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O'Reilly: "You always hear the cops are picking on African-Americans, but whites are arrested way higher than African-Americans"

March 12, 2010 10:07 pm ET

From the March 12 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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Rev. Jackson to O'Reilly: "[T]o underestimate the civility of blacks was insulting to many people"

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    • Author by phredicles (March 12, 2010 10:11 pm ET)
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      Whites are arrested at higher elevations? Or they're more often arrested for partaking of the wacky weed? And "picking on"="arresting"? What a load of intellectual sloppiness from Fox's supposed Deep Thinker.
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      • Author by Bad News (March 13, 2010 12:17 am ET)
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        Deep Thinker? "You Always Hear About Cops Picking On African Americans"
        Was Rodney King on the ground seeking Social Justice? Was he being a Contrarian?
        Hey Bill-O, Try Replacing yourself with a Black Man and then Phone Rape Andrea Mackris.
        All of a sudden it's no longer an "Innocent Mis-understanding" but a Matter for the Police.

        Speak truth to power.


        Mr. News
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        • Author by OTP (March 13, 2010 5:59 pm ET)
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          OK mr. un-truth to no-power - rodney king was and is a creep.... certainly he didn't deserve a beating, but where is he NOW... Once a creep always a creep....
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          • Author by benjr (March 14, 2010 7:10 pm ET)
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            So is being a creep against the law now OTP? What possible point are you trying to make with that inane statement?
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      • Author by punkin (March 13, 2010 9:48 am ET)
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        More than that - Oreilly tries to equate the population diversity of 50 or so years from now to today's racial percentages.
        In 2008 (the year of the report that Oreilly is quoting from for arrests) the census bureau lists the white population of our country to be at 75% and the black population as just 12.4%
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (March 13, 2010 7:42 pm ET)
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        but whites are arrested way higher than African-Americans


        I'll go with operating under the influence of drugs or alcohol, Alex.
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      • Author by grumpops (March 13, 2010 8:59 pm ET)
           
        Well, the LAST PLACE a liberal would want to look would be DOJ Crime statistics ALL CRIMES..
        As of December 2008 (last year of Statistics compiled)
        Total prison population:
        840,700 non black
        586,200 black

        http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=132
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    • Author by MagCynic (March 12, 2010 10:16 pm ET)
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      He's probably technically correct since whites outnumber blacks. It makes sense that whites would be arrested more.
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      • Author by worrierking (March 12, 2010 10:20 pm ET)
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        And he shows the world he's an even bigger doochebag than previously thought, technically.
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (March 12, 2010 10:24 pm ET)
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        No they don't and do your own homework for once.
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        • Author by MagCynic (March 12, 2010 10:26 pm ET)
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          No they don't what? Are you disputing his numbers? If his numbers were fudged believe me Geraldo would've called him on it.
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          • Author by worrierking (March 12, 2010 10:39 pm ET)
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            Geraldo knows he's hit absolute, rock bottom and for him, there is no one who'd take him. He's been a joke since before Fox News existed. But he does lean to the left and knows his place, so he's still there.

            He's a less mousey Alan Colmes who may be in the process of eating some type of rodent by the look of his upper lip.
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            • Author by Bongo Fury (March 12, 2010 11:25 pm ET)
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              Thanks worrierking.If the right allows us to have a fair census,they will find that whites are a minority in America.I live in a predominantly Hispanic town and hope I become a minority unless I get pulled over for DWW(driving while white).
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              • Author by jonesjax2374 (March 13, 2010 1:45 am ET)
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                Geraldo opens Capones vault: THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR! Shocking, shocking...Alan Colmes by the way, has a really confrontational radio show. I was shocked when I heard who I thought was a milquetoast on the radio. Maybe it was the last part of his show when he slams down callers. Too bad we didn't see this on TV...
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              • Author by OTP (March 13, 2010 6:01 pm ET)
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                and exactly what race do YOU "THINK" hispanics are???? Can't wait to see your answer....
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                • Author by bluto51 (March 14, 2010 5:48 pm ET)
                     
                  To classify Hispanics as white shows yer ignornce....My skin is BROWN not white.. many hispanics for instance in the caribbian are as black as any african american. you ramble and ramble like Charles Manson on steriods and acid... you really need to get whatever kind of meds tht keep you in reality adjusted.
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          • Author by bilbo_dies (March 13, 2010 5:26 pm ET)
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            Yes, the numbers don't lie, do they?

