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Hume on Woods conversion comment: "I'm still glad I said it and I'd say it again, I reiterate it here"

January 11, 2010 8:14 pm ET

From the January 11 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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Previously:

Hume explains his advice: Tiger Woods needs "redemption and forgiveness" which "Christianity especially provides"

Hume calls on Tiger Woods to be "a great example to the world" by converting to Christianity

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    • Author by Bongo Fury (January 11, 2010 8:23 pm ET)
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      Yep,only one true religion and that is the one of the almighty Hume,whatever that is.I ask the religious right to stay out of my morality and my bedroom.My dharma is my dharma and not subject to scrutiny by "true believers".
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 11, 2010 8:33 pm ET)
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        Haha, he doesn't want his "do-over". What a maroon. Everybody in the media is going to say stupid stuff at one time or another, but this guy has had, what, weeks to find somebody to explain this to him? He's got every opportunity to retract it, and he's sticking with it. Do these Foxbots associate only with other cult members?
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (January 11, 2010 8:37 pm ET)
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          Hey, they think it is great. You can be "bad" and then ask for forgiveness. It is the best religion around.
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        • Author by fairliberal (January 11, 2010 9:37 pm ET)
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          Speaking of bots can you or any of your mindless cohorts show how Hume was wrong? In fact his comments displayed a awareness of how Buddhism and Christianity differ on the subject of forgiveness. I know you prefer to just criticize anyone on Fox, but why not try to refute his comments for a change. I wonder if you even know what he said?

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          • Author by archae (January 11, 2010 9:45 pm ET)
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            The point is, Hume feels only *HIS* religion can make everything all peahes and cream for Woods again.

            This is religious bigotry, period.
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            • Author by fairliberal (January 11, 2010 11:04 pm ET)
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              Your response seems to be a tacit acknowledgement that Hume was indeed correct . I wonder though if you consider the folks who criticise Christian beliefs as religious bigots also? They too think that their way is the only way.

              "In this controversy, we are presented with two models of discourse. Hume, in an angry sea of loss and tragedy -- his son's death in 1998 -- found a life preserver in faith. He offered that life preserver to another drowning man. Whatever your view of Hume's beliefs, he could have no motive other than concern for Woods himself"
              The other model has come from critics such as Shales, in a spittle-flinging rage at the mention of religion in public, comparing Hume to "Mary Poppins on the joys of a tidy room, or Ron Popeil on the glories of some amazing potato peeler." Shales, of course, is engaged in proselytism of his own -- for a secular fundamentalism that trivializes and banishes all other faiths. He distributes the sacrament of the sneer.

              Who in this picture is more intolerant?

              http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/07/AR2010010703244.html
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 12, 2010 1:22 am ET)
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                "...Whatever your view of Hume's beliefs, he could have no motive other than concern for Woods himself"


                Bullsh*t, there are plenty of other motives. You just accept this opinion as fact because of your own blind bias.

                Shales, in a spittle-flinging rage...


                I see a light-hearted critique of Hume's arrogance. You agree with "spittle flinging rage" only because it suits your insecurity about your faith, and coddles your persecution complex.

                ...a secular fundamentalism that trivializes and banishes all other faiths.


                And, strike three, there's no "faith" being pushed by Shales,and no attacks on the faith of others, only one man's opinion about Hume's dismissal of other faiths.

                I was thinking of asking you what it feels like to fail so constantly, Faillib, but then I realized that would be like asking a fish what it feels like to be wet.

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          • Author by IRONY 101 (January 11, 2010 9:52 pm ET)
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            I hope you are not suggesting a religious debate about whether Christianity provides the greatest opportunity for forgiveness? If that's the case some people may fairly insist on a preliminary debate regarding the existence of a god.

            You still don't get the point why Brit Hume's proselytizing on a so-called news network was inappropriate, do you?
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            • Author by fairliberal (January 11, 2010 11:37 pm ET)
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              Actually you still don't get it that both O'Reilly and Hume provide commentary. Do you know the difference between reporting and commentary? Your references to a "news network" when discussing a commentary broadcast indicates you do not.

              But it is noteworthy that not one person has provided any fact that shows that Hume was incorrect in his assessment.

              http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/01/08/fox-tiger-and-christianity-a-defense-of-brit-hume/
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              • Author by New Frontier (January 12, 2010 8:53 am ET)
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                You're defending Hume because he's Brit Hume, on Fox News, and he's advocating Christianity. And if it was a Muslim commentator (good luck with that) on MSNBC advocating Islam? Or an atheist on CNN? Yeah, right.
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          • Author by worrierking (January 11, 2010 10:24 pm ET)
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            Hume states that Christianity provides "redemption and forgiveness".

            They do know such thing. Redemption and forgiveness are earned by being truly sorry for your transgressions.

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        • Author by Kikabi (January 11, 2010 10:21 pm ET)
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          Do these Foxbots associate only with other cult members?


          I beg your pardon, but Christianity, like Buddhism, is Not a cult. I object because the word "cult" has a negative connotation. I don't think what Hume did was appropriate, though.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 12, 2010 1:26 am ET)
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            I was referring to the Republican cult,not Christianity, Kikabi, but since you brought it up,as a non-religious person, they're all cults to me. As somebody once said, a religion is just a cult that made it.

