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Responding to Palin-Emanuel controversy, Limbaugh says liberals who complained about health care reform "are retards"

February 03, 2010 2:40 pm ET

From the February 3 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

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    • Author by marco21 (February 03, 2010 2:43 pm ET)
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      I am sure Sarah will go after him viciously.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (February 03, 2010 2:45 pm ET)
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        Like a mother pig with lipstick... ;>)
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      • Author by bintx (February 03, 2010 3:01 pm ET)
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        She already has . . . she is demanding that he be fired. 'Course, she was really hoping to be Vice President after telling bald-faced lies about her "opponent."
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (February 03, 2010 4:33 pm ET)
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          The funny thing about this whole Palin vs. Rahm FB post is that Rahm had apologized before this drivel was posted on FB. More evidence that Palin does not write her FB posts and doesn't have a clue about what has/has not occurred in these cooked-up controversies that she and her minions engineer. I believe Levi Johnson when he said that when she would come home from work she would ask, "Where is my retarded baby?"
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      • Author by rms (February 03, 2010 3:05 pm ET)
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        She will forgive him. It's in the rulebook.

        Lynne Cheney, you'll recall, went ballistic on John Kerry back in 2004 when he made some comments about her lesbian daughter ("This is not a good man," she said [of Kerry]. "Of course, I am speaking as a mom, and a pretty indignant mom. This is not a good man. What a cheap and tawdry political trick."). Kerry went out of his way to show respect for Mary Cheney (I think that is her name), but mama flipped out. Of course, during the same year Alan Keyes called Mary a "hedonist," and the Cheney family simply called the remarks "inappropriate."

        /I know you were being facetious :-)
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (February 03, 2010 4:06 pm ET)
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        He has so far refrained from suing the "N" word, but he's gone and used the "R" word.

        Putting aside Palin's Down's syndrome child, this is just one of those words that is no longer appropriate in public discourse, or even in polite company.

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        My son says some inappropriate things from time to time. But he's eight years old and Autistic. What's Limbaugh excuse?
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (February 03, 2010 2:44 pm ET)
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      Go to any right wing internet forum and count the number of times they refer to liberals as LIBTARDS. Does that mean what I think it does...that liberals are "retards? Where is Sister Sarah's indignation?
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      • Author by jeter2 (February 03, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
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        Irony,

        Like folks here so often point out, posters engaging in namecalling isn't the same as when government officials, elected or not, or someone in the media does it.

        So no indignation is necessary from Palin or anyone else.

        Emanuel was wrong. Limbaugh is just being a jerk.

        Now as to whether or not you Libs are retards/libtards? Heck I don't think so. You guys are just moonbats mostly ;-)
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (February 03, 2010 3:15 pm ET)
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          Presumably, Sarah's disgust with Rahm Emanuel's use of the word "retard" will not garner much support among her base if they, themselves, use the insult "libtard" to describe liberals.

          And I disagree that from Sarah Palin's perspective there should be a different standard applied to her supporters...who are not elected officials. If the insult "retard" is offensive to her then she should be offended by anyone who uses it...particularly her right wing internet followers who use the term "libtard".
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          • Author by jeter2 (February 03, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
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            Irony,

            Maybe Palin should scold folks at wingnut websites...but she can't demand the site "fire" a bunch of anonymous posters, can she? Anymore than Republicans can "fire" anyone here. They can fuss about what Dems write about them here, but it ain't gonna mean much or change a thing.

            And no matter how you look at it...government officials, elected representatives & the media should be held to a different standard than to folks posting on a political forum.

            Or so I've read here on a regular basis.

            Palin shouldn't even be sticking her nose into this controversy. But I do think Emanuel, should be expected to be treated differently than just some forum poster.
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            • Author by IRONY 101 (February 03, 2010 4:58 pm ET)
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              Palin shouldn't even be sticking her nose into this controversy.

              Ahaaa...bingo!

              Palin isn't sticking her nose into a controversy...she's creating a controversy.
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              • Author by jeter2 (February 03, 2010 5:29 pm ET)
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                Irony,

                Actually after some thought, I'm thinking Palin had as much right as any pundit [and that's what she is at this time] to speak up. Even to the point of suggesting he be ousted.

                It was Emanuel that caused this controversy the moment his insensitive choice of the word "retards" was reported.
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                • Author by soze169880 (February 03, 2010 5:36 pm ET)
                     
                  Actually, I'm thinking Palin had significantly less right than any pundit. Unless, of course, it doesn't bother her to be perceived as a grotesque hypocrite. Which it clearly doesn't.
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                • Author by open_mind (February 03, 2010 5:41 pm ET)
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                  I think you're right, Jeter. Rahm did create the controversy here. He should apologize. I think asking for his resignation over it is a bit much. It should be used as a "teachable moment" as they call it.

