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Shuster grills Breitbart about his relationship with O'Keefe

January 28, 2010 3:40 pm ET

From the 3 pm ET hour of the January 28 edition of MSNBC Live:

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Previously:

O'Keefe and his cohorts' record of dishonesty

James O'Keefe, the face of "conservative journalism"

Breitbart: "no knowledge" "or connection to" O'Keefe's alleged attempt to wiretap Landrieu's office

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    • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 3:45 pm ET)
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      Ooh, wouldn't it be hilarious if Andy got too hot for TV again?
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    • Author by dimes (January 28, 2010 3:51 pm ET)
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      Andrew is making himself look more like an idiot than usual with all that verbal diarrhea.
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    • Author by blueline99 (January 28, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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      Wow, that was painful to watch.... that guy is wound up pretty dam tight.

      I hope he makes his rouunds on all the shows because his head will explode on one of them soon.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 5:42 pm ET)
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        Wow, that was painful to watch...


        I just got a chance to watch the video, and I agree. As much of a d****bag as Breitbart is, I just don't have enough of a sadistic streak to enjoy seeing somebody fail that badly.

        The guy had one bullet, Schuster's use of the phrase "wire tap". The second that was retracted, Breitbart was completely unarmed. That didn't stop the logic-impaired ideologue from continuing with his rant.

        I'm glad Schuster closed by getting that "absolutely not !" from Mr. B. regarding his knowledge of the crime. Breitbart better hope he's covered his tracks.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 5:44 pm ET)
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          Looks like d***ebag has been added to the CyberNanny's no-no list. That's going to make it very difficult to comment on some of these right wing d0vchebags.
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          • Author by RKAllen (January 28, 2010 6:14 pm ET)
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            what's worse... you got to rewrite the whole thing. I have written some pretty long posts that I had to start over because I used the "d" word. Usually just give up when it happens.
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            • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 6:41 pm ET)
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              The cybernanny is unpredictable. I'm in the habit of copying longer posts before I hit save.
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    • Author by blueline99 (January 28, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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      And I forgot to mention...MSNBC got a $1 Billion in stimulus money... I mean, I have no evidence that they didn't but I'd find that hard to believe and you would have to show me how that is true.
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      • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 4:05 pm ET)
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        MSNBC didn't get any stimulus money. GE the parent organization of NBC recieved loan guarentees under TARP but did not receive any money from the government.
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        • Author by Sharpe (January 28, 2010 5:00 pm ET)
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          What a joke? This guy is supposed to be on answering about his employee being prosecuted for a federal crime and he is up there making himself look like a clown asking about the money GE got which owns NBC. Wall street got the bulk of the bailouts and they have their pockets in every corporation in this country. So essentially any large corporation in america could be said to have got the bailout but we all know that is ludicrous and only a buffoon like breitbart would have the gaul to say that in this kind of interview. DEFEND YOUR EMPLOYEE, stop making up crap - this isnt fox or some website. They dont tolerate obvious and odious propaganda to be called out without thinking about and refuting it. Breitbart is just another conservative lunatic who needs to learn to live in reality and not some alternate universe he has carved out for his mindless drones. I cant believe the people on Faux actually use breitbart as a source and pretend its credible - ive seen them do that on multiple programs. What person with a brain would believe the next words that come out of a pundits mouth if they say we received this information from breitbart.com?
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    • Author by AB-001 (January 28, 2010 3:58 pm ET)
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      Answer the question. Just answer the question. This isn't even a dodge or non-answer answer. It's a classic "I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue" childish retort
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      • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 4:06 pm ET)
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        or yell and scream until you stop asking me things I don't want to answer. hell he should have just put his fingers in his ears and started going "LA LA LA LA"
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    • Author by goesto11 (January 28, 2010 4:00 pm ET)
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      Wow, where did MMfA get hold of Breitbart's audition tape for his inevitable Fox News show?
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    • Author by melonone (January 28, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
         
      AB-I know you are but what am I. Or maybe,

      I'm rubber your glue whatever I say bounces off me and sticks to you.

      What an idiot!
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    • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
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      MSNBC, MSNBC, MSNBC, MSNBC!!!!!

      I love how Breitbart tries to say that the DOJ did not investigate ACORN. If there was a crime committed by ACORN, it probably would have been a state crime and not a federal one.

      THEY ARE CORRECT ALLEGATIONS!!!
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    • Author by MilitantMNMan (January 28, 2010 4:06 pm ET)
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      Wow! Breitbart and Ziegler need to become tag team wrestlers.
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    • Author by RKAllen (January 28, 2010 4:07 pm ET)
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      Ahhhhh... did anyone else get a whiff of that? Andrew Breitbart is sporting the new Conservative Journalist signature cologne... "Desperation" for Men!
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      • Author by jonesjax2374 (January 28, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
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        "you convicted him on twitter!" This is how stupid this country has become. First, just saying that; Second, believing that is possible.
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        • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
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          JuryofPeers@JamesOKeefeIII: guilty lol pwn3d
          JamesOKeefeIII@JuryofPeers: STFU
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          • Author by John Paradox (January 28, 2010 8:42 pm ET)
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            Dunno, but seems like a "jury of his peers" for O'Keefe would be:
            Antonio Fargas
            Snoop Dog

            (Both played Huggy Bear, in Starsky and Hutch,the series and movie, respectively).
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        • Author by Max Credits (January 28, 2010 4:35 pm ET)
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          Yeah, Andrew TweetFist is a real piece of work. By the way, here's the so-called ConvictionTweet:

          @JamesOKeefeIII a) you are not a journalist b) the truth is you intended to tap her phones c) it's a felony d) you will go to prison.

          All Shuster got wrong is the type of felony that O'Keefe himself admits to committing.

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          • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:31 pm ET)
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            Exactly. What Shuster tweeted was inappropriate for a journalist, but it does NOT negate the fact that O'Keefe broke the law and ADMITTED he di.
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        • Author by Sharpe (January 28, 2010 5:05 pm ET)
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          Not to mention, breitbart convicts people on his website on a daily basis. He will write up crap that doesn't have one shred of evidence and call its news. And then he wants to yell and scream when someone he is affiliated with who obviously was trying to tap the phone and is being tried for a federal crime is called out on a twitter page. What else was he doing with the phone? Helping landreiu check her messages? Its not rocket science, its not some bold leap of faith to say he was trying to wire tap the phone. And does he really think the just will be tainted because of a twitter post? The balls on that guy!
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      • Author by tikiman (January 30, 2010 8:35 am ET)
           
