Palin: We'd be wise to seek "some divine intervention again" to be safe, secure and prosperous
February 06, 2010 11:22 pm ET
From Fox News' coverage of Sarah Palin's February 6 address to the National Tea Party Convention:
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Good News Bible Today's English Version -Proverbs 14:31
If you oppress poor people, you insult the God who made them; but kindness shown to the poor is an act of worship.
As a matter of fact, the nannyocracy of the US makes the care of widows and the orphans more difficult for the pious. The government is an evil. A sometimes necessary evil, but an evil none the less.
It is also impossible for a person to show kindness to the rich through the forced tax cuts for the top 1%. That's REAL redistribution of wealth.
The thought that our elected officials make decisions that affect MY life & they do so because some "man in the sky" told them to, is a very scary thought.
Decisions that affect the whole of the country should be based on facts & data, not on religion.
Aren't you at least curious what sort of guidance Allah will give us?
The United States was founded on the presuppositional base of the Christian religion. It has operated on that base throughout its history (with increasing apostasy in the last 45 years or so). If you want to see what public policy without God looks like, look at the regimes of Hitler, Stalin and Mao.
Your 'thought' that we should try to make policy devoid of rteligion is rather thoughtless.
I'm a Southern Baptist, and we believe that church and state should be completely separate. That's the only way to preserve both.
Uh, no, it wasn't. I recommend reading the constitution.
""As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..." -Treaty of Tripoli
Its a toss-up...
I thought one of the RW Talking Points was 'self-reliance'. Not asking for help from the Nanny State or the Invisible Stepdaddy.
How did Bush's Divine Guidance work out for the little Iraqi children who were turned in to red mist?
What is stopping Bible Sarah and her holy rollers from praying to God to make us "safe, secure and prosperous"? Nothing is stopping them. In fact, don't they already do that?
However, what Sister Sarah appears to be suggesting is the introduction of some form of worship to God into the political/government arena. What else can her comments mean since nothing is stopping her and friends from praying to God at Church and at home?
All it sounded like to me is that she was suggesting that we turn to God for guidance. Was is that such a horrible thing? The black civil rights movements said the same kinds of things. Big deal.
And, BTW if you don't appreciate how intrusive Evangelicals want the Bible to be in government then you must be living under a rock.
Goodnight...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oUht68wTQ8&feature=related
She was joined at the hip with a group called the Master's Commission, who believe very much in end times prophecy, and the state of Alaska as a "refuge state" in the end times. Frankly, I don't want one of them with their fingers on the button.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJnhRhJW35o
Core beliefs...
WE BELIEVE...in The Blessed Hope. When Jesus Raptures His Church Prior to His Return to Earth (the second coming). At this future moment in time all believers who have died will rise from their graves and will meet the Lord in the air, and Christians who are alive will be caught up with them, to be with the Lord forever. [1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the A/G]
WE BELIEVE...in The Millennial Reign of Christ when Jesus returns with His saints at His second coming and begins His benevolent rule over earth for 1,000 years. At that time many in the nation of Israel will recognize and accept Him as the Messiah, the Savior who died for them and all mankind.
WE BELIEVE...A Final Judgment Will Take Place for those who have rejected Christ. They will be judged for their sin and consigned to eternal punishment in a punishing lake of fire.
I don't particularly want a president who believes that me, or the other 2/3s of the non-Christian world, deserve to be tortured forever. If a president believes a just God can torture a group forever, I don't trust her to administer the laws in a way that would be fair to all Americans, even us "Hellbound" ones.
"Thinking that we should look to God for guidance is not the same as caling for the Bible to be taught in schools."
Maybe. Too bad a large portion of the political right don't think that way. I'm familiar enough with the ID movement to know that, even when they soft-pedal how they are not trying to get around the Establishment Clause of the First Ammendment, they really are.
For research on Ms. Palin's "beliefs," look up Mary Glazier, Windwalkers, New Apostolic Reformation and Latter Rain. I think most evangelical Christians would be appalled if they found out what this woman really believes. It's way out of mainstream, almost cultish.
