Rush on health care passage: "We're three days away from the United States of America being over as we've all known it"
March 17, 2010 2:51 pm ET
From the March 17 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
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...It did. A while ago.
Why am I getting the sense that we are actually paying for your (mental?) health insurance?
Why am I getting the sense that we are actually paying for your (mental?) health insurance?
If I don't want healthcare that is my choice.
Why? Why do the rest of us have to pay for it. You pay your bills - I pay mine.
If you can't afford your bills, that is not my problem. Work harder - get a second job. My grandfather had 3 jobs when he first came to this country. He didn't come here to whine or look for a handout. If you are unemployed for more than a few weeks chances are you are just plain lazy.
unless you won't go to the emergency room if you get sick and you don't have health care.... planning on dying at home.
If you don't pay your doctor bills, those costs are passed on to the rest of us in the way of increased health care costs represented by actual fees and increased insurance premiums. Doctors and hospitals don't just eat those costs . . . they up their fees to cover them.
Stupid response, Dr. TA, really childish.
I've been gainfully employed longer than you've been alive.
Good work, Scooby Doo!
I paid in the form of the labor I give to my employer who purchases an insurance policy for me in return.
Shut up.
I doubt that. How would you know anyway?
"If you can't afford your bills, that is not my problem. Work harder - get a second job. My grandfather had 3 jobs when he first came to this country. He didn't come here to whine or look for a handout. If you are unemployed for more than a few weeks chances are you are just plain lazy"
You have got to be my 18 year old, everything handed to me, college student I deal with every day.
You cannot save enough money or prepare enough to pay medical expenses. It cost, my Dr. at least and I have insurance, $115 a visit (I pay $20). I have a friend who has no insurance. He had his gallbladder removed and he is 32 and the operation and stay cost $68,000. Get another job? You idiot. You snot nosed stupid fool. I have another person that I know that had thyroid cancer at 28 and is now stuck on an insurance plan with a $10,000 deductible because he is uninsurable and his premiums keep going up. His CT scans every 6 months cost 8,000 which is 2,000 under his deductible. He could have 10 jobs and never pay his medical bills. Another older friend has had 11 hernia operations and is well into the hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. He is a school teacher and his wife is a counselor and they cannot pay their medical bills.
Guess who is going to have to pay these bills. ME AND YOU A**HOLE. That is why if we had a system that everyone paid into and we all used, and eliminated for profit insurance it would keep cost down, we would spend less, and get better outcomes. I am sorry, but people like you push my patience to the max.
Provide for the general welfare (multiple times not including the preamble.)
National defense a sick nation is not able to defend itself.
Now go back to your little dream world and leave the real people alone.
I do legal research for a living . . . nice try, though. You really MUST source your Wiki research better and understand the topics being discussed.
YOu never did answer my question about selective incorporation and subsnative due process. Is it because it is well over your head, Scooby?
I use Westlaw, we do not use Lexus/Nexus in our office. I was in training yesterday for the new Westlaw Next program which will streamline online legal research. It's impressive . . . sort of a Google for legal researchers. No need for terms and connectors and uses a more precise language search than a natural language search. Works on pretty much the same principle as Google and is more Windows friendly. I still have to do a little library research from time to time, though, because our firm doesn't subscribe to a couple of secondary sources like CJS and Am.Jur. on Westlaw. I actually miss having to Shepardize case law by the book. With Westlaw Next, won't be necessary at all.
BTW, you still haven't admitted that you were incorrect in your post yesterday. Military installations are NOT considered American soil.
As far as the rest . . . don't recall you asking me. And, not, it's not "over my head." Keep pretending, BJ, keep pretending. Nobody's buying it.
If I were to claim that the Union won the civil war and you search for Civil War on wikipedia and it verifies that the Union did indeed win, that does not mean I used wikipedia as a source.
You are intellectually lazy and dishonest.
In college NINETEEN years ago in a question on a final exam for a class in Constitutional History one of the questions was:
"Discuss the development of substantive due process, selective incorporation and fundamental fairness. To what extent did the Warren Court build on Powell vs. Alabama and Palko vs. Connecticut to incorporate civil rights to apply to the states. Was the Warren Court correct in applying these precedents? Why or why not?"
As I said I answered this NINETEEN years ago w/o benefit of looking up or researching anything (it was a final exam).