        Maybe Breibart should consolidate all his 'Big' so called news sites into something named "Desperate Journalists". At least desperate would be accurate.
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    • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
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      Ha, look at that mad-dog look he gets on his face the second Shuster addresses him.
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      • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (January 28, 2010 4:17 pm ET)
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        I saw Breitbart's routine coming from a mile away, but I stuck around just for the faces. Best part of the interview, in my opinion.
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        • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 4:21 pm ET)
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          Speaking of badly-needed retractions, I used to think Lindsay Graham was the worst-concealed gay Republican out there.
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    • Author by victhpooh (January 28, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
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      Sorry it seems as though Beritbart is the winner of this GRILLING
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      • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 4:23 pm ET)
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        Well, either way, at least he got away with his *snort* dignity.
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      • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 4:25 pm ET)
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        shouting louder and screaming MSNBC doesn't make someone win an argument. Of course Tea-Baggers and wingnuts think this is the way to win an argument.
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      • Author by RKAllen (January 28, 2010 4:31 pm ET)
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        [http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/6/8/128889640032558044.jpg]
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      • Author by Sharpe (January 28, 2010 5:08 pm ET)
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        It didnt help that he was wrong on almost everything he said and didnt actually answer a single question he was asked. I would say he lost but that would be putting it too lightly - he made himself look like a clown - luckly, he is a clown so at least he was honest about that.
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      • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
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        Seriously? He came across looking like a two year old child. I don't know, nor do I care, who this man is AND I do know, and do not care for David Shuster, but Shuster won this battle by default. Breitbart looked ridiculous.
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      • Author by mescal (January 28, 2010 8:57 pm ET)
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        Well, SOME wingnut had to give that argument a go, and you, vic, have apparently drawn the short straw. What you said was simply and predictably wishful teabagger thinking, and was completely disassociated from reality. We do appreciate the effort, though.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 29, 2010 3:05 am ET)
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          I'm sure he thought Sarah Palin won her VP debate too.

          There were several lost souls here who volunteered to say they believed that fairy tale.
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    • Author by ConJob (January 28, 2010 4:17 pm ET)
         
      FINALLY! A wingnut knows how guests on Faux News feels when one of their talking heads disagrees with them.
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    • Author by temphandle tearfully55timetable (January 28, 2010 4:19 pm ET)
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      How is Okeefe a filmaker? Or a journalist? He's an idealogue with a camera phone. Please stop calling him a filmaker
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    • Author by Publius39 (January 28, 2010 4:24 pm ET)
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      Breitbart is projecting on a level of that of Rushie. What a complete tool and narcissist.
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    • Author by marco21 (January 28, 2010 4:24 pm ET)
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      "Convicted him on Twitter."

      Andy is unintentionally hilarious.
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      • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 4:31 pm ET)
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        Hilarious is seeing you guys cackle and giggle about something a 25 year old kid did as if it's a major event. Hilarious is seeing MSNBC and MMFA devote as much time to this story as they have.

        Seriously people, it ain't that big a deal, and O'Keefe ain't that big a player. He's a young man who at the very least screwed up and got too cute after becoming somewhat of a celebrity. ACORN is big organization with federal funding and offices all over the country with a significant effect on elections that has been exposed for having a lot of corrupt employees.

        Big difference between the two stories.
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        • Author by pros2pros2940 (January 28, 2010 4:38 pm ET)
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          The only ones affecting elections are republicans who are under a 30 year court-ordered consent decree to stop voter supression efforts which continue to this day.

          There is zero evidence that ACORN has affected any election.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (January 28, 2010 4:53 pm ET)
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            Great point pros2pros2940 and one that isn't brought up enough.
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          • Author by Sharpe (January 28, 2010 5:16 pm ET)
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            Including I might add our last republican president who so many forget fired federal attorneys for not prosecuting more voter fraud convictions after they repeatedly told the white house, there were no actual voter frauds to prosecute. Bush or cheney or whoever had specifically tasked attorneys to maliciously find voter fraud among agencies that were catering to low income neighborhoods in an attempt to stop more democrats from getting registered to vote. So the only one who should be convicted of voter fraud is our last republican white house administration,
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        • Author by marco21 (January 28, 2010 4:38 pm ET)
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          Nope, not as funny as Andy Brietbart and wingnuttia defending O'Keefe.

          Sorry hoos.
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        • Author by RKAllen (January 28, 2010 4:45 pm ET)
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          Big difference between the two stories.
          I will be the first to admit that you are correct. There is quite a difference between the two stories.

          After evisceration in the court of public opinion, unconstitutional defunding by Congress, and independent investigations, ACORN to date has not been charged with a single crime related to the O'Keefe operation. Not one single criminal charge.

          On the other hand, we have a 25 year old MAN who has admitted to the conspiring and execution of using false and fradulent means in an attempt to gain access to Federal property with the intent of committing a felony. The felony being his attempt to disrupt the phone system of a United States Senator's office in order to illicit a response from her staff and capture it on hidden cameras and a cellular phone. The use of this footage would be later used in an attempt to discredit and embarass the Senator... perhaps at a critical moment during her election campaign.

          This is O'Keefe's new journalism that you are apparently supporting and encouraging. Manufactured reporting of artificially created incidents that are used as political chess pieces to embarass and damage democratically elected officials.

          You may want to say that this isn't that big of a deal, but Federal Law Enforcement officials apparently strongly disagree with you.
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          • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 5:32 pm ET)
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            First of all, RK, you say I am apparently supporting and encouraging him. I don't know how that is apparent to anyone but a rabid lefty posting on a lefty blog who has no concept of what is apparent and what is not, but I don't support what he did nor would I encourage him to do anything like that again. I said it's not that big a deal to justify the amount of time and effort MSNBC and MMFA and the rest of the nutroots are devoting to it. It is a big deal to Mr. O'Keefe. I don't know what he was thinking or what he was trying to do, but he screwed up, as young kids with sudden celebrity status are prone to do. It ain't 'Watergate junior', it's nothing of the sort. Much as you guys want it to be. It's about as big a deal as the stunt the Democratic Congressman's son did when he hacked in to Sarah Palin's email and posted it online. I don't remember the outrage here when that happened, nor did this place follow the story. Funny that, huh? But this, this is the next Watergate, about the fifteenth next Watergate we've heard libs fantasize about since the original one took place.