AS IN -
with people like you!
They've lumped themselves into categories. Is that partisan hackery at it worst?
That is rich.
See my post above. Her church believes that the end times are coming and that Alaska will be a "refuge state" during the Tribulation. It's pretty scary stuff.
You have a double standard.
And maybe we can exorcise all those evil spirits that have been deviling the country?
And how can we have bipartisanship in Congress if everyone is speaking in tongues?
Just f-ing shoot me now...
Then apparently God is an Alabama fan. Maybe having the Tide roll over him like a tsunami is God's way of telling little Timmy to knock off the holier-than-thou attitude...
FYI, here's what one of the founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson had to say about religion and government. Sounds like he's a little at odds with Sarah's vision of the US Jefferson's multifaceted views on Religion
Oooooh... wouldn't that be delicious?
The Muslims will bomb a Christian church is they incorporate the word Allah. Here is an excerpt from a news report easily searched on google.
There were protests in Malaysia yesterday and four arson attacks on Christian churches, apparently provoked by a court decision to allow Christians to use the word Allah.
Then maybe the drilling will resume to release the pressure of oil that is trying to make its way to the surface.
What I'm really requesting divine intervention into is a way to relieve the rest of us of the hate and divisiveness that people like Palin push on a daily basis, and I'm not joking.
"divine intervention --
מָשִׁיחַ-
-In Jesus's name!-
الله أكبر-
-Allahu Akbar!-
-God is Great!-
My GOD or Your GOD how is KING on the court !
D@MN they are the same GOD!!
................NOT in MY BOOK"
Palin :
"divine intervention --
-In Jesus's name!-
-Allahu Akbar!-
-God is Great!-
My GOD or Your GOD how is KING on the court !
D@MN they are the same GOD!!
................NOT in MY BOOK"
Palin :
Palin-
"My GOD is Better than your GOD!
My GOD is Better than yours!
My GOD is Better than your GOD!!
My GOD is Better , Becouse HE is AMERICAN!
My GOD is Better than your GOD!"
She's been invoking "God's Law" since day one. When will it stop? You can believe whatever you want but don't push it in my face or make me feel bad for not believing what you do.
How wants to bet how long it will take her say to "God wants Obama out of the White House"?
Sara Palin has more integrity, intelligence, and morals in her little pinky than every single one of you sickos combined!
Thank GOD there are only 50 or so of you pathetic elitist jerks.
"I said 'thanks but no thanks' on that bridge to no-wheyurr. Oops, turned out the opposite happened."
"I read all the magazines in the world, doncha know."
"Okay, you ladies are gonna have to pay for your own rape kits, you betcha. This ain't no welfare state."
Hey, cool, we can have a rumble with every member of the Tea Party whose parents aren't related, since we're evenly matched.
She's an incompetent, unintelligent, hate-filled woman who uses her sex appeal to convince idiots like you that she's something she's not.
There's a major difference, and it is that liberals are able to support their comments with fully documented facts. We tend to not buy into emotionalism, constant lying, and ongoing propaganda campaigns absent of facts to win elections
It is not "politicaly correct" to respect ahteists, agnostics, or people of a faith that dont "fear" their god. However, I do think the answers to our problems are spiritual; but from the Dalai Lamma's perspective. It would include EVERYONE and have a god stronger than any one could mythologise or define. It would come from within. Palin's OT angry god would vaporise under the weight of it's own hypocracy and contridictions.
Either way, who cares if these leaders pray? It's none of my business. Like her own bible says: DO IT IN PRIVATE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtcVMTZkTZQ
Despite betraying the American people and her oath of office, misguided tea-baggers and conservative media hail this lying president hater as some viable leader of a legitimate political Party.
Sarah Palin shamelessly took her hood off before spending most of her speech attacking and criticizing the President of the united state, which is apparently all the qualifications needed to be a Tea-bagger or Tea-bagger speaker.
This convention was nothing more than a lynch mob meeting, aimed at Barack Obama, a black man.
