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"Religious bigotry": Beck smears Coakley over her remarks on emergency room procedures and treatments

January 18, 2010 6:08 pm ET

From the January 18 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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Previously:

Fox Nation, Hoft falsely claim Coakley said "Catholics" shouldn't work "in emergency rooms"

What kind of person lies about a "conscience issue"?

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 18, 2010 6:17 pm ET)
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      Hey, Glenn...what if a person's religion forbade eating or even handling chicken meat and she got a job as a cook in a hospital whose kitchen served chicken? What would you tell her if she refused to cook any dish containing chicken because of her religion? What if you were a patient in that hispital and eating chicken would be good for what ails you?

      Glenn, do want doctors and nurses who treat you only according to their own personal religious convictions?
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    • Author by Sharpe (January 18, 2010 6:25 pm ET)
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      Ummm NO! Brown voted for a bill that would allow emergency room workers to deny emergency contraception to rape victims if it was against their religious beliefs. Coakley was saying that if your religious ideals could interfere with your profession THAT MUCH as to refuse rape victims emergency contraception based on staunch religious beliefs then, you should probably not work in the emergency room. This follows with the hypocratic oath that says no no harm! Its the same thing for any profession - ifs one's belief are interfering with their ability to do their own job, they should probably not go into that profession or they may be fired. Way to take it COMPLETELY out of context Beck! That is so you!
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      • Author by temphandle tearfully55timetable (January 18, 2010 6:36 pm ET)
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        Thank you for stating the truth! I can't believe Brown is in the lead...stunning. The TeaPartyexpress/John Birch Society is running ads in support of this guy all over Fox, and while this is a given, I can't believe MA voters are this gullible. It's going to be quite an election year
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        • Author by romcom7 (January 18, 2010 11:42 pm ET)
             
          You should see some of the comments the teabaggers are posting on youtube. I swear they must be getting paid by the Brown campaign. it's crazy.
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        • Author by fairliberal (January 19, 2010 12:03 am ET)
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          Mass voters have been gullible for the last 40 or so years, remember Teddy the cheat, hypocrite, drunk, womanizer and killer?
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          • Author by Übermensch (January 19, 2010 12:06 am ET)
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            and yet, they still re-elected him based on his ideas of what did/could do for the people of Massachusetts.

            Strange.
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          • Author by Les Philling (January 19, 2010 12:09 am ET)
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            I don't know Mass politics very well but I would imagine someone who'd been around as long as Kennedy was and who was involved in so many bills, would have been able to bring home a lot of bacon to those voters.
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          • Author by ProgLib (January 19, 2010 4:56 am ET)
               
            the cheat, hypocrite, drunk, womanizer and killer


            Can you please explain (as you will in your typical BS'ing manner) how exactly Ted Kennedy was any of those things?
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      • Author by tman418 (January 18, 2010 11:52 pm ET)
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        Opponents of emergency contraception are very misinformed. For example, like the morning after pill. It WILL NOT do ANYTHING for a woman if she is already pregnant.

        It's just like people who say "If you're a vegetarian, why do you eat eggs?" Because the egg isn't fertilized nor was it a life form. You might as well accuse wool-wearers of animal cruelty.
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        • Author by fairliberal (January 19, 2010 12:10 am ET)
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          Not according to this.

          http://www.morningafterpill.org/how-does-it-work.html

          Notice the 3rd way the morning after pill can work.

          Planned Parenthood agrees....The hormones also thin the lining of the uterus. In theory, this could prevent pregnancy by keeping a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus.

          http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/emergency-contraception-morning-after-pill-4363.htm

          And BTW, wouldn't Peta consider wool-wearers cruel to animals?
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          • Author by Übermensch (January 19, 2010 12:20 am ET)
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            The morning after pill still will not work if you are already pregnant.

            end of story.
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          • Author by tman418 (January 19, 2010 5:52 pm ET)
               
            It's exactly as I said. It doesn't do anything for a woman if she's already pregnant.

            Pregnancy as defined by United States law by the Department of Health and Human Services as beginning at implantation, not fertilization.
            Here are the differences between the morning after pill (emergency contraception) and actual medication abortion

            The medical abortion works 63 days after implantation and terminatess a pregnancy. Emergency contraception prevents a pregnancy and primarily works to prevent fertilization.

            Also, I don't personally know PETA's stance on wool. I'm sure they're against it. But if they say such a thing, then yeah, it's stupid.
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    • Author by nerzog (January 18, 2010 6:35 pm ET)
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      Even if this isn't what Coakley meant to say, I agree with it. If you're such a thin-skinned Religious Twit that you get your panties in a wad over stuff like this, then you shouldn't be working in a hospital or a pharmacy.
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    • Author by Ination (January 18, 2010 6:39 pm ET)
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      Not that I'm a Democrat but I hope that Coakley wins just so the Republicans heads can explode simultaneously. I don't exactly know how has more hubris in this debate.
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      • Author by snewkirk (January 18, 2010 8:22 pm ET)
           
        If Coakly wins, I predict a talking point about how the Democrats are floundering in elections. It'll be similar to how the Dems "tanked" in november (2009) when 2 Republican governors & one Democrat congressman (NY-23) were elected.