            And, oh RK, how many convictions has Halliburton and Dick Cheney had? How many has George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld had? War criminals all, right, according to the nutroots?
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            • Author by whatIthink (January 28, 2010 5:41 pm ET)
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              Uh, I wouldn't be bringing up Palins hacked emails if I were. That's just another giant example of the right wings hyporisy. When Palins emails were hacked, there was a huge reaction from the right, condemning anyone that had to do with it, the grievous invasion of privacy, etc. BUT, when the CRU emails were hacked, all of sudden, the right wing refers to them as "leaked" as if someone had allowed the release of the emails. The right wing acted as if they had the right to read and spread the stolen emails, even though the SAME THING HAPPENED TO PALINS EMAILS. Funny that, huh?
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            • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 5:52 pm ET)
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              hoosier in the '60s: "Seriously people, it's not that big a deal; the Mississippi cops just got a little too cute. The civil rights workers, on the other hand, were stirring up trouble among Negroes who were peaceful and quiet until they got that socialist nonsense put into their heads.
              Big difference between the two stories."
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            • Author by New Frontier (January 28, 2010 6:06 pm ET)
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              I said it's not that big a deal to justify the amount of time and effort MSNBC and MMFA and the rest of the nutroots are devoting to it.
              One wonders why you are spending time and effort here, in multiple posts, defending Breitbart and O'Keefe if the story and allegations are "no big deal"?

              On second thought, it's no wonder.
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              • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:39 pm ET)
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                Et tu, New Frontier? Why are you taking the time here asking me questions?
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                • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 8:25 pm ET)
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                  Sorry to butt in, hoser, but I believe you've just made the exact opposite point you were trying to make.
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                • Author by New Frontier (January 28, 2010 9:25 pm ET)
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                  Why are you taking the time here asking me questions?
                  What's the matter? Can't answer? Can't explain why you spend so much time and effort defending something that's no big deal? Don't you have "bigger deals" to spend time with?
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            • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 6:10 pm ET)
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              Sorry loosier, 25 is not a young kid, it is an adult. When I was 25 years old, I was a squad leader in charge of 8 soldiers. It may or may not be "watergate jr,"
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              • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:37 pm ET)
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                Ok, he's a young adult. And thank you for your service, by the way. Young adults do stupid things. Did any of your soldiers inside of 25 years old not do something really stupid at some point while in your charge? I'm saying people O'Keefe's age with newfound celebrity status tend to do stupid things and think they are immune from either getting caught or facing serious consequences and never fathom the idea what they are doing could be their downfall.
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                • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 6:47 pm ET)
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                  I would say that many people do this and not just 25 year old "kids" The point is that he is responsible for his actions.
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                • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:48 pm ET)
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                  He is a MAN. He didn't just do something "stupid," he committed a felony and has ADMITTED it. I guess the next time you hear about a 25 year old MAN robbing a bank or burglarizing a house, you will say he's just a kid doing something stupid, right?

                  Just because this 25 year old MAN happens to represent your alleged political ideology does not excuse him nor does it mean that he is a target for the OTHER SIDE. . . . {{{{{shudder}}}}} the LEFT!!!! He flat out broke the law, AGAIN. He should be punished.
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                  • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 7:04 pm ET)
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                    I never argued that he should be excused or that he shouldn't be punished, bintx; you just dishonestly described what I said. You are a dishonest poster here, and that is putting it mildly.

                    He's a young adult and he did something very wrong and very stupid. He is not a representative of the Republican party. If you want to be like Shuster and claim that he was funded or directed by someone much higher up, go right ahead. Your dishonesty rivals that of Shuster's already, so feel free.
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                    • Author by whatIthink (January 28, 2010 7:47 pm ET)
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                      "He is not a representative of the Republican party."

                      WHAT?!?!?!? He did not claim to be representative of Republicans, you did not claim he was representative of Republicans, bitnx did not claim he was representative of Republicans...THE REPUBLICANS CLAIMED HE WAS REPRESENTATIVE OF REPUBLICANS. Remember the resolution signed by 35 Republicans wanting to claim him a "hero"? Would they do that for someone who they don't think represents them and their ideals? Remember the right wing media going gaga over him? Would they do that if they did not feel he represented their right wing, republican ideals?

                      He might not have been funded or directed by someone else in this instance, but by praising and idolizing him for his past behaviour, they certainly enabled this one. And the story isn't necessarily O'Keefe himself, but the behaviour of the right wing which encouraged his behaviour and then their hypocritical distancing and disavowal of O'Keefe and his current behaviour.
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            • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:44 pm ET)
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              Are you privy to the investigation? If not, then you have no standing to claim that this is NOT a big deal. Also, quit calling this MAN a kid. People like you ENCOURAGE him to continue with his illegality.

              And, last time I checked, federal law was neither left nor right. When someone BREAKS said law, their alleged political ideology [which in this case is NOT conservative] is irrelevant.

              HE BROKE THE LAW. The reason it is a story is because HE'S BROKEN THE LAW before and the IDIOTS like Breitbart, Fox and hate talk radio made him a HERO. HE BROKE THE LAW. Let go of your ridiculous "us v. them" crap.
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        • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 4:46 pm ET)
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          the only effect ACORN has on elections is it registers people to vote.
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          • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2010 4:55 pm ET)
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            Oh yeah? Well I have photographic evidence that ACORN is up to...uh, something:
            [http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/11hwTT-yBnL._SL500_AA110_.jpg]
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        • Author by whatIthink (January 28, 2010 4:48 pm ET)
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          Wrong. It is a big deal because, despite you're assertion that O'Keefe is just a "young man" with "somewhat of a celebrity", he was heralded by Fox, Breitbart, and the right wing as the second coming of "real" journalism. Pundits and right wingerers, from Drudge to O'Reilly to Limbaugh to Malkin, et al, lauded and praised this guy. He was held up as an ideal for "investigative" journalism and the person that 35 Republicans wanted to pass a bill in Congress praising him as a "hero". The point isn't that some "kid" got caught, the point is that the shining example and idol held up by the right wing was caught allegedly in the middle of commiting a felony AND the right wings hasty retreat and quick, hypocritical, desire to distance themselves from their idol and their ominous silence about the story. Even one of the congressman who co-sponsored the resolution, when asked about O'Keefes arrest, pretended he had never heard of him.

          To try to downplay the story as just some "kid" who was caught doing something "naughty" is just as misleading and hypocritical as the rest of rght wings response.
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        • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 4:49 pm ET)
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          25 years old is not a "kid" he is an adult.
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        • Author by vysotsky (January 28, 2010 5:07 pm ET)
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          "Seriously people, it ain't that big a deal, and O'Keefe ain't that big a player."

          Actually he was named Fox News Sunday's Power Player of the Week just 17 weeks ago. If you feel he's not that big a player, perhaps you should take that up with Fox and Chris Wallace and correct them.
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          • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 5:36 pm ET)
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            Why am I supposed to do that any more than you are, vysotsky?

            What the hell does that mean, anyway? Fox is supposed to listen to me exactly why, in your opinion?
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            • Author by vysotsky (January 28, 2010 5:45 pm ET)
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              "Why am I supposed to do that any more than you are, vysotsky?"

              You took the initiative to alert MMFA to your opinion that O'Keefe "ain't that big a player", but MMFA wasn't the media organization that promoted his work. If you truly feel that way, your issue isn't with MMFA directly but with the organizations that originally touted him as a "Power Player".
              "What the hell does that mean, anyway? Fox is supposed to listen to me exactly why, in your opinion?"

