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Campaign arm: Hannity guest Stock warns Rep. Titus: If you vote for health bill, "Dina, you're out"

March 19, 2010 11:45 pm ET

From the March 19 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

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    • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 19, 2010 11:51 pm ET)
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      Of course she is gone. So are Boccieri, Boyd, and everyone else in a marginal district who voted for this. She sealed her fate. Charlie Wilson is toast - Altmire saved himself today.
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      • Author by soze169880 (March 19, 2010 11:55 pm ET)
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        And yea, the Beej hath spoken. Now go forth, and pleasure thy self to Photoshops of what Sarah Palin and Reagan's child would look like.
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        • Author by usp (March 19, 2010 11:56 pm ET)
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          oh my. i think that hurt me. that's a bad, bad image.
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          • Author by soze169880 (March 19, 2010 11:57 pm ET)
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            "Which enemy nation did you illegally sell arms to?"
            "Oh, gee, all of 'em!"
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            • Author by usp (March 19, 2010 11:59 pm ET)
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              can we have old O. North give us some background on that?
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              • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:27 am ET)
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                Col. North is a hero and a patriot. I thought diverting the proceeds of the Iranian sales to fund the Nicaraguan Democratic Resistance was a brilliant move. I am glad we had such creative thinkers such as Col. North who had the foresight to do so. I am glad he funded the Nicaraguan Democratic resistance.
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                • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:31 am ET)
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                  Oliver North is a worthless traitor who should be pacing the prison yard because it hurts too bad to sit down.
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                  • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:54 am ET)
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                    NIcaragua was a free country for 15 years (until Ortega took over again) because of the selfless heroic actions of Col North.

                    I remember watching the Iran-Contra hearings in the summer of 1987. I became a big fan of Dick Cheney due to his line of questioning of Col North. Yes, I have been a Cheney fan for 23 years.
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                    • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:56 am ET)
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                      Do you have any heroes who AREN'T war criminals?
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                      • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:59 am ET)
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                        GWB (before TARP). Dick Cheney is not a war criminal. Neither are Pope John Paul II, Benedict SVI, Christoph Cardinal Schoenbrun, George Weigel, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Steve King, Mike Pence, Paul Ryan, Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn, Rush, Mark Levin, Glenn Beck, Grover Norquist, Friedrich von Hayek, Milton Freidman, Ludwig von Mises, Margaret Thatcher, George Patton, Ronaldus Magnus, Lech Walesa, Vaclav Havel, or Francisco Franco.
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                        • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 1:05 am ET)
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                          Francisco Franco wasn't just a war criminal, he was a fascist and Hitler's butt-buddy.
                          Sorry, troll, Patton's a war criminal. He deliberately instructed men under his command to kill civilians and unarmed prisoners.
                          The fact that you can cite Bloody Maggie as your hero just proves you're lying about being Irish on top of everything else.
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                          • Author by John Paradox (March 20, 2010 1:15 am ET)
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                            Francisco Franco: still dead.
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                            • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 1:17 am ET)
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                              Ronnie Boy's still dead too, no matter how desperately BJ wishes for her to rip off her wig and breasts to reveal the glory of Zombie Reagan underneath.
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                            • Author by Bongo Fury (March 20, 2010 1:48 am ET)
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                              O'Franco I believe.Nice National Lampoon JP.
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                            • Author by manndan (March 20, 2010 9:08 am ET)
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                              Not in Bollywood Gilligan Fan's world.
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                          • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 1:51 am ET)
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                            You don't have the slightest idea who Gen. Franco was. The Generalissimo did more to save Jewish lives than any other human being in the world. He automatically granted any Jew who could reach any Spanish embassy or consulate anywhere in the world Spanish citizenship and asylum in Spain - which saved their lives.

                            When asked if he was afraid of offending Hitler, he replied that he would rather run afoul with Hitler than afoul with God.

                            Gen. Franco was a devoutly religious man. He nourished the growth of Opus Dei which is one of the most pro-Zionist organizations in the world.

