Beck adds Nancy Pelosi to list of California "radicals" that includes communists, eco-terrorists and Black Panthers
February 09, 2010 6:26 pm ET
From the February 9 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:
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See I can type in random words that have no meaning in the context of the thread, too.
You need to understand the liberal mindset. As you have seen in their responses to you they will not attack or respond to any post that incorporate what people in the real world call "facts". They WILL attack you personally and anyone with any opinion that differs in the slightest with their narrow idealogy. In other words, unless you just posting to mess with their empty cranium or just trying to kill time you will have no success in altering their views because they are not interested in listening to other opinions. They are the tolerant ones.
But I am a fan of Beck. When have I said the contrary?
If you're a working class American, like most of us, then you are getting your sack stomped on by corporate entities and their rapidly increasing control over our democratic process. Try yelling your slogans at them. Oh, right. They only listen to major shareholders.
What exactly was misleading about what Beck said? It either did or did not happen.
Or was it the rapid industrialization of the midwest, vastly enlarged markets in war-burnt Europe, and wild speculation by the mega-rich beneficiaries of railways and, oil?
And: *was* Government smaller in the 20's? And: for whom were the 20's prosperous? In any case, all of the forgoing - your points and mine - led to the Great Depression.
It seems to me your view of history is a bit simplistic.
The fact of the matter is, though, that lower taxes for everybody is better than higher taxes for the rich. Less government spending is better than more government spending.
Was Beck wrong when he said that the income tax was originally supposed to be 1% for most people and 7% for the rich? Those rates - we were told according to Beck - were supposed to stay that way forever. Is Beck wrong in any of this?
Fair enough.
"The fact of the matter is, though, that lower taxes for everybody is better than higher taxes for the rich."
Not necessarily. "Lower taxes for everybody" just means Gov't has less with which to do what it needs to do. " Less government spending is better than more government spending." Not necessarily again. Government spends what it needs to spend.
"income tax was originally supposed to be 1% for most people and 7% for the rich ... Those rates ... were supposed to stay that way forever"
This comes from the wikipedia article on the 16th Amendment: "To raise revenue to fund the Civil War, the income tax was introduced in the United States with the Revenue Act of 1861. It was a flat tax of 3% on annual income above $800. The following year, this was replaced with a graduated tax of 3-5% on income above $600 in the Revenue Act of 1862."
I'm not sure where Beck got his 1% or 7%, but unless time stands still, no income tax rate is going to stay any way forever!
This is all assuming Wikipedia is accurate.
The rates could be locked in assuming the government didn't go apeshit crazy with spending on various entitlement programs.
And, we know you are a Becker, Mag. We just couldn't find you to explain to us why Barack Obama is not an "American" enough name like your hero told us. Now, that you are back, please explain to us why Obama is not an American enough name and how that criticism is not racist and xenophobic.
Very well: there is a non-lie in Beck's spiel. It's still rubbish. And it contradicts his current Obama-bash that it's naughty to tax those who earn a lot.
The lessons learned from the 1929 crash, if nothing else, demonstrated the need for stronger government regulation of the financial sector. Small groups of the wealthiest investors were able to manipulate stock prices and push them to artificially high levels. Those of more modest means were able to purchase shares at 10% margin. As prices stumbled below the margin price many found themselves with virtually worthless investments and unable to pay on what they owed.
So, tighter controls were put on place. FDR increased spending and the country recovered. These are irrefutable facts. Nevertheless, there are still voices that call for a return to the unregulated practices of the '20's eager to point at the excesses of that time as a goal we should aspire towards, ignoring the annoying truth that this country is no longer the only industrial power in the world, and that great wealth in the stock market can only be achieved when you buy low and sell high. When you buy a share of stock you're purchasing it from someone who believes it has reached its peak and its price will fall.
From Wikipedia: "The New Black Panther Party (NBPP), whose formal name is the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, is a U.S.-based black supremacist organization"
That's all I need to know. Sorry if Beck, myself, and people like us aren't as sophisticated as you to be able to tell the difference. Let's just call Beck a big, fat, fatty liar and end this conversation.
You are believing a LIE. Beck is a liar and he is an uneducated tool who cares NOTHING about the lies he tells . . . it's all about ratings and attention. You and the rest of his blind followers NEVER question anything this man says. He's a serial liar, Mag. That's been his MO for years.
Try looking up Beck's crap.
