Beck: "[T]hey are going to try to separate me from you, and they will do it with lies"

As Major Tom pointed out, since they are his own words he may be right to characterize them as lies.

It's sad, and unfortunately many will probably listen to him and continue to go back. It's a delicate situation to try to convince the abused that the person they love is abusing them. Maybe this is the shock they need.

Pfft.....reality is so pesky after all.

He's done them a favor, see?

Glenn's knocked down that 4th wall

And cloaked them in his insanity.

About to?

I was thinking pretty much the same thing - Koresh, Jones... Beck... He fits right in, doesn't he? Whatever happened to Jones Town - was it sold off? Beck could go there... start his own refurb project... mix up a big batch of refreshing kool aid for the masses ("his base")... it'll be awesome!

You would think - being a "bleeding heart liberal", as I am often accused of being, I would feel more charitable and sympathetic towards Mr. Beck.

But I don't.

He means freebase.

Hmmmn, you may have hit on something there.

Hitler originally wanted to name his book "Four and a Half Years (of Struggle) Against Lies, Stupidity and Cowardice. Ultimately, the brevity and "elegance" of Mein Kampf was adopted by his publisher.

Separation of church and pate.

Glenn when you Lie , your Ratings Grow not your nose! The Cricket lives in your HEAD!

...because churches aren't government entities?

Because he said he was talking about churches.

Are we supposed to read his mind and when Beck says "church", think Oh that's a code word and replace it with "government"?

Has anyone made a code word cheat sheet for those of us who misplaced our super secret decoder rings years ago?

Are you trying to convince us or yourself?

Well, because he specifically said he was talking about churches, Mag. He said nothing about "the government" until he started getting feedback from Christians who were offended with his ridiculous words.

Really, Mag, see someone about this obsessive need to defend this jerk.

He very explicitly told people to leave their churches. The quote has been posted for you before. Do we have to repost it for you EVERY SINGLE TIME? (Because I'm willing to do that...)

I was wondering when you were going to show up and pledge your eternal love and devotion, "no matter what they say."

I wonder- are you a lovesick teenager or the classic abused spouse? "I don't care what you say about him, the more evidence that you show me that he's a lunatic, the more I love him?" or "You just never see him when he isn't drunk or tired or suffering from bouts of paranoid delusion. He's really wonderful to me then."

Either way, do you have any idea how sad you sound?

OMG, watching you defend this guy is getting more and more comical by the moment.

MagCynic, I don't disagree with you insomuch as Beck thinks that social justice inherently implies big government. But I think he's wrong. If you think that establishing a living wage (the classic example of social justice as advocated by Monsignor John Ryan) is an example of an intrusive, overbearing, totalitarian-leaning big government, then so be it. Beck sides with the Austrian economic school and Hayek's rejection of social justice, and he's perfectly free to do so. Churches that disagree with him are free to do so as well.

None of this, however, counters the fact that Beck explicitly advocated to his listeners that they should abandon any church -- whether it's Reverend Wright's church or Beck's own church -- that supports social justice.

"People lie about him all the time. They put words in his mouth and twist what he says around to fit their own agenda against him."

Do you think what I just wrote is a lie?

Who is "they"???????

Well, let me get out my blackboard and I'll figure this out. OK, so Beck is responding to those who criticized his attack on churches that support social justice. Social justice is a concept developed by a Jesuit and elaborated upon famously by a Roman Catholic, but the concept is also commonly associated Judaism and its principles of tzedakah (the obligation of charity and philanthropy) and tikkun olam (the work of repairing the world). Now, Beck argues that Social Justice will end in Communism, and he's especially concerned with Communism as theorized by Karl Marx... who was Jewish! So, by Beckian logic, Beck's talking about the Jews, who control the media and spread lies in order to fatten their wallets through their control of the Federal Reserve. Now, of course, I'm not actually saying that this is what Beck believes. I'm just one person with a chalkboard who is asking questions. Right?

You're witnessing the birth of a God-complex.

Now this is a dilemma. Since there can be only one true God, which one must we choose? Limbaugh, Beck, or....God? What to believe? Pantheism or monotheism or atheism? What is the answer? TGIF may be my salvation.

Think there's a, ho ho, in there somewhere too.
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