                  I have used this term in the past quite recklessly until I inadvertantly said it in front of a friend who has a mentally handicapped sibling. I felt really bad when my wife told me about the situation and I do not use the term any more. I don't think anyone should be making excuses for Rahm. Rahm is smart enough to realize he made a mistake here. There is no hope for Rush. He is just an idiot, but I think everybody knows that by now.
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                  • Author by soze169880 (February 03, 2010 5:45 pm ET)
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                    I'm no fan of Rahm, but he did apologize, very promptly. And honestly, if someone with Rahm's reputation brings himself to apologize in the first place, he probably means it.
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                  • Author by jeter2 (February 03, 2010 7:03 pm ET)
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                    Hey Open_Mind,

                    I think most of us have used the term "retard" at sometime in our lives, but have dropped it because it is insensitive. I try not to even say that something is retarded...which I was guilty of uttering quite often in the past.

                    While I think Palin can certainly call for Emanuel's removal, I also don't think it's necessary in this case. But of course that never stops the angry far right mob from jumping on stuff like this..

                    Then again I don't think Rush should be fired either, as many left-wing pundits etc have suggested or called for. Though it would be nice if he'd apologize now & then. Ok, not likely, eh? ;-)
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          • Author by Übermensch (February 03, 2010 4:25 pm ET)
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            If the insult "retard" is offensive to her then she should be offended by anyone who uses it...particularly her right wing internet followers who use the term "libtard".

            I second this.



            It also seems that "retarded" was used as a verb. Lets consult the Dictionary:

            retard
            verb
            delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment : his progress was retarded by his limp.

            noun:
            offensive
            a mentally handicapped person (often used as a general term of abuse).


            Not condoning this behavior...but lets call it like it is.


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            • Author by jeter2 (February 03, 2010 5:31 pm ET)
                 
              And I'm sure if a Republican had used the word "retards", you'd feel the same? Just wondering...

              Maybe you would. But others here would be up in arms. And that's a fact.
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              • Author by open_mind (February 03, 2010 5:44 pm ET)
                   
                I don't know if you can say a speculative notion is a "fact", but I think it is very likely indeed.

                ; )
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                • Author by jeter2 (February 03, 2010 7:07 pm ET)
                     
                  I'd say it's a darn good bet...& I'd definitely put money on it ;-)

                  Hell you & I have been around here long enough to be able to call things pretty accurately.
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              • Author by Übermensch (February 03, 2010 7:05 pm ET)
                   
                Who is to say I feel anything for Mr. Emanuel?

                I used a standard way of defining and looking at the context of Mr. Emanuel's "Fuc*ing Retarded" comment

                Palin blasted Emanuel for calling an idea from some of President Obama's supporters "f---ing retarded" during an August meeting with liberal groups and White House aides. (source emphasis mine)


                To which also can be applied to Mr. Limbaugh, who misuded the term without the regards for those that have and know someone with a developmental disability (and even those that just do not like the slang.


                You can tell me how I live my life all you want. It doesn't change the fact that there are differences between the context and the way the words were used.

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      • Author by retiredinsf (February 06, 2010 8:26 am ET)
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        Irony: "Go to any right wing internet forum and count the number of times they refer to liberals as LIBTARDS. Does that mean what I think it does...that liberals are "retards? Where is Sister Sarah's indignation? "

        The "irony" is many on this Board have called me 'retardedinsf'. You people are so hypocritical.
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    • Author by Pteropod (February 03, 2010 2:50 pm ET)
         
      Considering his demonstrable lack of cognitive skills, it's a little surprising that Limbaugh, himself, didn't demand an apology from Emanuel for "disparaging his people".
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    • Author by lede39571545 (February 03, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
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      Sarah's son-in-law, her grandson's father said she (Sarah) called her own baby, "my little retarded one". But again, who believes anything they say....they all have been taught to lie by Sarah.
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    • Author by txthinker (February 03, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
         
      I heard part of his program today, and it seemed like Rush was using the "R" word as many times as he could, as if Rahm Emmanuel's use of it made it OK for RUSH to use it.

      I can only imagine what Rush will say if someone famous blurts out the "N" word. He'll probably use that word 40 or 50 times an hour to describe President Obama......
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    • Author by mjh (February 03, 2010 3:11 pm ET)
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      OK, let's recap:

      Sarah Palin

      - quit midway through her ONLY executive office experience
      - didn't say SQUAT when people shouted "kill him!" in reference to Obama at her political rallies
      - yet apparently has thin enough skin that she demanded a public apology from David Letterman and is now calling for the WHCOS's resignation

      . . . and people SERIOUSLY want this woman to be president??!!

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    • Author by congero6189599 (February 03, 2010 3:26 pm ET)
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      But...but Levi said that she called her own son the retarded baby or something of the sort didn't he? Anyway the lenghts this women goes to placing her family in the frey at every opportunity. What a tramp.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (February 03, 2010 3:34 pm ET)
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      "There's going to be a retards summit at the White House..."

      Ah Lardbum, did you and Becky finally get invited over for cocktails?

