET)
                          Trolling for that thumbs up, are you?


                          Followed by:


                          by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:53 pm ET)
                          I'm not a troll. I don't even know what a troll is.






                          priceless
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          • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 4:16 pm ET)
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            There's some consensus. The fact that it's a subjective matter doesn't mean that it can't be sufficiently demonstrated that he's a racist. It would just mean you would deny it regardless of the weight of the argument.

            And what the hell difference does it make whether those claiming racism are white or not? You don't have to be a minority to recognize bigotry against a minority.
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            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
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              It's not about the weight of some argument for me. It's about whether or not one is offended or thinks that something is racist.

              Sure, I can see how SOME of his comments that people SAY are racist could be viewed that way, BUT, I can also see where some of the things that people say are racist are just knit-picking, and not necessarily racist.
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              • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 4:52 pm ET)
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                Well, explaining why something is racist would be an argument. If you're talking about pure emotional reaction, then there's really no point in talking about a consensus because such a thing would hardly be possible in such a context.

                Your comment about distinguishing between "knit-picking" actual racism is exactly what I'm talking about. You're evaluating the weight of the argument based on the nature of the "knit-picking" evidence.
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                • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:06 pm ET)
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                  I guess. I just don't think all of the things that people say are "racist" are in fact racially offensive.
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                  • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
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                    Neither do I, as most liberals here are quite aware. I just don't buy into the idea that something is subjective, therefore an argument can't be made to prove it. By all reasonable standards, such a thing is entirely possible, even by white people.
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (December 14, 2009 5:39 pm ET)
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            "there is no consensus on what is racist." --k1dork.

            Fine. Then why do you spend almost a dozen posts complaining because someone else's definition of racism doesn't match yours? As long as you are going to insist that we use your yardstick before we call someone a racist, could you please tell us what your definition is?

            Or better yet- check out your original post, admit that you've already told us that you don't know what racism is, and STFU. Because once you've admitted it's a matter of opinion, you really had nothing further to add.
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            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:48 pm ET)
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              I'm not insisting that you go by my definition of what is racist.

              I just don't think that all the examples cited as "Rush's racism" are racist. I can understand how OTHERS could think so, but I don't think much of it is racist, because I don't think he is trying to be racially offensive.

              I personally think something is racist when it is intended to be hurtful and racially offensive. I'm a black guy from Texas, so believe me when I say that I've have my share of encounters with racism.
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              • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 5:54 pm ET)
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                So how about someone who makes it clear that they think black people are inferior, and treats them in a patronizing manner? The intent wouldn't be to offend there, because they would be displaying genuine pity. Wouldn't that person's statements be racist?
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                • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 6:01 pm ET)
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                  I would think so, if they stated that blacks are inferior simply because of race. I'm not aware of Rush saying that he thinks blacks are inferior.
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                  • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 6:05 pm ET)
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                    Then you don't believe that the standard for racism is whether someone is trying to be racially offensive, as you said.
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                    • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 6:10 pm ET)
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                      I think racially offensive and intent plays a role.

                      I think someone stating that they think blacks are inherently inferior is racially offensive, whatever their "reasoning."
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                      • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 6:22 pm ET)
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                        But surely that's not the only way to show racism, is it? This is where we get into the gray area of determining what is and what isn't racism, and "trying to be racially offensive" isn't required at all. You can rarely make that determination, so it's an absurd standard to hold. There's a middle ground between "black people are inferior" and "oh, he's just joking around..."
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                        • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 6:25 pm ET)
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                          How do you figure you can "rarely" determine whether something is racially offensive? I think it's fairly simple to determine if someone is trying to offend, but that's just me.
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                          • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 6:30 pm ET)
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                            How? Do you read minds?
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                            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 6:33 pm ET)
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                              No, but it's just not that hard. I'm certain that you can tell when someone is trying to offend you. Usually I'm sure it involves insulting you in some way.

                              For instance, I could tell that this one person was racist when they called me the n-word and then sicked dogs on me. It wasn't that difficult to read their intent.
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                              • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 6:40 pm ET)
                                   
                                Right, and how often does that sort of thing happen? Often? Occasionally? Rarely?
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                                • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 6:47 pm ET)
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                                  It happened to me once. Well, once with the dogs being involved.

