Beck: If "you're on government assistance," the government "ha[s] every right" to regulate your life
Beck also equates people "on government assistance" with "slavery"
From the March 12 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
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Previously:
Beck: "The government's irresponsible spending is turning us into slaves"
Beck says he can "make a case" Rathke brothers are "enslaving people through ACORN"
Tax deduction change latest Obama proposal Beck claims "involves enslaving people"
Beck: "You know what this president is doing right now? He is addicting this country to heroin-the heroin that is government slavery."
Beck says of stimulus package: "It is slavery"
Beck again compares recovery bill to slavery
Does Glenn Beck support the slave trade or is he just an "idiot"?
Yes, I understand that some people need assistance, maybe even MOST people, BUT requiring them to "look for a job" is a reasonable expectation....
Medicare and Social Security are NOT government "assistance" these are BOTH paid, by force, by employees and employers.
This is to say nothing of all the illegal aliens who come here solely to mooch off Americans. I am sick and tired of it.
2) I serve my country by paying obscene confiscatory tax rates.
3) I serve my country by voting for right-wing conservative candidates.
I have some horrifying news for you. My college roommate is running for Congress - his challenger in teh primary dropped out yesterday, so now he is the GOP nominee.
He is to the Right of me. He thinks I am a raving liberal because I oppose capital punishment.
And as if you didn't have enough loathsome qualities, it turns out you're a starf____er too.
Guess you need to change your screenname, PJ fan.
Hm, your choices are two people currently unemployed {Willard and Sarah}, and a junior senator {Thune.}
What's that complaint you wingnuts keep making about President Obama?
Oh yeah -- "he hasn't got enough experience" . . .
I don't believe in entitlement AT ALL. I believe in working hard. I am entitled to NOTHING. I have EARNED everything I have and you liberals are trying to take it away through confiscatory taxation.
I do not worship money - I worship Christ. Money is at the very bottom of my priotities - I merely don't think that you have the right to take what is mine. I care deeply about my fellow man - I just don't be leave in FORCED commpassion - it should be VOLUNTARY.
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You're a fraud.
And don't let Republicans fool you into thinking that they don't want people here illegally. They do, and there are a couple of reasons for that. First, it is a large and abusable labor pool willing to work for less than the much hated and reviled minimum wage. Second, this large pool of cheap labor is a good stick with which to threaten the lower middle class Americans. "See? Look at this large group of people who are willing to take your jobs and be paid less than you are getting now! Don't organize! Don't make demands! Just be thankful to have a job, and kiss the feet of your corporate masters!"
Feel free to be sick and tired of it, but don't lose sight of the fact that it is merely an illusion, not reality. When it finally wears too thin to bear, simply change the channel.
If they come here legally and their papers are expired, then they are no longer here legally.
I am well aware of the benefits of LEGAL immigration. I am married to a LEGAL immigrant. My grandparents were LEGAL immigrants. LEGAL immigrants contribute to the greatness of America. We welcome then here with open doors.
However, LEGAL immigrants all have one thing in commmon - they followed the law. If you are not here illegally, not only do you not have any right to receive government benefits, you don't even have the right to be here. Go Home!
Well, at least we agree on something.
My fiancee has a learning disorder which makes it hard for her to understand things, like a dyslexic, but slightly different. She has bipolar disorder, which affects her social interactive ability. Her neck, back, and ankle were permanently injured due to an auto accident, and her lackluster attorney settled for a pittance. She cannot stand for more than 1 hr. at a time, has very low social skills, and almost zero ability to be job-trained. Oh, and she is also overweight, which compounds her back problems. I have had to leave my job to tend to her, AND to our 2 year old daughter, who is starting to exhibit some of her mother's traits. I am currently looking for part-time work nearby, as I have no car.
Are you calling my fiancee a "mooch?" (I paraphrase.) Are you calling her a burden? Because when her ADOPTIVE father rescued her from her family that had let her DIE TWICE from starvation AS AN INFANT, HE didn't see her that way. I am PROUD to pay her SSI with MY TAX MONEYand KNOW she would do the same for me. Just as I would do the same for you, believe it or not.