      As to Simple Sarah's demand that Rahm be fired...okay, I can stop laughing now. She uses that poor kid more than a teenage boy uses his hand, she has no right to complain or demand anything. I do hope that Trigg never understands how he was exploited as a babe in arms. It is shameful.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (February 03, 2010 3:43 pm ET)
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        "...She uses that poor kid more than a teenage boy uses his hand,..."epk

        Hahaha, I can't stop laughing. Good one! :-)
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      • Author by mjh (February 03, 2010 3:47 pm ET)
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        As to Simple Sarah's demand that Rahm be fired...okay, I can stop laughing now. She uses that poor kid more than a teenage boy uses his hand, she has no right to complain or demand anything."


        epk, I don't what's funnier: an unemployed hockey mom who got STOMPED in her last political race demanding that a WH staffer be fired -- or people actually taking her seriously . . .

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        • Author by epkklk851 (February 03, 2010 3:54 pm ET)
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          I know, crazy, isn't it. Check out the poll on Daily Kos. A majority of nearly 2000 self-identified Republicans rated her more qualified to be President than Obama! Only 14% said no, she wasn't!

          http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2010/1/31/US/437
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          • Author by mjh (February 03, 2010 4:07 pm ET)
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            Well, those were "self-identified" Republicans, right?

            There can't be very many of those left . . .
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            • Author by epkklk851 (February 03, 2010 4:11 pm ET)
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              True, but it is still millions of people, and that kind of bat guano craziness goes a long way.
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    • Author by Publius39 (February 03, 2010 4:11 pm ET)
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      It's funny how sister Sarah always complains about how people talk about her family and yet she always uses her son's condition in attacks on others when its convenience for her.
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    • Author by liberalXtian (February 03, 2010 4:39 pm ET)
         
      In criticizing Emanuel, Rush was using the same slur as Emanuel. It was not in quoting Mr. Emanuel that he used the word "retard", but rather in referring to those he says were "slurred". The accepted term is Developmentally Disabled, but obviously he cares little about those with developmental disabilities, but rather will use them to score political points. Mr. Emanuel's comment was crude and inexcusable, but we have all heard worse. He has apologized and let the matter rest.
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    • Author by MaineiacMan (February 03, 2010 4:43 pm ET)
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      What! He's just quoting a liberal!

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      • Author by soze169880 (February 03, 2010 5:33 pm ET)
           
        If you think Rahm Emanuel is a liberal, you know even less about liberalism than Glenn Beck knows about progressivism, or, for that matter, what Rush knows about marriages.
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    • Author by coldteablues19577325 (February 03, 2010 7:03 pm ET)
         
      Go to any college campus and listen to the students there. I hear the following daily:

      "You're retarded."
      "You're so retarded."
      or even,
      "You retarded."

      I had to reprimand a Resident Assistant who would often blurt it out loud to her friends and the residents of her wing. It took her quite a while to teach herself NOT to use such language. She finally thanked me once she 'got' it saying this, "As an African-American woman, I should have understood just how offensive of a term it is."
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    • Author by Refresh (February 03, 2010 8:41 pm ET)
         
      Oh, he's so mafioso.

      Accused of being a sexist, announce that he enjoys watching members of the womens movements butts. Someone gets taken to task for using "retards" as a slur, come right out and use "retards" as a slur. Tough guy. Untouchable. Say what I want, when I want, and you can't do a damn thing about it.

      Keep pushing it. Please take the Imus route, pretty please.
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    • Author by OldHill (February 03, 2010 11:09 pm ET)
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      I don't get the point! you compare a radio show host to the obama's chief of staff! really makes no sense
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    • Author by goshzilla (February 04, 2010 9:03 pm ET)
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      Context matters. Though of course Limbaugh doesn't even know the meaning of the word "context," seeing how he failed college and all.

      Like for instance when Tropic Thunder used retard, it was about how Hollywood portrays and subsequently rewards itself for using mentally retarded people.

      Getting offended by the word, is idiotic, it's the use that matters. Calling something retarded in the context of describing something someone hates, is the offensive use. It has the double implication that when someone hates a person, thing or idea, that it's okay to lump them into a group that has mental retardation. In turn, making the group of mentally retarded people equally despised. That's why using it in everyday discourse turns it into something offensive.

      This certainly is the reason why when Rush uses it, that it's offensive.
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    • Author by ivans (February 04, 2010 11:40 pm ET)
         
      Its clear RL is quoting RE. At one point RL even says "I'm not gonna apologize for it. I'm quoting Rahm emanual" Its at the end where RL uses the words "retard summit" comparing it to the beer summit that he may have crossed the line. Personally I don't think Emanuel did anything wrong in the first place though i can understand How someone like Palin, having a developmentally challenged son, would over react.

      As far as Rush saying the words "retard summit" He was still referring to Emanuel's views. The whole thing was quoting Emanuel but not verbatim. I think the world needs to get a lot less sensitive though.
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