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Beck shows image of Misinformer of the Year item, continues to claim it wasn't backed up with facts

January 04, 2010 5:52 pm ET

From the January 4 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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Previously:

Beck: "[S]ome liberal blogs" who named him Misinformer of the Year "didn't back it up with any facts"

Glenn Beck: Media Matters' 2009 Misinformer of the Year

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    • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 5:55 pm ET)
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      We got it. You just posted a topic 26 minutes ago saying basically the same thing.
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      • Author by bintx (January 04, 2010 5:58 pm ET)
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        Why, there you are . . . right on cue. Where you been?

        A clue . . . Beck mentioned it again and told the same lie again. That's what warranted another post. Capiche?
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        • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 6:02 pm ET)
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          I get it. I just think it's redundant.

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          • Author by epkklk851 (January 04, 2010 6:06 pm ET)
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            Absolutely. Glenn is often dedundant. He will pitch the same load of swill on TV that he spewed in the morning on the radio. So, why shouldn't he be called on it each and every time?
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            • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 6:21 pm ET)
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              I'm just giving my opinion. I don't think posting the SAME topic is a partisan issue.
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              • Author by IRONY 101 (January 04, 2010 6:31 pm ET)
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                I'm just giving my opinion. I don't think posting the SAME topic is a partisan issue.
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          • Author by New Frontier (January 04, 2010 6:25 pm ET)
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            Glenn Beck never repeats anything.
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            • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
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              There's a bit of a difference isn't there? I mean, Beck is a guy talking during a show, and MMs is a site that posts topics for comment.

              It just doesn't make sense to me for THE EXACT SAME DISCUSSION TOPIC to be posted within minutes. Slow Beck day, I guess.
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              • Author by New Frontier (January 04, 2010 6:43 pm ET)
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                There's a bit of a difference isn't there?
                You're right. One's a wingnut you defend, the other's a progressive website where you troll.
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                • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 6:47 pm ET)
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                  And you defend a website that pays you nothing, as if you're a stockholder or PR representative.

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                  • Author by New Frontier (January 04, 2010 6:53 pm ET)
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                    Beck says MMFA didn't back up their opinion with facts.

                    Beck lies.

                    I'm not defending a website. Unlike you, troll, who has nothing whatever to say about Beck's lie, I'm defendingtruth. Maybe it's different in Wingnut World, but I don't need to be paid to do that.
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                    • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 7:33 pm ET)
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                      If you want to be technical, much of the criticism this site has about Beck are in fact OPINIONS.

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                      • Author by Max Credits (January 04, 2010 7:49 pm ET)
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                        Right, Beck's "not saying there are FEMA concentration camps ..."
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                      • Author by DellDolly (January 04, 2010 7:56 pm ET)
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                        If you want to be technical, your post is a troll post, intended to derail the conversation away from the fact that not only did Beck claim that MMFA didn't document why they called him the serial misinformer of the year, but he THEN, later in the same show, pointed to the very posting MMFA had made that showed the documentation. It's further documentation that he had all the proof he needed to show himself that MMFA had, in fact, documented their accusation of him being the worst misinformer of 2009.
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                      • Author by New Frontier (January 04, 2010 7:57 pm ET)
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                        If you want to be technical, much of the criticism this site has about Beck are in fact OPINIONS.
                        If you want to be "technical", Beck's "opinion" that Van Jones spent time in prison turned out to be a flat-out lie.
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                        • Author by mescal (January 04, 2010 8:24 pm ET)
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                          And an often repeated lie at that.
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                        • Author by Right-Wing-Nutjob (January 04, 2010 10:29 pm ET)
                             
                          Not quite.
                          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/van-jones/15-years-ago-rodney-king-_b_48361.html

                          He was arrested and did spend jail time. According to him, the arrest was unlawful in itself, but it still resulted in him getting to know some iron bars.

                          Note that those are Van Jones's own words.
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                        • Author by highliter (January 05, 2010 12:21 pm ET)
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                          No but he did spen time in jail, kind of splitting hairs there arnt ya.
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                          • Author by DellDolly (January 05, 2010 1:38 pm ET)
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                            No, jail and prison are not the same thing. If you're in prison, you've been convicted of at minimum a fairly serious crime. People can be in jail for contempt of court, or because they got arrested (but never convicted) or because they committed a minor offense.
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                          • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 05, 2010 2:26 pm ET)
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                            We wouldn't expect you to understand the difference between jail and a prison sentence, hi. You suffer from the same basic lack of intellect as Beck.
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                          • Author by mescal (January 06, 2010 1:49 am ET)
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                            No, it's NOT splitting hairs. Dreck repeatedly and falsely claimed that Jones spent several months in PRISON as a result of his violent and out of control behavior in Los Angeles after the Rodney King verdicts. This was patently and verifiably false. In fact, it was a blatant lie by the doughboy, done for the purpose of smearing Jones.

