Beck on D.C.'s snow: "I believe God is just saying, 'I got your global warming here, eh?' "
February 10, 2010 11:00 am ET
From the February 10 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
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Oh the hilarity...
...True.
I learned this in grade nine back in 1960 for crying out loud..
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The key words in the above statement: SO FAR
MMFA doesn't claim that a given post, or collection of posts, to be an exhaustive exploration of a given show or the media as a whole. Your statement is a blatant strawman argument.
Maybe I should have let them go at it a bit until they could figure it out. Oh well.
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If you don't like MMfA's "schtick", then just ignore it, Mag.
You: Glennie is the crap scrapped off the grills at MickieD's and flushed down the drains, you and your fellow fans must have been supersized!
Me: Keep on telling yourself that. Maybe it'll make it true someday.
See, I was telling you to repeat your statement that Beck and his fans are crap in some lame attempt to make it actually true. Sort of like covering your hands over your ears and shouting, "La la la I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" in order to win an argument.
BTW, I'm all about the snark.
He doesn't understand the Constitution. He may have read it, but he doesn't understand what he read. He left out the 27th Amendment in his last book, and he failed to mention The Elastic Clause (something I learned about in high school.)
Progressives are like cockroaches with a plan to enslave the whole country. Progressives have fought to extend civil rights to women and minorities.
Little Ronnie Reagan was the one using Cloward and Piven to force the American people to give up Social Security and Medicare by ruining the economy and thus making them too expensive to maintain.
He's anti-Semitic. He would never have made the remarks about Jews that he has if he wasn't.
He was wrong to call the President a racist. The President isn't a racist, but Bleck sure is.
He hates women, especially middle age women. He heaps his worst, most juvenile vomit on women, Hillary, Madeline Albreit, Cathy from Massachusetts, whose straight forward question sent him into a fit of skretching-teakettle apoplexy.
He is anti-union. Unions have, in the past done wonders for the working stiff. Glennie is a corporate whore, on his knees to Ol'Ruprick.
Glennie is advocating for a revolution. I don't exactly know what or where he is going. But I get a whiff of something disgusting, I just can't place it yet.
That's enough. I'm bored now.
-What specifically doesn't he understand? By saying he doesn't understand it I'm assuming you believe you have a better understanding of it. In what circumstances is your understanding of it correct and his wrong?
"Little Ronnie Reagan was the one using Cloward and Piven to force..."
-So Beck believes in the same principles as Cloward and Piven?
"He hates women, especially middle age women"
-He's married to a middle-aged woman. How can he hate women if he's happily married to one? That's like calling Rush Limbaugh a racist even though one of his good friends is black.
"He is anti-union."
-Perhaps. Unions were necessary and useful in the past. They've far outlived their usefulness since then. He's not necessarily anti-union, just anti unions trying to get involved in legislation.
Most of what listed aren't really political positions. You just listed some of his opinions and disagreed with them.
Try this for starters. Be honest here. I'm interested in where you actually differ with respect to what Beck has to say in that article.
No, Glennie says that liberals want to use Cloward and Piven to collapse the system. Actually, it was Reagan and the Reagan Revolution that sought to collapse the system. Reagan quite possibly never even heard of Cloward and Piven. I hadn't until a couple of months ago. But, one can slide along a path without being aware of academic principles.
I read as much as I could stomach. Sounds really good. So did "Kuche, Kirche, Kinder" but I wouldn't have swollowed it, either. I live a much more conservative life than Glennie ever has. I've had one lover/husband in my life. I've never neglected or abandoned my children. And I've never abandoned my faith, either. And I've always been a pretty straight-laced individual. I think most of his principles lead to self-absorbtion and a complete disregard for your fellow human beings.
I also don't trust Glennie to actually live out what he says. I remember a Jewish man who saw Adolf Eichmann on trial and he said all he could think was "The Devil is a gentleman." It may have been Weisenthall, maybe somebody else. I heard it 35 years ago on "60 Minutes" and it struck me as very profound. I don't for a moment think that Glennie is a gentleman, but he might pass for charming to someone else. Remember, I am immune to charm.
'Course, anyone who believes that intelligence is a sign of "elitism" and "sophistication" and that it is, because of those two bizarre descriptions, BAD . . . you deserve to be laughed at.
If you don't like his "schtick" then ignore him. I don't like Olbermann's schtick so I do my best to ignore him. What I don't do is bad mouth him because it isn't productive for myself.