              For the same reasons anyone would listen to you. If you don't think Fox should have elevated O'Keefe to the level of "Power Player" then you and MMFA agree and there's no reason you shouldn't take your criticism directly to Fox.
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              • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:32 pm ET)
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                Do you keep track of who Fox's Power Player of the Week is or something. Is there some kind of award for receiving the honor that you guys discuss whether or not that person deserved the award, like it was the Oscars or something. Do you guys debate who might've come in second or third, or just how close the voting was?

                Good God, listen to yourself. Fox names a Power Player of the Week- I give it about two seconds of thought when I happen to hear them say that and that's being generous.

                Seriously, dude, you need to get a life. Really seriously.
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                • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 6:36 pm ET)
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                  hoosier's day:
                  -Wake up.
                  -Repeatedly defend a smarmy wingnut-welfare beneficiary whose claim to fame is wearing a Party City costume when he gets caught doing something illegal.
                  -That second thing? Keep doing it for a while.
                  -Type the following with a straight face:
                  Seriously, dude, you need to get a life.

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                • Author by vysotsky (January 28, 2010 7:39 pm ET)
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                  "Do you keep track of who Fox's Power Player of the Week is or something."

                  I don't, but there is this internet thing that makes information available. It's handy for fact checking. To return to the issue at hand: you don't think O'Keefe is a big player, MMFA doesn't think that O'Keefe should be a big player, and Fox News actually elevated him to the level of "Power Player"... and yet you're taking issue with MMFA. Makes plenty of sense.

                  "Good God, listen to yourself. Fox names a Power Player of the Week- I give it about two seconds of thought when I happen to hear them say that and that's being generous. "

                  And in those two seconds, you apparently didn't seem to recognize that it was Fox, not MMFA, that considers O'Keefe a big player. You and MMFA agree that O'Keefe shouldn't have received the kind of fawning attention and heavy coverage that FNC gave him. You just don't seem to be aware that we agree yet.
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            • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 5:54 pm ET)
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              What the hell does that mean, anyway? Fox is supposed to listen to me exactly why, in your opinion?

              Are you suggesting Fox doesn't speak for REAL MURKA? Treason!
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              • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:27 pm ET)
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                I'm guessing you're not even O'Keefe's age, soze.
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                • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 6:29 pm ET)
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                  Ow. My feelings.
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                  • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
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                    I'm right, aren't I? You're still in college. No big deal. I was young and idealistically liberal when I was your age, too.
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                    • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 6:37 pm ET)
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                      I would rethink your comebacks, because "Oh YEAH? Well, I bet you're YOUNG!" is not the zinger you think it is.
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                    • Author by mescal (January 28, 2010 9:14 pm ET)
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                      And what happened to you, hoser? It must have been something awful. Just what was it that turned you from a "young and idealistic liberal" into the bitter, fact-impaired wingnut who graces our screens with his sputtering apologies for criminal right wingers?
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        • Author by Sharpe (January 28, 2010 5:11 pm ET)
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          its just so great because its such perfect irony - okeefe wanted acorn indicted on some bogus federal charge and ended up getting tried for a federal crime himself - such sweet, sweet irony. Acorn is actually performing a crucial service, o'keefe is a joke. Thank god acorn got the last laugh! Everyone sees him now for the criminal he always was.
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        • Author by blueline99 (January 28, 2010 5:12 pm ET)
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          ACORN received 10% of their funding from the Feds... well, they used to, before the fall out from O'Keefe put an end to that
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (January 28, 2010 8:10 pm ET)
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            Oooh, That's gotta hurt. Hardly.


            Only right wingers think 10% is a back breaker. Especially when they have to do it in taxes.
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        • Author by New Frontier (January 28, 2010 5:12 pm ET)
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          Hilarious is seeing you guys cackle and giggle about something a 25 year old kid did as if it's a major event
          Those FBI guys... always cackling and giggling...
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          • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 5:38 pm ET)
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            The FBI did their job; kudos to them. You guys think this is the centerpiece to the beginning of the Democratic Resurrection from the depths that it has fallen to.
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            • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 28, 2010 5:46 pm ET)
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              You may want to check the numbers in the House and Senate, hoosier. If the Democrats needs a resurrection, what the heck do the Republicans need? They have been trounced in back-to-back election cycles. Wake up.
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            • Author by New Frontier (January 28, 2010 5:49 pm ET)
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              You guys think this is the centerpiece to the beginning of the Democratic Resurrection from the depths
              Hmmmmm... where exactly did someone "think" that? Please enlighten everyone using your wingnut mind-reading powers. You know: the ones you used to conclude this was "no big deal".
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              • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:23 pm ET)
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                I said it's not as big a deal as you guys are pretending to make it out to be, New Frontiere. To O'Keefe and Mary Landrieau, it's a big deal. For Republican vs Democrat politics, it's not. And ACORN people are on Cloud 9 for some reason, as if this somehow vindicates them. Weird. It's like you guys think the same thing.
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                • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 6:31 pm ET)
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                  as if this somehow vindicates them.

                  Actually, it was the court ruling in their favor that took care of that.
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                • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:54 pm ET)
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                  Why are you bringing in Republican v. Democratic [that's the legal name of the political club, using the other made up one makes you look a bit churlish and small] politics. The story is about a MAN who has been lionized by Fox and hate talk radio as some sort of modern day Bernstein and Woodward. He's not. He broke the law when he made his very questionable and discredited videotapes of ACORN employees, and he has now been caught in the commission of a felony in a federal office building. The office that he was caught in was a Senator who is the Chair of the Senate Homeland Security Committee. She is privy to very important security information. D'ya see why this is IMPORTANT? Has nothing to do with your silly "us v. them" game.
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                • Author by New Frontier (January 28, 2010 9:22 pm ET)
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                  I said it's not as big a deal as you guys are pretending to make it out to be
                  Uhh, no. You said we think it's the "Centerpiece to the beginning of the Democratic Resurrection." You're just like Breitbart. Two of a kind.
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            • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 6:12 pm ET)
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              Do you honestly think its the Dems who have fallen into depths when a recent poll shows that 48% of American's blame the publikuns in the senate for how screwed up the country is?
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              • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:27 pm ET)
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                Yes. Even you guys have lost your cockiness the last few weeks; something no one on the right thought imaginable.