Oh, and The Black Panthers are NOT the New Black Panthers . . . The Black Panthers, the group that Beck wanted you to BELIEVE he was talking about, don't exist. You asked me what was false about Beck's statement and I gave you an example. As I said, you are so enamored of this lying, uneducated RADIO DJ that you won't believe anything anyone tells you anyway.
Very, very sad.
If you consider it a lie, then anybody that refers to the Tea Bag movement is a liar because there is no such thing as the Tea Bag movement. It's the Tea Party movement. Semantics? Yes. I'm simply applying the same standards you're using.
That guy's not holding a Tea Party up to the camera.
You do realize they took their name from the original Boston Tea party, don't you? What was the original Boston Tea Party about?
I'm a common folk, Mag, and I knew the difference. See, I don't listen to a talk radio/television host and believe that he knows what he's talking about. I hear something and I READ. I look it up MYSELF. Using the excuse that you are "common folk" to excuse your ignorance is pathetic and very sad. See, being EDUCATED is not a sign of sophistication, nor is it a sign that a person is not "common folk," it just means they don't choose to live their lives in ignorance.
Oh, and the teabaggers started calling themselves that, Mag. They were the ones running around wearing tea bags on their hats. Personally, I just think they are a bunch of fools. Half of them don't even know what they are protesting . . . they just don't like that black man in THEIR White House.
You obviously have chosen to remain in ignorance . . . good luck with it. I'm just waiting for Beck to own up to the fact that he's just playing you . . . . just like he's always played his audience. He's LAUGHING at you, Mag. He thinks that you "common folk" are STUPID as hell to be listening to and BELIEVING his crap. That's his schtick. He's been using it for years. You're being had.
I will bet you money - real, actual money - that Glenn Beck reads more books in a year than you do. This is all assuming there even was a way to prove it.
Honestly, whenever I'm in the car during the day I like to tune in to one of four right wing radio stations to play, "how long before the screeching white guy gets mad?" It often takes less than a minute.
thats sums up, better than anything else, the prevailing mantra of the Beck audience. They dont want to think , they simply want their fears and prejudices confirmed. this is a troubling time ,as most eras are, and Beck can tell them whos at fault.why is it that any time a black organization encourages self improvement among black people that they are deemed supremist. I for one am not afraid of Black self defence parties, and given their treatment by so many police agencies , I dont blame them.
But, because you actually believe that this uneducated, radio DJ con-man knows what he's talking about, you would never believe that. As I said, you're probably one of the people who would have shown up at the imaginary underground amusement park that Beck promoted a while back. You don't question any of his CRAP. It's really sad.
Uh... no. That's not how I took it. He said many good things about California throughout the show.
See. This seems like it would be a lie. There's no proof one way or the other to determine this I imagine.
OMG! Beck was right about you elitist snobs! Since he didn't go to college and was a radio DJ a long time ago then he can't possibly know anything?
By the way, did you know he was admitted and took one class at Yale? Have you ever been admitted to Yale?
I'm no elitist, Mag, I'm just not ignorant. Beck is uneducated and he shows it. You're being played, Mag. It's sad.
Let's try a more productive method. What political belief of Beck do you not agree with?
And I would still love for you to explain why Barack Obama is not an American name, but Glenn Beck is. And also explain how that is not a racist, xenophobic rant from your superhero.
Those were your words.
Here are Beck's words: "Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today."
He said it in sort of a sarcastic manner I suppose. How is that openly celebrating? It's not like he was jumping up and down going yip-yip-yahoo.
IMHO dragging trolls out from under a bridge is a waste of time. But sometimes...
First the 20s were a time of unregulated paradise (never mind the Depression it led to). Now, he is defended because he was only happy that peoples' houses were burning and not jumping up and down in joy. Truly remarkable.
He's fallen off his pony and hit his head one too many times.
Hey now, that's no way to talk about Jonah Goldberg.
You'd read about the robber barons going back over a hundred years. And Mark Twain around that time saying that the only criminal class in America was the congress. I used to think, "Yeah sure", -- a good line but he must have been exaggerating for effect. And about the mob, I thought that was as bad as it gets.
Now I no longer give much thought to the breaking of society's laws, even on a massive scale. Now it's the very nature of our society which occupies my mind. It probably always should have.
On the other hand, he doesn't deserve your beautiful city. (Lived there most of the '70s & miss it!)
Inmitating Becky in Incredible Hulk voice: Beck mad at California. Will tell viewers it is bad place to live.
How can anyone listen to this clown?