Attention right-wing media: Colin Powell debunks claims that America is less safe under Obama
February 21, 2010 1:24 pm ET
From the February 21 edition of CBS' Face the Nation:
Please upgrade your flash player. The video for this item requires a newer version of Flash Player. If you are unable to install flash you can download a QuickTime version of the video.
god, sometimes I'm such a geek....ugh...
Irony was being sarcastic...note the winky face as your first clue.
You newbies maybe need to acquaint yourselves with the regs here before posting kneejerk reactions.
Now on topic....I'd tend to trust Colin Powell over Dick Cheney on this issue.
I see that two people have missed the irony in your ironic post. You'd think that your name or the little ;>) at the end would have given them a clue.
I think we're going to have to have full disclaimers added after our posts so as not to be mistaken for wingnuts.
DISCLAIMER: This comment is a serious comment to the ironic comment posted by IRONY101.
Oh, wait - he WAS.
By bet is on either Limbaugh or Beck. Or maybe Hannity. Or Quinn.
Echo? What echo?
Echo? What ec?
Echo? What
Echo?
Ec
...
: )
Instead, of course, people trashed him decision - many, like Rush, saying it was race-based - and now the Republican party is a bunch of know-nothing obstructionist hacks rather than a legitimate other side in the debate. This is probably Bush's worst domestic legacy, even worse than the economy and healthcare: for the first time in over a century, one of the two parties has devolved to the point of offering literally NOTHING in terms of policy or ideas. Even the post-Carter Democrats weren't in that much disarray - Mondale wasn't a great presidential candidate, but he's far more legitimate than the current GOP frontrunners.
Sure, the obstructionism and name-calling might make good short-term politics, but history will not look kindly at the past decade's GOP. They've become the worst major political party in American history - perhaps even in the history of all liberal democracies.
a rational thinking human being, would have said..man we just lost one of our most beloved figures, something is not right. instead they thought that by keeping to the path of kkkarl rove, they would win, man were they wrong. and will keep being wrong, because this kind of wedge politics only works for so long before people wake up.
maybe if powell ran for president i would be more than willing to vote for him as a republican....though i know it will never happen. kkkarl would never allow it nor his klan brother limbaugh
When people complain that we should be handing terrorists over to military commissions, we should ask why?
Is it because they think the military does not follow the rule of law and they will just line these guys up against a wall and have done?
The military has their own issues but; in general, they are way more adamant about following the rule of law than people may realize.
After a couple of hours of this, I had had enough and we switched over to CNN. Wolf Blitzer was on and he had the usual panel of CNN experts, and because they actually try to be fair and balanced for real, the experts ranged over left, right, and center. Anyway, Blitzer asked them the simple question of "why." Why were we doing this? Why Manhattan and why was there protest against it.
I was surprised by my relief in hearing this actual journalistic question. How nice it was to hear a variety of perspectives and opinions on this important subject, allowing me to make up my own mind about it.
After hours of watching Fox, not once did I hear anyone ask the basic, simple question of "Why."
He never does.
But that's all just theory, of course.
It's actually not just a theory. Powell was lied to by the CIA (who had been bullied by Cheney and Rumsfeld) and other members of the Bush Administration. He didn't know that the information he presented at the UN was false until after he presented it, which is essentially why he and Armitage resigned. The original dossier he was given was from the Vice President's office - he actually threw it away, knowing it was garbage.
Now, my theory is that Powell - always a solider - decided that the war was Bush's decision to make, and that it was his duty to help wage it. However, administration insiders reveal that he was vehemently opposed to the war, understanding its cost and stupidity, and seriously considered resigning in protest.
You should watch the CBC's "The Bush Years." It's a pretty fantastic documentary - though, like most of the history of the Bush Administration, infuriating.
When Powell said the day the WMD threat was officially announced as false was the worst day of his life, I pretty much figured there was weight to my theory. That would be the date when he was forced to accept the full reality of things.
It hasn't made my admiration of him dim. If anything, it's grown stronger because he's been so honest about things since.
"I have always been on the record, in fact, since 2003, with the concept of living our values. And I think that whenever we've perhaps taken expedient measures, they've turned around and bitten us in the backside. We decided early on, in the 101st airborne division, we just said, we decided to obey the Geneva Conventions..."
- General David Petraeus
Bobbyjindallfan's intern
Why, because their skin color?
But Steele? As far as I'm concerned, the Republicans can keep that over-stuffed sack of embarrassment.
George W. Bush's Secretary of State at the time of the attacks of September 11 2001, and one of his 'point men' in selling the American people and Congress (and the UN and the world) an invasion of IRAQ, based upon false or falsified Intelligence...
He just doesn't seem to be the gold-plated (or even sterling) authority you want on your side, or want to consult with or quote in support of anything.
The times are very bad, if we're scraping the bottom of the barrel for this guy's opinion on anything.
Also, Powell was privately vehemently opposed to the war, as indicated here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2042072.ece
There's a fair criticism in his leadership as Secy. of State - he should have made his objections public and resigned. Frankly, I think he's too much of a loyal solider to have done that, but he tried to do the right thing.
So it was Cheney and Rumsfeld that held sway over Bill & Hill and the rest of that cast of characters? Who knew they were so powerful in the '90's!
Before posting stale, false talking points, you should read the facts.
Please show me where my link was false, or stale for that matter. Credible links only please. This should be interesting...