                In a way, I'm kinda glad this little episode has given you guys a glimmer of hope, though. I was starting to get worried you were going to sink back into the depression you all were in after the 2004 election.
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                • Author by skatscan5624 (January 28, 2010 8:13 pm ET)
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                  Are you talking about the Depression the WHOLE country experienced after 2004?
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        • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 5:16 pm ET)
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          Seriously people, it ain't that big a deal

          Actually, it's a felony. So it is, by definition, a big deal. Sorry.
          ACORN is big organization with federal funding

          You know WHY they've currently got federal funding? BECAUSE A JUDGE GOT IT RESTORED WHEN HE RULED THERE WAS NO ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. And by the way, if telling someone "This is how you would do something illegal" constitutes a crime, I look forward to the arrests of Laura Ingraham and G. Gordon Liddy.
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          • Author by RKAllen (January 28, 2010 5:26 pm ET)
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            BECAUSE A JUDGE GOT IT RESTORED WHEN HE RULED THERE WAS NO ILLEGAL ACTIVITY
            Actually a judge declared the defunding of ACORN by Congress as an unconstitutional bill of attainder. Has nothing to do with the guilt or innocence on the part of ACORN, but on the unconstitutional actions by Congress taken against the organization.
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        • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2010 5:27 pm ET)
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          Hilarious is seeing you guys pretend that there is "nothing to see here".

          Here's a thought; imagine the hysteria on Hate Radio if Michael Moore got caught trying to fudge with the phones in John McCain's office.

          Now, where were we?
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          • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 5:41 pm ET)
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            I guess you'd have to imagine O'Keefe sitting next to George Bush, Sr. in a booth at the next Republican Convention in order to even make the most obscure of comparisons, nerzog.

            You're not very good at this.

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            • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2010 5:58 pm ET)
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              Sorry... I forgot that Conservatives can't do analagous thinking. It's that whole Black and White thing.
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              • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:10 pm ET)
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                IN all seriousness, I couldn't envision anyone calling it Watergate Junior. But in fact, some of the things Moore has done in the past have been on the sleazy side of the journalistic spectrum and he has been less than totally honest if a myriad of portrayals of Republicans, yet he has been and continues to be hailed as a liberal hero by the nutroots and Democratic Congressman as well. To a much greater extent than Mr' O'Keefe. Actually, by a long shot.
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                • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 6:15 pm ET)
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                  Not all "nutroots" think of Moore as a hero, some of even dislike him, but the fact remains, he has never been charged with a crime.
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                • Author by Johaely (January 28, 2010 10:19 pm ET)
                     
                  The reason its called watergate jr. its because of the MO: implant hearing bugs in where Democrats were meeting and try to spy on them. I seems now that Breibart will be O'Keefe's Nixon.
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 28, 2010 8:35 pm ET)
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                Conservatives can't do analogous thinking


                I had to read the part about Bush Sr. more than once, trying to make sense of it. That was out in left field. Moore would be more guilty because he's more famous and respected ?
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            • Author by skatscan5624 (January 28, 2010 8:22 pm ET)
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              Obscure? The man had the highest grossing documentary of ALL time. All the money Moore made was from people actually going out and BUYING a ticket at the movie theater. TEN times the amount of people did that than flipped a TV channel to watch FOX News.
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              • Author by John Paradox (January 28, 2010 8:50 pm ET)
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                Personally, I preferred his TV Nation (which, IIRC, aired on FOX Entertainment) to his movies, and to the later TV show The Awful Truth. TVN included such goodies as having a black correspondent buy some white guys before a state (don't recall which) finally outlawed slavery.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 28, 2010 5:41 pm ET)
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          That is precious, hoosier. A 25 year old is a kid?! Wow. That must be some great parenting going on in your house.

          And, if ACORN is a corrupt, criminal enterprise because of something an employee did, then wouldn't Breitbart and his website company be the same thing? Try to think these ridiculous partisan ravings through before you post them. They are tragically, unintentionally hilarious.
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          • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 5:49 pm ET)
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            Why you make an argument and an admonishment like that using a supposition that you clearly know to be false, mikechuck? If you had a good argument, there'd be absolutely no reason to portray ACORN as only having one corrupt, criminal employee.

            Shame on you, there, dude.

            That's bad.

            If you watched any of the videos, or if you even watched the above videos, O'Keefe and Giles found people willing to aid and abet childhood prostitution and nearly every stop they made. A clear pattern. A pattern so clear that the House voted to defund them by a margin of 345-75, and the Senate did likewise by a vote of 85-11.

            That's an awful lot of Democrats in there, too, my none-too-bright friend.
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            • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 6:20 pm ET)
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              They were highly edited videos. Breitbart and O'Keefe have continually refused to release the original videos. that's bad.
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              • Author by dimes (January 28, 2010 8:35 pm ET)
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                Yes, unfortunately the raw videos have never been released. Why is that, I wonder? Surely they would want the world to see the corruption they're accusing ACORN employees of indulging in. But, no...
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                • Author by kalentros (January 30, 2010 4:12 am ET)
                     
                  I've always wondered what happened in the offices after they left. For some reason I've always felt that the people on those tapes knew that O'Keefe was full of it and were playing along then laughing with co-workers after he left.
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            • Author by skatscan5624 (January 28, 2010 8:23 pm ET)
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              viewer comprehension was never your strong suit was it?
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            • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 2:56 pm ET)
                 
              Well none of us have watched the videos. Not the unedited versions. And I have seen ScienceBuff call you out more than once to prove to him that anyone from ACORN was involved with anything illegal. And then you scurry away to the next thread without a reasonable response. I don't know how old ScienceBuff is, but perhaps he is also just a kid.
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          • Author by DellDolly (January 29, 2010 1:23 am ET)
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            This "kid" was told by the judge who let him out of jail that he had to go live at his parent's house as a condition of his release!
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        • Author by Marker (January 28, 2010 5:48 pm ET)
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          No, wrong again. Keep trying to deflect, just like your repug heroes do on a daily basis.
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          • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 5:50 pm ET)
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            Repug. That's hip and cool.

            You're not 25 too, are you?
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            • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 5:56 pm ET)
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              But 25-year-olds are incapable of doing anything wrong, ever. As long as they're Republicans.
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              • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:04 pm ET)
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                Never said that, not even remotely. If you have a counterpoint, you shouldn't feel the need to make a supposition that I never even came close to intimating, soze. Why you guys do crap like that, I'll never understand. It's infantile, really. 25 year olds are quite capable of doing something wrong. That's the point I made. They're prone to doing a lot of things wrong. Why he did what he did is baffling to everyone if he thought he could get away with it or didn't know the seriousness of what he was doing and only thought of how big it might be.