Are there assistance abusers? Most assuredly. But by lumping them together, you've seriously cheesed me off, because not all are equal in their ability to work. Whether you know it or not, your FICA helps her to keep her Low-No Income apartment, so she isn't homeless. You are providing a charity. The Federal Government is just the facilitator, because the private sector abandoned these people a LONG TIME AGO, and SOMEONE had to step in. I THANK GOD for the SSA, which helps those unable to provide for themselves with the ability to live adequately in America, where WE TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN. The Constitution says "We The People," and I am DAMN proud of it!
However, there are many able bodied people who are perfectly capable of working who find it easier to MOOCH off others. My claims are obviously not directed at disabled people.
I have compassion for people such as your financee. I have contempt toward people who would rather sit home and wait until unemployment beneifts expire before looking for a job. They are lazy and MOOCH off me.
People who need help are not mooching off of anybody. However, the majority of people who receive benefits are useless ingrates. I am pleased that my tax money goes to assist those who are incapable of helping themselves (although I do believe Churches and charities could do the job more efficiently). However, I am angry and resentful that my tax money pays for cigarettes and booz for able bodied people who REFUSE to work. They are sows slopping at the trough.
Sources and citations are for commies.
Fix'd.
Post some facts.
I've got just the place for you, PJ fan:
Mr. News
Like ??? :0) Nostradumbass' true authoritarian colors come out. Everything else he says is obviously BS.
This reminds me of an email I got from a right-wing co-worker a while back. One of those anonymous "something to think about / this makes sense!!" pieces of tripe that the wingnuts spend all day forwarding.
The subject was mandatory drug testing being a prerequisite to receiving welfare, and the replies came pretty fast & furious from the like-minded zombies, it was the most brilliant idea ever.
I couldn't resist hitting the "reply all" to offer some questions that a normal person with some critical thinking abilities would ask (being the only non-Republican in the loop, it was up to me).
How much more in taxes would they be willing to pay to create the bureaucracy to do the testing ? ( No sale, their mythology tells them that everybody on welfare is on drugs, so there would be a net savings).
Unemployment insurance, or just welfare ?
Would it apply to only illegal drugs, or legal, prescription drugs ?
Alcohol ?
Scheduled or random testing ?
I got a few sketchy answers from one person, then I made up a scenario that fit his answers. He gets laid off his job on Friday, files for unemployment, and decides to have a BBQ over the weekend to lift his spirits. As he's finishing his fourth beer, the government assistance police parachute in and give him a breathalyzer. He loses his house before he finds a job.
I think that's when I stopped getting the emails. They liked the simple version.
Olbermann converted atoms into molecules?
Unless you happen to be a well paid officer of a company on "government welfare", then no one has a right to regulate what you can earn or steal.
I assume you went to college but coasted through it and never really applied yourself. I assume you thought a job would come easily upon graduation. I assume you eventually found a job but then, for whatever reason, were fired or let go. I then assume that you believed you could find another job at any time but continually procrastinated in finding one.
If I'm wrong then correct me. I have no clue who you are. All I know is that you've been jobless for a year which is pathetic barring any unforeseen circumstance.
You got that part right.
I can:
- their job got outsourced overseas
- their company went out of business
I'm sure you could think of more if you used your head to think with, rather than as a stool for Beck to sit on . . .
I live in California -- I say, get rid of the wingnut bodybuilder/B-actor in the governor's mansion, and the economy will be BETTER . . .
Swallow this creep!
For starters, there are probably at least 10 over qualified applicants for every good job available. Probably many more.
Employers consider younger people before an older person because they'll usually work for less, having fewer family and financial obligations.
One of the biggest obstacles facing job seekers is their prior employment. Many people looking for jobs were very well paid in their former careers. Employers will pass over an otherwise qualified person, who might be willing to work for whatever the job is going to pay, because in his previous job he made too much money.