The attack on the president was mostly Republicans talking points, talking points that already been dispelled by Obama during a conference with the GOP last month.
This was lost on Sarah Palin and the media, whose only ticket to political success is to disparage the president and criticize his policies.
It is obvious that tea-bagers are not too bright because they are willing to go to hell as long as someone lead them there.
Time to play the racecard already mano? Only problem is, it don't work like it used to - it has been played way to many times.
mano: "It is obvious that tea-bagers are not too bright because they are willing to go to hell as long as someone lead them there."
Yep. The Party who agrees with abortions (even up to full term) with over 42 million babies killed so far in the U.S., yet is against the death penalty for people who kill little kids, is certainly the Party going not to hell! See why I think liberalism is a mental disorder?
The irony is Palin has done nothing wrong which could ever deserve all the continual hate from the Left - except being a conservative.
Her belief that she is doing the work of god is the same as the people who hate us.
Your comment shows no evidence that you've read any of this thread.
Big difference between Al Gore and Sara Palin. Al Gore is a con man making millions off of AGW from fools who still think GW is caused by man while Sara Palin is a very honest person who is vilified by the Left because they are terrified of her honesty. In other words, Al Gore deserves to be bashed. Rememeber his late 90's tax return when he gave to charity a big $800 or so on an AGI well into six figures? What a nice man!
Leftists are always so condescending and snobbish as exhibited so often when talking about Sara Palin, yet soze doesn't even know the difference between bashing and hating. What a winner.
Thanks for your opinion Loser Leftist. You know what they say about opinions, don't you? Everybody has one - along with something else all people have one of - and especially losers like you who have a very big one!
Hypocritical, huh, retired? You b!tch and moan about "leftists" being hateful, but almost all of your posts have some sort of insult in them.
Also, while I know that you call progressives "elitist" because you heard it from Rush and Beck, do you have any idea what that actually means? I'm guessing that you just think that we're elitist because we disagree with you.
Well, compared to the alternative, of course we are.
Evidence that Ms. Palin is a very honest woman. What does the 1st Dude have to say about it?
Poor wittle Sarah Palin would never bash anyone.
There used to be some thought provoking arguments between the whining and name calling.
Did the funding dry up for this site?
A little divine intervention may be a good weapon against the enemies of freedom.
You sound like either a member of al-Qaeda or a "300" extra. And yes, I know all right-wingers already believe themselves to be the latter, but even so.
It makes you irrelevant.
About seventy percent of everything you've ever posted is the word "libs". And that's the most substantial part, too.
Otherwise, check to see if there is anything else besides lib in the post.
I disagree with you and I'm none of those things. I would seriously doubt that you are actually a "conservative."
BTW, there is nothing inherently wrong or right with either liberalism or conservatism. And, you will find that most people are a combination of BOTH. Also, most people do not apply these RIDICULOUS political ideologies to their every day life. Most people just live.
Regarding divine intervention, I will say again that it was divine intervention that rescued the climategate emails and gave the children some hope that they don't have to hold in their flatulence to save the world.
Now your obvious response will be to change the subject, name call, ignore the facts, and make fun of a serious situation.
It would have been a crime not to rescue them.
It was divine intervention that revealed climategate.
It would have been a crime not to rescue them.
No, it would be a crime to steal them, and that's what happened. While it looks like the UEA did not comply with pertinent FOI requests, that still does not justify theft. Whoever requested that data could have gone through legal channels to obtain it.
Nice to see you condone illegal activities if they fit your ideology.
I see in the news that climategate professor Phil Jones wants to use the Adolf Hitler easy out suicide method to escape accounting for his atrocity to mankind.
I hope he does not get off so easily.
Proof please? You cannot possibly have any factual proof for your claim. If the CRU was going to destroy the data, why hadn't they done it before. The issues they had with FOI requests happened months before the emails were hacked and stolen. Nice try, but fail.
climate gate delete emails
and you will find stuff like this:
Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis.
Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t have his new email address.
