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Beck on foreign aid to Haiti: "Have you been to Detroit lately, Mr. President?"

January 15, 2010 1:26 pm ET

From the January 15 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

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    • Author by shaggles (January 15, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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      What in hell does that mean? Is he trying to say we should pump more money into our own depressed areas? I agree but if we did Beck would be the one screaming the loudest about what a waste of money/scam/reparations it was and it doesn't lets us off the hook for helping out when there's a huge natural disaster like this.
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      • Author by MagCynic (January 15, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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        It means our government doesn't have the greatest track record at rebuilding poor, ravaged areas. They can't fix health care. They can't fix the economy. What makes you think they can fix Haiti?
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        • Author by bintx (January 15, 2010 1:38 pm ET)
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          They are HELPING Haiti as are most other compassionate people in this world. What is wrong with you people? I'm serious. What is WRONG with you?
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          • Author by 924h89 (January 15, 2010 1:55 pm ET)
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            MagCynic is making the point that our public sector infrastructure, i.e. the government, is not the most efficient at utilizing funds for solving such problems. The entire bailout saga, starting with Bush and grossly expanded and typified with Obama, has illustrated his point well.

            Thus, if you want to HELP the maximum number of Haitians in the most efficient way, use private charity IN LIEU OF federal aid. Same money, but more effective. That strikes me as MORE compassionate, so what is so terribly WRONG about that? Charity Navigator, GuideStar and other websites and their articles and academic studies will help show you which are the most effective.

            What is WRONG with thinking logically? And I'm not just trying to mock you, I'm being serious as well.
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            • Author by bintx (January 15, 2010 2:16 pm ET)
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              Riiigggghhhhtttt! That's EXACTLY what he was saying.

              Logic will tell you that donations to private charities will not be sufficient, no matter how much people send. Logic will tell you that the federal government [which is you and me, btw] has more access to the heavy equipment, the building materials, etc., that are needed immediately. Logic will tell you that it is in our country's interests to make sure that a devastated country whose government is in a shambles which is within striking distance of our country see us as a friend and not an enemy.

              As for thinking logically . . . that's part of my profession. I have absolutely no difficulty with logic and critical thinking whatsoever, but, based upon your post, you do. Carry on.
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            • Author by pecst1 (January 15, 2010 3:19 pm ET)
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              Well, all sarcasm aside you do make a good point. If you read some of the articles from the sites you mention and others, NGO's(non-governmental organizations) and private charities do spend money more effectively. That is, over time. Year in year out, they are more effective.
              The problem with applying that to the Hatian situation is, that no NGO or private charity has the equipment or logistical man power to handle a devastation that was this fast and this severe. The US military, inconjuction with the International Red Cross, and other world relief agencies and private charity will all be working together. It's not as if the NGO's are left out of the process. That's one of the perceptions that Beck is propagating and it's simply not true.

              The UN aid chief makes that exact point in this Reuters article. Notice his last words on private organizations like Blackwater in the last paragraph though.
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        • Author by shaggles (January 15, 2010 1:50 pm ET)
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          WHo said anything about fixing Haiti? This is disaster relief. Nothing more. Exactly like Bush did for the victims of the tsunami in 2004.
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        • Author by New Frontier (January 15, 2010 1:53 pm ET)
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          "Rebuilding poor, ravaged areas" like Detroit has always been one of Glenn Beck's big causes.
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          • Author by edgewaterprog (January 15, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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            And the Republicans...

            Talk about hypocrisy. How can people listen to this moron without either laughing or flinging their radio across the room?
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            • Author by stukes (January 15, 2010 2:18 pm ET)
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              I notice in all of these responses that there is no genuine answer to MagCynic's question. Just alot of name calling and berating. Liberals' mantra seems to be "look at my intentions, not my results." No wonder; all the places across the US that have been run by liberals for decades are at least on the verge of economic collapse, if not also poverty stricken.