Beck is laughing at you, Mag. That's what he does. It's his pattern, it's his history.
Again, based upon your ridiculous defense of Beck's ignorance and your own last night . . . you deserve his ridicule.
I've never seen you post any logic here. Just blind adoration for a dumba**.
Remember what I said about logic?
Isn't logic a sign of "sophistication and elitism," Mag? Careful, you'll lose your "common man" persona.
Admit it, your hero is a dumba** who has a bunch of dumber a**es like you believing that he knows what he's talking about.
Furthermore you are the one who feels it is necessary to resort to personal attacks both on him and myself. Why is it necessary I wonder? I'm the "dumber a**es" yet I don't need to resort to base personal attacks. My arguments stand on their own.
Awfully defensive about the Beckster.
But since the 2008 election season began, it's been nearly impossible to spot them since they all use the same tired reasoning, talking points and misdirection to derail a thread.
“I say on the air all time, ‘if you take what I say as gospel, you’re an idiot.’“ -- Glenn Beck
I'm entertained by the Three Stooges. And train wrecks. And porn.
lol lol lol lol lol. "Spittle-flecked hate"? You must get 100% of your Beck-fix from sites like MMFA. Pathetic.
A "sophisticated and elite" [read: intelligent] person does not limit oneself to hearing only one opinion . . . I actually listen to most of the hate talk radio crew. Usually, when I'm in my car traveling on business. Keeps me awake on long drives. It's hard to fall asleep when you are laughing your ass off or yelling at the lies being spewed forth from the radio.
You should try listening to dissenting views sometime, you might actually learn something and acquire a bit of "sophistication and elitism." Or, as most people call your ridiculous definition: INTELLIGENCE.
And, yes, before you say it I know it's not just Democrats or progressives responsible. It's just that Obama and the current crop of Democrats have stepped on the accelerator as we're driving towards a cliff.
Dubya followed his hero's path, with help from Darth Cheney, the Prince of Darkness who uttered the famous phrase "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." Dubya got us into a mult-trillion dollar war that he financed through continuing resolutions and didn't put into the budget. The Obama budget is a mess, but it is a more honest mess since it does include war expenses.
Republicans controled Congress for 12 years, they could have done something about the deficts if they had wanted to. Instead, they let PAYGO lapse and poured on the spending. It is only because Obama is in office that they and people like you have become such deficit hawks. It's kind of like an old barracks whore being caught in the act and declaring she's a born again virgin!
What Obama is doing is Keynesian Economics, and many of the economists thought the spending was too little, not stepping on an accelerator pedal. A McCain win would have problably led to another Depression.
Sure, that's why these "tea parties" started during the Bush Administration and were directed primarily at the Republican President and Republican Congress which was jacking up massive deficits.
You must be kidding. Nobody could be that stupid.
Just my opinion.
I can make up random percentages with no facts to back them up, too.
That's actually a very mean and intolerant thing to say. I consider myself a pretty heavy conservative yet even I wouldn't hope somebody's career fails. Case in point I would never wish and hope that Michael Moore turns in to a failure. As an American I wish him the best in his career decisions.
We're getting in to dangerous territory when someone can hate a guy like Glenn Beck so seriously that they wish bad things happen to him. Do we really want to go there as a country? Is that the kind of environment MMFA is promoting?
Well, then, aren't you just the nice guy. I don't hate Glenn. Glenn Beck is leading people seriously astray with his paranoia and conspiracy mongering. He is lying, smearing, and raging against Progressives. He is evil, because he knows what he is doing is wrong and he gleefully does it anyway, laughing and mocking (even his own audience) all the way to the bank. If Glennie never made another cent, on any of his ventures, selling his lies to the misguided, the undereducated and the haters, and loosing both his TV and radio audiences, he could live very, very, very well on just this year's income! I won't make a million dollars in what is left of my working career, Glennie made upwards of $20 million. And Glenn's undoing will come at his own hand, when the audience wakes up and recognises him for the evil he is. (That's why KO calls him Lonesome Rhodes.) I never said I wanted harm to come to him. His career is a thing to make money, it isn't him. He's already made more in a year than many wealthy people will see in a lifetime. As to Michael Moore, he has never been accused of the hate-mongering that Glennie is guilty of. Michael Moore is a sclub of a guy. Glenn is a sociopath, and to quote him: "a sick, twisted freak". I don't hate Glenn Beck, I fear the evil he is hell-bent on stirring up, because someone will be hurt, and our country could be endangered.
