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Ben Stein complains that Obama is "condescen[ding] towards" those who disagree with him

February 25, 2010 2:20 pm ET

From CNN's February 25 live coverage of the health care summit:

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    • Author by nerzog (February 25, 2010 2:22 pm ET)
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      It's hard not to be condescending toward people who are being deliberately dense.
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    • Author by christopher howard (February 25, 2010 2:22 pm ET)
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      Ah, good ol' Ben ("Science leads to killing people") Stein. What would we do without his rational contributions to the national conversation?
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      • Author by fantagor (February 25, 2010 3:43 pm ET)
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        Oh, yeah, I saw enough of his evolution bashing movie to know that Ben Stein is a total hack. Religious zealots will do everything in their power to link the Nazis and Stalin's purge to evolution, but they seem to just conveniently forget that Christianity had led the charge of more than a few massacres throughout history, not to mention that Hitler was a Catholic and met with the pope.

        But on the subject of condescension: did Stein ever tune his ears into Bush's tendency start drawling when explaining his point to a reporter who'd asked him a tough unplanned question. He sounded as though he were addressing a five-year-old. But Obama's condescending for addressing people like adults and for using grownup words and proper sentence structure. That's not condescension, Ben. It's called intelligence.

        Randy
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    • Author by txthinker (February 25, 2010 2:23 pm ET)
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      And Ben Stein is a condescending imbecile. His 15 minutes of fame should have been over when his former boss - Richard Nixon - boarded that helicopter after resigning in disgrace.
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      • Author by dogbreath (February 25, 2010 2:25 pm ET)
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        Don't forget his contribution in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, "Bueller, Bueller, Bueller." Beyond that, I would say he is complete hack and WHY he is on CNN is absolutely beyond me.
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        • Author by raddave43 (February 25, 2010 2:30 pm ET)
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          If it hadn't been for that movie, his game show and those silly commercials, I wouldn't even had known who he was.
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          • Author by christopher howard (February 25, 2010 2:40 pm ET)
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            Don't forget, he also did that odious piece of anti-science crap "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed."

            http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/expelled_no_intelligence_allowed/
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            • Author by jjamele2880 (February 25, 2010 2:48 pm ET)
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              Hey, if I hadn't watched that movie, I would never have known that believing in Evolution invariably leads to the slaughter of millions of innocent people!
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            • Author by txthinker (February 25, 2010 4:45 pm ET)
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              No intelligence was used in the making of that movie...
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        • Author by angels4light (February 25, 2010 3:39 pm ET)
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          Don't forget the visine commercials.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (February 25, 2010 3:27 pm ET)
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        He also lost a job with one of the larger newspapers because of a conflict of interest when he made one of those free credit reportdotcom commercials. Ben is smart, but he's also a weasel. He sees President Obama as a threat because of his intellect. People like Ben want to be the only rooster in the barn that the hens look up to.
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    • Author by bintx (February 25, 2010 2:26 pm ET)
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      Ben Stein complaining that someone is being condescending????? Wow, that's pretty rich.
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      • Author by The New Pilgrims (February 25, 2010 2:38 pm ET)
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        So true. Remember in Ferris Bueller: "Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?"
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      • Author by coldteablues19577325 (February 25, 2010 3:05 pm ET)
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        "Ben Stein complaining that someone is being condescending????? Wow, that's pretty rich." --bintx

        Amen!

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      • Author by shaggles (February 25, 2010 4:53 pm ET)
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        That's pretty much what I was thinking.
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    • Author by The_Cat (February 25, 2010 2:32 pm ET)
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      So, enlighten me, Mr. Stein. How would you deal with someone who was telling bald faced lies? Because that's exactly what Lamar Alexander did. Tell ya what. Have some 'Clear Eyes' and shut up. Your last worthwhile project was trying to teach American History in Ferris Bueler's Day Off.
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    • Author by jediknight65 (February 25, 2010 2:41 pm ET)
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      beuller...beuller.....beuller......fry........fry........fry. like he is one to talk in that condescending monotone of his.

      ya know when he had that show win ben stein's money, i actually liked him then, he was funny and good to watch. what happened...seriously
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    • Author by soze169880 (February 25, 2010 2:44 pm ET)
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      Ben, you claim belief in evolution caused the Holocaust. Not to be too harsh, but you deserve all the condescension anyone can muster.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (February 25, 2010 2:55 pm ET)
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      Wow. I'm not sure there's ANYONE more condescending than Ben Stein! Between his hypocrisy and his stupidty, I'm not sure what value this guy actually has.

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      Bueller? Bueller?
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    • Author by juliajayne1 (February 25, 2010 3:01 pm ET)
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      Let's face it, according to these uber goobers like Stein, liberals are "condescending" whenever they're right or articulate well. Can't let THAT stand, now can they?

      I'm excerpting a really good article on so called liberal condescension from Truthout.org. It's worth a read, as this meme of liberal condescension has become the new buzzword, after exhausting "elitist". Well...I guess they still like that old saw...ha!