Employers assume that if a person earned $75,000 per year and he's only paying $50,000, the person being considered will never be happy working for one third less than he was paid in his last job.
Many companies have had such catastrophic and well publicized failures, that former employees of companies with villainous names, like Enron, Arthur Anderson, Worldcom, Lehman Brothers, Bear Sterns or any of the companies who sold subprime mortgages, are considered pariahs and un-hirable just because they worked for those companies.
You're shown us that you're a royal prick, are you a Christian as well?
I mean, good for them that they found new jobs right away, but I'm sure people are having pizzas delivered instead of going out to restaurants, and Domino's probably saw "long-term employees" written all over OTP and BJFan.
So, it's very possible that there are people who are unemployed for significatn
JOnesjax, I made a comment on the Limbaugh/Pelosi thread about that. Art is basically what separates us from the other animals. Lower forms of humans have a tough time with that.
I've never relied on it for my primary income, but I've been paid for playing guitar and drawing pictures, as well as swinging a hammer and sitting in a cubicle at a computer. The last two were a lot easier and less stressful, but the first two kept me sane.
I think some of you are coming down pretty hard... awn Magcynic. It may come off as vitriol, but I'll bet it's more ignorance.
Here in California, what I'm seeing from friends who have been laid off over the past few years is the worst of it is for the overqualified.
I have a friend with a couple of degrees whose field took a big hit. He was having no luck (told me at one point he sent out 150 resumes with no response) so he started lowering his standards.
He was told by some of these that there was no way they could pay him close to what he was used to making.They all assume, as the economy picks up, these people will be gone.
Unemployment, especially in extreme circumstances like the current Bush Recession, is most difficult to understand for the low-qualified. Wingnuts like MagCynic most likely live in depressed area where a person can live on minimum wage, and where max unemployment benefits are a dream.
It may be difficult for them to understand that 12 bucks an hour ( the max benefit in CA is $475 a week, if you don't have taxes taken out) is just an assist for those who have paid into the insurance for years.
For those who are not so "successful", this probably seems like a sweet ride. For those of us who don’t live in the more affordable, Red State rural types of places, it's just a pittance.
So cut Mag some slack. He may be at his first job, and can only dream of hauling in $475 a week. He doesn't understand that the people taking that to keep their heads above water will probably be supporting him for most of his life.
Mary thinks Mag is our favorite deputy. I see similarities. What do you think?
I tore Mag a new one in a long winded post up thread before I read your post which made the same point I tried to make, but not as eloquently as yours.
Mary59 in another thread commented that she thinks Mag is an old poster who disappeared awhile back named AnotherAmerican. He's been around for years under many different names but always singing the same tune.
I wish I could remember his "waterloo" statement that finally drove him away. It was a doozie.
You know what they say, Mag: Never assume -- 'cause it makes an "@$$" out of "u" and "me" . . .
In case you haven't noticed, we are still at over 9% unemployment on average nationwide and in some states have easily double that. Before you go off and blame Obama for this, what we are seeing is the reprocussions of Bush's failed economic policies STILL.
The myth that it is easy to get a "job" has always been just that - a myth. It has nothing to do with laziness. It has to do with supply and demand. Last time I heard, there are at least six candidates for every one opening, and that's assuming there is an actual opening.
That aside, I don't know about you, but I can't afford to live on a job where I am competing against high school graduates. While maybe you can do that for whatever reason (you are living with your parents, you have some other source of income, etc.), most of us can't afford to do that. I did the calculations at one point and I determined I need (and yes I meant NEED) to make above a certain level of income before I would even consider a job because if I didn't, I'd be actually losing money if I went to work.
This isn't a case of being lazy, it's the truth and no amount of lies and spin will ever change that.
Do you honestly believe that you can live high on the hog off of unemployment benefits?! Yeah, it's a REAL incentive to stay home on your butt and NOT pay your bills. OR worry about how you are going to keep your house.