We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
The government must make examples out of those who use fraud to solicit and obtain public funding.
That is the real reason I believe Phil Jones has become suicidal. He is trying to get sympathy.
It reminds me of the song Sympathy for the Devil - the result of divine intervention.
You undermine your whole point right there. He asked for the emails to be deleted. Not the data. The data was (and still is) available at the research posts it was obtained from. Nice try, but no data would be lost. Also, do you have conclusive proof that the CRU used "fraud" to obtain funding? I mean rock-solid, incontravertible proof that fraud, willfull fraud, was used? I doubt it.
I don't think a jury will have much trouble finding willful fraud. Why else would Jones be threatening suicide? My guess is he's trying to strike a deal and the suicide threats give him a reason to become a traitor to his peers.
This is divine intervention at its best.
So I'd like to see two things: 1 - where is your info about the motivation for Mr. Jones' attempted suicide, and 2 - which FOI request asked about the emails.
Also, even if the emails were asked for, why does it matter? Assuming you are right,if the original data is still around, wouldn't that prove you anti-global warming people right anyway?
Go back and read my post ten times. Then see if you can find the word "guess" in it!
Better get a good lawyer.
all records, documents, internal communications, and other relevant covered material created by, provided to and/or sent by NASA/GISS citing, referencing, discussing, or otherwise related to the August 2007 correction by NASA/GISS of online temperature data for over 1200 U.S.
I will repeat my question to you:
Also, even if the emails were asked for, why does it matter? Assuming you are right,if the original data is still around, wouldn't that prove you anti-global warming people right anyway?
Since you don't know the science, don't read anything by people who do know the science, and have no interest in an actual debate or conversation, I will not hold my breath for a rational answer. I will, however, suggest an education and maybe some independent thought.
The proof is in the actual emails. All you have to do is take your head out of the sand.
If you want the physical proof, do a search on FOIA.zip and download the 61.93 MB file - I am not going to read them for you.
From the epoch times:
The emails also appeared to show the CRU researchers urging each other to delete emails, conniving to prevent other scientists from publishing of dissenting views, and debating how to avoid complying with Freedom of Information requests.
"Poor wittle Sarah Palin would never bash anyone."
Where is the bashing? What she said is true!
As for Palin, I'm not sure if you noticed this, but CONSERVATIVES don't like Palin. In 2004, 80% of the voters in my city voted for GWB. In 2008, 75% of the voters voted for McCain. You know why there was a drop? Sarah Palin. She is not a "conservative," she's an opportunistic, incompetent, cultist who folks like you believe is the second coming . . . so does she.
Civil? You can not be serious! Read your past posts bintx to see just how uncivil you are! In fact, you are one of the most hate-filled posters this Board. Typical though, for a libbie to not see their own hypocricy. And no, I have not heard "the hate that Palin spews" and I listen to her all the time. Maybe you can give all of us a few examples (opinions do not count).
BS bintx. Name the "Republican strategist" or apologize.
So is this how YOU pal around with terrorists?
You are either with us or against us Sarah. Now we know. You are with the terrorists.
See how that works.
Where the hell did this fear of God come from?
Again, WTF?
I think some divine intervention is needed to undo the hysteria of the progressives who paint a bleak picture of America and make people sick with their dire predictions.
A few lightning bolts now and then in the right place can do wonders. One example is the leak that exposed the climategate email.
Call it what you want, to me it was divine intervention.
Cute, josepadilla2--you think that FOIA applies to foreign entities. Now what was that Herr Tancredo was saying about cultural literacy tests?...
Now tell us what the word trick means to you, with regard to scientific research.
Then tell us how hard you've checked any of Inhofe's sources
---spoken by Sarah Palin, "progressive", 2/6/09
You are on the fast track to total break down.
You have no chance to survive make your time.
There are some obvious fools on this thread.
Oh boy! Here we go again! Pushing her so-called christian values to make everyone be more religious in this country.
Not everyone believes in religion SARAH! We already know your religious values and want no suggesttions from you.