      Anywho....A conservative professor of politics at the University of Virginia wrote recently in a column for WaPo the question of "why are liberals so condescending?", and rebuts his own points with little gems like this one:

      "Prominent studies and journalistic accounts of right-wing politics ... stressed paranoia, intolerance and insecurity, rendering conservative thought more a psychiatric disorder than a rival.... Richard Hofstadter referred to 'the Manichaean style of thought, the apocalyptic tendencies, the love of mystification, the intolerance of compromise that are observable in the right-wing mind.'"

      http://www.truthout.org/is-liberal-intellectual-condescension-really-problem56879
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      • Author by epkklk851 (February 25, 2010 3:19 pm ET)
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        Very interesting articles. Thank you for posting the link. I also read the Washington Post editorial the embedded link in the Truthout article.
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        • Author by juliajayne1 (February 25, 2010 3:21 pm ET)
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          Thanks, I always hope somebody enjoys things like this as much as I do.
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      • Author by jeter2 (February 25, 2010 4:09 pm ET)
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        Miz Julia, that was interesting, but this caught my eye.

        From the article:

        "Of course, it is hard to get things done when "the party of no" filibusters every good idea just to stop progress so they can maybe win an election"

        Every "good" Liberal idea..,according to whom? Liberals of course. So if Libs automatically think their ideas are "good" everyone else must agree?? That's a tad condescending right there...or certainly not exactly without bias.

        Some Lib ideas stink out the joint. Could it be the so called "Party of No" might at least sometimes filibuster to stop a not so "good" Lib idea?
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        • Author by benjr (February 25, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
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          I partially agree with you there jeter, but I think that what was meant was that the good ideas, ones that really shouldn't be subject to partisan politics, are being filibustered just because it came from a Democratic politician.

          Also, I think you're right when you say that it is biased. No question there, but isn't that what you would expect by any politician?

          Some Lib ideas stink out the joint. Could it be the so called "Party of No" might at least sometimes filibuster to stop a not so "good" Lib idea?

          Absolutely. But I think when you put that idea into the context of the last year, it appears that the Republicans have tried to block every idea, not just the ones that stunk.
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    • Author by Tommy (February 25, 2010 3:05 pm ET)
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      This whole summit has been such a FUBAR moment for the dems. I love watch them with egg all over their faces.


      I love how Obama thinks he is better than everyone else.

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/02/25/obama_at_health_care_summit_i_dont_count_my_time_because_im_the_president.html
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      • Author by juliajayne1 (February 25, 2010 3:10 pm ET)
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        Ah STHU. You're not fooling anybody. Sheesh.
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        • Author by Tommy (February 25, 2010 3:19 pm ET)
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          I don't need to fool anyone. They're speaking for themselves.


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          • Author by juliajayne1 (February 25, 2010 3:24 pm ET)
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            Quit interrupting my viewing of a Nash Bridges marathon. Some respect! ;-0)
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        • Author by jeter2 (February 25, 2010 3:26 pm ET)
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          Aw Miz Julia, try to be nice. I'm happy Tommy is back. Maybe this place will finally be more than a moonbat bobbleheadfest ;-)
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          • Author by christopher howard (February 25, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
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            This site rarely lacks for right-of-center posters (some reasonably sane, and then there's BJFan). I am unaware of any right-wing sites that regularly allows for a comparable cast of lefty posters.
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          • Author by juliajayne1 (February 25, 2010 5:42 pm ET)
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            You know what I believe, shortstop? I think Right on is Tommy. However I don't think this Tommy isn't our Tommy. What I'm saying is that I think someone co-opted his name like that guy did Solon's nick. Remember that?

            Anyway, imo our Tommy was brighter and more flexible. And although I won't say that Tommy was a strict adherent of Andrew Sullivan (who thinks Obama is doing a god job), this one seems to be sticking with tired talking points.

            I could be wrong, of course. ;-0) Although it'd be the first time! Ha....;-0) Okay j/k natch.
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            • Author by eweston8542983 (February 25, 2010 7:59 pm ET)
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              I think your right JJ. A coupla other regulars have mentioned this propbable imposter. Interesting that RO doesn't wiegh in on this.
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              • Author by juliajayne1 (February 27, 2010 11:06 am ET)
                   
                Yes, I've been wondering the same. Of course that would mean he would have to out himself as the real Tommy. ;-)
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      • Author by soze169880 (February 25, 2010 3:12 pm ET)
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        You know what I love? How clearly terrified you are by the Summit of Doom, leading to all this frantic trolling on your part. Because you, like every other chest-pounding chickenhawk teabagger out there, are at heart a sniveling coward.
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        • Author by Tommy (February 25, 2010 3:20 pm ET)
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          Actually, I thought that they should have called it off. But I think it was the biggest success that the Republicans have had in a long time.