            Imprisonment rate per 100,000 of population

            Men Women
            Total 952 62
            White 487 50
            Black 3,161 149
            Hispanic 1,200 75

            As a percentage:

            Total 0.95% 0.06%
            White 0.49% 0.05%
            Black 3.16% 0.15%
            Hispanic 1.20% 0.08%

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            • Author by bilbo_dies (March 13, 2010 5:27 pm ET)
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              I really hate web software that won't format correctly.
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              • Author by OTP (March 13, 2010 6:02 pm ET)
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                and web sites that don't have accurate figures....
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                • Author by bilbo_dies (March 13, 2010 7:33 pm ET)
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                  Which would be which ones OTP?

                  Fox News maybe?


                  Mine came from here.


                  Of course, it is a (shudder) government site.
                  I'm sure they are under reporting the white inmates and over reporting the minority inmates.


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                  • Author by OTP (March 13, 2010 10:17 pm ET)
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                    Which ever one you got those "figures" from....
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                    • Author by John Paradox (March 14, 2010 12:04 pm ET)
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                      Oh, look! It hasn't heard of 'hyperlinks'.
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                    • Author by jjamele2880 (March 14, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
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                      If you dispute the figures, give us a link to the "real" ones. Otherwise, you sound like a petulant little boy who doesn't want to accept facts.

                      "Nuh-UH" isn't really an answer.
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                    • Author by bintx (March 15, 2010 9:51 am ET)
                         
                      You mean the figures from THIS site:

                      U.S. Department of Justice
                      Office of Justice Programs
                      Bureau of Justice Statistics
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        • Author by bluto51 (March 13, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
             
          Hey you just wait till they start playing Cowboys and White eyes. Hey we can call it "social justice"


          ya'tahe'
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      • Author by Kikabi (March 12, 2010 10:49 pm ET)
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        He's probably technically correct since whites outnumber blacks. It makes sense that whites would be arrested more.


        Which is precisely why what O'Reilly said is utterly idiotic.

        Besides, what "census numbers" is he referring to? There aren't any "census numbers" from 2010. He's using 10 year old figures?

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        • Author by Lizinbklyn (March 13, 2010 12:13 pm ET)
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          O'LIElly out B.S.'s himself every night 'cause he knows his viewsers ONLY watch faux for their news from the OUTside world . .
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 12, 2010 10:56 pm ET)
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        Here are the stats from the free library website:

        Arrests, by Race, 2008

        * In 2008, 69.2 percent of all persons arrested nationwide were white, 28.3 percent were black, and 2.5 percent were other races.

        * Of all juveniles (persons under the age of 18) arrested in 2008, 66.4 percent were white, 30.9 percent were black, and 2.7 percent were other races.

        * Nearly 70 percent (69.7) of all adults (persons aged 18 and over) arrested were white, 27.8 percent were black, and 2.4 percent were other races.

        * White persons were more often arrested for violent crimes than were black persons, accounting for 58.3 percent of those arrests.

        * The number of adults arrested for murder and nonnegligent manslaughter was almost equally divided between black arrestees (49.1 percent) and white arrestees (48.8 percent).

        * Black juveniles accounted for 51.6 percent of juveniles arrested for violent crimes.

        * White juveniles accounted for 64.7 percent of juveniles arrested for property crimes.

        O'Reilly tends to use the words "picking on" more loosely than he should. What he is talking about is racial profiling. It is true that African-Americans are the subject of racial profiling more often than any other group in America. He was just too chicken to call it racial profiling.
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        • Author by Bongo Fury (March 12, 2010 11:36 pm ET)
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          Rock on teacher!My mom taught too and facts were important.The majority of the people I know and deal with are people of color and don't have to remind me of what is real.It's obvious,the truth.
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        • Author by Les Philling (March 13, 2010 12:34 am ET)
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          Those figures are from the FBI, but they don't segment out Hispanics.
          http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_43.html
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        • Author by OTP (March 13, 2010 6:05 pm ET)
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          I have a question for cugagcm805031 -

          * Nearly 70 percent (69.7) of all adults (persons aged 18 and over) arrested were white, 27.8 percent were black, and 2.4 percent were other races.

          How many "other races" are there????
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          • Author by Sciential (March 14, 2010 8:28 pm ET)
               
            A bunch but "Hispanic" ain't one of them. O'Reilly is conflating two categories of "white".