Since you are such a legal genius you should have no problem answering this without having to look anything up.
Nice try and grow up.
Now you grow up
You're an idiot. I thought you were just on here trying to rile people up..now I realize you are sincere and, thus, an idiot. The only health care being run by the government is Medicare, Medicaid, and the Veteran's benefits....which of those are you and your shrinking Party asking to do away with? All of them? The only folks I see wanting the government to intervene in personal medical decisions are the anti-choice folks.
I would keep veteran's benefits because we have an obligation to those who fought for our freedom. We owe them. We owe people on Medicare and especially Medicaid absolutely nothing.
If you can show me where healthcare appears in teh Constitution I will retract my statement. Healthcare is like abortion in that the Constitution does not mention either of them as a right.
Making abortion illegal again won't stop it, Dr. TP. Abortion has been with us since the beginning of time.
Perhaps not, but it will reduce it. If women can't get abortions that are safe, perhaps they will be more reticent to have an abortion.
If a woman is facing potential time in prison, it might dissuade her. By criminalizing abortion, we can certainly reduce it. It we made an example of one woman - perhaps a 40 year prison sentence - who had an abortion, it would have a chilling effect on anyone else seeking an abortion ----- this most certainly would limit the number of abortions.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bank-ah.asp
I would encourage everyone to read it, because it is certainly relevant today.
As for abortion, the Constitution doesn't mention it, but the Supreme Court and scholars agree that there is a inherent right to privacy in the Constitution, though not specifically mentioned. Some scholars point to the Bill of Rights which address privacy of beliefs, personal property, etc. Others, like the Supreme Court stress the due process clause of the 14th Amendment.
Your challenge to show where the Constitution mentions healthcare or abortions is somewhat juvenile, because we all know that they are not specifically mentioned. Much like the internet, assault rifles, slavery, and a host of other things were or are not mentioned. That is where precedent and interpretation come into play.
Strict construction is another word for I don't want to think, much like judicial activism is another word for I don't agree with the ruling. If the founders wanted us to strictly interpret every word based on their intent why did they immediately begin to disagree on their intent after the Constitution's ratification?
The right to an abortion is found in Arthur Goldberg's absurd opinion in Griswold vs. COnnecticut. He writes of an "emanation of a penumbra". That does not strike me as solid Constitutional grounds.
I fail to see how killing a child is related to privacy.
There is no arguing with you is there? The founders wrote the 2nd Amendment at a time when the most advanced weapon could only be fired three times in one minute. You don't think that there is room for interpretation in the second amendment for technological advances in weaponry? You don't think that a waiting limit when buying a handgun is not a reasonable compromise between your right to bear arms and the government protecting its citizens (which is the most solemn duty it has)? Or that some arms are declared illegal to own, such as mortars, Shermans, or Howitzers. I know, let's all mount a 50-cal on the back of our Hummer3.
You would argue that the first amendment protects the internet, but it is far from a settled issue, especially with terrorism, email, pornography and so on.
The issue with abortion is not killing children, it is the right of a woman to make a private decision without the intrusion of politicians in Washington. Funny to me that you don't want anyone rationing your healthcare (even though insurance companies do it, but that is for another time) or any politician coming in between your doctor and you, but you will specifically put a politician between a woman and her right to make a decision on abortion with her doctor and whomever or whatever she prays to.
Force majure is a legal term usually used within contracts and are typically in insurance... (how appropriate)
You are a fraud BJF... plain and simple
Not all rights in the constitution are enumerated... if we relied on enumerated rights we would not have clean food, clean water, police and fire protection...
you are a child who doesn't understand what enlightened self interest means... you are an individual living within a society.
force majure That is not a typo. You spelled it wrong several times. You are a poser, a braggart, and a show off and a plagiarist. You are also a howling bigot and certifiably insane!!!
You say stupid things and racist things. You act like a snot-nosed paste-eating child.
Bobby Jindal called, and he would like his name back. You have misused it long enough.
Force Majeure is a legal term that literally means "greater force" or "superior force" but is a common clause in a contract that is used to excuse a party from liability, typically defined as "act of God", or some kind of extraordinary event.
Whatever you think it means, it's in the wrong context.
Man, I was out of HS before this brat was born!
The determination of Roe V. Wade did not make an abortion a right, but struck down existing laws as being un-constitutional.
