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Beck guest's advice to prep for "anarchy" of coming U.S. "debt implosion": "Grow your own food"; "take up arms"

February 11, 2010 6:54 pm ET

From the February 11 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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    • Author by MagCynic (February 11, 2010 6:56 pm ET)
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      Good to see President Clinton is doing well after his heart procedure. Man, those were the days. Remember when all we had to worry about was whether or not our President was boinking some intern on the side? Now we have to worry about if the U.S. will have enough money to go around.
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      • Author by raddave43 (February 11, 2010 6:59 pm ET)
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        Back when wingnuts were calling President Clinton a socialist?
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      • Author by The_Cat (February 11, 2010 7:00 pm ET)
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        Oh, come now, MagCynic. I think we can solve this current problem with a few less Sherriffs of Nottingham, and a few more Robin Hoods. There is, actually, plenty of money to go around, it's just that 90% of it is in the hands of about 3% of the population. Going to be a revolution one way or the other, and it would be better if it were a bloodless legal revolution, where the rich were merely relieved of some of their burdensome wealth, rather than the kind France had in the 18th century, when the rich were relieved of their heads. Just a thought.
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        • Author by Samurai Cowboy (February 11, 2010 7:44 pm ET)
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          Actually Cat, 1% of the population controls 90% of the wealth and the remaining 99% of the population wish that they could control the remaining ten 10% but never will.
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      • Author by pete592 (February 11, 2010 7:15 pm ET)
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        Remember when all we had to worry about was whether or not our President was boinking some intern on the side?
        That's all we had to worry about back then?
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        • Author by christopher howard (February 11, 2010 7:20 pm ET)
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          Hey we also had to worry about the Republicans ginning up a full-bore Constitutional crisis about said intern. Ah, those were such innocent times.

          p.s. Mag: I do believe your concern for Clinton was sincerely meant.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 11, 2010 7:50 pm ET)
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          Pete, I believe Mag was only reminiscing about Clinton's years, when terrorism in our country was kept in check for the most part. It was only after Bush shlepped into office that we had a major attack.

          Now, after eight years of Bush, we're just barely pulling out of a complete financial nosedive. I'm sure if another Republican prez gets in, we'll be looking back on the Obama years just as fondly.
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        • Author by inbow (February 11, 2010 7:57 pm ET)
             
          Yep, No deficit. The government was paying off the debt. Remember? Where's Monica when we need her the most.
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      • Author by Marker (February 11, 2010 7:27 pm ET)
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        Off topic pal, Beck needs alot of people coming over to his house to live if the economy implodes.
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (February 11, 2010 8:06 pm ET)
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        Remember when all we had to worry about was whether or not our President was boinking some intern on the side? Remember when it didn't occur to us that a President could lie us into unnecessary wars, push through Unconstitutional laws violating our civil rights, spy on our library records, or illegally tap our phones? Remember when we had a budget surplus?

