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O'Reilly on Media Matters: "If I mention the word 'black,' I'm anti-black. If I mention the word 'gay' I'm a homophobe"

February 26, 2010 8:26 pm ET

From the February 26 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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    • Author by Bongo Fury (February 26, 2010 8:29 pm ET)
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      Then why mention either?
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      • Author by mari2jj (February 26, 2010 10:00 pm ET)
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        Actually this wail by Pat is just a dodge. He is a racist simply because he makes racist statements. I have heard him make only a few anti gay statements but I do not doubt that he is guilty of both problems. His hate filled language gives Rep8ublicans in our Party a very bad name. I call him out because he is a racist. He continually makes rants about our President that are outright lies and that is why he is a racist. But do not ever expect him to own up to his problems. He will face his maker with all these problems of racism and homo-phobia still right there on his un-forgiven list if he does not try to repent. Poor thing!
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        • Author by mari2jj (February 26, 2010 10:08 pm ET)
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          Eight. Take it from me Pat, you are labeled as a homophobe and a racist because you often make racist and homophobic comments. simple, The label is correct Pat. But it is not unusual for most of us to NOT see ourselves as we really are. That is the human condition. But in the end, God's standard is that we cannot hurt others with our rhetoric. In fact. to those who know to live by the rules who do not, they are in a heap of jeopardy.
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    • Author by ingemar (February 26, 2010 8:32 pm ET)
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      How classic that MMFA is so urged to post this clip anyway.
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      • Author by Reinhard (February 26, 2010 8:41 pm ET)
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        Why? O'Reilly is full of cr@p and MMFA is calling him out. Where's the problem?
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      • Author by Reinhard (February 26, 2010 8:41 pm ET)
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        Why? O'Reilly is full of cr@p and MMFA is calling him out. Where's the problem?
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      • Author by RandR (February 26, 2010 8:44 pm ET)
           
        Isn't it great how fearless MMfA is?

        Of course, it might be to show what a crybaby little Bill is.
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      • Author by aj.physics (February 26, 2010 8:54 pm ET)
           
        He is implying that he can't use those words, but it's the context that he uses them in that MMFA calls him out on. If he said
        I saw a great black car today
        , then I highly doubt that MMFA would post that. This is a clip of misinformation, very clear misinformation.
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      • Author by mescal (February 27, 2010 1:32 am ET)
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        Ingemar, what IS your native tongue?
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    • Author by juliajayne1 (February 26, 2010 8:55 pm ET)
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      If he mentions the word loofah, does that mean he's anti loofah?
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    • Author by brady (February 26, 2010 8:58 pm ET)
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      If you mention the word, intelligent, then you're an idiot.

      OK. So far, this is a fun game.
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    • Author by MagCynic (February 26, 2010 8:59 pm ET)
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      MMFA may have been started with the best of intentions but they've deviated greatly from these intentions. Most of the posts on this site can be placed into three categories:
      1. A post in which the commentator uses a metaphor but MMFA decides to take literally
      2. A collection of links to other MMFA articles containing 30-60 second clips that show a "history" of some absurd notion usually involving racism
      3. A statement of opinion that is neither a lie nor misinformation

      MMFA also makes many laughable assumptions about the viewers of conservative commentators. They assume
      1. That conservatives can't grasp metaphors and hyperbole
      2. That conservatives can't possibly think for themselves
      3. That conservatives believe in things that they don't
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      • Author by juliajayne1 (February 26, 2010 9:02 pm ET)
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        Write to MMFA if you have a truck with them and quit wasting OUR time.
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        • Author by MagCynic (February 26, 2010 9:11 pm ET)
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          I'm not wasting your time. You're wasting your time by clicking the Reply button. Nobody's forcing you to type a response to me.
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          • Author by juliajayne1 (February 26, 2010 9:24 pm ET)
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            You're a waste of time. Too true. But really son, write to the "tools" at MMFA. ;-0)
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          • Author by New Frontier (February 27, 2010 8:26 am ET)
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            Nobody's forcing you to type a response to me.
            Nobody's forcing you to read Media Matters' "laughable assumptions" ten times a day.
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      • Author by oneleft (February 26, 2010 9:06 pm ET)
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        i don't know about mmfa but you've certainly summed up the conservative commentators rather nicely. well done. well done indeed!
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      • Author by vysotsky (February 26, 2010 11:26 pm ET)
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        "MMFA may have been started with the best of intentions but they've deviated greatly from these intentions. Most of the posts on this site can be placed into three categories:
        1. A post in which the commentator uses a metaphor but MMFA decides to take literally
        2. A collection of links to other MMFA articles containing 30-60 second clips that show a "history" of some absurd notion usually involving racism
        3. A statement of opinion that is neither a lie nor misinformation"

        This post fits none of those categories. O'Reilly is simply wrong: MMFA has never criticized him for simply uttering one word. You may think that O'Reilly is simply exaggerating his charge against MMFA, but the charge that he's exaggerating is still false.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 27, 2010 12:34 am ET)
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        1. That conservatives can't grasp metaphors and hyperbole
        2. That conservatives can't possibly think for themselves
        3. That conservatives believe in things that they don't


        Your "laughable assumptions" sound like demonstrated facts to me, Mag.
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      • Author by whatIthink (February 27, 2010 12:49 am ET)
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        1. That conservatives can't grasp metaphors and hyperbole
        That's part of the problem. When Beck says something like "life isn't fair, sometimes OJ gets away with murder" his listeners know exactly why he said that and why he made that comparison. That's the problem. The conservative blowhards know their listeners know exactly what they are implying, they're just hoping (or more likely, just don't care) that the rest us will understand what they are saying as well.