                            Gen. Franco saved his countryy from the Communist. My grandfather-in-law served in his Army. I have had many discussions with him in which he set the record straight. He said teh Generalissimo was kind, generous, and strong. My grandfather-in-law worships him. He has a portrait of the Pope and Gen. Franco proudly displayed in his home.
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                            • Author by Sharpe (March 20, 2010 2:09 am ET)
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                              Yea except he personally support hitler and the independent army from spain that fought with the nazis. And you could say the same thing about hitler - that he "saved" Germany from the communists. Granted, he didnt fight a war, he just killed them all in one night. But franco's government was no better than stalin's. In fact, they were essentially both the same thing - totalitarian dictatorships with strong nationalist overtone and they just chose the wording to fit their personal beliefs - diction does not change reality however. Both employed censorship and coercion to crush any dissidents. They both set up forced labor camps and prisons to hold their countless political enemies. It is laughable to say that franco was any more benevolent or opened to freedoms than stallin was. brutal authoritarian dictatorships that rule by supression and harsh penalties are the same no matter what they choose to call their government be it communist or fascist or nationalist or even democratic. Your grandfather in law was fed propaganda the entire time he was there. Everything in the state was controlled by franco including the education system, the media and the extent of foreign influence in the country through state-sponsored propaganda. Franco made sure everyone in the country thought he was kind and generous and strong or he just killed them or sent them to prisonor a labor camp for life.
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                              • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 10:11 am ET)
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                                Sharpe: Well stated. BJ is a perfect example of my long standing theory that if you scratch the paint on many rightwing so-called libertarians, you'll find raging authoritarians underneath.
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                            • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 9:52 am ET)
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                              "My grandfather-in-law worships him [Franco]. He has a portrait of the Pope and Gen. Franco proudly displayed in his home."

                              Wow. That explains a lot about you, BJ. Thanks for that disturbing look into your twisted upbringing.
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                            • Author by foghornleghorn (March 20, 2010 3:51 pm ET)
                                 
                              My grandfather-in-law served in his Army.

                              You're a fraud.
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                            • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 7:09 pm ET)
                                 
                              i have no idea how to reply. i should. but i have no idea.

                              did your gramps cower in a dark closet to talk about conditions...because they were afraid? i know those people. they are still alive. they are still spun out. i lived with those people. want to talk about the slaughter of the basque? of the catalan? do you know what i'm talking about? do you know where the red on the catalan flag comes from? blood.

                              franco was a bad, bad man. your grandfather? a pawn. francos army- much like hitler? raised from nationalist thugs. you want to take a guess where? i'll help you out. the shores of north africa- where most spanish did not support them- they came in and defeated town after town after town- gunning down the innocent farmers and peasants who were armed with shot guns and small caliber farm rifles.

                              get some humanity man. just get some. it's not about being right. it's about being better.

                              and no surprise the general made it up on the wall with the pope- pius was 'hitler's pope'. he said nothing about the rounding up of jews in italy. not a peep. as a matter of fact, from his window? he could see the tent camps. the jews who had fled to the vatican to be saved. you know what he did? nothing. he dared not.
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                          • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 1:53 am ET)
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                            Lady Thatcher never did anything against the Irish. The Irish and the Brits made their peace long ago. They are allies.

                            I was in Dublin on 9/11. I found it ironic that RAF fighters were patrolling the Irish skies at the request of the Taoiseach.
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                          • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 2:01 am ET)
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                            you're lying about being Irish on top of everything else.


                            Did I say Dublin? I meant Baie Atha Cliath.

                            My grandmother was born in Gaillimh (Galway).

                            I refer to Brian Cowan as the Taoiseach - not the prime minister.

                            You got me, I don't know the first thing about Eire.

                            Here is what my passport says:

                            Iarrann Aire Gnirgau Eachtracha na hEireann ar gach n-aon lena ligean da shealbhoir seo, saoranach d'Eirinn, gabhail ar aghaidh gan bhac gan agus gach cunamh agus caomhnu is ga a thabhairt don sealbhoir.

                            That leave you two alternatives: either I am fluent in Gaelic (in which case I surely have Irish ancestry) or I typed it verbatim from a passport (proving I am a citizen of Ireland).

                            Google has a translator - I date you cross check/translate what I just said.

                            It says The Minister for Foreign Affairs of Ireland requests all whom iit may concern to allow th bearer, a citizen of Ireland, to pass freely and without hindrance and to afford the bearer all necessary assistance and protection.

                            I DARE you to go to google translator and verify this translation. Care to retract your statement that I am not Irish?????
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                            • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 2:03 am ET)
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                              C'mon. I admitted that Sarah's Bridge to Nowhere explantion was dodgy. You can admit that you were wrong when you stated I am not Irish.
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                            • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 3:20 am ET)
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                              www.translate.google.comYour text to link here...

                              www.translate.google.com

                              Go for it sparky. Enter the translation and see if it is accurate. I dare you.
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                            • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 6:51 am ET)
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                              Google has a translator

                              Ah, the truth revealed.
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                              • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 1:45 am ET)
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                                Don't you ever tire of having your luch eaten out from underneath you? You just had your lunch eaten again. I made you look like an imbecile for claiming I am not Irish.

