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Bernie Goldberg: What if the DOJ hired "lawyers who had gone out of their way to defend members" of KKK?

March 08, 2010 9:24 pm ET

Bill O'Reilly replies: "That's a very, very good analogy. That's an excellent analogy."  

From the March 8 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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Previously:

Politico: Conservative lawyers criticize attacks on DOJ lawyers

Wash. Post's Thiessen takes attacks on DOJ lawyers -- which Post condemned -- to another level

Fox continues "shameful" attacks on DOJ lawyers who defended terror suspects

Memo to right-wing media: Bush DOJ lawyers also represented terror suspects

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    • Author by Bad News (March 08, 2010 9:28 pm ET)
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      Well "Bill-O the Clown" goes Hollywood, "Book-em Danno"
      Bill O'Reilly, He's almost as Honest as Tony Soprano.
      "I Did Not Have Sexual Relations With That Woman"
      Andrea Mackris may beg to differ Bill-O, based on a phone call where you acted a little less than human.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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      • Author by Bad News (March 08, 2010 9:46 pm ET)
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        Hannah Giles, you make my job so Easy.
        I want to thank you for being so Sleazy.
        That outfit you wore the Skirt was Short & Cheesy.
        You were almost naked & that day was more than a little Breezy.

        Speak truth to power.


        Mr. News
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    • Author by PremisedPerfect (March 08, 2010 9:42 pm ET)
         
      That is intended to make liberals uncomfortable. In point of fact, the ACLU has routinely defended the constitutional rights of right wing whack jobs including the KKK. I would welcome the service of those lawyers at DOJ.

      The same principle applies. Good lawyers take on unpopular causes. It is at the core of our system of justice.
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    • Author by coastingonthecoast (March 08, 2010 9:45 pm ET)
         
      I'm sure the conservatives wouldn't have a problem with the fact that they defended American born terrorists (KKK) like they have a problem with defending Arab born terrorists.
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    • Author by carlileb5935 (March 08, 2010 9:47 pm ET)
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      "That's a very, very good analogy. That's an excellent analogy."

      It is a good analogy, and they have!

      For one, there's been lots of former ACLU people on board who have done just that, let alone those attorneys from big name pro-bono firms. And we have one SCOTUS justice who's been on the ACLU as well.
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      • Author by the Grey Path (March 08, 2010 11:24 pm ET)
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        Like the Jewish lawyers that defended the Illinois Nazi Party in the Skokie case? (see The Blues Brothers).
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    • Author by 4teepee (March 08, 2010 9:54 pm ET)
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      Defending the rights of those who may be falsely accused is a good thing.

      Furthermore, war criminals Bush and Cheney have had lawyers.
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    • Author by dimes (March 08, 2010 9:58 pm ET)
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      Are these two suggesting that Federal public defenders don't represent white supremacists?

      Bill, Bernie, check out this new thing called the Google.

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    • Author by WoodstockNation1969 (March 08, 2010 9:58 pm ET)
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      I am sorry that I go off TOPIC:
      When Bernie Goldberg attack Hollywood for not doing enough for the family of the Movie " The Blind Side" ... He really got under my skin.
      1. A MOVIE was made about the story.. a million people have seen the true life story!
      2. The Movie was in the running for best Film or 2009!
      3. Sandra Bullock won as Best Female Actor of 2009!
      4. Sandra Bullock phrased the Family in her exceptance speech!
      5. It is my belief that the Academy flew the Family to LA and gave them a great place to stay and wonderful seats !
      HOLLYWOOD did NOTHING for the FAMILY in "THE BLIND SIDE"
      BULL!
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    • Author by zamfir273114 (March 08, 2010 10:05 pm ET)
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      Anybody and everybody should have the right to adequate representation. Skinheads, terrorists, KKK, Black Panthers, Crips, Bloods, Mafia bosses...EVERYBODY.
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    • Author by Dem02020 (March 08, 2010 10:10 pm ET)
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      "That's a very very good analogy, that's an excellent analogy".

      Here's another analogy.

      Let's say that three thousand Americans were lynched in a single morning (and lynched means murdered), and then let's say that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, in an attempt to pretend to get justice for those lynchings, they tell Americans (who are furious at those three thousand murders, and want justice), Bush and Cheney tell the American people...

      "The KKK did it! Let's saddle up the military, hundreds of thousands strong, and the cost be damned, the more expensive the better, and let's invade IRAQ and Afghanistan! Let's go get them there so that we don't have to get them here! The KKK in IRAQ and Afghanistan, let's invade with the U.S. Armed Forces!"

      You know, if it was that way and that analogy were true, and in their pretense of justice for the three thousand murders, Bush and Cheney then said...

      "We got them, we got the KKK leaders! We have the Ace of Spades and the Number One and Number Two guy and so on, we have the 'mastermind' of the lynchings... we have them tucked away in CUBA for cripes sake, at Gitmo!"

      People like me would want to know, are these various jerks and idiots that you've rounded up in early morning raids, raids in Afghanistan mostly, these toothless idiots who didn't have the money or family connections or friends to get themselves released from custody, and wound up in CUBA for cripes sake, are they the KKK, are they the ones?