                                  I've been called the n-word a few times, and every time I was somehow able to realize that they were trying to offend me.
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                                  • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 7:00 pm ET)
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                                    Right, so rarely, then. The rest of the time that someone suggests racism, then they're not racist by default. This is an especially absurd standard when you think about the application to people in the media, who know how deadly it is to say anything explicitly racist. That's exactly why it's so difficult to say "they're trying to offend minorities..." and essentially leads one to believe that nobody in the media is a racist.
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                                    • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 7:07 pm ET)
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                                      It's ridiculous, bro. Any time we have to look for subliminal clues for someone's "racism" it's going to be problematic. You're going to get people who swear that something is racist, and people that swear that it's not.
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                                      • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 7:12 pm ET)
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                                        No, that's how subjectivity works. You make reasoned and fair arguments, and whoever is right will make their case better. You don't scrap the whole concept because there's going to be some unreasonable people involved.
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                                        • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 7:18 pm ET)
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                                          Racism is often based on feelings. If someone doesn't feel that something is racist, who is anyone to tell them that they are wrong?
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                                          • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 8:06 pm ET)
                                               
                                            Because logical interpretations of words can easily reveal that someone is racist, whether someone else feels otherwise or not.
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              • Author by jjamele2880 (December 14, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
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                We know you are black. You only remind us every other time you post. You remind me of an old Phil Hendrie character, Doug Dannger, who would tell the listeners "I'm a gay man and a gay journalist" several dozen times per interview.

                I can't figure out if you are obsessed with your skin color, or just determined to use it as a shield to stave off criticism. Either way, pretty sad.

                By the way, I'm a white guy living in Maryland. Does that matter?
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                • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 7:09 pm ET)
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                  It would matter if I told you that you have no idea where white people are coming from on issues, which is regularly said about me and blacks, which is why I'm always having to state that I am black.

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                  • Author by soze169880 (December 14, 2009 7:18 pm ET)
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                    Shorter k1dork: I only pretend to be black when I think it makes my opinions criticism-proof.
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          • Author by Samurai Cowboy (December 14, 2009 7:59 pm ET)
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            k1dork: Until Rush got this national gig via the RNC, he was a fired failure at every job, radio and otherwise, that he had. He appeals to the under educated and those with low I.Q.'s who are very easily brainwashed. Feed them dog shiite long enough and before too long they start acting like dogs. Repeat the same mantra over and over and they begin to act like parrots repeating everything that they hear.
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      • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 3:57 pm ET)
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        Well, since you and Rush used the term "Indian" to describe Native Americans and Rush used blatantly stereotypical language that he knew or should have known was offensive to said Native Americans. . . . could be you are BOTH bigots and in Rush's case, outrageously insensitive to the rights and concerns of others.

        Just a thought, though.
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        • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:10 pm ET)
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          I use the word Indian. That does NOT make one racist against Indians or Native Americans. I live in Washington state. MANY of the "Native Americans" here refer to themselves as "Indians."

          Maybe you are the one who needs to get out more.
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          • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 4:17 pm ET)
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            Nope . . . I'm part Cherokee, both sides of my family. I've been called a "half-breed" by people like you and Rush. Maybe it's time for you to re-think your "non-racist" racist beliefs, kdork.
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            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:25 pm ET)
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              I'm a black guy married to a white woman. I wouldn't call you a half-breed, so I'd appreciate you not ASSUMING that I am a racist.

              I have Indian friends, and they don't mind being called Indian. Maybe some people are just looking to be offended.
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              • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 4:36 pm ET)
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                You are defending a man who is a racist, k1dork. You do it all the time. What does that say about you?
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                • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:48 pm ET)
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                  Does it mean that I am racist? I don't know.

                  I just don't think that some of the things that he's said that PEOPLE SAY ARE RACIST, are actually racist.

                  I think it says that I have a different idea of what is racist is than you. Does this make me a bad person?
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            • Author by foghornleghorn (December 14, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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              Off topic, but what's your opinion of Chief Wahoo and other Native American imagery in sports? There's a high school around here with the nickname "Redmen".
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              • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:34 pm ET)
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                I see how it COULD be viewed as offensive, BUT, I've also heard "Indian" and "Native Americans" actually DEFEND such names, claiming that they are throw-backs to their heritage.
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                • Author by foghornleghorn (December 14, 2009 5:15 pm ET)
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                  I should have written that the question was directed towards bintx.
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                • Author by soze169880 (December 14, 2009 5:24 pm ET)
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                  Uh-huh. You're a black guy who's obsessed with Reverend Wright, and you have Indian friends who defend racist imagery. Your fantasy world is charming.
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              • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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                He got thumbs up for asking a question, and I git thumbs down for answering it? How can a question or an answer be right or wrong in this case?
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                • Author by soze169880 (December 14, 2009 5:25 pm ET)
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                  You get a thumbs-down because you're a right-wing troll who apologizes for the most blatant examples of racism.
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            • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2009 12:30 am ET)
                 