I personally don't think he could handle a face to face conversation with me. I think he would launch into another apoplectic fit again. I don't back down, and I have a fantastic memory, chalk full of facts to back up my positions.
Actually, I came to MMFA because I saw that they had a place to speak against him. He makes my skin crawl and my guts roll. I have a very reliable gut instinct. The only troubles I have ever had in my life came from ignoring it. Glennie has set off my instinct from the first time I heard of him. His own words, nothing here on MMFA.
You don't know me, so you don't know how independent of thought and action I am. How much of my life I have gone against the flow. No one ever tells me what to think or say. They may occasionally tell what I shouldn't have said, but never what to say. That clear-eyed autonomy usually drives people crazy! It's the way I have always been.
For myself, I believe in marriage and the family (that's why I've only had one). I am a devout Catholic, conservative and traditional in practice (with all that implies). But I live with a Jewish agnostic. I tolerate atheists. I have friends who are Gay, so I believe in a Civil Union/marriage for Gays.
I have read the Constitution and understand it. I believe in Government. This whole thing about small government doesn't work. I believe in Public Schools. Since we are a mobile urban/suburban society, we need to make sure that legal protections and expectations go across geographic areas. I believe in a diverse society. I believe in a world view. I am a great fan of the Roosevelts and LBJ. I believe in unions, I also believe in making a decent living, and being able to invest if I want to. I do not believe in corporate welfare, and I know from history just how heartless unregulated corporate domination can be, and how dangerous, too.
I believe in national health care or national health insurance. I believe that budgets should be balanced most years and that the current (Reaganomics created) deficits are too high. I believe that taxes need to be raised and some benefits need to be scaled back in order to keep Social Security and Medicare because they have done so much to help people. I believe in protecting the environment. I've never owned or considered owning a Hummer. If I were given an SUV, I would give it back.
Glennie-wennie is not a political leader. He is, of course, entitled to his opinions. But he has no more right or calling to express them than I do. He is not a journalist. He is not an economist. He is by his on admission, a rodeo clown, an entertainer, a commentator (even though he has no comprehension of what he is really talking about). He lies, he smears, he rants, he distorts. He is a man who by his own admission spent years stoned or drunk or both. He has a cruel streak, firing employees loudly and in public. He called a friend's wife, live on the air and mocked her husband and gloated about her miscarriage. He trash talked a popular DJ in one of his markets for being a fat, middle-aged woman. He tricked his audience into thinking there was an amusement park that wasn't there.
He is a racist and a sexist. He has mocked ethnic groups on the radio. He has threatened violence against a number of figures: Charlie Rangel, Michael Moore, and Nancy Pelosi. He called Elia Kazan a Communist despite the fact that Kazan was only in the party for a short time in the 1930's and actually co-operated with HUAC. He has hounded Van Jones mericilessly for once having been a Communist while in college more than 15 years ago. His views have evolved, Glennie refuses to recogize that.
He spent nearly 20 years as a drunken stoner punk, but he wants us to recognize him as this nice, spiritual dad, who is just trying to save his country from the evil Progressive/Liberal/Socialist/Communist/Fascist/Marxist/Maoist/Racists. He has no clue about an of the ideologies he is lumping together or the real history he is rewriting and trashing.
In short, he doesn't deserve my consideration. He does, however, deserve my scrutiny, criticism, and opposition until he reveals the depths of his ill-intent to his devoted, sycophantic followers and they abandon him just like the people in the 1957 classic, "A Face in the Crowd". Now, I've given you, whoever you really are, more time and consideration than you are really are, I don't really care if you have a problem with the way I believe. It's your problem and I'm not beholding to you or responsible for you.
Do you believe that our inalienable rights DO include the pursuit of happiness. That means it is guaranteed to no one?
Do you believe that those who pursue happiness and find it have a right to not be penalized for that success?
Do you believe that there are no protections against the hardship and heartache of failure? Do you believe that the right to fail is just as important as the chance to succeed and that those who do fail learn essential lessons that will help them the next time around?
Do you find any of those tenets of conservatism disagreeable?
I don't see why they can't include health care. A healthy citizen is a better citizen. It is part of providing for the general welfare and the common defense.
Do you believe that our inalienable rights DO include the pursuit of happiness. That means it is guaranteed to no one?