                            The truth was that Van Jones was arrested while representing the law firm that he worked for, serving as a monitor for a PEACEFUL protest in San Francisco. It was a bogus arrest, and a clear overreaction by the San Francisco Police Department, a fact that has been substantiated by the SFPD paying Jones a cash settlement for violating is rights.

                            More to the point, these were facts that could easily have been confirmed by that lying weasel of a Bircher, Glenn Dreck. Instead, he LIED in a shameless Goebellian manner in order to smear Jones, and to weaken the President. Dreck demonstrated his pronounced deficiencies of character and a sociopathic indifference to the truth and the damage that his malicious lies wreak upon others.
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                      • Author by magnolialover (January 04, 2010 8:49 pm ET)
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                        Ahem, even opinions should be backed by facts, or factually based, and if they're not, then you're not doing too well.

                        Aside from that, there are plenty of examples on here, and everywhere, that point out Beck's lies, misinformation, distortions, and other crap he spews.

                        Opinions can be wrong too.
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                      • Author by OtterQueen (January 04, 2010 9:41 pm ET)
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                        "Elvis was a great performer" is an opinion.

                        "Blue is a pretty color" is an opinion.

                        Compare these to:

                        "FEMA is building concentration camps" is a lie.

                        "Obama is a racist" is a deliberately misleading statement.

                        "ACORN rigged the elections" is flat-out nonsense.
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                      • Author by wzwriter (January 05, 2010 12:41 pm ET)
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                        And in my opinion, your're a brain-dead moron.
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                  • Author by Max Credits (January 04, 2010 6:55 pm ET)
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                    Back to the topic.... you admit that Beck stated a falsehood here so... Why not shut up already, friend?
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                    • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 7:35 pm ET)
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                      I don't think it's a falsehood, seeing that MANY of the posts here regarding Beck ARE opinions.

                      For instance, all of the accusations of racism aren't facts, but opinions.
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                      • Author by Max Credits (January 04, 2010 7:40 pm ET)
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                        So, it's your contention that Media Matters does not back up its Misinformer Of The Year award with facts?

                        Wow!
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                        • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 7:56 pm ET)
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                          I made no such conclusion. I simply said that MANY of the topics here about Beck ARE opinions. Sure, MM has some that point out factual inaccuracies in some of what Beck has said, but many of the topics are opinions.
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                          • Author by Max Credits (January 04, 2010 7:59 pm ET)
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                            I see the problem here, you're an insane and stupid liar. Pardon me for taking a moment to pretend otherwise.
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                            • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 8:05 pm ET)
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                              Wow. Why must you resort to insults? I have NEVER insulted you. Is this political bs that important to you? Politics is so important to you that you feel the need to insult anyone who disagrees with you?
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                              • Author by Max Credits (January 04, 2010 8:14 pm ET)
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                                Just stop lying and I'll stop insulting you, you silly stupid liar.
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                              • Author by New Frontier (January 04, 2010 8:29 pm ET)
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                                Politics is so important to you that you feel the need to insult anyone who disagrees with you?
                                Glenn Beck would never do anything like that. Like, as just one example, calling a Hispanic Supreme Court nominee or a black President of the U.S. a "racist".
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                  • Author by worrierking (January 04, 2010 7:14 pm ET)
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                    Are you implying that were defending a website that pays us nothing and you defend a talk show host who does pay you?

                    Some people have suggested that.
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                    • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 7:37 pm ET)
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                      I'm not defending him. I simply question the necessity of TWO posts with the EXACT SAME topic. Again, it's not really a partisan issue.
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                      • Author by Max Credits (January 04, 2010 7:45 pm ET)
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                        You just posted above that Beck is right about Media Matters not having any facts. Are you drunk?
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                        • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 7:59 pm ET)
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                          I was talking about the necessity for a double post about this topic. That was the topic of my initial post in this topic.

                          Also, thinking that someone has a point is not the same as defending them.
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                          • Author by Max Credits (January 04, 2010 8:03 pm ET)
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                            I don't care about your redundant redundancies posts. You claimed that Beck was right that Media Matters' Misinformer award was not backed up with facts. It was backed up with a ton of facts, you complete and total lying idiot.
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                            • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 8:07 pm ET)
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                              I didn't say that he was right. I said that MANY of the topics about Beck here are opinions. That's a fact.

