King lets Hatch falsely claim GOP was shut out of health care reform in "an arrogance of power"

"Republicans have been locked out of health care debate from the very beginning..."

IF ONLY!

The real problem is that PROGRESSIVES were locked out of the health care debate- LITERALLY. Doctors who attempted to testify in support of Single Payer were ARRESTED last spring.

Before the public debate even started, the idea of health care "reform" was watered down to the barest minimum- and the Democrats who really wanted change negotiated from a posture of extreme weakness.

Every time any conservative Democrat or Republican raised objections, it was back to the drawing board. Changes were made- only to lead to more objections by more Conservatives, leading to more changes.

In the end, we get what is basically a stimulus package for the Health Care industry, which is like providing a morbidly obese person with daily hot fudge sundaes or tax cuts to billionaires- and it's STILL called "Socialism" and a "Government Takeover."

Maybe next time, we'll elect a real progressive who will actually FIGHT for REAL REFORM. We don't have that in the White House, which is why this vitally important reform was left in the hands of a Conservative Democrat from Montana right off the bat, and later trimmed and shaped to please people like Lieberman, Snowe, Nelson, etc....

Remember the names of those "blue dog" democrats this Fall. The Teabag party removed themselves from the healthcare debate long ago! Remember when Boehner held up his coversheet with all those blank pages? They claimed that they had a healthcare bill of their own. Why has the mainstream media not asked the Teabag party what their idea of healthcare reform is? Today's "journalism" is in a sorry state.

David Gregory did a much better job with Mitch McConnell on Meet the Press over the same thing. McConnell came off as a squirming politician and a member of the party of "no."

Off topic, but Peggy Noonan on Face the Nation- good lord, how can anyone listen to this woman for more than ten seconds? She enunciates every word as if she thinks someone off camera is carving it into a stone tablet. Her entire claim to fame is that she spent eight years filling Ronald Reagan's mouth with the most flowery, meaningless, light as air crap ever uttered by any President. She doesn't know anything about anything except being in love with the sound of her own voice, and she clearly isn't interested in learning. So why does she continue to show up on "news" shows?

The press is complicit in allowing this to continue.

Grassley & Snowe, just to name 2, were part of the looooooong drawn-out deliberations in the Senate committees this past summer & fall.

And then the rest of the GOP said they did not want to be a part of it.

But it was ARROGANCE of the Dems that locked them out?

This is so clearly dishonest I'm amazed that a bolt of lightining from the heavens doesn't strike down Hatch where he was sitting ...

King lets Hatch falsely claim GOP was shut out of health care reform in "an arrogance of power"

LMAO! Orrin Hatch is getting old. Demensia is setting in. We have to excuse him when he talks.

That's a good one. The Repugs were locked out. LMFAO.
These people live in a vacuum. Too bad for those who would choose to employ this completely nonsensical argument that we have ARCHIVES!
But I guess in order for their asinine arguments to be shut down someone in the media would need to challenge their factually challenged arguments. Thank the gods for MMFA.

The Republicans weren't locked out from the debate- they never showed up. BOO-HOO.

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Publikuns were locked out of the healthcare debate in only the sense that the dems did not let them control the "debate" But it is hard to debate on something when your only response is "No"

The GOP shut itself off the debate on anything Nov 4,2008 right about 7.59 PM. I don't know who the big PoohBah is in the GOP issuing the orders thru Ailes but I can guess. The guy was beat by Clinton in 1992 ? just a guess. And there is still Jeb Bush.

You (the GOP) had a chance to be in the Obama governance with Judd Gregg and the man heard voices and withdrew.

Does oren hatch have alzheimer's or is he just completely delusional? The senate finance committee would not have taken six months to write a bill if they were not trying as hard as they possibly could to work with republicans. I want to hear chuck grassley say that republicans (himself) have not had any input. LIES ALL LIES!!!! This interview SUCKKKKKSSSSSS! Call hatch out for once - he lied about five times in that less than 2 minutes clip.

This crap from the same Senator who said only a few weeks ago (paraphrasing here), "Of course we weren't concerned with providing funding for the bills we passed during the Republican controlled Congress. It wasn't a concern." This man deserves a medal for incompetence, instead he is put on CNN to forward his agenda, whatever that may be. I haven't heard ONE original thought from the Republicans (or conservatives, or tea-baggers, whatever they are calling themselves today) on how to solve the healthcare issue or how to restart the economy. It is just the same ol, same ol.

Hatch also said..."from the BEGINNING, I said we should start from scratch again"................??

John King should have gone to work on FOX after the Cheney interview.............AND his wife Donna BB...BBB....BBB....ash!!

Regardless of whether I disagree with MMFA on just about everything and regardless of whether I am more conservative or more liberal, I think of Hatch as the same scum that Lieberman and McCain are in. All three of them need to be voted out.

The Republicans were so shut out that they only got the chance to file 788 amendments, 161 of which made it into the bill.

Has anyone ever noticed how close Lindsay Graham is to John McCain's butt when they are walking together?

Wait..John King allowed a GOPer to lie on his show unchallenged? NO!! Let me see...didn't the same John King allow Cheney to lie on his show? He just sat there nodding as Cheney spewed lie after lie.

Pfft!

at this point, it's like the right has stopped trying altogether to be accurate about anything.

These Republicans are simply ASTOUNDING; with all the TV and print coverage of Democrats and Republicans' interactions and debates of Healthcare Reform it is inconceivable and incomprehensible they would still claim Democrats "shut" them out of the process.
The fact is Republicans have not participated constructively because they want the president to fail. Republicans either say no to Democrats proposals and policies, or they obstruct.
You would have to be blind, stupid or racist not to have notice that Republicans have not been shut out by Democrats when most of their devious deeds are done in the open.

Most of these Republicans are nothing but lying bastards....