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Beck agrees with caller who says "Marx and Hitler and Mussolini" were "modern-day forms of democracy"

March 04, 2010 10:45 am ET

From the March 4 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

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Glenn Beck defines "a democracy": "Two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch"

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    • Author by AB-001 (March 04, 2010 10:51 am ET)
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      What? Hello? Lights on but nobody home?

      Beck is stirring up some very scary forces. We can write him off as a loon, but he's a loon who can sell a lot of books, maintain a radio show and television show, and get crowds at "patriotic" events. At some point or other, the joke is over and the danger in his propaganda must be taken seriously
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (March 04, 2010 10:54 am ET)
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        Let him get fixated on trashing democracy and see where that leads. How many of his followeres will be able to grasp his convoluted argument. Beck is going to end up alienating many on the right wing because his rants are beginning to sound unpatriotic and just as far out as what he claims is progressivism.
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    • Author by The_Cat (March 04, 2010 10:54 am ET)
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      Glenn Beck has now declared publicly that there are at least four things he does not understand: Marx, Hitler, Mussolini, and democracy.

      Way to go, Glenn! You've opened your mouth, and proven yourself a fool.
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      • Author by bintx (March 04, 2010 10:58 am ET)
           
        I'm sure Mag will be here soon to explain that we are misinterpreting what Beck was saying.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 04, 2010 10:54 am ET)
         
      probably the same caller who yelled " we love you Glenn " at the CPAC
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 04, 2010 10:57 am ET)
         
      REPUBLICAN PARTY DICTIONARY democracy- communism,facism,all words mean the same if you are lying or do not know what you are talking about
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    • Author by blueline99 (March 04, 2010 10:59 am ET)
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      To quote the movie "The American President"

      PRESIDENT SHEPHERD
      I've been operating under the
      assumption that the reason Bob (or Beck)
      devotes so much time and energy to
      shouting at the rain was that he simply
      didn't get it. Well, I was wrong.
      Bob's problem isn't that he doesn't
      get it. Bob's problem is that he
      can't sell it.

      Glenn Beck is a charlatan trying to sell his wares through misdirection, blatant lies, and mostly fear.

      What is he selling you may ask? Himself... he's selling his value as an important voice of the people in order to make money. He has no interest in the betterment of America, only himself.

      Beck is just after the good gig and right now this is it.
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    • Author by dmhack (March 04, 2010 11:08 am ET)
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      This guy is so stupid, toddlers laugh.
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    • Author by everettbme (March 04, 2010 11:10 am ET)
         
      If we were to put a "Glenn Beck" spin on this, we would see something like this:

      Beck agrees with caller who says "Marx and Hitler and Mussolini" were "modern-day forms of conservative talk radio."
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    • Author by cst (March 04, 2010 11:11 am ET)
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      I'll be very interested in seeing who defends this...
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    • Author by MidnightWriter (March 04, 2010 11:28 am ET)
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      Oh my, should be take a look at history?

      In 1932 Germany elected Hindenburg as their president with 53% of the vote. Hitler finished second with about 37%.

      After those elections Hitler and the National Socialist Party started having a lot of rallies that attracted many, many disenchanted voters. He spoke to crowds of 60,000, 100,000, even as many as 120,000 speaking on topics such as failures of the system, and corruption within the government.

      At the next election the Nazis picked up a significant number of seats in the Reichstag. Not enough for a majority, but enough to bring the government to a gridlock. Frustrated by the inability to get things done, Kurt von Schleicher resigned from his position as chancellor and Hitler was appointed in his place.

      Shortly after that there was the Reichstag fire. Communists were blamed. Hitler persuaded Hindenburg to suspend a long list of civil liberties. Hitler then called upon Hindenburg to step aside and delegate his powers to him. When critics denounced him for this he forcefully responded, "Germany will be free, but not through you!" Weeks later he was given power to act freely beyond the German constitution and legislative body.

      So, you have a member of a minority party, who lost an election rather convincingly, who then held many popular, though Mad Hatteris parties, that allowed him to slip into power. He then used a crisis to gain even more power.

      Now, Glenn, you tell me what modern day events all of that seems all too similar to.
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    • Author by ojnabieoot (March 04, 2010 11:29 am ET)
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      Okay, if you don't know a lot of history, it might seem that the caller is making a good point. I could see how a listener might think that Hitler and Mussolini came to power due to a big swell of public support, and if this were true, the caller could be getting somewhere.