      Did they have anything at all to do with the three thousand murders on September 11 2001?

      Because I think George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are liars, I don't think they got justice for September 11 2001, I don't think they got a single co-conspirator in those attacks, I think they just took these various morons and bums to CUBA and then lied to us, and pretended they solved the crime of the three thousand murders and got justice for them.

      Only a public hearing in the matter can close the case, or expose the lie.

      Who gives a crap about these CUBA bums, it's about cloture, it's about the truth, it's about airing this matter in open Court, in a public hearing...

      That's the analogy, and that's what they're all so afraid of, that once the facts are aired in public, in Court, the American people will know that none of these CUBA idiots had anything at all to do with the three thousand murders on September 11 2001...

      It wasn't the KKK in IRAQ or Afghanistan, it was George W. Bush's "good friends" and business partners the saudi ruling family, they did it, and only a public hearing in the matter can expose that...

      That's what they're afraid of, and that's why they oppose these trials.

      "That's a very very good analogy, that's an excellent analogy".
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      • Author by zamfir273114 (March 08, 2010 10:37 pm ET)
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        I happen to agree with you. I wish Bush and Cheney were capable of being prosecuted and had to defend themselves in a court of law. That would be very entertaining.
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        • Author by leftofwhat (March 08, 2010 11:40 pm ET)
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          The KKK took my baby away from me.C'mon Goldberg,walk away from the darkness.
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 09, 2010 12:08 am ET)
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        And the bush cheney mess has increased the KKK's presence in the USA military.Because of personell shortages many with known connections to such groups have been willingly accepted in the USA military.There have been incidents where military lawers defend them the same as they would any soldier.
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      • Author by mookie von zipper (March 09, 2010 3:26 pm ET)
           

        "The KKK did it! Let's saddle up the military, hundreds of thousands strong, and the cost be damned, the more expensive the better, and let's invade IRAQ and Afghanistan! Let's go get them there so that we don't have to get them here! The KKK in IRAQ and Afghanistan, let's invade with the U.S. Armed Forces!"
        i suspect the dems in the house and senate at the time would have been smart enough not to go along with dubya and darth in this analogy, particularly those on the intelligence committees...but, then again(?)...

        People like me would want to know, are these various jerks and idiots that you've rounded up in early morning raids, raids in Afghanistan mostly, these toothless idiots who didn't have the money or family connections or friends to get themselves released from custody, and wound up in CUBA for cripes sake, are they the KKK, are they the ones?
        of all the gitmo detainees, only 5 are being tried for the attacks, or as you describe it, the crime of 9-11, including the self-confessed mastermind...

        Because I think George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are liars. Only a public hearing in the matter can close the case, or expose the lie.
        well, hell, of course they're liars... but the aclu will prove nothing other than war with iraq was a done deal long before bush took office, if they dare pursue that route...

        That's the analogy, and that's what they're all so afraid of, that once the facts are aired in public, in Court, the American people will know that none of these CUBA idiots had anything at all to do with the three thousand murders on September 11 2001...
        america already knows this... who would have you believe otherwise?... are you confusing the so-called war on terror in general with the response to the specific attacks of 9-11?

        It wasn't the KKK in IRAQ or Afghanistan, it was George W. Bush's "good friends" and business partners the saudi ruling family, they did it, and only a public hearing in the matter can expose that...
        this would be great, not enough conservatives realize how cozy the bush's and bin laden's were...

        not a good analogy, but some fair points nonetheless...


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    • Author by ProgLib (March 09, 2010 1:55 am ET)
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      If we want to find out if a member of the KKK is guilty or innocent of something, we have lawyers representing them, regardless of how vile they are. Terrorists are vile and complete cowards... but the law is the law. They are charged with a crime IN the United States, so we take them to court and find out if they really did it. If the crime occurred in Pakistan, the Pakistani court system handles it. I don't understand what conservatives don't understand about this simple concept. It's in the Constitution.

      All that is obvious is that they hate the fact that terrorists, especially Muslim terrorists, are being represented by lawyers. What if the guy that flew the plane into the IRS building and the guy who shot up the guards near the pentagon are represented by lawyers? Are we going to hear the same complaints from the conservatives? Of course not... because these people don't have turbans on their heads with long beards looking like Osama Bin Laden. Could it be a race issue? Nooo, never.

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    • Author by nerzog (March 09, 2010 8:43 am ET)
         
      Poor Bernie. He's such an angry putz.
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    • Author by mookie von zipper (March 09, 2010 10:21 am ET)
         
      from the people-hear-what-they-want-to-hear dept:

      why can no one see the point o'reilly is making here?... he nor goldberg are suggesting that even the lowest breed of human debris do not deserve legal representation in this country... they are merely asking what these hirees are now doing in the obama administration... the analogy is excellent because if bush had hired lawyers who defended klansmen or nazis does any one here really believe there wouldn't be a peep from the likes of the new york times and media matters?...

      reporting from murderland ranch,
      i'm mookie von zipper
      massmurdermedia

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    • Author by MR Jensee (March 09, 2010 10:21 am ET)
         
      Positive spin stops here.
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