You are exactly the filth that touts this sh*t on Fox News. Go to h@ll.
Our President has been in office for over a year... spent 825Billion on "jobs"!!! Promised unemployment wouldn't go above 8%....
Now take a look at the price of gas & diesel, an often overlooked MAJOR cause of the "economic meltdown", on it's way UP again.... We're STILL pushing FAKE health care reform and crap and trade....
Don't take your problems out on me.... The conservatives have offered GOOD and REASONABLE solutions to President Obama's FAILURES...., no takers... just keep on down the wrong road.... and ask yourself, what skills does my husband have to offer... If it's mcdonalds, k-mart, walmart, well he's competing with all the other unskilled.... Try a skills assessment.... Don't give up just yet, It's CLEAR that more open minded republicans and conservatives will prevail in November.... If President Obama can't get it done with a majority in both houses and a super majority in the Senate then just maybe the republicans can get something done....
Keep the faith....
There is no majority in the Senate. The Senate is about evenly divided between liberals and conservatives. It looks, along party lines, that things should be going all the Democrats' way, but there are all kinds of Democrats in the party, from conservative all the way to liberal. There's only two kinds of Republicans at the moments: conservative, and whackjob.
As for unemployment going above 8%, it was projected not to rise above 8% based on numbers from the Bush administration, who tried desperately hard to hide what a complete mess they'd made of the economy. Once the actual size of the problem was realized, that figure was quickly revised.
And only one kind of liberal - whack job.....
8% came out of OBAMAS mouth, maybe he should have checked his OWN figures... go ahead, blame Bush.... spin, deflection, and lies....
They sure did:
- a healthcare bill consisting of a cover and blank pages
- Bunning holding up an emergency unemployment benefits bill
- basically saying "no" to EVERYTHING
Those sound "good and reasonable" only to a teabagger . . .
Cynic has absolutely NO idea what it is like here at ground level for highly qualified people who are unemployed for the first time in their lives. A lifetime of hard work, progress, self-sufficiency, and child rearing like everyone else. All gone. Your new job is finding a job.
There is absolutely nothing 'normal' about the current job market where a solid gold resume' gets you nowhere and you pray that a prospective employer does not require submission of a salary history. Qualified and experienced in positions that don't exist in your still-depressed profession of 38 years; and overqualified for near minimum wage jobs that won't support the most austere version of the what was already a prudent lifestyle. Dumbing down an impressive resume' and applying hair color to cover your grey for a job interview is more humiliating than applying for jobs that pay the kind of wages you were making when you entered the job market of your youth. And let's not forget the 2 to 3 hour wait at the state employment office to process each job referral.
Some people think you are sitting at home chilling in front of the TV? No, but you are burning through life savings or cashing in IRA's or 401K's to keep up your mortgage on that modest dwelling, for the 12 remaining months until it is paid off, and keeping health insurance going until the COBRA elegibility times out. Checking your caller ID to avoid having to discuss your failures with old friends who call to check up on you. Trying to decide which version of your resume' and intro letter will land an interview. And the soul-crushing agony of trying to figure out why you were not considered for a follow-up interview.
The most important point I can make is that you are eternally grateful for that unemployment insurance claim (that you never ever imagined needing) and Recovery Act benefits that have literally kept you alive while you are slugging away with your own wits and resources to make ends meet. You don't feel sorry for yourself and you ask for no sympathy. You feel pride that you are surviving perhaps long enough to retrain yourself to gamble on a new career and moving on with your life. You know that there is only one acceptable way out....a paycheck. Preferable to wrapping your lips around the tailpipe of your car, even if that thought is comforting on a really bad day.
Yes, it is downright unimaginable how anyone can not find a job in a year's time, isn't it? Of course it is....if you still have a job or if you only listen to the talking heads at FOX.
But there is no escaping the anger and frustration of bigots who are , no...never talking about you, but, you know....just those other ones...the freeloaders.
The unemployed are really livin' large out here.
Yes, MagCynic can go to h@ll.