                              I didn't say ALL of the topics about Beck are opinions. I said MANY.
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                              • Author by Max Credits (January 04, 2010 8:12 pm ET)
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                                I don't think it's a falsehood


                                That's what you wrote of Beck's claim here.

                                Liar.
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                                • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 8:22 pm ET)
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                                  And I still don't think it's a complete falsehood. MANY of the topics here are opinions.

                                  But, I'll clear up my stance, because lying is not what I'm about.

                                  Does MM support their claims with facts, YES. Are MANY of MMs' topics about Beck opinions, YES.

                                  Were many of those opinion topics used to show Beck as "misinformer of the year?" YES.

                                  Does many mean ALL, NO.
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                                  • Author by bintx (January 05, 2010 8:27 am ET)
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                                    The only opinions posted here are ours or the very clearly marked blog posts. The videos and audios are clearly BECK's own words.

                                    BTW, if you believe Beck has a "point," you are a very, very sad individual.
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                          • Author by bintx (January 05, 2010 8:26 am ET)
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                            C'mon, dork, fess up . . . you are defending yourself.
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                            • Author by Max Credits (January 05, 2010 12:59 pm ET)
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                              He's a liar, so he won't admit to posting here in defense of Beck, even though there's all these posts by him on this site by him in defense of Beck. This is absolute proof that k1dork is a liar and an idiot.
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                      • Author by New Frontier (January 04, 2010 8:01 pm ET)
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                        I'm not defending him. I simply question the necessity of TWO posts with the EXACT SAME topic.
                        Here's an idea: Try looking at only one of the two posts and ignoring the other, rather than writing 15 posts about how you're not defending Glenn Beck.
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                      • Author by DellDolly (January 04, 2010 8:04 pm ET)
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                        It's NOT the same exact topic though.

                        As I pointed out above, in one article by MMFA, they show Beck objecting to being labeled Misinformer of the Year, and claiming that MMFA didn't back up their assertions with research.

                        Then in this one, they show how he's full of crap with his first assertion since he actually points to the actual site that had the proof.

                        Different views of a similar complaint. It's not the same exact topic.
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                    • Author by mescal (January 04, 2010 8:41 pm ET)
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                      I find it fascinating, and quite telling, king, that the Dork has totally neglected to reply to your rather straight forward question about whether he is PAID to troll here.

                      I think that we can all draw some reasonable inferences from his failure to respond to that question.
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                      • Author by worrierking (January 04, 2010 8:55 pm ET)
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                        He does that all of the time. Completely disregards the main question and then continues to prattle on with his talking points.

                        He's been asked before and never answered. I draw the same conclusion.
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                      • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 11:06 pm ET)
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                        Are you people kidding me. I wish got paid to post in discussion groups. That would be cake.
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              • Author by jjamele2880 (January 04, 2010 7:49 pm ET)
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                K1dork, allow me:

                "look, I don't necessarily agree with the guy, I just respect his right to have an opinion, so much so that the words 'Glenn Beck' cause me to instantly post on this site, like clockwork.

                Sincerely, Pretty much every k1dork post."

                Now you can go back to whatever you are doing when Glenn Beck isn't being criticized. No fee.
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (January 04, 2010 6:32 pm ET)
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            I get it. I just think it's redundant.
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          • Author by wzwriter (January 05, 2010 12:40 pm ET)
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            I get it. I just think it's redundant.

            Like calling you a "stupid conservative troll" is redundant????
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 05, 2010 1:35 pm ET)
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            Wow. K1dork complaining about redundancy? That is delicious irony.
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      • Author by Max Credits (January 04, 2010 6:00 pm ET)
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        Are you suggesting that this twice told lie was somehow true one of the two times Beck said it?
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        • Author by Frankeee (January 04, 2010 10:40 pm ET)
             
          everyone stfu or this comment will be closed for incessant and stupid banter. There have been too many closed threads and stories closed down in the past week. Dont let trolls or feelings derail legit topics, no matter how hard the medicine is to swallow
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (January 04, 2010 6:32 pm ET)
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        We got it. You just posted a topic 26 minutes ago saying basically the same thing.
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      • Author by wzwriter (January 05, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
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        Sometimes things have to be repeated several times before you comprehend them, dork.
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    • Author by smmnth1002 (January 04, 2010 5:58 pm ET)
         