Here is the deal BJ and I know you are going to completely disagree with me, but I feel it must be said. You live in a country and in a community. In order for all of us to have a marginal level of success in our lives then we require a few things. I pay property taxes so that kids can go to school. They need that education to further themselves and to help make this nation a better place for all of us. This is part of my duty as a citizen of this country. It was done for me and it will be done buy my children. The elderly, on the other hand, have worked hard all their lives and they deserve to be taken care of when their medical situation requires it. I really don't care to return to the days when the elderly were living in absolute poverty because they needed medical care and couldn't afford it.
Medicaid helps the poor who frankly, just need help sometimes. I want a poor mother to receive pre-natal care and a kid to be treated for his ear infection. Just because someone cannot afford care doesn't mean they shouldn't receive it.
He's a fraud.
Now go change your underwear and take some deep breaths.
Most of my business is south of the border (I'm a capitalist!) so I know and am friends with many Americans. The most common fear that I hear from those opposed to reform is "I don't want the government making decisions for me. I want to chose my own doctor. I don't want to be told what I can and can't eat...". They are usually quite shocked to hear that we do get to chose our own doctors, we decided when we want to see them, the government does not tell us what we can or cannot eat..etc, etc.
One of my best friends had to claim bankruptcy due to some emergency surgery for her back. She has insurance and has been paying into it for years. They declined her claim because she had a snowboard injury many years ago in Canada (not that the Canada part has any bearing...I just love my Canada). She has had to close her business, effectively forcing 12 people out of work.
Healthcare should and must be a right. How can a sick nation prosper? I assure you Canadians are amazed that the citizens of the US do not have a system that looks after everyone. Second on the list is the whole 2nd amendment thingy. You have the right to carry firearmes but not to health? Seems so odd to me.
Same whine. Different day.
Maybe we aren't so great if that is the truth.
Every. Single. Day. Nothing but talking points. No original thought.
As much as I disagree with RightON, at least he usually breaks out of the usual talking point spamming. The rest of you are incredibly predictable.
Let me ask...do you get a little tingle down your leg every time you post some more regurgitation of the echo chamber? I bet you do...
Just don't pull any muscles while you're patting yourself on the back for driving this country's discourse farther from critical thought.
Seahawks, you really do need to turn of Fox/hate talk radio. It's not good for your health. You don't seem to have the ability to discern the difference between truth and lies.
Seahawks, you really do need to turn of Fox/hate talk radio. It's not good for your health. You don't seem to have the ability to discern the difference between truth and lies.
If I've refused to answer some charge you've leveled against me, it's probably because you bored me to death (or possibly, knowing you, because I could not understand your stream of consciousness nonsensical writing style that you slip into). Do you think I'm just saying that to mock you? No, honestly, you ARE predictable to the point of boredom.
A clue, seahawks, none of that stuff is true and none of it has a DA*NED thing to do with being "conservative.
You do realize that every time you post that RINO nonsense, you show how stupid you really are, right? Being a conservative has nothing to do with supporting a political club.
Carry on with your inane comments, seahawks. I truly believe that you have absolutely NO clue what the hell you're talking about. You just post what you've heard on Fox/hate talk radio.
There is nothing inherently good or bad with either conservatism or liberalism [now labeled with that SCARY term "progressivism."]. You really do need to turn the hatemongers off. They aren't conservatives.
Your belief structure seems to be more authoritarian than conservative. You will hate whomever the figures you deem to be authoritative tells you to hate . . . unquestioned. That's not conservatism.
LOL!!!! No venom in my post, seahawks. And, no, I had a wonderful childhood with wonderful parents who taught me that I shouldn't believe everything I heard without question. They taught me to "look it up," when I had questions.
My parents have been married for almost 62 years. Great people who have been grandparents for many, many children at the private Christian school where they worked for over 20 years.
Nice try, though, seahawks. Just for the record, posts like yours don't bother me in the least except to make me sad for you.
Real Americans [TM Faux News]
RINO
Democrats.
Since I dropped all parties years ago because of dislike of both*, I guess I'm a 'RINO' because you can't conceive of anything else.
*Actually, my last Party was Libertarian.
You'd love it if there were no more opposing views to your extreme right-wing agenda. Let you run everything--with no elections, no debate, no alternate ideas. Can you say North Korea or USSR?
The sky is falling! The sky is falling! says Chicken Little Rushie.