          Best idea ever.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (February 25, 2010 4:10 pm ET)
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            yes mccain and alexander getting schooled by the president and being exposed as liars is such a success for the republicans.
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        • Author by Marker (February 25, 2010 3:28 pm ET)
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          Remember too, Tommy copies other peoples work. He left MM for awhile after a poster busted him on it. Get use to his sniveling, concern trolling the whole time he's here. Ben Stein talking about the president is simply like most repugs, they don't like a black man speaking up. Racist to the core.
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          • Author by bintx (February 25, 2010 3:32 pm ET)
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            This is my first experience with Tommy [well, with that screen name, anyway]. Not impressed. The way folks were talking about him, I though he was interesting. He's not, just another faux conservative who worships at the feet of Fox/hate talk radio.
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            • Author by neon desert (February 25, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
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              This is definitely NOT the same Tommy that some of us old-timers knew. The old Tommy generally had some thoughtful (if misguided) ideas, whereas THIS Tommy is just a contrarian troll.

              Kind of sucks the low-class rep he's now giving the screenname.
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      • Author by jediknight65 (February 25, 2010 3:19 pm ET)
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        i wouldn't say better, but sure as hell a mile smarter and has already schooled lamar alexander. the gop is the one with egg on their faces because they are getting called out for what they, and yourself, invariably are. shills for rich people who don't give a crap about anyone else unless you can make money off them and screw the greater good of the country. forget the love thy neighbor part of the bible, that doesn't exist to you and the rest of your kind. you only care about how the bible comes down against gay people.
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        • Author by bintx (February 25, 2010 3:33 pm ET)
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          He got a good one in on John McCain, too.

          He's not being condescending at all, he's just calling these guys out on their lies.
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          • Author by John Paradox (February 25, 2010 6:45 pm ET)
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            Haven't been watching, (busy looking for work... after all, I'm one of those 'lazy unemployed' who spends >40 hrs/week searching for something appropriate) but I did see a clip here.

            You might also want to check out McCain's ad against Hayworth (AZ Republican Primary challenger) here
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            • Author by Bronwyn (February 25, 2010 8:44 pm ET)
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              We will send good vibes your way John. It seems to have worked for our other buds on here. When they were in your situation. Good luck to you.
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              • Author by juliajayne1 (February 25, 2010 9:36 pm ET)
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                I second that John. You're a righteous and funny guy and I hope the best for you.

                Anybody seen Snoopy?
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                • Author by Bronwyn (February 25, 2010 10:35 pm ET)
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                  I was wondering the same thing. One of the first to come to mind, when I read John's post. And you Missy are still one of my favorite posters. Even the off topic posts. Especially the off topic posts. You are one of the regulars that make it fun to come to this site.
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                  • Author by John Paradox (February 25, 2010 11:54 pm ET)
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                    Gracias to all for the good wishes. There is one job I've applied for that could lead to - well, several things that interest me. The local station that does 'Vampira' type movies lost its host for the movies, and the two reeeeeally bad hosts, and it just so happens that I am a hobbyist for 'bad movies' (anyone else heard of Space Ninja/Swords of the Space Ark?).
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                  • Author by juliajayne1 (February 26, 2010 12:18 am ET)
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                    Thanks Robyn. I usually don't have that much to contribute except for off topic posts...ha! ;-0) But girl just wanna have fun, see? ;-0) I guess you like fun too.
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                    • Author by Bronwyn (February 26, 2010 1:20 am ET)
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                      Oh yeah, but it does get me in trouble now and then. Oh well, such is life.
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    • Author by HappyHanson (February 25, 2010 3:06 pm ET)
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      "Condescending!!!"

      Ben Stein has made a TV carrier being condescending, an financial conservative intellectual that has been preaching supply-side economics, the great trickle down on all of us for his 30 year carrier by being condescending.

      Everything he has espoused, except his personal wealth espousing it, has been wrong for America's 98% to the benefit of it's wealthiest 2%. The last time we had limp minds like Steins leading America around by the nose, the times were amptly coined the Guilded Age by the late great Mark Twain.
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    • Author by HappyHanson (February 25, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
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      "Condescending!!!"

      Ben Stein has made a TV carrier being condescending, an financial conservative intellectual that has been preaching supply-side economics, the great trickle down on all of us for his 30 year carrier by being condescending.

      Everything he has espoused, except his personal wealth espousing it, has been wrong for America's 98% to the benefit of it's wealthiest 2%. The last time we had limp minds like Steins leading America around by the nose, the times were amptly coined the Guilded Age by the late great Mark Twain.
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (February 25, 2010 3:23 pm ET)
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      I don't think he's being condescending at all. I react the same way to people who think they know something but don't know a thing about what they're talking about. I give the same reaction to people who are intolerant of the rights of others and people who are close-minded. I don't suffer fools lightly, and nothing p!sses me off more than a willfully ignorant, deceptive person, and a person who takes advantage of others for personal gain.
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    • Author by Porkeater (February 25, 2010 3:29 pm ET)
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      If i were in his shoes, i wouldn't be condescending; i would be dismissive, sarcastic, hostile and autocratic. Good thing i'm not President; those GOPheads are lying and squabbling and playing politics, and everyone can see. Their feet are in their mouths and they are still chewing.
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    • Author by tman418 (February 25, 2010 11:17 pm ET)
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      Was it not condescending when Ben Stein said that Obama giving a speech in Germany is something the furher would have done?
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