I dunno, you sure seem to have fun with it.
I really don't get it.... How can you possible not have a job for over a year....
I got laid off, found another.... Didn't even collect one days worth of government hand-out....
Can buy a computer, has time to look at mmfa for talking points.... SHOULD be looking for work.... duh!!!
OK lets get on with the name calling.... Wanna see the problem, look in the mirror.... delusions, your the one that's delusional....
Know why I found a job, because I LOOKED until I did.... FOCUS, stop wasting time on the internet.... get out and LOOK....
FOCUS, like a laser beam....
Just like a left-wing nutter, presuming to know what I know.... I am criticizing YOU for the whining "I have been unemployed for over a year"....
So which is it, are you a musician or unemployed??? can't have it both ways....
Libs are trying to force Happy Holidays on us instead of Merry CHristmas.
On his website, every year after T-Giving, Bill O'Reilly lists major stores that have a policy of saying Happy Holidays and which ones are Christmas friendly. His audience boycotts stores that say Happy Holidays. I never shop at Holiday Sales, but I do shop at Christmas Sales.
O'Reilly is liberal on many issues, but he is good on this one.
Well, aren't you a pleasant individual...
Let me rephrase: you're an idiot.
And you say liberals like to whine!
ROFL . . . Only somebody fracked up in the head gets insulted when somebody wishes them "Happy Holidays" . . .
Then again, you ARE a wingnut. That shouldn't come as a surprise . . .
I'm probably old enough to be your mother . . . there were "Happy Holiday" cards and signs when I was a small child. That term is actually more appropriate for a religious holiday than "Merry Christmas." In the early days of this country, the Puritans prohibited public celebrations of Christmas because of it's link to the "merry-making" in Europe. Christmas celebrations there included debauchery, nudity, and drunkenness. The current "traditional" celebration of Christmas has only been with us since the mid 1800s. Many mainstream Christians do not celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday.
read this, Dr. Talking Points, learn something
right, made up a war on Christmas... and that came from where??? out of touch, no wonder you like harry reid.... deflection, racist, out of touch....
No, we're talking about how Glenn Beck said "If you're on government assistance, the government has every right to regulate your life." Or we were until the trolls showed up.
Sweet Jesus, you're a goldmine.
When one is IN pre-school, one has to speak in "pre-school terms" . . .
/snark
As an independent contractor, I get paid on a 1099 basis. I'm responsible for paying my own taxes, which includes paying into unemployement insurance, social security, etc. If I have to collect unepmployment assistance, why shouldn't I be able to? I paid into it. And I have no problem with the money I paid into helping out others in need. Altogether I give up a pretty good chunk of my paycheck for taxes and such. Do I wish it was lower? Of course I do. But if there's a choice between having a tax rate a few points lower so I can afford that top of the line BMW or paying what I pay now and driving my VW (okay, my beloved VW) so that the money can help people out, there's really no choice. Why? Because I don't think that maybe someday I'm going to be a millionaire and don't want it spolied for me, but because maybe some day, hopefully not, but maybe some day, due circumstances, I'm might be one of those people who needs some assistance. So why should I begrduge them aid when I can afford it now when someday I might be dependant on their aid?
He may be a hired apprentice of Maggit or BJ, placed here to make their repetition of the am radio instructions seem sensible by comparison. Tough job.
The streak is alive. You're like the Cal Ripken of FAIL. Do you excuse your entire life as a "typo"?
Fixed it for youse.
OH and I LOVE caps.... why do you THINK (oxymoron) they're on the KEYBOARD.... entertainment for us trolls....
BTW - you are paying for YOUR education. You got it on loan and now your paying.... OMG
I work in healthcare & about 40% of our patients are medicaid. I see the transformation once they are under "free healthcare"..whatever test is offered they take it because "it's free". They do not value the care they are getting & many fail to keep their appts & I turn from nurse to babysitter tracking them down to come in. many of these patients feel there health is in our hands and make very little effort to participate. Once they are off medicaid they want to be treated for the illnesses over the phone because they think since they no longer have gov't ins they can' be seen. They never even think about paying for it themselves & some have actually been offended for being asked for a payment.