            When he's talking about whites no longer being a majority, he is talking about non-Hispanic Caucasians. The arrest statistics, though, don't separate Hispanics out. The 69% white - 28% black figures compare to the population numbers under Ethnicity here: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html

            This should be obvious to anyone who can add 28 + 69. Anyone who thinks Hispanics account for at most 3% of arrests in the United States is as dumb as O'Reilly.
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          • Author by bintx (March 15, 2010 9:55 am ET)
               
            According to the U. S. Census Bureau, there three others specified and then "all others." The other races specified are: Asia, Native American and Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.

            You might want to look things up on government sites, Dancing Queen.
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 13, 2010 12:02 am ET)
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        OK I will go with that.What do you get when you do the numbers as a percentage of black and white population what do they look lik?On the cops shows do not show real interactions of the police and black people.I will not make a blanket statement and say that all white police are bad.Because many black police do not treat black people right.There is a particular group of police who are the biggest violaters.It is the young dumb scared ones black and white who have been taught to fear black people.Many police who have worked the job a few years learn that red green yellow black white people are people.This is a big mess made worse by efficienty of operation.And municipalities seeking not tax income.The seasoned police do not ride as much with the rookie to let them know everybody is people.Even when the police turned fire hoses on black people all of them were not bad.Many had no choice.They had people to support.They needed a job and a house for them to stay in,that they did not want to lose or get burnt up.This happens because people who are suppose to be leaders are cheer leaders leadind the cheer.When you you have leaders who are cheer leaders.This is the republicans,and so called conservatives.Their only solution to any problem they can come up with is to make a richer,make a poor man poorer by a fake hope in a rigged game,don't let the government tell the rich man what to do,insted let the government that already tells the poor man what to do to do more,or keep THEM in line.When people see these cheerlaeders they need to tell them to go to a football game,basketball game,or behind the lockers with the team.These are the people you listen to MagCynic.The team has taken your mind behind the lockers.This is why you can not have a discussion about what is on your mind.You just take the cheer and run with it.Back on topic the arrest numbers of white people are probabliy up if you do the numbers on a yearly basis.Because of the hard times that always follow leader/cheerleaderd.Even though they lost they still are cheering for further hardship.This is increasing the number of white people being arrested.Many times because they did not have the money to pay a fine.The rookies have increased fear.Increased arrest of all people is many times a matter of money
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        • Author by John Paradox (March 13, 2010 12:59 am ET)
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          What do you get when you do the numbers as a percentage of black and white population what do they look like?

          What you are trying to say here is "what is the per capita arrest percentage?" In other words, if X% of the population is 'white' and Y% of the population is 'colored', and we assume that both commit crimes at the same rate, there should be the same percentages in jail. However, one example where this is not true is in the "crack" vs "powder cocaine" sentencing disparity. If someone is arrested with 'crack', the sentence is several times higher than with 'powder' (BTW, cocaine in either form is the same chemically). Since 'crack' is more commonly used in 'black' communities, and 'powder' in 'white', there is a clear disparity, which Legislatures have recently looked at correcting.
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          • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 13, 2010 1:16 am ET)
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            The juvinile justice system is rigged the same way.The method used is in school troubled kid,not in school criminal.Sit in juvinile court if they will let you and you will see this dual sentencing system at work.The method exist in many forms
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      • Author by loonz (March 13, 2010 7:41 am ET)
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        He prefaced the statement about Whites being arrested more than Blacks with "You always hear the cops are picking on African-Americans". His asinine premise is totally different from what you posted.
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      • Author by wookie (March 13, 2010 10:26 am ET)
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        I also hear that most of the people arrested in China are Chinese...
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      • Author by shaggles (March 13, 2010 3:04 pm ET)
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        Why all the thumbs down here? Whites commit more crimes and it probably is because they make up a greater percentage of the population. I think the per capita arrest and conviction rate is higher among blacks though which seems to undercut O'Reilly's argument.
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    • Author by mjh (March 12, 2010 10:17 pm ET)
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      O'Reilly: "You always hear the cops are picking on African-Americans, but whites are arrested way higher than African-Americans"



      Shorter BillO: I will NEVER stop claiming victimhood for my people!!