            If you believe "cult" carries a negative connotation, why do you think it's ok to apply it to others beliefs, but not your own?
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            • Author by Kikabi (January 12, 2010 12:10 pm ET)
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              Thanks for the clarification, Col. I apologize for my wrong assumption. I'm new around here and still learning the lingo!

              Also, I'm not for the word "cult" to be used for just any religious group that holds different beliefs than my own. I don't consider Buddhism or Islam to be cults, for instance. Although I am for using the word as it's meant to be used, fairly and accurately. There are times when the word does fit.
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 12, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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                Not your fault, I wasn't clear. I generally don't use the word cult to refer to anybody's spiritual beliefs, but I use it freely in describing today's GOP. It seems much more accurate than "political party".

                I'll admit to sometimes referring to Christianity as a cult, but usually in response to phony Christians dismissing the beliefs of others as less valid than their own. No offense intended to real Christians.
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      • Author by Nasty Liberal (January 11, 2010 8:54 pm ET)
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        Hume's dogma ran over his karma... I know, I know.
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    • Author by Billos (January 11, 2010 8:36 pm ET)
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      When has religion never been turbulent in our history in the public square. Hume seems to think that it was'nt alway's this way. Clearly religious insensitivity is the game hear and it is badly influencing their viewers with this notion of one person or group passing judgement onto another on the sole basis of religion. Being remorseful or bearing forgiveness onto another are much stronger traits of christianity. Besides self reflection of ones own beliefs is all thats really important and none of this public circus act is impressing me with the notion that this is sincere becuase it is clearly not. Furthermore to be converted on the basis of force or fear of damnation is a horrible and disgusting recruiting tactic that has proven throughout history to be an evil on society, to control the masses. Do I smell billy graham in the room.
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    • Author by MickD (January 11, 2010 8:41 pm ET)
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      What a tough, gutsy reporter. Sticking to his maladjusted principles because alcoholism or a Murdoch paycheck has addled his brainpan. Give this man an Pulitzer, stat.
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      • Author by cindermaker (January 11, 2010 9:07 pm ET)
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        Is it just me or is the only reason Hume is on any of these shows is anymore is because he said this drivel?
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 11, 2010 9:06 pm ET)
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      Brit Hume, FOX News Senior Political Analyst, still thinks it's okay for a Senior Political Analyst to proselytize on behalf of his religion on a purported news network...and even on further review he sees nothing wrong with that?

      Brit, I'm sorry your son committed suicide, which is reportedly why you found Jesus...but, to be totally frank, all you're doing is bringing your own personal emotional baggage into the public spotlight.
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      • Author by fairliberal (January 11, 2010 11:45 pm ET)
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        There you go again , confusing a news reporting show with a commentary show. Maybe you can get your teacher to explain the difference to you some time. Better yet, have the teacher write it down for you then maybe in a few months it will sink in. But I am not optomistic.

        "Let's look at what happened. According to Buddhist journalist Barbara Hoetsu O'Brien, Hume is correct about Buddhism. That faith does not offer forgiveness and redemption the way Christianity does. That's because Buddhism has no concept of sin"

        http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=35125
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 12, 2010 1:30 am ET)
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          If nothing else productive comes from this topic, Faillib, you have at least learned one thing (obviously, because it seems to be the foundation of what you're passing as an argument here);

          Fox "News" is not a news channel, it's an outlet for right wing emotional opinions. And it's where you and many other right wing sponges get your "news".

          Try to remember that the next time you're whining that nobody wants to have a serious discussion with your pre-teen- girl-style emotional arguments.
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    • Author by WoodstockNation1969 (January 11, 2010 9:34 pm ET)
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      O MY GOD!
      If the Panty Bomber excepts JC as his savior... CAN he then be forgiven for being extremly stupid!!
      O MY GOD !!
      What if Osama bin Laden was to convert to Christianity, and excect Christ as his savior, and was then forgiven for all of his crimesand sins. He then devotes his life to helping the poor.
      Would Osama bin Laden, then no longer be worth 4 million US dollars , becouse GOD has forgiven him ??
      Silly minds need to know!
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      • Author by fairliberal (January 11, 2010 9:42 pm ET)
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        What an idiotic post. I attended Woodstock too, apparently you took too much of the bad acid, you obviously ingested too much of it.
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    • Author by highnrising (January 11, 2010 9:37 pm ET)
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      For someone who's supposedly so humble and charitable, Brit Hume seems incapable of comprehending that there are people who are not Christian-haters but believe in good faith that foising one's religion on others during a NEWS program is offensive.

      He keeps playing the victim but he's absolutely clueless as to his own self-indulgence.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (January 11, 2010 10:29 pm ET)
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        And, until recently, Hume was the TOP news guy at FOX News! What does that alone say about FOX? And now they keep trotting him out to repeat these clearly inappropriate remarks?
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 11, 2010 10:35 pm ET)
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      If Tiger Woods ever made it known that he wanted to take Hume's advice and become a Christian can you imagine the financial windfall that one church would get? Ministers would be crawling over each other to get to Tiger like divorce lawyers trying to get to Elin Woods.
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (January 11, 2010 11:48 pm ET)
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        Or buddhists would become humble and non-phased by it all...oops,never mind.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (January 12, 2010 7:17 am ET)
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      Hume on Woods conversion comment: "I'm still glad I said it and I'd say it again, I reiterate it here"

      It is all about Christianity and NOTHING ELSE with these two kooks! Hume and O'Reilly needs to get a plane tickets and fly to the moon! If they make tickets for those trips.

      SMH!
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