      But, naturally, it's not true. Mussolini came to power via a coup d'etat, supported by the far-right, wealthy capitalists, and the military. He eventually did become admired by the public, but only after violently suppressing opposition parties and beginning a massive propaganda campaign. Hitler was a bit more popular before he became head-of-state than Mussolini, but the Nazis never had a majority until after Hitler became the Fuhrer. Marx, of course, was a philosopher who was at the very worst misguided, and had nothing to do with totalitarianism.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (March 04, 2010 11:53 am ET)
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        Marx was not a totalitarian you are correct. Misguided hardly! People who usually say that have not studied Capital.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (March 04, 2010 11:36 am ET)
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      I used to teach that the United States was a democratic republic. We chose our representatives by popular vote and they passed laws in our names. Direct democracy, which is one person one vote can be noisy and because everyone must be there and they must have their say. It is do-able with a few people, or even a few hundred people, but not do-able with tens of thousands and up. I don't understand why he has taken to trashing the thought and idea of democracy. What is he trying to do here? And why is he comparing democracy to authoritarian regimes?
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      • Author by congero6189599 (March 04, 2010 11:56 am ET)
           
        I don't understand why he has taken to trashing the thought and idea of democracy. What is he trying to do here? And why is he comparing democracy to authoritarian regimes? ---epkklk851

        The question of the day.
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        • Author by dkylep (March 04, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
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          It's all about power. He wants it. As much as we all like to deride Beck about being a moron, he is in at least one respect quite a devious and clever man: he knows how to appeal to the 'average' idiot. He knows how to stoke fear and hatred. He knows how to show people that it isn't their fault their life sucks and they're unhappy, but instead it's the fault of "insert name here" (usually 'liberals' or 'progressives')

          He speaks to the ignorant. To the uneducated. To the people who think that they deserve everything without having to work for it, and that it's their right to take whatever they please from whomever they wish it from. This is his audience and they're a very dangerous group of people, because they honestly believe what he spews.

          The short answer to your question of the day? If you're familiar with Milton then you know the answer. Better to rule over the rubble of humanity and society than serve in its growing better over time.
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          • Author by bintx (March 04, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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            Yep . . . that's how the dictators he mentions every day did it. They played on the fears, biases and bigotry of the people they wanted to control. They gave them someone to hate, someone to blame for their woes. They repeated the same lies day after day after day until they got those folks believing the crap they were shoveling.

            That's why Beck and his ilk are so very dangerous to our country.
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          • Author by epkklk851 (March 04, 2010 12:57 pm ET)
               
            "Better to rule over the rubble of humanity and society than serve in its growing better over time."

            That's my worry. I agree with everything you said. I am concerned that he is trying to build a power base that will sweep him in. I don't think he wants to govern or legislate, he just wants to hold everyone in his power. For all his talk of freedom, he really is all about control. He wants to remake the world in his vision, and he is very good at selling his vision to a very dangerous group of people. I'm trying to figure out the form he is pushing for and where he wants to go.
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    • Author by HappyHanson (March 04, 2010 11:44 am ET)
         
      What Democracy existed in Europe, or the known world in the 16th Century before America?

      Karl Marx was an author, intellectual, economist, philosopher. He was never a politician. He never held any office, or elected office, of govenment position in his whole life. He was a Jew in Germany and rose to the heights he could, in education. An intellectual, but never lead so much as a parade of drunks.

      I don't think Glenn actually ever read "Das Kapital" or "Mein Kampf" and stil sees these issues through an prism meant to focus attention to his continued broadcast, and little else.
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    • Author by What Happened to Gannon (March 04, 2010 12:06 pm ET)
         
      ...and my brother listens to this idiot (shakes head)
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    • Author by worrierking (March 04, 2010 12:12 pm ET)
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      As a lifelong Marxist, I always think of Beck when I hear this quote of his:

      "Now there's a man with an open mind, you can feel the breeze from here."

      -Julius Marx
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      • Author by cst (March 04, 2010 2:48 pm ET)
           
        Well, Lord Julius knew how politics REALLY work (and I will thumbs up anyone who gets THAT reference...)
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    • Author by cst (March 04, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
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      Seriously, who's going to defend this? Seahawk? Kdork? BJFan? Where are you?
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      • Author by worrierking (March 04, 2010 12:48 pm ET)
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        Where are they?

        Drooling over their radios, listening to the voices of reason (treason) Limbaugh and Beck.
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      • Author by bintx (March 04, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
           
        MagCynic will eventually appear.
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        • Author by cst (March 04, 2010 5:33 pm ET)
             
          He won't. I asked him on another thread, and he firmly refused to defend it...or criticize it.
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          • Author by Logan (March 04, 2010 11:09 pm ET)
               
            I'm surprised he didn't play his other card...

            "I don't remember saying it" / "Direct me to the thread where I said that"
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