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    • Author by aj.physics (March 12, 2010 10:28 pm ET)
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      The census hasn't even come out and they are already trying to use it to scare people. They are a classy bunch.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (March 13, 2010 1:37 pm ET)
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        I think if BilldO had visited Northern Ireland when he was young and unknown, and been subjected to the tender mercies of the Royal Ulster Constabulary for walking while Catholic, he might have a different take on this.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (March 12, 2010 11:17 pm ET)
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    • Author by Les Philling (March 13, 2010 12:27 am ET)
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      Whites are not arrested more than Blacks. 75% of the the Merican population is White (not including White Hispanics) as per Wikipedia article linked to below. 12.4% is Black. Assuming O'Reilly's arrest figures are accurate, there would be .91 (68/75) arrests per White American and 2.26 (28/12.4) arrests per Black American. That would make the arrest rate of Blacks 2.5 times that of Whites.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

      Everyone seems to accept that the country is going to be majority non-White some day. I think something is going to happen to prevent that. Something, a change in our immigration laws combined with a much more socially and economically hostile environment for non-Whites perhaps.

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    • Author by Sharpe (March 13, 2010 12:51 am ET)
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      If all the minorities in america together exceeded the population of white christian americans, all the minorities would still be called minorities unless of course by definition one of them exceedes the current majority.
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    • Author by jonesjax2374 (March 13, 2010 1:42 am ET)
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      They ARE? Wow. Not here in Oakland they're not.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (March 13, 2010 7:32 am ET)
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      What you say may very well be true, that almost 70% of the arrests are white. Let's stipulate that this is true.

      Then my question is why are there more blacks in prison than whites?

      Check it out here...

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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 13, 2010 8:57 am ET)
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        Don't have money to make bail,or pay a lawyer.It is much easier to send people already in jail who could not afford to get out to prison.This makes sure people working in the system will get their retirement checks.It is about money in more ways than many people know.Prison is a for profit company listed on wall street.There are judges in Texas who have been found guilty of taking cash kick-backs to send people to wall street listed jails.Black prison populations are used by nearly all white small towns to get money from the government because of their large black population with no income.
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      • Author by OTP (March 13, 2010 6:09 pm ET)
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        Simple, the poor black man doesn't get the high priced defenders the fascist-terrorists get, pro-bono OR paid for by the tax payers....
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (March 13, 2010 7:41 pm ET)
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          Dude. You either need serious help or need to redo your shtick.

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          • Author by OTP (March 13, 2010 10:18 pm ET)
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            DUDE, is that ALL you can say..... figures....
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            • Author by bilbo_dies (March 14, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
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              Well, I could point out how your statement is not based on any facts.

              I haven't noticed that facts make any kind of impression on your viewpoint. Thus my comment, you either need help or you need to revise your shtick.



              Don't worry, I don't expect much on the intertubes.
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              • Author by OTP (March 14, 2010 1:18 pm ET)
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                Not worried at all.... You see just as I've frequently stated when the lefties can't deal with facts, they deflect, spin and lie.... just look at your posts for proof.....

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            • Author by bintx (March 15, 2010 9:56 am ET)
                 
              Your statements are ridiculously false, but then most everything you say is, Dancing Queen.
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        • Author by zamfir273114 (March 14, 2010 12:25 am ET)
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          The topic is about "arrests". Not convictions. So what does your hodgepodge regarding legal representation have to do with the discussion? Nothing, I assume.

          Also, don't feel bad for "the poor black man" (your words); the latinos are toping the list of most arrested.
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          • Author by OTP (March 14, 2010 1:19 pm ET)
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            and for a FOURTH time, exactly what race are "latinos", or "hispanics"???

            You people ore really out of touch racists..... Shades of harry reid and robert byrd....
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            • Author by OTP (March 14, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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              I guess answering that question blows you entire argument huh?
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              • Author by OTP (March 14, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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                OR, could it be, that you just don't know... probable!!!!
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              • Author by bluto51 (March 14, 2010 5:51 pm ET)
                   
                On my census form and every gov't appliciation when it asked for race it asked for Hispanics oh yes and Pacific Islenders you pendejo....
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            • Author by bluto51 (March 15, 2010 2:57 am ET)
                 
              OK I eill try to use small words that you can understnd. There are some white hispanics they live in spain and are called castillin, although there are not many of them most spanariads were mixed with moorish blood hence the nmne Medina, Martinez etc....The majority of Hispanics are like me with brown skin. Some such as Puerto Rican hispanics black skined in large numbers. Im sure you are going to refute this in your own mind that raves like Charles Manson. All i can say to you is pendajo...
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            • Author by bintx (March 15, 2010 9:57 am ET)
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              Latinos/hispanics are Caucasian.
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          • Author by OTP (March 14, 2010 1:25 pm ET)
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            Not only that, but "the discussion" also involved "jail", "convicts...??? "convicted"???
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        • Author by papa bear3 (March 14, 2010 2:55 pm ET)
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          OJ?
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    • Author by Sociologist (March 13, 2010 10:44 am ET)
         