        Yes, I do remember. Those WERE the days. Thanks to Dubya, they are long over.
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      • Author by temphandle tearfully55timetable (February 12, 2010 9:39 am ET)
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        You are an idiot!
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        • Author by temphandle tearfully55timetable (February 12, 2010 9:40 am ET)
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          this rather non intelligent reply was specifically meant for magcynic
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    • Author by The_Cat (February 11, 2010 6:57 pm ET)
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      I'm almost ashamed of you, Mr. Beck. Didn't you brief them on the need to plug gold gold GOLD? Certainly it is something your sponsors will expect, yes? I think you missed an opportunity here.
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    • Author by raddave43 (February 11, 2010 6:58 pm ET)
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      Beck said something true. He said that second guy was spookier than he is.
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    • Author by Samurai Cowboy (February 11, 2010 7:34 pm ET)
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      We are already growing our own food, and have already taken up arms. My wife and I live with her twin sister and brother-in-law for financial reasons. When we can find reloading supplies, the four of use hand load hundreds of rounds of 9 MM, .357, .45ACP, 30.06, 7.62x54R and 12 gauge shells. We are ready when the Radical Right Wing Militia's and mindless tea bagger's decide to start something because they have been egged on by Beck, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, etc.
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    • Author by Adamsville (February 11, 2010 7:35 pm ET)
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      tomatoes and M16s... the American dream
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    • Author by GBU-15 (February 11, 2010 7:40 pm ET)
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      People were saying this crap in 2000. It was amazing to watch grown men and women talk about stockpiling food and arms for the coming millineum meltdown. What a crock! I bet those same people are still eating all that crap they stored in 2000 to keep it from spoiling! Hey we survived eight years of the worst president to hold office. If Obama can get the good for nothing "blue dogs " off his back maybe something will get done. Remember folks this is the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Becky can fearmonger all he wants. I am unafraid.
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      • Author by christopher howard (February 11, 2010 7:57 pm ET)
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        "People were saying this crap in 2000. It was amazing to watch grown men and women talk about stockpiling food and arms for the coming millineum meltdown."

        Ha! Ha! I remember watching on the, then new, Fox News channel: "Y2K. If you're not afraid, you ought to be." I made it a point of pride to not even take minimal precautions for that one.
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      • Author by mescal (February 11, 2010 8:01 pm ET)
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        These people are called Survivalists, and they've been around with their paranoid predictions of an economic and societal apocalypse for as long as I can remember.
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        • Author by Samurai Cowboy (February 11, 2010 8:14 pm ET)
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          No, not survivalist. Just being prepared. We can or pickle what we grow in case of a natural disaster. Granted, there are paranoid survivalist running around, but the are right wing conspiracy theorists who believe the likes of Beck. These are the people that Darwin will weed out.
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        • Author by dogbreath (February 11, 2010 8:24 pm ET)
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          RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!
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      • Author by Samurai Cowboy (February 11, 2010 8:10 pm ET)
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        Yep. My stupid republican brother-in-law bought into all of that. He bought cases and cases of can goods, freeze dried foods. Cases and cases of bottled water. Anything non perishable that he could find, he bought. He even bought a big generator in case the power grid went down. Even though he has bought a new big house, he still has a huge percentage of the stuff that he bought.
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    • Author by Far Left but Always Right (February 11, 2010 7:49 pm ET)
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      Beck tried to make the analogy how he is only trying to prepare people about what could happen, like they do on an airplane when when they give you directions on what to do in an emergency. The only difference is the pilot/ flight attendants dont say "this plane is going to go down, there is no way we will make it to our destination"
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (February 11, 2010 8:28 pm ET)
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      Beck guest's advice to prep for "anarchy" of coming U.S. "debt implosion": "Grow your own food"; "take up arms"

      FEARMONGERING!

      Man! Don't you love it!
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    • Author by whatIthink (February 11, 2010 9:40 pm ET)
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      It's moronic rhetoric like this from Beck that leads to stupidity like this.
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      • Author by Samurai Cowboy (February 11, 2010 9:58 pm ET)
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        Now that is stupid. Granted, we have all types of non perishable food stuffs, water, and a large first aid back pack capable of minor surgery if need be. We have firearms. Two rifles from WWII, and modern day pistols and Tactical shot guns for all four of us. But not because we believe that the sky is going to fall at the same time that the dam bursts and the wolves attack (I just scared myself (:>)). But to be prepared for almost every type of emergency.
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    • Author by Les Philling (February 11, 2010 11:40 pm ET)
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      Beck guest's advice to prep for "anarchy" of coming U.S. "debt implosion": "Grow your own food"; "take up arms"

      It's one possible scenario. The "debt implosion" is being fought right now by the fed. One might wonder why there isn't great price inflation with all the money being spent and loans guaranteed by the government. The private sector is liquidating debt which is having the opposing effect of decreasing money supply.