        2. That conservatives can't possibly think for themselves
        They can't. They blindly follow the ramblings and rantings of their cult heros without thinking things through and disdain and ridicule any counter arguments, no matter how much supporting evidence is provided. Several cases that make that clear is the continued ignorance between what reconcilition is and what the "nuclear option" is. The fact that conservatives are conflating the two shows that they do not take the time to learn the difference between the two. It is further compounded when conservatives believe GOP politicians and conservative talk show hosts who push the myth that using reconciliation is a "power grab" and "unprecedented" despite the widespread use by the republicans themselves. If they can't or don't want to know what the underlying problems and lies are for these premises, then an accusation of not being able to think for themselves is apt.

        3. That conservatives believe in things that they don't
        If you watched the summit meeting, the one think tha stood out was that it sounded like, most likely because it's true, that the republicans where all talking from the same script, even down to the same words and sentences. This is echoed by their supporters using the same words and sentences. If conservatives can't even express, in their own words, their positions and just parrot the same talking points they hear, then that is a very strong argument in favor of them believing everything they are told.
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      • Author by New Frontier (February 27, 2010 8:45 am ET)
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        MMFA may have been started with the best of intentions but they've deviated greatly.
        One constant: It's always appealed to trolls.
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      • Author by Ruby (February 28, 2010 11:23 pm ET)
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        It is my opinion that you have sex with farm animals.

        Now, you are not allowed to take issue with that statement or challenge the factual accuracy of it because it's ONLY MY OPINION. So you can't say anything about it.
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    • Author by dimes (February 26, 2010 9:00 pm ET)
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      Wasn't it Bill O'Reilly who marveled on his show how surprised he was that a restaurant in Harlem was "no different" than any other restaurant in New York? I believe his direct quote was, "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea!'"

      And wasn't it Bill who argued that allowing gay marriage would inevitably result in the need to sanction interspecies marriage, so that humans could marry ducks and dolphins?

      Grandpa Gasbag is a little out of touch.
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      • Author by oneleft (February 26, 2010 9:08 pm ET)
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        yes it was. and i remember those saying it wasn't racist.
        "hey Marge, look at that! why, they're just like you and me! who woulda thunk it!"
        that's about as racist as you can get.
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        • Author by dirtylittlereligion (February 26, 2010 9:26 pm ET)
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          Bill just can't grasp that usually when he mentions 'black' or 'gay' he very often IS being bigoted. It's not the words that are the problem, it's most certainly the context he was using them in.
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (February 26, 2010 9:40 pm ET)
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            Bills actually gotten a few minor kudoes here recently. I guess he didn't notice.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 27, 2010 12:42 am ET)
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            It's not the words that are the problem, it's most certainly the context he was using them in.


            The reasoning here is sort of similar to the Climate Change Denial Cultists'. They try to point to a snowstorm in December as proving that GW is a hoax. When it's explained that this weather is completely consistent with the reality of GW, they start squawking that " I guess everything proves Global warming".

            BilldO makes bigoted remarks, but thinks anytime he says "gay" or "black" in a context that's not derogatory, that makes him not a bigot. Then his little lizard brain tells him that he's called a bigot any time he says these words.
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        • Author by Snicker (February 27, 2010 7:42 am ET)
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          I'm sorry, your concept of what's racism seems just a little absurd. Pointing out that someone of another race is just like you is just an indictment of the concept of racial diversity. See if you can follow the logic.

          Either:

          1. Different races are just the same as everyone else and don't bring anything extra, they're completely interchangeable with any other race and thus the concept of diversity is a sham. Any criticism of anyone of a different race is a criticism of them as a person and not because of their race because really "they're just like us".

          OR

          2. Different races ARE different and bring much needed diversity, pointing out their differences isn't racism and in fact justifies diversity programs. Given that every race is different any criticism of a certain race is completely justified because you're just pointing out a difference and expressing an opinion on its worth.

          Please people, pick a side and stick with it. You can't reasonably ask people to believe that the races are different and bring diversity while at the same time expect that those differences will never be criticized. Remember "different" does not necessarily equal "good". They're two different words for a reason.
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          • Author by dimes (February 27, 2010 12:23 pm ET)
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            Bill expressed surprise that black people aren't profane heathens. He was taken aback to find that black diners observe the same societal norms as the white people he usually dines among.

            I wouldn't have been surprised if O'Reilly had continued sharing his newfound knowledge by exclaiming that no one had a bone through their nose, and who'da thunkit?

            Give me a break. Not only is O'Reilly a racist, he's ignorant.
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    • Author by dmhack (February 26, 2010 10:01 pm ET)
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      HillBilly is simply a scared white man unsure of his sexuality.

      Oh, and MagCynic... you're still a twit.
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (February 26, 2010 10:23 pm ET)
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      It is the things you say before and after those words.
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    • Author by Russ139 (February 26, 2010 10:28 pm ET)
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      Glad to see that Bilbo keeps up with MMFA. Hi Bill!

      I hope McCain eats that phone baloney radio head for lunch. That guy is pure swill.
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    • Author by tman418 (February 27, 2010 3:21 am ET)
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      Other than telling a gay kid to shut about his sexuality, I don't remember on the top of my head anything you said, Bill, about gays or homosexuality in general.

      What I do remember is that when you talk about "people" who are "black", you are suprised that they can eat with a fork and knife and not scream "More ice-tea, em-effer"

      The context in which you use the words "black" and "gay" are what we judge you with, Mr. O'Reilly.
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