              I'm not at all offended by being called Indian. On the reservation, many of us still call ourselves Indians. Rush claiming the crap he spewed, as Indian lingo, I find offensive. His insinuating, that Native Americans, talk like that, is insulting.
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (December 14, 2009 7:06 pm ET)
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            Hey k-dork, if you defend Rush and say he's not a racist based on your background as a black guy, why do you instantly dismiss bintx's offense at the word "Indian?" How come you get to have the final say as to whether Rush is a racist or not because you are black, but bintx doesn't get the final say on whether "Indian" is a proper term because he's a Native?

            I know black people who refer to themselves as N**gers. Does that mean that if I, a white person, uses that term, I'm not being racist?

            And once again, "there is no consensus on what is racist," but you know Rush isn't racist, and you know you aren't. How did you pull off that neat little trick?

            Come back when you've taken a few classes in Debating 101.
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            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 7:14 pm ET)
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              It's all good, to me. I'm just discussing the issues. No big deal.

              If something can be racist to one person, but not to another, then it's all pointless.

              Is there, or can there be, any truth?
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              • Author by jjamele2880 (December 14, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
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                If you really believed what you just typed here, what was the point of the previous dozen or so posts?

                "If something can be racist to one person, but not to another, then it's all pointless"- so if you don't find something racist, it's not racist. Got it.

                "Is there, or can there be, any truth?" Yes, here's a nugget of truth- you enjoy reading your own posts and listening to yourself type. That's the only way I can comprehend why anyone would spend the time you did bashing anyone who said Limbaugh as a racist, while first saying "we can't know what racism is" and concluding (hopefully) with "Is there, or can there be, any truth?"

                Your brain is a disaster area. Hey, another nugget of truth!
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          • Author by Samurai Cowboy (December 14, 2009 8:03 pm ET)
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            I lived around the Souix in Western South Dakota for 4 1/2 years. They call themselves Native Americans. I call them worthless burdens to society because most of them refuse to work for a living. Their living is handouts from the White Man, who is responsible for them from cradle to grave. I guess that makes me a racist
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      • Author by clams casino (December 14, 2009 3:59 pm ET)
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        And you're saying he isn't?
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      • Author by Don Quixote (December 14, 2009 4:02 pm ET)
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        If it smells like a dog, and barks like a dog, then it must be a racist dog...

        ... like your amigo Rushbo (another oh-so-clever vieled mockery of the Spanish language; you know it's just so funny to put an "o" at the end of words and viola, you're speaking Spanish!)
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        • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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          It's a joke, dude. People make fun of different accents all the time. It doesn't mean somebody is racist.

          Lighten up.
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          • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
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            This isn't making fun of an accent, kdork. It's making fun of a group of people. Rush is a racist . . . as I said, the fact that you don't see it . . . speaks volumes about you.
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            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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              Is Eddy Murphy a racist for impersonating Jews in Coming to America?

              Can you not comprehend that someone can bring up racial things WITHOUT being a racist? Talking in the accent of a group of people simply does not necessarily make one racist. I think this is the tolerant way to look at it.
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              • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
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                I thought that Eddie Murphy making fun of Jews was a bit over the top, yes.

                Again, this isn't "talking in the accent of a group of people," k1dork. It is using a stereotypical FAKE language pattern. Stereotyping a group of people is RACISM, k1dork.

                I'm outta this discussion.
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                • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:50 pm ET)
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                  If someone is just trying to be funny, like Murphy, what's the problem? Sorry, but I think OFFENSIVE INTENT matters.
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                  • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 5:08 pm ET)
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                    Sorry, but I think OFFENSIVE INTENT matters.
                    That much is true. I think the distinction here is that Limbaugh has a long history by which to judge the intent of his humor.
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                    • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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                      What would his intent be, then?
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                      • Author by Brabantio (December 14, 2009 5:22 pm ET)
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                        To denigrate Native Americans, of course. Personally, I'm not up in arms about this sort of thing by itself. I think the proper term is "Native American", just to prevent ambiguity if nothing else. But if someone has a history of blowing off the plight of Native Americans (because they now have casinos, for instance), that changes things a bit. It's harder to take something as just a joke when the person doesn't care about the needs or history of that group.
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          • Author by Don Quixote (December 14, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
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            Correction: racist people make fun of different accents all time. I know of no non-racist people that make fun of others' accents. Thank you for exposing your true colors.