      The more people who are independent of the system if such an extreme scenario comes to pass, the better. Not just for themselves but for the society as a whole, as those so prepared will not be putting stress on the system. What they're talking about is similar to buying insurance in normal times. You don't buy insurance with the hope of having to use it.
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      • Author by all your eyes (February 12, 2010 10:28 am ET)
           
        You clearly don't have any idea what you're talking about. There's no price inflation because there's so much slack in the economy. Without the enormous infusion of cash from the fed and the treasury, we'd have deflation, which would be extremely damaging to businesses and individuals.
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        • Author by Les Philling (February 12, 2010 8:19 pm ET)
             
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_deflation


          In Fishers formulation of debt deflation, when the debt bubble bursts the following sequence of events occurs:
          Assuming, accordingly, that, at some point of time, a state of over-indebtedness exists, this will tend to lead to liquidation, through the alarm either of debtors or creditors or both. Then we may deduce the following chain of consequences in nine links:
          1. Debt liquidation leads to distress selling and to
          2. Contraction of deposit currency, as bank loans are paid off, and to a slowing down of velocity of circulation. This contraction of deposits and of their velocity, precipitated by distress selling, causes
          3. A fall in the level of prices, in other words, a swelling of the dollar. Assuming, as above stated, that this fall of prices is not interfered with by reflation or otherwise, there must be
          4. A still greater fall in the net worths of business, precipitating bankruptcies and
          5. A like fall in profits, which in a capitalistic, that is, a private-profit society, leads the concerns which are running at a loss to make
          6. A reduction in output, in trade and in employment of labor. These losses, bankruptcies and unemployment, lead to
          7. pessimism and loss of confidence, which in turn lead to
          8. Hoarding and slowing down still more the velocity of circulation.
          The above eight changes cause
          9. Complicated disturbances in the rates of interest, in particular, a fall in the nominal, or money, rates and a rise in the real, or commodity, rates of interest.
          —(Fisher 1933)



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    • Author by calijohn (February 11, 2010 11:44 pm ET)
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      okay!!! now beck is getting down to brass tacks!!! let's all prepare for the coming "debt implosion" that is without a doubt obama's fault! how much exactly is our debt??? 12 trillion??? seems a conservative enough figure to not draw widespread tsking.
      here is the $64,000 question. how much of this debt did obama, the spendthrift, the wastrel, the socialist, contribute???
      let's say, just for the sake of argument, 30%.
      okay. okay. okay.
      40%.
      way high, but let's go with that percentage.
      who in the "f" is responsible for the rest of that debt???
      unfunded prescription plan maybe???
      unfunded wars maybe???
      tax cuts???
      just thinking.
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      • Author by magnolialover (February 12, 2010 9:48 am ET)
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        Actually when Obama took office, our debt was at, right around, 10 trillion. He's added 2 trillion to it, so more like, 20%.
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    • Author by MilitantMNMan (February 12, 2010 4:49 am ET)
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      I think this would have been better with a chalkboard. He could have spelled anarchy without the "c." You know, if we have to worry about "OLIGARHY" then we also have to worry about "ANARHY."
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    • Author by New Frontier (February 12, 2010 8:29 am ET)
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      Beck:

      "Grow your own food"; "take up arms"
      Persuade a right-wing media mogul to pay you millions of dollars to fear-monger about the coming "anarchy". Then buy lots of gold.
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    • Author by nerzog (February 12, 2010 8:50 am ET)
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      [http://shogun.shafted.com.au/temp/KittyScared.jpg]
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    • Author by Porkeater (February 12, 2010 10:34 am ET)
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      Hmmm... i wonder what the value of gold would be if this happened...
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    • Author by grantgre@hotmail.com (February 12, 2010 11:58 am ET)
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      I noticed that glen becks logo's are
      very scary looking. They remind me of the
      facist art of the 30's.

      Is that an accident?
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