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Politico's VandeHei criticizes Fox's Sammon for saying mainstream media hates the tea parties

February 08, 2010 8:38 pm ET

From the February 8 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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Time for Bill Sammon to write another memo

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    • Author by calijohn (February 08, 2010 8:55 pm ET)
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      o'reilly cited cnn and msnbc as "main stream media" - that comes as quite a shock after all the negative comments about those two networks i've seen on fox.
      i view the mainstream media as network news and print journalism. the networks are pretty neutral on the tea parties, unlike fox news.
      the newspapers also tend to report the facts, with the exception of the wsj, the moonie news and the oc register. and of course any other murdoch controlled papers.
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      • Author by ProgLib (February 08, 2010 9:21 pm ET)
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        the networks are pretty neutral on the tea parties, unlike fox news.


        I agree... obviously, Olbermann, Matthews, Schultz and Maddow all go after the tea parties, but to claim that because their prime time line-up goes after them, that means the whole network does, too? None of the straight news people at NBC/MSNBC do it.

        So, using Bill's logic, does that mean that Fox News fully supports, funds and takes part in all of the tea parties? Of course they do, Bill... your own bunk buddy at 5pm (who you have on your show all the time) organized the damn things, practically. And, they do their programs live from the rallies, promote them and plug in their little websites and information.

        Bill is such a disingenuous clown. If he would actually admit that the network praises the tea parties and loves them compared to MSNBC hating them, supposedly, then it would make sense and just be the typical Fox News. And, Bill talks about using facts... please.
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      • Author by bluestate69 (February 08, 2010 9:55 pm ET)
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        the tea party movement gets upset when you report the facts about them. they get upset when their racist (and hateful) signs are shown on tv. they get upset when someone points to a racist (and hateful) speech by one of their speakers.
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      • Author by bewildered (February 09, 2010 1:07 am ET)
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        Isn't Fox part of the MSM? Has O'Reilly forgotten that already?
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      • Author by bintx (February 09, 2010 9:23 am ET)
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        I have to agree with you. The cable networks are mostly opinion and very little news.
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    • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (February 08, 2010 8:59 pm ET)
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      Bill O'Reilly: I have my view, and you have your view. And I'm going to shout over you whenever you try to state your view. Cause that's how we do it at Fair and Balanced.
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    • Author by dogbreath (February 08, 2010 8:59 pm ET)
         
      Why would anyone disparge the Tea Party Movement? Perhaps it is because they disparge everyone themselves. They give a hatchet job to the President, the media, the Congress - to anyone who dares to confront them or disagree with them. It seems to me that the media was tripping over themselves to cover this event where only 600 of 300 million Americans showed up. Palin has received a great deal of coverage from the entire thing. The reality is that the Tea Party doesn't necessarily want "positive" stories, they prefer their propaganda riden tirades. All they want is exposure and heaven knows, they got plenty of that.

      I think Bill is about to wet himself in this clip.
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    • Author by ProgLib (February 08, 2010 9:15 pm ET)
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      Boo-hoo, Bill... Good Lord. Cry us a freaking river. Just your typical way of making everybody agree with you based on evidence from Bill Sammon (of all people) to claim that the MSM "hates" the tea party movement. What, just because you make fun of something, you hate it? No, you criticize it and give your point of view. That's how you're supposed to run things in TV news these days... figure it out.
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    • Author by gg (February 08, 2010 9:23 pm ET)
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      Oh, where to start? Billo, as you the Daily Show has given your network and tea parties more news coverage (spotlight) then you really want.
      Ok, so the MSM hasn't given it enough coverage, but you know there is a guy on my street corner, who says some really crazy things (no, he is not Glenn Beck) but every now and then he makes sense and yet, I don't don't see Fox News out there, hanging on to his every word.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (February 08, 2010 9:25 pm ET)
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      Perhaps instead of quantifying the number of negative stories about the tea party movement in the MSM, Bill should look at whether what the MSM said about the tea party movement in those stories was true. You can accuse the MSM of hating a mass murderer if all their news coverage about him is negative. But that doesn't mean that the coverage was false.