            There's nothing more annoying than knuckledragging racists who tell you to "lighten up" or get a sense of humor after their racism has been exposed. It's a pathetic attempt to make the hypersensitive minority the one who's the problem as opposed to the racist. It's a diversionary smokescreen.
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            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:37 pm ET)
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              Right, because you and only you know what is racist. I'm a black guy with friends from ALL different races. We don't mind poking fun at our differences.

              Maybe you need to get out of you little box, and experinece that everyone who finds humor in such things does NOT have to be racist.
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              • Author by Don Quixote (December 14, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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                You may be black, but you're not Black. If you were Black, then maybe you'd be more aware of how comments made by someone with a history of racist behavior and comments would be construed as racist.

                Cluelessness is not a respecter of skin color.

                Now, the NFL players who refused to work for Limbaugh? Those guys are Black.
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                • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
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                  I'm not black? I'm not black because I don't fit into some idea of blackness that YOU have?

                  Look, I understand HOW, I just don't agree. I just don't agree that some of the things that people say are racist are actually racist.
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          • Author by The_Cat (December 14, 2009 4:20 pm ET)
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            You can claim it's a joke, and Limbaugh can claim it's a joke. I've watched many comedians work, and they all have something in common. No matter how disciplined, no matter how rehearsed, no matter how deadpan they strive to be, sooner or later they all crack themselves up. They say something, maybe for the hundredth time, that just tickles them so much that they can't help laughing.

            The reason you and Rush claiming he is joking is that I never hear this. I never hear him just sitting back and laughing his backside off, slapping his knee, the whole bit. And so, I don't think it's comedy. Just my opinion, but as much anger and hate as he seems to harbor, I'm not really sure he's capable of what most of the rest of us would recognize as comedy, k1dork.
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            • Author by The_Cat (December 14, 2009 4:22 pm ET)
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              'The reason you and Rush claiming he is joking' s.b. 'The reason I don't believe it when you and Rush claim he is joking...'
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            • Author by k1dork (December 14, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
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              Wow. Then you don't listen to his show. He laughs at his own jokes, and even says that he knows he will catch hell from MM sometimes.
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    • Author by Handyman (December 14, 2009 3:39 pm ET)
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      Isn't this the same guy a while back that something like "I don't see what the problem is with Indians, they have Casino's"?

      Give your cat another kiss on the lips, it will make you feel better.
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    • Author by What Happened to Gannon (December 14, 2009 3:54 pm ET)
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      Sounds like a little man-child to me.
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    • Author by bintx (December 14, 2009 3:54 pm ET)
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      Maybe he's talking about Bush/Cheney, et al. Twenty-two million (yes, 22 MILLION) formerly "missing" and "lost" e-mails from that administration have been LOCATED. These include the "lost" and "missing" e-mails from the period of time of the CIA outing. Could be interesting.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (December 14, 2009 3:55 pm ET)
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      Rush, do you believe everything that you say? Well, if you do, you in heap big do-do, Wasechee?
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    • Author by pilotshark (December 14, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
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      No rushbuttboil>> its you who's in deep do do and what I dont understand is why you are crying about it. I mean you seem to enjoy sitting there and rolling and playing with your do do and all, with your butt fetish as well.
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    • Author by Don Quixote (December 14, 2009 4:07 pm ET)
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      Twisted uber-conservative logic #2,459:

      You can freely say racist things, and if/when someone calls you out for it, it's because they're "reverse racist" (since hatred of racist white people is the new racism), or because they're just "playing the race card again".
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (December 14, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
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      Limbaugh invokes "Indian lingo": "We in heap big doo-doo"

      You look like a big heap of doo doo or:

      [http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/d/j/2/limbaugh-the-hut.jpg]

      Yep. That is you Rushie!
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    • Author by Lord of Light (December 14, 2009 5:49 pm ET)
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      The "joke" isn't funny or witty. Surprise, surprise.

      Besides, I thought Rush said that all poor people had to pull themselves up even if the government was pushing policies that benefit only the rich -- as it did for most of Bush's eight years. And that complaining about not being able to make ends meet or pay for healthcare was "whining." So even if the economy is bad -- and I, of course, trust a man with a high school education -- what does he care?
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    • Author by Samurai Cowboy (December 14, 2009 7:51 pm ET)
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      Rush is heap big pile of Bantha Poo Doo
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    • Author by John Paradox (December 15, 2009 2:36 am ET)
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      I just realized what cliche is missing:

      White (fat) man speak with forked tongue.
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