This behavior develops a learned dependency, we are creatures of comfort & habit. Many people will adjust their lives to the lower income they receive from government assistance & stay there. If they are not very ambitious they will stay in this trap & become servants to the masters.
vaguest possible anecdotal evidence? Believe me, I see it everyday!!!
Unfortunately you don't realize this and I personally hope that you never lose your job one day and have to experience being unemployed for an extended period of time. Because if you did, it's people like you who actually do what you can to exploit the system and try to take more than they contribute.
I don't know about you, but I pay my taxes. I know that what I am providing may benefit me one day, it might not. However, if you don't want to contribute that's fine - just get off my roads, use my schools, use my electricity, use my phone lines, use my public safety organizations and live in the mountains where you can be fully self sufficient without anyone but yourself.
You will not be missed - I assure you.
in pre-school terms - MOST of us are the product of OUR decisions". It's OK to fall occasionally, but those that play on the internet instead of LOOKING for a job, or doing something (not playing on the internet), don't deserve our support....
"All poor people deserve it" are YOUR words, don't blame them on others, who actually have reasonable opinions....
I'm putting this on my business cards. Welcome back, ABBA the Friendly Meth-Head.
You are truly amazing.... always changing the subject JUST like you accuse others of doing.... deflection, spin, lies....
I know many people out there are having avery difficult time with the economy right now & it sucks. I'm originally from Michigan & most of my family still live their. It breaks my heart to see how bad it is there. My brother coninues the cycle of work/layed-off/work & has done so for the past 1 1/2 yrs. What I don't understand is why people don't move if that is what it is going to take to improve your life & provide for your family!
Who ever promised you life was going to easy & everything was going work out for you? Adjust & deal with it. Whatever it is you'll be much better off for it. That's the problem,it's easier to have someone fix the problem for us than for us to do it ourselves.
Who is the "you" in this sentence , NoNanny ? Who are you accusing of thinking this way?
And congratulations on wisely choosing a new career, many of us have done that. If you don't mind me asking, how did you get by for the period between losing your job and completing your nursing education ?
It's unfortunate but many people have a hard time changing directions if their lives when things have been tossed upside down. You do what you have but that should cause you to want to fight harder for the success you are seeking. Some people just dont' get that.
What Nurse Ratched and other wingers can't seem to understand is that not everybody can just pack up and move at the drop of a hat -- unless you're a CEO with a $10 million severance package . . .
When you use words like that here, you probably won't be taken seriously. It exposes you right away as somebody who has been fooled. Just a little friendly advice.
For some reason, conservatives think that these umemployed people, getting $250 a week (that's what it was when I was living in Mass a couple of years ago) are living the good life, rolling in the free money when in fact, even with that assistance, they still can't make ends meet. You try living on less $15,000 year. You keep trying equate an entire group of people based on a small percentage of abusers, and that's called stereotyping. To try and demonize people that need help just because you think it's cutting into your bottom line is worse than indifference, it's willful maliciousness.
And, by the way, you just decided that you didn't want Rush Limbaugh to vote. Yep, Rush lived on the dole between jobs, in case you didn't know it.
The 15th, 19th, 23rd, 24th, and 26th Amendments all deal with voting rights.
Amendments say that we can not deny someone the franchise on the basis of race, gender, age (if you are 18), or failure to pay a poll tax. However, no Amendment guarantees people the right to vote - they only specify that you can not be denied the right to vote based on certain factors.
The Constitution says nothing about denying people the right to vote on the basis of failure to pay taxes. We deny people the right to vote if they are not US citizens (unless ACORN intervenes) of ir they have been convicted of a felony. THere are no COnstitutional problems with that. I would not think that there would be any Constitutional prohibition on disenfranching people who don't pay taxes.
Denying people to vote based on race or color is blatantly un-Constitutional.