Besides, the quotes from 1998 are a bit misleading, and entirely out of context. Remember, Clinton fired cruise missiles at Iraq and imposed harsher sanctions.
Nothing you stated or linked to was false. All of it was irrelevant.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/21/colin-powell-rejects-dick_n_470802.html
Is that why death threats against President Obama are up 400% from his predecessor?
Sounds to me like you're talking out of your ass again, humjob.
Oh, and yes... once again, your post was pathetic.
Besides trying to use urbane, gentler metaphors with him is a waste of time since he wouldn't be able to comprehend it.
Oh, and sometimes it just downright fun (and a little cathartic) to lash out with some potty humor every now ad then.
Your defense of the disastrous and very damaging Bush Administration simply because they had the right letter in the ( ) is pathetic.
yup a tea bag party and you are the teaBAGGED guest of honor...
WAAAAAAAAY to subtle.
Keep up the violent rhetoric, secret service will be with you in a moment, and no...they won't let you bring the crystal or the pipe.
"As usual the bho administration is trying to COVER-UP the possible islamo fascist terrorist possibility. The fact we're just now hearing about it is PROOF POSITIVE... Remember bho is the commander in chief of the military. Yes the same military that "conducted an extensive investigation.... pathetic "tools" hmmm....
-What he said on the thread about Ft Jackson thread
Moron
the military has absolutely no directive that requires them to disclose investigations to the public. They report to the Pentagon, the President and Congress. Do we really want to know about every investigation the military conducts? The only reason that people like you get worked up about it is because some people of middle eastern descent were involved. Period. You could care less what happened (as evidenced by your nonsensical ramblings), you just want to be able to scream terrorism for any reason and make your pathetic attempts to try to link the President to some conspiracy.
As for Maj Hasan, morons like you like to blame Obama for him, but he entered the military, was trained and was promoted while Bush was president, not Obama. You're twisted little mind can't seem to grasp that simple situation.
Moron
And you call US idiots?
Not very self-aware, are you?
Classy.
JFK wasn't a "one term wonder," he was ASSASSINATED three years after he was elected. He would have, most likely, been re-elected had he not been killed. Your analogy of JFK and Carter was false.
Whoa!! I can't believe you'd write something like that. Man, you are sick!!
I can see, you're so smart... where did you get that one from? Just LMAO... ahhh bring it on...
anarmed.... ROFLMAO!!!! and the "U" is halfway across the keyboard.... haha ROFLMAO!!!!
I know, it's just typo, you really do know how to spell ... "a war of wits" hahaha ROFLMAO!!!!! haha
Very uncool...and not funny.
Sorry for those of you who can read, I had to use pre-school term for the left-wing nutters.... anarmed... ROFLOL too much!!! thanks for the laugh leftofwhatever... haha
I use to be disgusted, now I'm just amused!! pathetic.... I love this site...
WAIT... WAIT... I got it, the hummer reads Weekly World News and thinks that JFK is alive in a nursing home (with Elvis?)
(Written before widespread 'web' commentaries e.g. blogs, thus the reference to "email messages")
You have basically made a threat to the life of our president in your false analogy.
You are a very, very stupid person. And, what's said is that you don't seem to understand how stupid you are. How very sad for you.
Looks like YOU are the one with "death threats" on your mind. Projection, clear and simple. I never said a thing about either JFK or bho getting killed... PROJECTION... typical left-wing nutter violence....
I read very well and I'm no MMFA "shill." You might learn to compose your comments a little better if you don't want to be misunderstood. You said what you said and, as written, it was a very thinly veiled threat on the life of your president. Not cool, FL . . . Dancing Queen.
And Jimmy Carter? What was so terrible about him? Oh, yeah... he urged Americans to drive more fuel efficient cars and to develop new energy technologies in order to wean ourselves off of Middle Eastern oil. Jeez... good thing that we rejected him in favor of Ronald Reagan. Another term of Carter and we might not have had the desire to invade Iraq, and where would we be then? No Middle Eastern oil might have meant no 9/11, and think of all of those poor mercenaries from Blackwater (now "xi") who would be likely out of work.
That was good.
what a left-wing nutter - go ahead pull another diversion out of your whatever!!!! pathetic... hmmm... (hummer).
Humjob, at heart, is a fascist thug.
hmmm....
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
nothing, your a gutless wonder, a coward, thats all you are and will ever be
Obviously you don't know what a racist is... pathetic.... BTW - which half am I racist against, the Caucasian half or the Negroid half??? If only you knew who YOU were calling racist... PROVES that you yourself are the racist ... PROJECTING, just like all left-wing nutters.
and NO you shouldn't make threats against the president..
OH that's REALLY funny jedi knight. You are a REAL FOOL!!!
You really are a racist pig, humjob.
And, by the way... I hope you aren't offended if we all reject your repeated offers to teabag us. (shudder) The thought of those two fuzzy little grape tomatoes that you so seem to love pointing to isn't really very appetizing. In fact, it's downright PATHETIC!!!
Now... zip up your pants, troll.
OH I forgot, this is mmfa where everything the left-wing nutters say is spin, spin and more spin.... pathetic...
You going to post a link to something you googled which refutes your claim in an attempt to prove it?
Hopefully the rest of America will hear what is being said by Powell/
Hopefully the rest of America will hear what is being said by Powell/