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Van Susteren asks Sen. Hatch: "You think that they're trying to slip" federal funding for abortion into the health care bill?

March 16, 2010 11:53 pm ET

From the March 16 edition of Fox News' On the Record with Greta van Susteren:

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Previously:

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    • Author by bintx (March 16, 2010 11:59 pm ET)
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      They aren't. They can't. Give up the lies.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 17, 2010 12:05 am ET)
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        bintx,
        That's all they have left, so I guess they figure they'll use what they have. It grieves and angers me at the same time that so many members of Congress call themselves Christians and lie as much as they do. They are ignoring the fact that according to Scripture, they'll be held accountable for these lies they tell so glibly.
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      • Author by littlethisandthat (March 17, 2010 12:05 am ET)
           
        Orrin Hatch..You should be ashamed of yourself. You are not a true LDS member. You are a liar. READ THIS:

        SEC. 156. APPLICATION OF STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS REGARDING ABORTION.

        (a) No Preemption of State Laws Regarding Abortion- Nothing in this Act shall be construed to preempt or otherwise have any effect on State laws regarding the prohibition of (or requirement of) coverage, funding, or procedural requirements on abortions, including parental notification or consent for the performance of an abortion on a minor.

        (b) No Effect on Federal Laws Regarding Abortion-

        (1) IN GENERAL- Nothing in this Act shall be construed to have any effect on Federal laws regarding--

        (A) conscience protection;

        (B) willingness or refusal to provide abortion; and

        (C) discrimination on the basis of the willingness or refusal to provide, pay for, cover, or refer for abortion or to provide or participate in training to provide abortion.

        (c) No Effect on Federal Civil Rights Law- Nothing in this section shall alter the rights and obligations of employees and employers under title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.



        There's also this:


        (c) Use of Affordability Credits-

        (1) IN GENERAL- In Y1 and Y2 an affordable credit eligible individual may use an affordability credit only with respect to a basic plan.

        (2) FLEXIBILITY IN PLAN ENROLLMENT AUTHORIZED- Beginning with Y3, the Commissioner shall establish a process to allow an affordability credit to be used for enrollees in enhanced or premium plans. In the case of an affordable credit eligible individual who enrolls in an enhanced or premium plan, the individual shall be responsible for any difference between the premium for such plan and the affordable credit amount otherwise applicable if the individual had enrolled in a basic plan.

        (3) PROHIBITION OF USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS FOR ABORTIO
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      • Author by bintx (March 17, 2010 9:54 am ET)
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        Um, thumbs downer, please refer to the Hyde Amendment. They aren't trying to put federal funding for abortion in the bill because they can't. It's illegal. Fox is lying.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 17, 2010 12:13 am ET)
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      there is no federal funding for abortion, there is none. hatch stuttering very badly trying to find words and engineer the sentence to suit his own agenda. Susteren knows that but is getting paid by Ailes to suck this garbage up.
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    • Author by mmfa.fan (March 17, 2010 12:16 am ET)
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      No one is "pro abortion". Might as well say they are "anti life".
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      • Author by Sharpe (March 17, 2010 4:47 am ET)
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        I know. If you didnt know any better, you would think that senators get something out of promoting abortions. Its not about increasing the number of abortions. Its about having access to it if it is absolutely necessary to have one.
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      • Author by whatIthink (March 17, 2010 8:35 am ET)
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        That's as misleading as "pro-life". They're not pro-life, they're pro-birth. All they care about is telling a woman what she can or cannor do with her body and trying to deny a legal medical procedure. After they force a woman to give birth, they could care less about the child. Ever notice anytime cuts in spending have to be made, especially when a republican is control, the first things they cut are programs designed to help the poor and less fortunate improve their lives? Their towering hypocrisy about calling themselves "pro-life" is only matched by their towering callousness towards life after birth.
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        • Author by bintx (March 17, 2010 9:58 am ET)
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          I am anti-abortion, pro-life and pro-choice. As a Christian, I don't believe that taking human life is acceptable . . . any human life. As an American, I understand that the government cannot force my Christian beliefs on people who don't share them. Abortion is legal in this country and has been for most of its history. Making it illegal will not make it go away. Women have been deliberately aborting fetuses since the beginning of time.
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    • Author by cghendricks973 (March 17, 2010 12:28 am ET)
         
      I am so sick and tired of hearing Hatch's vicious lies. It makes me ashamed to say that I live in Utah! Arrgh!
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    • Author by pilotx (March 17, 2010 1:09 am ET)
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      Shhhhhhhhh, if we sneak it in maybe they'll miss the manditory abortion clause.
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (March 17, 2010 1:22 am ET)
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        I like tacos!To make so much noise and say so little is is beyond ken(or Barbie).
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 17, 2010 2:45 am ET)
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      And people talk about suicide bombers and ied's in the Middle East.
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    • Author by Sharpe (March 17, 2010 4:45 am ET)
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      You have to buy a federal program under this bill? Really?

      Of course, there is always that little inconvenient matter of proof.
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    • Author by shaggles (March 17, 2010 11:44 am ET)
         
      Anyone who thinks that is an idiot. Pelosi said it at the healthcare summit: Not federal funding for abortion is "the law of the land."
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