      I think he likes the label. He knows that misinformer of the year is much better than wing nut idiot mouth breather of the year. Barely beating out Palin and Bachman.
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    • Author by shaggles (January 04, 2010 6:00 pm ET)
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      I'm not comparing Beck to Hitler but I can imagine if Hitler had his own talk show: "They claim I killed 3 million Jews but where's the proof. They can't back up what they say. No one has ever shown any evidence that I killed millions of innocent Jews." Then he'd probably start crying about how much he loves the fatherland.
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      • Author by shaggles (January 04, 2010 6:01 pm ET)
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        Sorry. I forgot this> ;)
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (January 04, 2010 7:01 pm ET)
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        You make a very good point.

        I think Beck and his minions at Fox are very close to Hitler Radio. The wingnut media we have today would be the type of media Hitler would use until he could gain power.
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        • Author by k1dork (January 04, 2010 8:01 pm ET)
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          Right, anyone who has an opinion different than yours is a Nazi, because only those who are left-leaning have good intentions, and therefore their opposition is by default racist and hate-filled.
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (January 04, 2010 8:29 pm ET)
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            And k1dork has been reduced to stamping his foot and whining in record time. Congrats, everybody!
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          • Author by worrierking (January 04, 2010 8:42 pm ET)
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            Many on the right have good intentions. But Beck isn't one of them. Anyone who disagrees is a communist, socialist or a fascist. He paints his opponents as being un-American and not worthy of respect.

            He represents the most dangerous element of our society, those with very little understanding of how things work and absolutely no desire to learn.
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          • Author by bintx (January 05, 2010 8:30 am ET)
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            C'mon, dork, we've been over and over and over this so much, it's become redundant. Beck is a dishonest, hate-filled, uneducated, racist. Has nothing to do with his alleged political leanings. He is what he is.

            Why be so redundant with your inane arguments that people dislike him for his "opinions." They dislike him because he is a dishonest, hate-filled, uneducated, racist who is convincing dishonest, hate-filled, uneducated, racist people that he has a "point."
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            • Author by Boxer1979 (January 05, 2010 1:59 pm ET)
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              They dislike him because he is a dishonest, hate-filled, uneducated, racist who is convincing dishonest, hate-filled, uneducated, racist people that he has a "point."


              Becky also is a paid fascist by corporations.
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        • Author by shaggles (January 05, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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          That wasn't my point. I clearly stated I was not comparing Beck to Hitler. ;)
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    • Author by smmnth1002 (January 04, 2010 6:01 pm ET)
         
      I think Glen Beck is actually right about the claim he made in the clip. They did not come up with one fact he got wrong or grossly distorted. They came up with Many Many Many facts that he got wrong, grossly distorted, or just plain pulled from his own anus.

      See Beck aint so bad......
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    • Author by rtejon (January 04, 2010 6:08 pm ET)
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      He should have avoided using the exact phrase, "misinformer of the year" because his entry is number 2 in my Google search.

      Then again, I tried with correct spellings.
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    • Author by hugacat7374 (January 04, 2010 6:28 pm ET)
         
      I say every reader of MMFA, FactCheck.org, & PolitiFact.com pick a Beck lie that has been debunked and email it to him.
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    • Author by edgewaterprog (January 04, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
         
      When do we get to see him cry? I was really wanting to see it.
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    • Author by New Frontier (January 04, 2010 6:40 pm ET)
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      Beck: "Saul Alinsky said, pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and then polarize it. [...] It's a distraction."


      If you totally ignore Beck's targeting, freezing, personalizing, and polarizing of Jones, Jennings, Creamer, Sotomayor, etc. etc., night after night, then Beck doesn't look like a hypocrite or a disciple of Saul Alinsky at all.
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      • Author by epkklk851 (January 04, 2010 6:50 pm ET)
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        Very true. Old liberal me, I never heard of Saul Alinsky went Glenn started whining about him last Spring. But Glennie sure must have paid attention, he mastered the technique.
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        • Author by rtejon (January 05, 2010 3:05 pm ET)
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          I admit that I had to look up Saul Alinsky in Wikipedia and I read of someone who was effective, widely admired and fiercely independent, refusing to join even the organizations he founded. Hardly the communist insurgent Beck, WND and company have tried to portray.
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          • Author by mescal (January 06, 2010 1:57 am ET)
               
            Wait just a damned minute there, Buster. You're not suggesting that the doughboy isn't completely fair and honest in his portrayals of people on the left, are you? ;o)
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    • Author by worrierking (January 04, 2010 6:41 pm ET)
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      Has anyone else noticed that certain wingnut media personalities have their own groupies?