I resent people who don't pay any taxes voting themselves more freebies for which I must pay.
A comedian spewing character assassination is a source? You normally make intelligent comments, but I am a bit diappointed in you on account of this one.
FRanken also said that Ann Coulter had an arrest for prostitution. Because Al Franken said it, does that make it true?
Do I find it hard to believe, despite Limbaugh's denial? No, not really. See, Limbaugh is all in favor of mandatory minimum sentences for drug dealers. Until, of course, he himself got caught with enough prescription meds to be considered a dealer himself. Did he get a mandatory minimum sentence, or were the rules bent around his fame and fortune. Hmmm. Well, considering how loudly he trumpets his 'everyman' status, he's doing 10-15 in prison somewhere, right? Nope. Skated on it.
Al Franken is a Harvard grad with a degree in government. Know what that means? He knows more about government than Rush does, for one thing. Also, that he has the intelligence and discipline to matriculate from a very prestigious school, something Limbaugh never managed, even at the state college level.
I have not heard that Franken said Coulter was arrested for prostitution. Voter fraud? Sure.
Hey, just because Limbaugh denies it, does that make it false? His hypocrisy is already legendary, what's one more little tiny thing on the mountain of hypocrisy he has built with his own mouth? Limbaugh is an uneducated, racist drug addict, and because he has no character and no morals to speak of, he is not and likely never will be a credible source for anything except how much it costs to hire male prostitutes.
A comedian spewing character assassinations? Are you talking about Limbaugh, because he really isn't all that funny.
PJ fan's right: Limpballs wasn't on welfare -- just unemployment, after the KC Royals fired him from their PA dept. in the 80's . . .
You have this misconception that everyboy[sic] who gets government assistance is sitting around stuffing themselves, smoking and guzzling booze.
THESE are YOUR words, projected....
So, Mag, tell me how you are not subscribing to a false stereotype.
Is he as bored by you as we are?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N4KbLbGYgk&feature=related
It's is COMPLETELY wrong for the government to take mine for YOU.... I'd like to be able to help my family but barely make it by with what the GOVERNMENT takes from me...
I'm willing to pay my FAIR share, but for FAKE health care "reform", light rail that no one rides.... ridiculous....
It sounds like you're not living within your means, or just haven't worked hard enough. I understand, I remember my first job above the table, in high school, I was furious at the taxes taken out. Instead of complaining for the government to give me some money back like you're doing, I worked harder and earned more. Soon, taxes weren't that big a deal.
I know it's a little late, but I also would have recommended that you didn't start a family until you felt comfortable taking care of yourself. Fortunately, you can put the kids down as deductions, and more responsible people like me (no kids) can make up the difference. Don't feel bad about taking my money, I'm doing ok, and wouldn't want to punish your children for your failures. You're welcome.
Not only do I have a family but I have an extended family.... AGAIN when nearly 50% of my earnings go to pay taxes and "fees" that weren't there LAST year or the year before, well I just can't do it.... I'd like to retire some day, but I'm concerned I'll end up a burden on my kids and grand kids....
If your doing so good, write a check to the government, spend YOUR money, stop taking mine.....
This is why the right wing is so screwed up. It finds double standards to be acceptable. Anyone else notice this?
Freedom!!! For those that can afford it!
Lady Gaga is a billionaire. QED, beeotch.
True -- or, as I read in Steinbeck's The Grapes Of Wrath, "you're only as free as ya got jack to pay fer it."
Conservatism in a nutshell.
Buncha cranky honkies worried someone will get something they don’t.
Who had the quote (badly paraphrased): the fear that someone else is having more fun than they are. ?
"Sucks to be you" or "If you're gay or a Muslim, I will make it suck to be you".
trying your spin, deflection and lies.... No wonder you're so good at it....
I will be pay for my healthcare and you can pay for yours.
ROFL. I know you're not talking to me, because where I live we have universal healthcare. Enjoy overpaying for yours!