                O'Keefe was wrong and did something stupid. He bragged that he was about to come up with something really huge even before he did it- something kids do.
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                • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 6:12 pm ET)
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                  Wow, that's the exact opposite of your original post, which read, in essence, "O'Keefe's felony was just a youthful indiscretion, but ACORN doing something that was ruled to not involve any illegal activity is far more dangerous and scary because shut up."
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                • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:40 pm ET)
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                  He is NOT a kid . . . he is a 25 year old MAN. He quit being a "kid" a while ago. Quit making excuses for his illegal activity. That's what gave him the idea that he was important.
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            • Author by Marker (January 29, 2010 6:07 pm ET)
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              I don't know dude, wrong again about the age but it has nothing to do with your failing arguments.
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            • Author by kalentros (January 30, 2010 4:15 am ET)
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              About as hip and cool as calling people "dude" after 1992.

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        • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:39 pm ET)
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          Hoosier, O'Keefe was caught in the middle of and ADMITTED to the commission of a felony. I don't CARE how old the little creep is. People like Breitbart and you have made this 25 year old kid believe that it is OKAY to break the law as long as it supports whatever ridiculous partisan political belief you claim to hold [a clue: it isn't conservatism]. He is, most likely, going to jail. He should and so should his band of merry men.

          Defending him because you agree with his previous illegal and not very important "vidoe" expos. I don't know if you've heard the news, but ACORN was exonerated of any wrongdoing in O'Keefe's previous illegal adventure. He's being sued in two states for his illegal actions and from what I read yesterday, he can't find a lawyer to represent his sorry little punk rear. Encouraging him by calling him a "25 year old kid" is part of the problem. My 25 year old son is a MAN, not a kid. When he screws up, he accepts the fact that he is a MAN.
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          • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:59 pm ET)
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            Nothing you said pertains to anything I've said, bintx. Exactly where do I say what he did was OK? Exactly where does Breitbart say what he did was OK? I'm saying his guilt is not as big a deal as you guys are trying to make it out to be, not that it was ok.

            And what is it I've said here that you think is defending him? How is it encouraging him to say he's a young kid who did something stupid? Compare and contrast him to the adults who were completely on board with aiding and abetting a child prostitution ring if you would.
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            • Author by usappa00 (January 28, 2010 10:03 pm ET)
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              You are defending this guys credibility. He has no credibility. He could never produce a non edited video of Acorn, nor did he report the multiple times Acorn employees would not help him and instead called the police. He is not a journalist, he is a propagandist, who will do anything to manufacture a story that his friends and employers in the right wing media can use to attack the democrats, their allies, and Obama.

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        • Author by blk-in-alabam (January 28, 2010 6:58 pm ET)
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          25 year old kid-translation.....non-minority
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        • Author by usappa00 (January 28, 2010 9:56 pm ET)
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          25 year old kid? O'keefe is certainly old enough to know right from wrong. He broke a federal law, he should have to pay the price.
          O'keefe has been featured on Fox news several times and his videos have been shown over and over again to try to discredit an organization that helps the poor and disenfranchised. Now he is trying to rig an election by producing another fake news story to discredit a Democrat. Only a partisan hack like hoosier would defend this guy.
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        • Author by Reinhard (January 28, 2010 11:29 pm ET)
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          Committing a felony = "screwing up and getting cute." muhaaaaaaaaahaaaaaa
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        • Author by Conchobhar (January 30, 2010 12:48 pm ET)
             
          it ain't that big a deal, and O'Keefe ain't that big a player. He's a young man who at the very least screwed up and got too cute after becoming somewhat of a celebrity.

          And, for over a year, Republicans and most of the media dismissed Watergate as "just a third-rate burglary."

          Is this "Watergate Jr.?" Too soon to tell.
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (January 28, 2010 4:32 pm ET)
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      SAUDA ARABIA,RUSSIA,,follow the money trail.They havefiniancial interest in republican party media.This trail also leads to and through the big banks.If the USA is addicted to energy.Then the energy dope dealers are not happy the USA energy demand growing,and the USA looking for ways to buy less energy dope from them.This at the same time technology is loosening their grip on energy supply.
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (January 28, 2010 4:38 pm ET)
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        Breitbart is in it as deep as an oil well.The senator from Louisiana is USA's Ms Energy.This is one of those deals where y'all get the information y'all want,and we keep the rest.
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    • Author by carlh (January 28, 2010 4:50 pm ET)
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      This guy is a child. Whoah.
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    • Author by Sharpe (January 28, 2010 4:54 pm ET)
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      Breitbart is such a tool - the more people that see this the better. He looks like the complete joke that he is.
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (January 28, 2010 5:19 pm ET)
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        What in the world was that whole thing about?My IQ must have dropped ten points.Breibart agreed to an interview and shouted out his questioner.
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        • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 5:53 pm ET)
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          The exact kind of thing that if a liberal or Dem goes on Fox does the same thing, he becomes the video darling of the next three days on all the liberal vlogs, leftofnothing. Think Barney Frank and Bill O'Reilly.
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          • Author by soze169880 (January 28, 2010 5:59 pm ET)
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            Yes, that's right. The people Bill O'Reilly INTERVIEWS are the ones who start shouting and making idiots of themselves like Blartblart does here. Like, remember how Barney Frank yelled "WE'LL DO IT LIIIIIIIIVE!" and started slamming his jacket down on the desk? I feel awful for anyone who admires someone who behaves like that.
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            • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:06 pm ET)
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              Just who is it that you think admires O'Reilly for doing that, soze. Another baseless supposition you make- you're on quite a roll today.
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          • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:56 pm ET)
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            Why is everything with you part of the "us v. them" game? Try thinking outside of that silly box for a change. Try thinking about your country first for a change.
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            • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 7:55 pm ET)
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              Read the title of this post, bintx. Whys is it "Shuster grills Breitbart about his relationship with O'Keefe" and why do you not have a problem with "us vs. them" games when it comes from a far-left blogger? Do you really think that Shuster grilled Breitbart, or was it just two guys knowing the other's game and them both looking like kids who hate each other? If you think Shuster really did grill him, then you are completely brainwashed.
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          • Author by kalentros (January 30, 2010 4:28 am ET)
               
            When do they ever have a chance to even answer? Anytime a liberal is on Fox they're shouted over as soon as they start to answer a question.

            It's the typical right wing tactic. Scream and shout...start before the question is even out of the interviewer's mouth...talk over anyone else who tries to offer a dissenting opinion...and then cry "Are you going to let me talk?" when you've gone off on monologues that have nothing to do with the original point.
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    • Author by clearstate (January 28, 2010 4:57 pm ET)
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      Here's Breitbart's response posted on his useless rag.

      http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/28/how-david-shuster-lied-to-get-me-to-appear-on-msnbc/

      What a tool...
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    • Author by hugacat7374 (January 28, 2010 5:04 pm ET)
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      I've never really heard of or know anything about this guy but what a tool. And, yes, I'm basing that opinion on this 'interview' alone.
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    • Author by Porkeater (January 28, 2010 5:12 pm ET)
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      He is from the Liz Cheney School of TV Appearances. Their chief methodology: talk louder, talk more, be ruder, and you will win. Such folk should never be allowed to appear.
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    • Author by felixkrull (January 28, 2010 5:14 pm ET)
         
      I don't know where the appropriate place to put this is, but I just have one HUGE suggestion for media matters. PLEASE get rid of that ridiculous theme music at the end of each clip. I'm a fan of M.M. but this kind of spooky-conspiracy-hipster jingle only feeds the fodder of the conservatives by lumping us into the looney conspiracy finger pointer category!! Please make it stop!!
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    • Author by blueline99 (January 28, 2010 5:26 pm ET)
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      Someone needs to post a transcript of this interview...