              Please stop the childlike name calling and enter into an intelligent discussion.
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              • Author by New Frontier (January 15, 2010 2:29 pm ET)
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                Please stop the childlike name calling and enter into an intelligent discussion.
                Yeah. Let's.

                Glenn Beck: "Obama is a white-hating racist."
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              • Author by bintx (January 15, 2010 2:31 pm ET)
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                Why are you defending these people? They aren't conservatives at all. If they thought they could make the same kind of money pretending to be liberal, they'd be pretending to be liberal.

                Sorry, I'm a conservative and I totally agree with the liberals here that Beck is a moron.
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              • Author by edgewaterprog (January 15, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
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                Really?

                I don't think you understand the history of urban policy in the US. Otherwise, you would not blame it on "liberals" or whatever right-wing bogeyman you can think up.
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              • Author by bintx (January 15, 2010 2:58 pm ET)
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                Have you ever visited the website "freerepublic," if not, I suggest that you do so. Then come back here and remark on the "childlike name calling."
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              • Author by shaggles (January 15, 2010 3:19 pm ET)
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                What name calling are you talking about? I don't see any related to MagicCynics post. And what question did he ask anyway? The only one is see is the rhetorical "What makes you think they can fix Haiti?" preceded by unsupported claims about govt ineffectiveness.
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    • Author by The New Pilgrims (January 15, 2010 1:32 pm ET)
         
      Other famous demagogues (from Wiki):

      Alcibiades: Convinced the people of Athens to attempt to conquer Sicily during the Peloponnesian War, with disastrous results. He led the Athenian assembly to support making him commander by claiming victory would come easily, appealing to Athenian vanity, and appealing to action and courage over deliberation.

      Cleon: Another leader of Athens, criticized by Thucydides for anti-intellectualism and for such rhetorical devices as accusing his political opponents of having been bribed and appealing to savage desires such as aggression.

      Adolf Hitler: Led the Nazi party to power in Germany by appeals to ethnic pride and conspiracy theories that blamed Jews for the nation's economic troubles. He instituted government control over the news media, and used his charisma and great oratorical skills to lead Germany into a war aimed at expanding its territory.

      Joseph McCarthy: U.S. Senator from the state of Wisconsin from 1947 to 1957. A poor orator,[1] he rose to national prominence during the early 1950’s by accusing a number of politicians and other individuals of being either communists or communist sympathizers. He presented himself as being above reproach while anyone who questioned or disagreed with him he branded as disloyal to the US government. Ultimately his inability to substantiate his claims led him to be censured by the United States Senate in 1954 and a loss of popular support.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 15, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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      Why would you want to help Detroit, Glenn? It's overrun with black people...
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      • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (January 15, 2010 1:51 pm ET)
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        That's exactly why Beck said Detroit. He really wanted to say the "N" word, but instead choose "Detroit" as the code word.
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      • Author by stukes (January 15, 2010 2:10 pm ET)
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        We'd do well to ask the same of Bill Clinton, Harry Reid and Joe Biden who all seem to be pretty racist themselves. Why do they get a pass? Why is there no anger on these pages toward them?
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        • Author by New Frontier (January 15, 2010 2:36 pm ET)
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          Bill Clinton, Harry Reid and Joe Biden who all seem to be pretty racist themselves
          So much for the "Please stop the childlike name calling and enter into an intelligent discussion", eh?
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        • Author by magnolialover (January 15, 2010 3:47 pm ET)
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          Really? Like to point out some examples of said racism?
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    • Author by bintx (January 15, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
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      Beck, you know what you'd be saying to the people of Detroit? Please review the video from yesterday's show wherein you agreed with your guest who called poor people "domesticated animals" for the answer to that question.
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    • Author by bintx (January 15, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
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      Have you noticed the common thread in all of the purveyors of hate's message today? They are all saying the EXACT SAME THINGS. Wonder if anybody's found a copy of the RNC talking points for the day. DISGUSTING!
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      • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (January 15, 2010 1:56 pm ET)
           
        When it comes to the right wing blowhard echo machine talking about black people they don't need RNC talking points, it's a learned and/or a built in reaction.