      I've heard they're also plaster casters.
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    • Author by JW, Denver (January 04, 2010 7:22 pm ET)
         
      Aw shucks. That's our Glenn. Yuk, yuk, yuk...
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    • Author by draftedin68 (January 04, 2010 7:27 pm ET)
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      Another 4-letter word...

      For those like Limbaugh, Hannity and Mormonster Beck, the word "fact" has a very special definition.

      For them, a fact is anything they say.

      Got that?

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    • Author by TheAtheistGoatee (January 04, 2010 7:32 pm ET)
         
      here we are just days into the new year and mr. beck is already mounting his campaign to defend his title.
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    • Author by toombsie (January 04, 2010 8:00 pm ET)
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      "It's a distraction" - says the distraction
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (January 04, 2010 9:33 pm ET)
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        FIVE! Oh Looky There's, says The Deparment of Redundancy Department!
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    • Author by SpacePedestrian (January 04, 2010 9:20 pm ET)
         
      Facts are subjective around here, right?
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    • Author by proudconservative (January 04, 2010 9:47 pm ET)
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      The question remains, do you align more closely with marx or Madison? Are you for the rights of groups or the rights of individuals?
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      • Author by jeffro (January 04, 2010 10:34 pm ET)
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        Proud, Should corporations have the rights of an individual? The question shall remain.
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      • Author by Frankeee (January 04, 2010 10:43 pm ET)
           
        Are you for the rights of all or the rights of Americans?
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      • Author by sternn77 (January 04, 2010 10:53 pm ET)
           
        I align myself with people that capitalize proper nouns! It's Marx, not marx. Oh, and if you are suggesting Beck is for the rights of individuals, I doubt it. He's likely only really concerned with his ratings.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (January 05, 2010 12:56 am ET)
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        I do not think that the two groups are always mututally exclusive.
        Any other artificial arguments?
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        • Author by bintx (January 05, 2010 8:33 am ET)
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          I'm thinking that phonyconservative has no IDEA what Madison believed. He's probably getting his information from that stellar conservative scholar, Glenn Beck. In other words, he has NO idea what Madison believed or said.
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      • Author by bintx (January 05, 2010 8:32 am ET)
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        If you aligned yourself more closely with Madison, phonyconservative, you wouldn't use the word "conservative" in your screen name. My suggestion is that you give Federalist 10 a read.
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        • Author by betogrande (January 05, 2010 11:17 am ET)
             
          Or wait for glenn beck to "read" it for you and tell you what you should think it says. And by "read" I mean that someone who can read will tell him what it says.
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      • Author by wzwriter (January 05, 2010 1:19 pm ET)
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        Not-so-Proud Conservative is more aligned with the speeches of Harpo Marx and a rancid container of Dolly Madison Ice Cream. :-)
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    • Author by DUtch (January 04, 2010 10:07 pm ET)
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      Media Matters did not back up the Glenn Beck smear with fact one.

      That's a fact.
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    • Author by kanemaster (January 04, 2010 10:10 pm ET)
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      I'll admit I'm a libertarian, however I'm confused as to how you guys can logically diss Beck when he is showing the actual video clips of these political personalities saying what they are saying. That is not misinformation, it is what it is.
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    • Author by NesForBeck (January 05, 2010 1:10 am ET)
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      Glenn Beck is right and you know it, and instead of attacking him personally, why dont you grow a pair and some fact checking.
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    • Author by NesForBeck (January 05, 2010 1:12 am ET)
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      test
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    • Author by joedla1117 (January 05, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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      How can you prove anything to a person who is in complete denial. Every bit of fact supplied goes on to a deaf ear. I continue to supply absolute facts in replies to the fabricated right wing E-mails. They also fall on deaf ears. I guess these people are the ones that we can sell our bridges to.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (January 05, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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      Beck shows image of Misinformer of the Year item, continues to claim it wasn't backed up with facts

      There he goes starting a new year as the misinformer for 2010.

      Hillary Clinton did not start MMFA. A former conservative David Brock did. Second, show proof George Soros funded MMFA? He never will so why ask.

      *Facepalm*
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    • Author by 4freedom (January 05, 2010 6:12 pm ET)
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      I would love to hear this website give us proof instead of just rhetoric, but they can't. PROVE BECK WRONG OR SHUT UP!!!!!
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