      "you convicted him on twitter"

      "how much money does MSNBC get from Obama's stimulus package, I think it was in the billions, what does that have to that you falsely portrayed James O'Keefe as a felon"

      "are you retracting Watergate Jr"


      I'm not sure what Breibart does for a living or what his skills are, but communication is definitely not one of them.

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      • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 5:43 pm ET)
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        Sadly, neither is it one of David Shuster's. Breitbart was the clear winner in this one, not that he had a big challenge in front of him.
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        • Author by mwjarv (January 28, 2010 5:45 pm ET)
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          So why did you wait to post down here instead of responding to all of the critique to your earlier post? I am just curious.
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          • Author by mwjarv (January 28, 2010 5:47 pm ET)
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            I withdraw that, my computer had not refreshed the chain by the time I posted so I did not see your comments. I will now re-read.
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          • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 5:54 pm ET)
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            Taking them as I see them, mwjary. Which one in particular would you like me to obliterate?
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        • Author by raddave43 (January 28, 2010 6:05 pm ET)
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          Breitbart might have won if this was a tea-bag shouting points contest. He kept defending O'Keefe saying that the media had it wrong or nothing has been proven yet. Then started screaming baseless allegations about ACORN and how the D.O.J. refuses to investigate them, even though any law ACORN might have commited would have been at a state level and not federal.
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        • Author by blueline99 (January 28, 2010 6:20 pm ET)
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          How is he the clear winner? Because he got Shuster to withdraw his "wiretapping" comment to replace with "phone tampering", which is the Federal crime that they are charged with.

          Is he the clear winner because he lied and and spouted that MSNBC received billions of dollars in the stimulus package as a response to the question "how much money do you pay O'Keefe"

          Was it the "you convicted him on Twitter" comment that won him the debate... please... the reason I want the transcript because I am sure when you read his comments (sans screaming) the true brilliance of his idiocy will shine through.
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        • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:58 pm ET)
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          Seriously? I don't know nor do I care who Breitbart is, never heard of him outside of this site, and I don't CARE for Shuster AT ALL. Breitbart got his butt handed to him. He came across looking like a two year old child. Out screaming the interviewer does not a win make.
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          • Author by marco21 (January 28, 2010 7:43 pm ET)
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            Should look up Andy's appearance on Bill Maher's show last year. If you think he looks like a whiny fool in this clip, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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        • Author by benjr (January 28, 2010 7:01 pm ET)
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          I think you watched a different interview than I did. Breitbart seemed argumentative from the start, had no reasonable answers, and either lied about the facts (MSNBC got "billions" from the stimulus package) or was ignorant of them. All in all a dismal performance by Breitbart.
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    • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 6:29 pm ET)
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      Wow, that man sounds like a two year old child. Seriously, I've really never heard of Breitbart except here, but I cannot BELIEVE anyone would consider this man is credible at all.

      The only thing that Shuster, whose tweet was completely inappropriate for a journalist, said that was incorrect was that O'Keefe was there to wiretap.
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    • Author by ProgLib (January 28, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
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      I was getting a major headache about halfway through that interview/debate. It was like John Zeigler all over again. Breitbart is a menace to society... plain and simple. Shuster nailed him and he just couldn't handle it.

      Meanwhile, concerning David Shuster's supposedly controversial tweet to O'Keefe, InsideCableNews claims Shuster is "going too far" because he isn't an opinion anchor like Keith Olbermann and others like that.

      Does anybody see a problem with Mr. Shuster's decision to directly tweet O'Keefe and criticize him like he did? Maybe not the smartest thing to do, but there is nothing unethical about it. Even MSNBC reprimanded him on it.

      What do you guys think?
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      • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 6:51 pm ET)
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        Oh yes there is something unethical about those tweets. You need to read this:

        How David Shuster Lied to Get Me to Appear on MSNBC

        As I am signing off here, I have just been informed that MSNBC has admonished Shuster for “inappropriate” twitter comments. But what about Shuster’s obvious lie that he has no “horse in this race,” a lie he used to try to get me into the Obama-stimulus-infused, bias-laden MSNBC eco-system? Could there be a greater admission of a journalist’s political investment in a storyline than divining (”the truth is, you intended to tap her phones”) a subject guilty of a crime he has not even been accused of? Remember, Shuster has sold out Olbermann and Maddow as the ideologues in the newsroom. If Shuster is their idea of journalistic neutrality, I can continue to sleep well acting as a journalist who openly admits that he comes to the table with a unique political perspective.



        Shuster is a smarmy, disingenuous, lying, piece of crap who isn't all that different from O'Keefe in the category of being someone with sudden celebrity who does dumb things. He lied to Breitbart to get him on camera so he could embarrass him, all the while pretending impartiality and claiming to have no horse in the race, when he was impassioned about this as he was Plamegate- for which he quite falsely claimed Karl Rove was going to be indicted.

        I'm embarrassed to be from the same state as this d-bag.
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        • Author by bintx (January 28, 2010 7:02 pm ET)
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          I don't care for Shuster at all and found his twitter post completely inappropriate for a journalist, but if you think I'm going to believe anything that horrible little twerp Breitbart says on his blog . . . nope. He has lied about the ACORN crap over and over again. Also, why is he whining about being embarrassed? That's his stock and trade, embarrassing those folks he believes represent the OTHER SIDE!!!!!!

          Get over your us v. them game. It's silly and destructive for our country.

          O'Keefe and his gang of three were caught in the commission of a felony. They should all be punished as the MEN they are. None of them are "kids." They are malicious TWERPS that you and your heroes on FOX and hate talk radio have elevated to HEROES. It's disgusting.
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          • Author by hoosier (January 28, 2010 7:25 pm ET)
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            bintx, please stop with the arrogance and the pretending you're even somewhat approaching objective about this. You are seriously one of the most dishonest posters who writes their thoughts here. You accuse me of condoning what O'Keefe did, and I never did, I'm just saying this isn't the big, wide-ranging, all-encompassing, Republican-indicting deal you all are trying to make it out to be and hoping will turn out to be. It just isn't. Accusing me of condoning and encouraging O'Keefe to continue his wrongdoing would be the same thing as if I claimed you did the same thing to the ACORN employees who aided and abetting child prostitution. Your defense of ACORN doesn't mean you're like those employees, does it, bitnx. You don't hope they continue trying to help those who run prostitution rings, do you? I mean, you seem to be defending ACORN.

