Beck tells audience to "sell a car if you have to" to get kids out of public school "or our republic will be lost"
March 05, 2010 6:00 pm ET
From the March 5 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:
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Take into consideration that it was created before modern science and had adopted elements from numerous other religions, and you can get the fuller picture...
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It's worth noting that the only other places where creationism exists in well-educated communities are among Islamic fundamentalists. (though not the violent extremists in general, just the more-or-less peaceful "Qu'ran thumpers") I love the United States and American culture - despite currently living in Canada - but as a nation we're awfully weird in some aspects.
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In Washington, DC, public schools cost $14,000 per student per year, but a $7,500 voucher gets kids into the same school Obama's kids are going to. US Gov was experimenting with these vouchers and results showed the program an unqualified success. Obama shut the voucher program down. That is because he is beholden to unions and unions control public education. That is why public education has gone so far downhill and in Washington, DC the public schools are the worst in the entire nation.
I'm sorry; private school -- where a tuition is paid -- is not, and never will be, "cheaper" than a public school -- where no tuition is paid.
Plus, a $7500 voucher may get you into some private school, but most certainly NOT Sidwell Friends, the private school the Obama children attend, where tuition for the current academic year is in the $30,000 range.
Nice try.
Also, the schools in Texas are not controlled by unions in the least. My brother and SIL are both teachers . . . neither belong to a union nor do any of the teachers that I just sat in a Sunday School class with for the last hour. They were all breathing sighs of relief that the ridiculous TAKS tests were over. Their jobs depend upon their children passing these tests. The government has stripped away the teachers' abilities to teach their subjects; they spend a semester teaching the kids how to pass these stupid government-mandated tests.
Try learning and quit spewing false talking points; they make you look like you are full of crap.
I will say, though, if you think he's bad now, wait until he starts spewing David Barton's crap. Barton's like Beck. If he can't find a "Founding Father's" quote to back up his nonsense, he just makes one up.
My oldest went to Ohio State's ATI branch campus. She was very popular on campus, walking around with her was amazing because about every 5 feet someone would say "Hi Rachel". She was pretty friendly with some of her instructors too. One day she was eating lunch at a table with two instructors who knew her and one who didn't. The conversation turned to homeschooling because a local paper had just done a sensationalized article about it. The teacher who didn't know her said, "Yeah, they may learn all the academics, but I wonder how they will ever cope socially?" One of the the other instructors responded, "I don't know why don't you ask her?" and pointed to Rachel.
Now, granted she is nothing like normal - she is self-confident, friendly, helpful intelligent and kind. Not typical at all. But the point is, that instructor could not tell that she was homeschooled because she is perfectly capable of relating to others around her.
I love typos like that!
But actually, it's laptop with a K and H key that I have to press with extra force to get it to register.
Gee, got many tickets on yourself and your "special" child? I hate to break it to you but those traits are not extraordinary, in fact most kids are like that
Maybe I read you wrong, but from where I stand, your attitude comes off as patronizing & self-important.
And sodium, in my experience those traits are not the norm. Oh sure there are other kids and young adults (hell, people in general for that matter) who have them, but there are many, many more who are self-absorbed, willfully ignorant, mean spirited and insecure. That is what our culture has become and it is very sad.
aj.physics - it's not as hard as you think. A lot depends on the temperament of the child. My girls, I pretty much could just leave some books lying around and that was all I had to do. Their natural love of learning took over from there. My son was more of a challenge, he needed some structure. But for that, if you can't do it on your own, there are prepackaged curricula that you can buy.
In general, I believe the problem with our schools is that we are trying to homogenize the population. And if public school is not working for you, a private school may not be any better because they both offer the same format of education. We need to start seeing more variety, more individualized education if we want anything to get better.
MOST parents are proud of their kids.
by rumpleteasermom :" And sodium, in my experience those traits are not the norm. "
Then you must lead a very sheltered existence. My kids' schools are chock full of bright, happy, inquisitive, smart, polite, helpful kids. I feel sad for you that your life seems to revolve around misery and pessimism.
rumpleteasermom:"Oh sure there are other kids and young adults who have them"
How condescending.
I stand by my initial post, ie. your attitude comes off as patronizing & self-important.
Sure, and most parents are proud of their kids.
I simply find it offensive that the OP smugly smears other people's children as sub-normal, as lacking confidence, unfriendly , unhelpful, stupid and cruel( her words, not mine).
Now if you don't find that offensive, then you and I must come from different planets.
Case in point, those were NOT my words. It was quite easy to go up a message and cut and paste my words:
self-absorbed, willfully ignorant, mean spirited and insecure. And, if you go back and read, you will see that at that point I had expanded and was talking about people in general.
But, hey, if you think the Glenn Beck culture is not any of those things, you go right on being happy with the way things are.
Those parents use world travel, multiple tutors, museum & library programs to teach their children about the world, not segregate them from it.
Also, private schools & home schoolers have to prove that their children (with standardized tests) know the provincial public school curriculum in order to diplomas, so they will be tested on things like evolution. They can tell them that it is wrong and godless, but they have to tell them about it. Same with sex ed in Ontario Catholic schools. (But that's kind of a different animal.)
So much of the homeschooling community in the US couldn't afford homeschooling the way most people I know do it.
Actually, a lot of homeschoolers in America spend a lot on all those things you listed too.
But you are right. A lot of others have found less expensive ways to do it; opening it up to the whole population instead of just the wealthy few. For example, if one were to buy a membership in certain science centers, museums or zoos, one can visit a couple of hundred different science centers, museums or zoos across the country. Like these: ASTC AZA
Another example, when my girls were teens a group of us got together and contracted with a small local college to teach bio and chem lab classes for our kids. Because we shared the cost of the instructor an supplies, it was possible for all of us to afford it.
Good job Beck for creating a new generation of welfare recipients...
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Glenn Beck, financial advisor.
Soon he'l be telling people to knock over a liquor store to come up with money for private school tuition.
While a private school does provide many perks, each public school corporation is different, so therefore it varies quite dramatically wherever you go. Some public schools are run similar to that of private schools, and at the polar end of the spectrum, there are some systems who are just in it for the money, not the real education of children.
You can't throw all public schools in one giant pool and say they're all the same. That's like saying apples, oranges, strawberries, and bananas are the same just because they're all fruits.
I really don't want anyone to think I'm bashing homeschooling, because I've seen cases where it was very well done. But it makes me shudder just thinking about some of the people, the ones that I hear calling Beck's program or watching his show, being solely responsible for their children's education.
After eighth grade all of my friends went on to the Catholic, all-girls school in my city. My older brother had just graduated from the top-performing public high school in the city and my parents and I decided that I could get an equally good education from there for free, so I went. When everyone found out that I had turned down admission from St. Joseph's to attend a public high school, it caused a bit of a stir. Some of my friends' parents didn't want their kids hanging out with me anymore, afraid that my new "public school friends" would corrupt their children. It was bizarre. The year I graduated from high school, my class had 26 national merrit scholars (including myself :), compared to St. Joseph's 2. I went on to attend honors college at the local university with several of my former classmates, whose parents had paid thousands for their private education.
In high school I used to babysit for a family who had a young daughter attending the private school I went to. Her mother also happened to be the nurse at my high school. One day she was driving me home from babysitting and she said, "It's just that the kids at your school are all so different. And it's almost like the school encourages it." Even at 15, I was totally blown away by that comment.