      From my perspective there is a lot about the tea party movement to objectively criticize. Is Bill saying there is nothing to objectively criticize the tea party movement for? I that's what he thinks then it's Bill who needs to take the blinders off.
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    • Author by Lizinbklyn (February 08, 2010 9:27 pm ET)
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      Teapartiers walk around carrying signs depicting President Obama as a chimpanzee and Bildo is complaining that MSM isn't taken teapartiers seriously . .

      Imagaine if the real MSM networks actually showed these protesters and their racist signs on the local news during the dinner hour . .

      Bildo has absolutely no respect for this POTUS. Why doesn't he just admit it and quit using his buffers (Goldberg, Miller, blondes, etc.) to mask his own racism . .

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    • Author by bluestate69 (February 08, 2010 9:50 pm ET)
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      i'd like to see sammon's "data" to back up his baseless allegations. if anything, the media has bent over backwards for the tea party movement. anderson cooper is a good example. he may have disparaged the tea partiers by calling them "tea bagger's", but that was in jest. look at cnn, and cooper's coverage of the tea party movement. it has been pro tea party all the way. they devoted an entire weekend to the convention, with little or no criticism. FOR GOD'S SAKE, tom tancredo gave an outright racist speech, and the "mainstream" media hasn't uttered a word. this speech was met with a rousing applause, and not a peep from the media. it's not a story. the problem is there hasn't been enough criticism.
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    • Author by whatIthink (February 08, 2010 10:05 pm ET)
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      I don't understand Fox's criticism of the "mainstream" media. Fox, and Ailes, crows about Fox having the highest cable news ratings. So, wouldn't it follow that the most watched cable news channel would be the most mainstream media?

      And I don't know if "mainstream" media hates the teabaggers, I don't know if most of America hates the teabaggers. I am pretty certain that most of America laughs at the teabaggers and, at times, feels pity for them for being such willing/unwilling dupes of the very things they say they are fighting. I am also pretty sure that most of America is disgusted with they way opportunist parasites like Palin use them and squeeze them for all the money they can get.
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    • Author by Sks1 (February 08, 2010 10:27 pm ET)
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      if you listened carefully you can hear Oreilly use the word " we " have the proof therefore involking himself as a part of the right wing of the fox news republican party. he says only 2 positive stories came out of the so called mainstream media about the tea party movement,,,well im yet waiting on ONE positive story to come out of fixed news about the president of these united states,,when fox does that Billo then you have room to shout down any of your guest that disagree with you,,,oh by the way Bill i bet you wont be having Jon Stewart on anytime soon will ya?,,,he basically wiped the floor with any asinine argument you brought forth in your lame defense of fox news being a fair and balanced organization.
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    • Author by donwelty (February 08, 2010 10:49 pm ET)
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      It's OK for fox news to back the tea parties and report on them, but it's not OK for other networks to express a different opinion? Is Fox a victim here? Again, Bill decides not to have a discussion but a shouting match. Bill shows no class here.
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    • Author by magnolialover (February 08, 2010 11:42 pm ET)
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      Not in any story that I've ever seen or heard about the tea parties in the MSM. Especially not this weekend. There were glowing stories all around.

      What O'Reilly REALLY means is that the MSM doesn't promote the tea parties endlessly like FoxNews does. I mean, there was something like 150+ journlists as the tea party, which is a lot of MSM for a 600 person convention.
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    • Author by Prospect (February 09, 2010 9:26 am ET)
         
      I find it a little hard to understand how every other day Fox touts around their ratings and numbers, and try to use the facade that they don't fit into mainstream.

      It has to be one or the other. Either you're the highest rated "news" network on television, which makes you part of the MSM, or you're not. It's that simple.

      How can you be "killing them in the ratings" as Bill O'Reilly likes to say, and NOT be considered mainstream?
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