      Given that the African-American population percentage is 12%, his point is lame. It's the CONVICTION rate that needs to be discussed in an intelligent conversation.
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    • Author by dadre (March 13, 2010 12:12 pm ET)
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      Oreily's numbers are correct but his analysis is wrong. MagCyn was actually those close I have to give some props for on the surface analysis. This is an obvious stat but you have approximately 13% of the population being arrested 28% of the time while approximately 80% of the population is being arrested 69% of the time....that's a pretty big discrepancy unless you want to say all blacks get arrested and or those who do it happens in muiltiples of times to compensate for if not all blacks are arrested.

      Another issue is that Oreily pulled the arrested stat not that DWBNC(Driving while black in a nice car) isn't prevalent . The question is how many were actually charged with something and what was the severity of the charges. We look at OJ and R Kelly because its not usually for an AA to get acquitted. We can look at the news and a lot of people with a certain pigment get arrested but then get a slap on the wrist or max go to a country club prison.
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    • Author by dadre (March 13, 2010 12:17 pm ET)
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      Sorry Approximately 66% getting arrested 69% of the time.
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    • Author by 911guy (March 13, 2010 5:07 pm ET)
         
      I work for a police dept in a medium sized midwestern city that is mostly white. Yes, we do arrest white people more than African Americans. So what does that have to do with anything? I suspect if I worked in Gary that ratio would be entirely tipped the other way. Just another O'Reilly statistic which is meaningless on its face but is used to prop up the usual FOX slant on race relations in this country. Guess I'll have to ask my black fiance what she thinks.
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    • Author by grumpops (March 13, 2010 9:03 pm ET)
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      Speaking of Racist Comments.

      If Limbaugh or Hannity had said what Dan Rather said to Chris matthews a few days ago...Media doesn'tmatter would have been sending this out as a broadcast email within 10 minuts.

      But since liberal paragon of speaking with pecker in mouth Dan Rather said it....of course connecting the black president and watermelon isn't a racist statement at all...is it?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1UHz7VtpqY
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    • Author by doggeddem (March 14, 2010 12:18 am ET)
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      What is the source of that statistic? Rasmussen? This is hogwash. The percentage of those incarcerated is substantially higher among minorities than caucasians. This is just a bogus claim. One out of every five male black Americans is incarcerated during his lifetime. I doubt that that statistic is even remotely comparable to the experiences of caucasians. This is just more right-wing hooey. No surprise there.
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      • Author by OTP (March 14, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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        right wing hooey... now that's factual....

        So lets assume you are right, and you may well be.....

        Exactly WHY is that the case??? I always wondered???
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        • Author by Logan (March 14, 2010 4:42 pm ET)
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          So you're making an implication about the criminality of racial groups?

          But wait, you'll deny that, that's what Rush does, right? Makes a thinly veiled racial implication, then backs off of it.
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          • Author by k1dork (March 14, 2010 11:26 pm ET)
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            Violent crime effects the black community more. No need to thinly veil anything.

            And it seems like the political left, which blacks have loyally supported for 40 years, can do NOTHING about it.

            "Sorry your 5 year old got her brains blown out at the park by a gang-banger's errant bullet. Vote Democrat and stp racial profiling!"
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            • Author by Logan (March 15, 2010 2:45 am ET)
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              And here's Tweedledum to complete the duo of inanity:

              Are you seriously implying that the Democrats in some way, shape or form are responsible for the impact of violent crime on "the black community?" Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

              Or even worse, the post (if not saying the above) then reads as a serious consideration of racial profiling as legitimately affecting communities to the tune of decreasing violent crime? Really? You sound as loony as ever.
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              • Author by spittinghotfireonrepukes (March 15, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
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                Logan watch out, your talking to a self professed black man there. He is the voice of today's African American. He and only he can determine what's racial and what isn't. In his estimate white liberals can't say anything about race, yet he belongs to a political party that has a membership of less then 2% that look just like him(if he is indeed black). Us liberals sure do have a problem with racial problems. Our tent is minute, at best. Oh my bad, that is the Repub tent that is minute...
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                • Author by Logan (March 15, 2010 6:38 pm ET)
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                  Oddly enough, I am black myself, and have seen him pull that out like it's supposed to change that his argument is wrong.

                  Always good to see a near unilaterally one race majority party claim to be about diversity and equality.
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