Beck says Daily Show segment "was hysterical" but Stewart "continues to get it wrong"

Well Beck 'does a lot of reading', by which I think he has underlings find scary things for him to ramble about and he goes on as if he has read them himself. But I doubt it. A person with the history you have there isn't likely to be much of a reader. I mean, I don't think I know anyone with ADHD who can sit still for a minute, much less the time it takes to read a book. But then again his audience probably don't read much either, or at least read anything that disagrees with their pre-conceived notions about the world.

But that's what Glenn Beck is, Irony. In essence he's a masturbating baboon. He is paid to get on the air, and "noodle" with his jerk sidekick. They get a stream of consciousness thingy going and just think out loud. Any old Sh!t that comes to mind gets spewed on the air waves. Whatever comes to Becky's small mind gets blasted out into our living rooms.

Now most people may have a few somewhat bizarre thoughts. But they don't "noodle" them on air and get paid for it. It really is like he's performing masturbation. He does this to get some sort of release and the TV audience watches. Either in horror (the people with brains). Or they (the ones without brains) eat it up like this guy is some kind of freakin' oracle.

Also, the Rushbecks of this world take themselves far too seriously. That's why Colbert in particular remains funny.

Ugh. The guy's an unfunny goon and a torture fan.

Oh yeah.Crowder is funnier than an ejector seat in a helicoptor.

Who's Steven Crowder?

Wrong again Maggie!

Sorry mate, you've just demonstrated the point. Learn this: being nasty is not the same as being funny.

I agree but the point is that this bill is very likely to make no impact on the deficit or a small positive impact AND IT INSURES 30 MILLION PEOPLE. That is a pretty solid deal by all accounts. The CBO also said 80 percent of current insurance plans will go down.

The CBO can only score legislation that's being proposed now. I'm sure if there is more to come later on, the CBO will score that too. Also, when the public option was included in the House bill, it lowered the cost.

The CBO numbers are NOT bogus.

The CBO numbers aren't describing some non-existent HCR bill, you fool.

They don't make predictions on potential bills. They make predictions on REAL things.

The CBO projection is for the configuration that is there RIGHT NOW. That's what the CBO does.

So if the bill changes, the CBO will have to do a REVISED projection.

This is not rocket science - how come I've had to explain this to you at least 3 times now?

The CBO said the public option significantly lowered the cost of the bill - by about 100 - 200 billion I believe. And that was in the house bill that hasnt been discussed in weeks if not months. This was scoring the senate bill and reconciliation. No public option will be included in the bill. The only changes would be if the senate wanted to change the reconciliation amendments which would then have to go back to the house or if the GOP passed an amendment to the actual bill which I find doubtful. If the CBO score does change after this, it will be by a very insignificant amount as the basic points are essentially etched in stone at this point.

Which is exactly why those CBO numbers are bogus.

They're "bogus" exactly because the wingnuts don't like the numbers. Only for that reason and that reason only.

Yup obama has been dangerously deaf to the cries from his most ardent supporters. His inability to stand up for anything that progressives believe in against strong opposition has become apparent. He has caved at every sign of threat - treating the GOP as if some bipartisan bill could be made for an entire yr and letting baucus try to achieve it in committee for months and months resulting in this endless process as well as his inability to use single payer as a bargaining chip and his unwillingness to tell congress he would not sign a bill without an option which was a campaign promise. He has also essentially ignored the issue of gay marriage and civil unions personally and allowed his DOJ to defend the defense of marriage act publicly (which he campaigned to repeal.)

He has also failed miserably to take advantage of wall streets weak position by demanding or implementing financial reform a year ago which showed disregard for wall streets incredibly lobbying power. He brokered a deal with big pharma to not allow importation of prescription drugs which essentially meant no dramatically lower drug prices for america on the ridiculous claim that the FDA hadn't approved them and yet, we import food from other countries somehow. He also may have brokered a deal with a hospital lobbyist group to ensure there was no public option in the bill from the start - sounds about right considering the last time he talked about wanting it was almost a year ago and even then he said it was not necessary. Obama is not a socialist, not a progressive, he is a centrists. 15 years ago, republicans could have written this reform bill.