        Seems I learned something about that kind of reaction in elementary school. Something to with a dog?????
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      • Author by 924h89 (January 15, 2010 2:00 pm ET)
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        Yeah, trusting more effective private charities over less effective federal dollars, DISGUSTING!

        [/sarcasm]
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        • Author by bintx (January 15, 2010 2:19 pm ET)
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          You really need to use more logic and critical thinking in your idiotic posts there, bubba. [no sarcasm]

          I responded to your last one above.

          I will repeat, these people are DISGUSTING examples of the human species.
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        • Author by soze169880 (January 15, 2010 3:46 pm ET)
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          That MIGHT be a solution if right-wingers weren't so feverishly obsessed with money, and paralyzed with fear at the thought of said money somehow being given to Teh Blacks. Do you know why Beck and his ilk want everything left to private charity? BECAUSE THEY'LL NEVER GIVE TO PRIVATE CHARITY.
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    • Author by pilotx (January 15, 2010 1:46 pm ET)
         
      Last I checked no earthquake hit Detroit or does Fox know something I don't?
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    • Author by edgewaterprog (January 15, 2010 2:08 pm ET)
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      Beck is sounding really bad. I think he needs to rest his voice for a few days...or weeks...or...

      Or maybe he will just use his voice until it is completely destroyed and he will not be able to speak ever again.
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      • Author by John Paradox (January 15, 2010 4:29 pm ET)
           
        Are you implying Glenn could become literally 'dumb'?

        [Lacking the power of speech. Used of animals and inanimate objects.]
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        • Author by edgewaterprog (January 15, 2010 6:29 pm ET)
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          Yes...literally dumb.

          Of course he would still have his stupid chalk board but that would really tend to slow the pace of his TV show.
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    • Author by snewkirk (January 15, 2010 2:17 pm ET)
         
      Hey Glenn, where's the free market in just letting people receive care on our government-run "giant ships that are hospitals"?

      *sick sarcasm
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    • Author by pecst1 (January 15, 2010 2:32 pm ET)
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      So, to sum up:

      Relief for Americans, and the private sector (which includes Detroit's major employer,the auto industry) in the form of stimulus and TARP from the Fed. Not good.

      Relief for a devastated nation from the Fed. Not good.

      US Military on the ground in Haiti. Good

      Asking the (magical) private sector to take responsibility for providing the aid. Good.

      Wait Glenn, I thought asking the private sector to do anything is commie, especially for a foreign nation? Wait Glenn, I thought you didn't want stimulus to places like Detroit? Now you do? Wait Glenn, I thought troops on the ground in foreign nations, except for war, was anti-Constitutional or anti-American?

      Glenn.... WAIT! Are you making this up as you go along? I'm getting the impression your principles are subjective.
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      • Author by soze169880 (January 15, 2010 3:47 pm ET)
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        Of course his principles are subjective. He's a Mormon drunk. That tells you everything you need to know about his devotion to principles.
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      • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (January 15, 2010 6:15 pm ET)
           
        Please don't ever make another post like this one. I have some problems with my neck, and when I read your post, the whiplash has caused the neck problems to occur again.

        Will someone please let Rush know I need some pain killers, ASAP !
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    • Author by GBU-15 (January 15, 2010 2:55 pm ET)
         
      THANK YOU!
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (January 16, 2010 4:25 pm ET)
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      Beck on foreign aid to Haiti: "Have you been to Detroit lately, Mr. President?"

      The devestation and economic decline in Detroit was not entirely the government's fault dummy. The deregulation of businesses primarly The Big 3 led to CORPORATIONS becoming knowledgeable that I can send my business overseas and pay a cheaper wage, while making citizens here unemployed. The corporation lobbying money led to deregulation and the decline of middle class in Detroit and all over the country.

      Try Again Becky! SMH!
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