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            • Author by vysotsky (January 28, 2010 7:54 pm ET)
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              "You accuse me of condoning what O'Keefe did, and I never did, I'm just saying this isn't the big, wide-ranging, all-encompassing, Republican-indicting deal you all are trying to make it out to be and hoping will turn out to be."

              Exactly who here claimed that it's a "big, wide-ranging, all-encompassing, Republican-indicting deal"?
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 3:01 pm ET)
                   
                Hoosier did when he erected a strawman. He also placed the idea that O'Keefe was a 25 year old "kid" into the debate only to pretend like that did not mean anything. A completely dishonest defense of an indefensible act on the part of Breitbart's employee. If O'Keefe worked for ACORN and was caught doing any such thing, hoosier would be going on and on about how this lowly employee has caused the organization to be shut down and defunded. Partisan hypocrite.
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            • Author by ProgLib (January 28, 2010 8:26 pm ET)
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              It just isn't.


              So that's your reason? Because "It just isn't" I should believe you? Give me, and the rest of us, a reason for why it isn't. We're not going to take your word for it, especially when you try and get us to go to a disgusting website like bigjournalism.com with the same scummy jerkoff, Breitbart, that is claiming ZERO responsibility for this whole crime, even though he took O'Keefe under his wing and paraded him all over the right-wing media trying to make him into a big star.
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            • Author by skatscan5624 (January 28, 2010 8:28 pm ET)
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              You condoned what he did in regards to ACORN.
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            • Author by New Frontier (January 28, 2010 9:19 pm ET)
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              You are seriously one of the most dishonest posters
              You were looking in the mirror when you wrote that. It's the only explanation.
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            • Author by rikntx (January 29, 2010 9:38 pm ET)
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              "I'm just saying this isn't the big, wide-ranging, all-encompassing, Republican-indicting deal you all are trying to make it out to be and hoping will turn out to be."

              No one has said any such thing. It is simply another example of Republican Party business as usual. By poo-pooing the commission of a felony as "something a 25 year old kid did (as if it's a major event)", you do seem to condone the event.

              This does not seem to be a one time thing for Mr. O'Keefe either. The footage he shot of two ACORN employees in Maryland would seem to be in violation of two sections (10-402 & 10-410) of the state's Courts and Judicial Proceedings Code that requires "two party consent to all electronic surveillance".

              According to Fox News Legal Analyst (note that's FOX NEWS legal analyst), Arthur Aidala, the lawsuit filed by Katherine Conway-Russell "absolutely" has merit because Mr. O'Keefe and Ms. Giles violated Pennsylvania law by recording Mrs. Conway-Russell without her knowledge. Mr. Aidala also said, "...that because the filmmakers were there ostensibly to get financial advice, ACORN staff had a reasonable expectation of privacy that the filmmakers violated."

              If you have proof (and Andrew Breitbart does not constitute proof) that ACORN employees aided and abetted child prostitution, I would like to see it for myself.

              I'm quite sure you are a fairly resonable human but you cannot suspend critical thinking just because doing so would fail to support which ever side of the political fence you happen to be on.

              As for the video (yea, back on topic) I seriously do not know how anyone can conclude Shuster or Breitbart "won". All I heard was each one talking over the other (a fairly recent interview tactic that you'll find on talk shows, news programs, anywhere interviews take place these days, that I absolutely hate) with the occasional audible accusation. It gave me a headache.
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          • Author by hoosier (January 29, 2010 6:37 am ET)
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            bintx, wake up and smell the coffee. Breitbart posted the memo Shuster sent him asking him for the interview on his website. Go back to the link I provided and read it yourself. Shuster wrote that he had no horse in the race, and he lied. He's just as partisan, if not more so, than Breitbart. So MMFA delights in showing a video of two partisans going after each other and declares one of them the winner based only on their own partisanship. You guys would believe Shuster when he claims he's an objective news reporter and you believe MMFA's claims as only wanting to dispel conservative misinformation.

            If Shuster did not write that memo that Breitbart posted on his website, then Shuster would've already denied having written by now- you can bet your bottom dollar on that. He could destroy Breitbart if Breitbart had falsely attributed Shuster to a memo he did not write as having come from him when it didn't.

            You're the one with the us vs. them mentality, my friend.
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            • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 3:03 pm ET)
                 
              Destroy Breitbart? That is hilarious. Who even knows who this character is? But, if you are looking for someone to destroy his credibility, I think O'Keefe just did that.
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        • Author by marco21 (January 28, 2010 7:46 pm ET)
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          Someone should tell Andy that being wingnut isn't a unique political perspective. There's lots of those around.
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        • Author by ProgLib (January 28, 2010 8:31 pm ET)
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          "the Obama-stimulus-infused, bias-laden MSNBC eco-system"


          What? Please explain, Bret. Start your conspiracy theories.

          I can continue to sleep well acting as a journalist who openly admits that he comes to the table with a unique political perspective.


          Yes exactly, Bret, you do act as a journalist... stop pretending like you are one. Kind of like your pale, lanky, night in-shining armor (soon to be charged with a federal crime) punk buddy is.
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        • Author by dimes (January 28, 2010 8:39 pm ET)
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          How do you know Shuster lied to Breitbart? Because he said so? How do you know Breitbart isn't lying?
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        • Author by MidnightWriter (January 28, 2010 8:50 pm ET)
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          It seems to me that Breitbart embarrassed himself and that he continued to do so with this save face rant of a blog. With his writing and his television appearance he continues to show he's a shoot off his mouth first and think about it later kind of guy.

          Riddle me this--since Breitbart put so much effort into explaining how Shuster is such a dishonorable, unethical, untrustworthy kind of guy, why, oh why did Andy agree to the interview?

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          • Author by dimes (January 28, 2010 9:10 pm ET)
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            Indeed, although you are perhaps being overgenerous in referring to that spew as an "interview". Clearly, Breitbart went into that embarrassing episode with an agenda he was just dyin' to get out. Frankly, I was waiting for him to pop a vein.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (January 28, 2010 8:12 pm ET)
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      Shuster grills Breitbart about his relationship with O'Keefe

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    • Author by Midnight Kevin (January 29, 2010 1:16 am ET)
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      Retract "Watergate Jr."? Maybe He should retract Fistgate on his Big Government...
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    • Author by sheerinsanity (January 29, 2010 10:21 am ET)
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      Careful Shuster, or they'll tap your phones too.
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