        It hardly sets a precedent, but they'll run with it, I'm sure.
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    • Author by vysotsky (January 18, 2010 6:42 pm ET)
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      If a person's religious convictions hold that they must not treat anyone with a genetic pathology or congenital disorder because that person is cursed by God, then I'd appreciate it if that person didn't work in a public hospital. If a person's religious convictions conflict directly with their ability to perform their legal and professional obligations, then yes, I'd suggest that such a person needs to find a way to reconcile his or her personal beliefs and faith, professional ambitions, and the law -- just like everybody else.
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    • Author by blueline99 (January 18, 2010 6:42 pm ET)
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      Once again, the Right doesn't understand what freedom means.

      Religious Freedom means that the government cannot impose a state sanctioned religion upon me... it does not give the individual the right to practice religious beliefs that are illegal.

      Example, Christian Scientst pray for their 11yr old daughter with diabetes instead of taking her to the hospital isn't practicing religious freedom, but are guilty of second degree murder.

      If a hospital worker refuses to perform their duties because of religious beliefs, than they have no business working in the hospital.
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    • Author by soze169880 (January 18, 2010 7:15 pm ET)
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      I wonder how receptive Beck is to Muslims who work in grocery stores and won't handle pork. Why do I doubt he applies the same standards? Oh, right, because he already accused a sitting Congressman of being an al-Qaeda fifth columnist based on his religion.
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    • Author by Publius39 (January 18, 2010 7:19 pm ET)
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      Coakley's comments are actually good advice. I did not see a problem with them when I first heard her say it. It is the equivalent of a conscientious objector going into the military. There is always that possibility out there that your beliefs could be tested.
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    • Author by pilotx (January 18, 2010 8:03 pm ET)
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      Um yeah. If I'm in the emergency room and need a transfusion and your religious beliefs conflict with that action I don't want to die because of your conflict of conscious. Your religious freedom ends at my doorstep. If my actions cause harm to another then I should not be in a position to do that harm to anyone else. Go work in the nursery! Go work in geriatrics! Go work in the lab! This ain't rocket science but then again this is coming from the same group that feeds on a persecution complex. Yep, 70% of the population and they are sooooooooo persecuted. How do they ever do it?
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    • Author by epkklk851 (January 18, 2010 9:08 pm ET)
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      I'm a Catholic. I do not believe in abortion. I would not assist in the performance of an abortion and I wouldn't pay for one or take someone to get an abortion. However, I will not protest outside abortion clinics because there are people who choose to have abortions after much consideration. It is not MY place to make their decisions for them or prevent them from making choices that I disagree with. There are plenty of hospitals and pharmacies that are privately owned that receive no Federal funding and therefore can choose not to perform certain functions. Were I a health care professional, I would not choose to work in a hospital or pharmacy that would force me to choose between my faith and my job. There are lots of places to work; this whole war on faith is a fraud.
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    • Author by michaelr (January 18, 2010 10:16 pm ET)
         
      When you hear the entire conversation, you understand Coakley and there's nothing shocking about it. If you just heard this snippet that Beck played, wouldn't you be suspicious of the context? wouldn't you be curious if this was the whole story. It seems a little bit interesting that someone (a politician) would make such a potentially controversial comment like that. Maybe there's something more to it?

      O wait, I'm talking about Glenn Beck fans. Never mind.
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    • Author by 4teepee (January 18, 2010 11:09 pm ET)
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      Why should a Mormon, Jehovah's Witness, Christian Scientist, et cetera get to use their personal religious views to decide what emergency room treatment someone gets? Absurd.
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      • Author by pilotx (January 19, 2010 12:40 am ET)
           
        Because they can. It's all about control. If Rick Santorum, Jim Thune and Jim Dobson can make you see things their way there will be a permanent conservative majority. Hyper religious people don't understand religious freedom also includes freedom from religion. They are not interested in compromise because it is all based on what their "god" tells them to do.
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        • Author by exodus (January 19, 2010 4:49 am ET)
             
          what is beck catholic, mormon, no matter what he his he'll go to his chruch sunday and they'll not even care about what he said and still make him out to be a hero, but really he's an ignorant insolent child who whines when he doesn't get his way
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          • Author by crazyguy_co (January 19, 2010 6:09 am ET)
               
            Even more ironic here, is the mormons (which beck pretends to be) believe that abortion should be allowed in cases of rape, incest, or saving the mothers life... There are "purist" anti abortion people who protest them over this distinction.

            Beck should probably learn his own religion before trying to preach it.
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    • Author by ProgLib (January 19, 2010 4:58 am ET)
         
      Nice quote editing, Glenny.

      The law says that people are allowed to have that. And so, then, if you... you can have religious freedom, you probably shouldn't work in the emergency room.

      There is NOTHING I despise more than a repetitive and pathological liar... and every time this slime ball pulls that crap, I hate him even more.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (January 19, 2010 6:27 am ET)
         
      "Religious bigotry": Beck smears Coakley over her remarks on emergency room procedures and treatments

      It is funny that a man who makes almost 18 million dollars a year, will listen to what Ruppert Murdoch or Roger Ailes tells him and then open his corporate shill of a mouth. No wonder he won misinformationer of the year for 2009. He doing something smart, even if it is smears. Corporate properganda!
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    • Author by christopher howard (January 19, 2010 7:07 am ET)
         
      I'm an atheist who won't be getting a job as a priest anytime soon. According to Beck, is this fact detrimental to religious freedom?
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