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Doocy: "Can you really rely on the numbers the Congressional Budget Office comes out with?"

March 19, 2010 6:47 am ET

From the March 19 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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    • Author by epkklk851 (March 19, 2010 7:08 am ET)
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      Doofy has worked for Faux Noise for so long that he doesn't recognize the truth when he sees it. So, sad.
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    • Author by afriend (March 19, 2010 7:09 am ET)
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      no, I don't trust the CBO numbers...I trust Fox...LOL..Dooce-bag, you lose again.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (March 19, 2010 8:30 am ET)
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        Yea, me too...I definitely trust FOX more. Especially Steve Doocy. ;>)
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    • Author by goesto11 (March 19, 2010 7:13 am ET)
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      Not when those CBO numbers favor Obama, dammit!
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    • Author by New Frontier (March 19, 2010 7:30 am ET)
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      Can you really rely on Fox News to put a pro-Republican, anti-"Democrat Party" spin on everything? Yes.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (March 19, 2010 7:32 am ET)
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      How accurate the CBO numbers maybe should be questioned a bit, but at least the Democrats are making a good effort at trying to cost out a bill. Back in the 90's when they used "Pay-Go", it resulted in huge surpluses.

      Then along came the Republicans, and all they knew how to do was to slap a credit card down on the counter to pay for things. Like the 1.3 trillion dollar first round of Bush tax cuts. 400 billion or so for the second round of tax cuts. Another 300 or 400 billion for the prescription drug benefit, which was really a full employment act for big pharma. Lets not forget the credit card balance on the Iraq war. The bill for that one is not done.
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 19, 2010 8:50 am ET)
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        The CBO numbers are an estimate based on CURRENT LAW, not the law in 2014, 2018, and 2020, the years that ObamaCare kicks in.

        Not to mention the CBO magically lost 60 billion dollars from their estimate from a few weeks back to come in under the 1Trillion threshold. How convenient for Barry and the minions selling this boondoggle of a bill. Double counting the premiums for long term care policies and Medicare cuts got them over the hump.

        The CBO is the best guess for the numbers that they receive, they don't just pick this data out of thin air. Garbage in, garbage out.

        One more thing...the "supposed" budget savings ($138 billion) will be gobbled up when $371 billion is spent on physician fee's which by the way ARE NOT COUNTED against the health bill. Using our higher math...371 billion - 138 billion = Saving?

        Only in dem dreamland...
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        • Author by usp (March 19, 2010 9:43 am ET)
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          yea, numbers crunching like that was kind of a bush trademark- remember when they re-evaluated the unemployed and decided to stop counting those people who had been out of work longer than 16(?) weeks? Made the numbers look much much better. magic!

          this sure seems a little bit more honest than that whole unemployed purge game.
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          • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (March 19, 2010 4:37 pm ET)
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            How about when the Bush administration proposed to include people making hamburgers at fast food restaurants as manufacturing jobs?
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        • Author by punkin (March 19, 2010 9:45 am ET)
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          Tbone Sickens (change of spelling intended) Negative lying people like you "sicken" me alright. You make me sick because you blindy, narrow mindedly believe every lie that comes from the RW talking heads, "if it smears the left then it has got to be true" is your motto. WAKE UP! try researching rather than repeating false talking points
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          • Author by christopher howard (March 19, 2010 9:48 am ET)
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            Slickens was the dimwit who was here a while back trying to pass off stupid Dan Quayle quotes as Al Gore quotes. He was either really misinformed or lying, not sure which.
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            • Author by okiepoli (March 19, 2010 11:01 am ET)
                 
              He was either really misinformed or lying, not sure which.


              Not mutually exclusive, BTW.
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            • Author by John Paradox (March 19, 2010 7:36 pm ET)
                 
              I wonder if he was also the one who attributed a pair of quotes to Barry Goldwater, with the first (IIRC.. been a long time) actually Hubert Humphrey, and the second Goldwater paraphrasing an ancient Greek?
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        • Author by RKAllen (March 19, 2010 9:51 am ET)
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          Of course the Republicans were never stopped when the CBO reported defcit spendings with things like the Bush tax cuts, which the CBO report said would increase the deficit by 1.7 trillion dollars... and the Republicans passed it anyway.

          Boehner alone is responsible for more than 2 trillion dollars in deficit spending, AFTER the CBO reported that a deficit would occur before passage of three separate bills. Now, all of a sudden, we are suppose to listen to these "deficit hawks" about their opinions of the CBO when they put out a report that the deficit will be cut by this HC reform bill.

          At least the Democrats are doing what they can to get this bill payed for before they pass it and have a far better score than any plans put forward by Republicans that have all scored as increasing the national deficit.
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      • Author by internet soldier (March 19, 2010 9:13 am ET)
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        Not only that, Bush cooked the books on his deficits by stealing from the social security surplus (A surplus that has been so big for so long, that despite this plundering and the looming retirement of the baby-boomers, it will be solvent for the forseeable future, but I digress) and by ommitting Iraq war spending from the official budget, and his deficits were still enormous. I remember expressing concern about the size of the deficit to a wingnut aquaintance of mine, and he would hear none of it. He insisted that it was not a problem at all, and that governments were always in debt.

        And guess what? Shockingly, he became a deficit hawk pretty much right after Obama's inauguration. And like any good republican, his fury is solely directed at programs which are meant to improve society, while he plays dumb about the primary reasons for America's bleak fiscal outlook: bloated military spending and Bush-era tax cuts. Fanaticism has forced the American right to become stupider than anyone could normally be.
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        • Author by keysmann (March 19, 2010 4:55 pm ET)
             
          Actually ghost, It was Clinton that started taking billions from SSA to help create the so called "Balanced Budget" even though the budget deficit never got below $17+ billion.

          Didn't you also catch the report where SSA is calling in all their IOU's that the Feds gave them? This is because they are no longer taking in more than is going out. With all the baby boomers coming into the system.....God help SSA.
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    • Author by tiredofit10 (March 19, 2010 7:58 am ET)
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      They were relied on every other administration. Why not this one?
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 19, 2010 9:43 am ET)
         
      Congressman Paul Ryan got owned in the meeting between President Obama,the republicans,and the democrats,for making this same statement.Congressman Ryan also seems to have forgot this.
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    • Author by Sharpe (March 19, 2010 11:34 am ET)
         
      You can rely on the CBO about as readily as you can rely on fox distorting reality to fit their political agenda...
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