It depends on what makes you happy. Sexual abuse and exploitation, and rampent drug and alcohol use make some people happy. But they aren't really good for society.
Do you believe that those who pursue happiness and find it have a right to not be penalized for that success?
I don't happen to believe that happiness, money, and success are all the same thing. Glennie can make all the money he wants, but he should be taxed on it. He should pay more in taxes than the cleaning lady in his office, too. I pay a lot of taxes, I don't have many deductions. I shouldn't pay more in taxes than he does when he makes a thousand times more than I do.
Do you believe that there are no protections against the hardship and heartache of failure? Do you believe that the right to fail is just as important as the chance to succeed and that those who do fail learn essential lessons that will help them the next time around?
Some people never get a chance because of the system. I think that people should be given equal access to success. I believe in Public Education. I believe in programs to help people compete. I don't believe in "I've got mine. Who gives a flying expletive about you are anyone else."
Do you find any of those tenets of conservatism disagreeable?
Well, gee, here we are at the end. I guess I find about all of them disagreeable.
Sun Tzu The Art of War
18. Hence the saying: If you know the enemy
and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a
hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy,
for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will
succumb in every battle.
Perhaps, in order to point out lies, untruths, misinformation, or whatever you choose to call it. There are times that my jaw simply drops at what things Beck chooses to spew from his facial oriface. It's hard to wrap my brain around his racism and stupidity. As for Olbermann, I do enjoy his show along with Rachel Maddow's. Does this mean that I agree with EVERYTHING they offer up? Nope. I watch both sides in order to, hopefully, make the best decisions that I can make, and to keep myself as well informed as possible. How a person can consider himself well-informed by being spoon-fed one side or the other is ludicrous.
As for Beck laughing at folks ... yup, IMHO, I think that's exactly what he does ... laughs all the way to the bank. As for his tears ... they do nothing for me. I see enough girls in the all female residence hall that I manage cry 'on cue' whenever they think it benefits them. When I tell them to "knock that shj
What's so funny is that I have hand literally HUNDREDS of Christians confront me about my Atheism by saying "What is WE are right and there IS a God? Wouldn't you be safer to believe in God just in case?" And that is over a subject (God) that has NEVER had one drop of scientific evidence to support it.
With Climate Science, these same people will IGNORE science and prefer to just let corporationws polute without hinderance. They rage about putting debt on our children but don't mind dumping garbage all over their children's environment.
It's crazy how much influence TV can have. It can make people have completely contradicting viewpoints... Even ones that harm themselves.
I don't have the time to tutor you on 8th grade science class.
Before this thread gets filled with graphs (AGAIN) I implore you- ignore MagCync. He's either an uneducated dunce who CAN'T be taught, or he's a cynical clown who KNOWS you are right but would rather play k1dork's "let's pretend I'm an idiot, explain it again" game all day.
TRANSLATION: LA LA LA LA I can't HEAR you!!
"Give me proof."
"I dont understand this graph, make it bigger."
"I dont understand this bigger graph, make it clearer."
"This graph doesn't prove anything."
"Look at this graph provided by a right wing website, it refutes yours."
"Give me proof."
350 comments later, the troll has learned nothing- except that he can manipulate people into wasting a lot of time trying to teach simple mathematics to a box turtle.
And again, it's what you wanted.
I do not understand how anyone who calls himself/herself Christian can listen to these sacrilegious buffoons.
Although, I would like to think that God gets a kick out of the platypus - like boy - that was an interesting experiment. Glenn Beck, not so much.
So, there are bunch of Al Gore wannabees that actually believe pumping tons of greenhouse gases into the air actually increases the greenhouse effect? Ha! I'll show 'em! I'll dump a dangerous amount of snow all over the east coast--just for giggles! Oh sure, it'll be rough for those who lose their power and heat, but, my oh my, how they'll laugh when they learn it's just a prank!
Because that's the way the Supreme Being rolls, right?
- Bill O'Reilly
Of course, we will hear very little about the need to truck in snow for the Vancouver Olympics. Nor will we hear that the main symptom of global climate change is not unusual warm temperatures, but severe, erratic weather patterns AROUND THE WORLD, NOT JUST IN THE UNITED STATES.
They're only capable of thinking in absurdly oversimplified ways. Everything is black or white, good or evil, Christian or Muslim. There is no room in their thought process for uncertainty, doubt, or introspection. Once they've set a course, they never deviate, no matter how wrongheaded it is.
Oh the hilarity...
...True.