Your whole attitude is contemptibly selfish and narrow-minded. No man is an island, nomatter how highly you might think of yourself.
Or, better yet, let's ask Simple Sarah, whose family regularly went over the border to get health care when they lived in Alaska in the 60s . . .
That option was perfectly ok for everyone else. He wanted some extra bells and whistles, he could afford it.
I assume you're talking about Danny Williams, Premier of Newfoundland. Why don't you read what Williams himself had to say about it?
Williams said his decision to go to the U.S. did not reflect any lack of faith in his own province's health care system.
"I have the utmost confidence in our own health care system in Newfoundland and Labrador, but we are just over half a million people," he said.
"We do whatever we can to provide the best possible health care that we can in Newfoundland and Labrador. The Canadian health care system has a great reputation, but this is a very specialized piece of surgery that had to be done and I went to somebody who's doing this three or four times a day, five, six days a week."
also:
Williams needed an operation on his mitral valve. His office admits the procedure was, in fact, available in Canada. It’s more than that, though: Canadian cardiac surgeons happen to be renowned for their expertise in valve repair.
It was two Canadian physicians who wrote the how-to paper on valve surgery published only late last year in the New England Journal of Medicine. There are famous surgeons like Toronto’s Dr. Tirone David, who’s been called a “virtuoso” valve man. Minimally invasive procedures, the style of surgery Williams chose, are offered in Canada in places like the University of Ottawa Heart Institute.
Well, it seems to me that Glenn Beck is making a similar point. Just like the banks were only surviving due to government support, people on welfare are also surviving due to government support. So it seems reasonable that the government should have some say as to what these people are doing, since by providing them much-needed financial support the government is in some sense funding their activities. So yes, the government has a right to "regulate your life" in more extensive ways if your are depending on government aid for sustenance, just like the government had a right to regulate the nation's banks in more extensive ways when they were dependent on the TARP bailouts for solvency.
Now maybe you think that this is a false moral equivalence. If so, please state why. Is it because the banks were the ones who started a massive economic crisis through their devious business practices, while most welfare recipients are decent, hard-working Americans who have simply incurred great misfortune? If this is your reasoning, please state it, because at least then we can have an intellectually honest discussion.
You have to do something in society? Does goldman sachs know that?
The ER will never turn away anyway who requires emergent care (like a heart attack.) He gets minimal care and will get kicked out of the bed as soon as he can walk And every taxpayer in america foots the bill because millions of people don't have insurance.
THE PUBLIC OPTION was the optional insurance. How do these guys still not understand that they are essentially in the end coming to the same conclusion (albeit by despicable logic) that the entire democratic party (outside of congress) have realized. Right now, to keep insurance honest, the public option is the best way, the most popular way and the right way. Why does obama not realize this?
The government is not beholden to shareholders of a profit margin. THey can undercut private insurers on price. THe government will keep prices artificially low in order to drive private insurers out of business. Once, they do they will massively jack up rates.
I agree with a Democrat on this issue. David Boren said we will have the public option over his dead body.
Why do you continue to worry about multi - billion dollar corporations that don't contribute or represent the publics best interest? You act like the government keeping insurance prices low is a bad thing. I don't care who takes my money, as long as I get effective, affordable care no matter my condition or class.
They also tend to worship the military, which by their logic would be much more efficiently run by private corporations. Yet you don't hear them pushing for privatization there. Cognitive dissonance much?
You sound like you're in 5th grade, and haven't said a single thing that merits a serious response.
Besides I, like the SCOTUS support the 1st amendment to the constitution.... Freedom of speech... All they did was say the "LEGISLATION" outlawing the freedom of speech, was and is ILLEGAL....
I support freedom, just like the SCOTUS, the 1st amendment right to UNABRIDGED freedom of speech has been UPHELD....
Thank you for phrasing your beliefs in such a mature, meaningful way.
Then with the same thinking;
If "you have a job[s], ... your employer "ha[s] every right" to regulate your life
Which is it Becky?
Just asking ....