                                Every time you make a claim, I eviscerate you. You must either have low self esteem or be a masochist because you keep coming back for more.
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                                • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 1:58 am ET)
                                     
                                  Don't you ever tire of having your luch [sic] eaten out from underneath you?

                                  Not really. If I was sitting on my lunch, it can't have been that good to begin with.

                                  Every time you make a claim, I eviscerate you.

                                  Really? Like that time I claimed you hated Obama, you said you'd never said that, and it turned out you were lying?
                                  Or that time you claimed marriage wasn't "political", and then it turned out you had said the exact opposite with regard to Prop 8?
                                  Or that time you claimed the Quitbull never enforced making women pay for their rape kits and I provided several links proving otherwise?
                                  Or the time you claimed Failin' never lied, and I provided a lie she'd repeated ad nauseam, and even your irrational worship of her couldn't argue with that?
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                                  • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 11:11 am ET)
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                                    OK, you got me on the marriage/Prop 8 claim - I give you that. I never said I hated Obama - I said I despised him, I loathe him, I have a visceral contempt for him, and I have no respect for him. I never said I hated him. I don't know him.

                                    What is a quitbull - I have no idea what you are referencing. Falin' - are you referring to Sarah Palin? She has never lied.

                                    You are a fool. WIth the exception of the mariage issue I referenced earlier, you have never come close to touching any of my claims - yet I have eviscerated everything you have ever said.
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                                    • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 11:52 am ET)
                                         
                                      "How am I dishonest. I have never represented myself to be anything other than a right wing conservative. I hate Obama - I want him to fail. The government is my enemy."
                                      are you referring to Sarah Palin? She has never lied.

                                      "Thanks but no thanks on that bridge to nowheyurr!"

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                            • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 10:09 am ET)
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                              "I DARE you to go to google translator and verify this translation. Care to retract your statement that I am not Irish?????"

                              We don't care.
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                              • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 1:43 am ET)
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                                A fool claimed I was lying about being Irish and I made them look like a fool. I nuked their contention. I win again.
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                                • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 1:52 am ET)
                                     
                                  You "nuked" it? You copied and pasted something. There's no reason for me to believe anything you wrote, especially since you're a proven serial liar.
                                  And by the way, how about you being proven a liar on never claiming to hate Obama? Do you "win" that one too?
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                                • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 2:15 am ET)
                                     
                                  And for the record, BJ: Jesus Christ, I don't care if you're Irish or not. I never seriously thought you were lying (what a stupid thing to lie about); I was making the point that your perspective is so warped you can be Irish and somehow still be a fan of the embodiment of modern British colonialist fascism in Ireland.
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                            • Author by LittleFuzzy (March 20, 2010 4:53 pm ET)
                                 
                              So, you are, by your own admission, an Irish citizen who gets public health care for free (excepting the taxes you pay) who is opposed to the notion that the USA should have public health care.
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                              • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 1:15 am ET)
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                                I do not get healthare for free. I live and work in America. I recive a health insurance policy as part of my compensation from my employer. No freebies here.
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                                • Author by LittleFuzzy (March 22, 2010 12:56 am ET)
                                     
                                  That would go a long way to explaining your ignorance of American(USA, Central and Southern) history.

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                        • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 1:42 am ET)
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                          You have a love jones for Francisco Franco? Damn, you really are one sick jerk.

                          [http://www.theolivepress.es/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/franco_a_hitler.jpg]


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                          • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 2:10 am ET)
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                            You don't have the slightest idea who Gen. Franco was. He saved millions of lives.
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                            • Author by dirtylittlereligion (March 20, 2010 2:16 am ET)
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                              Hey also ran a brutal oppressive fascist regime. You dismiss his violations of human rights because he was a devout Catholic. I think that's disgusting. I prefer a lowly Eric Arthur Blair to your fascist Generalissimo, so I'm done fcuking around with you for now.
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                            • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 10:01 am ET)
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                              "You don't have the slightest idea who Gen. Franco was."

                              Yes I do. I'm a lifelong WWII buff with an intense interest in 19th and 20th Century European history. I have read about him extensively. This is why I know you are a phony anti-statist for swooning over him.
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                              • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 1:32 am ET)
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                                WW2 has very little to do with Gen. franco and Spain. If you are such an expert on WW2 you would know that Spain was not a participant.

                                If you want to know who Gen. Franco was, you must study the Spanish civil war.

                                He only relevent aspect of Gen. Franco vis-a-vis WW2 is that he saved the lives of millions of Jews. Without Franco's intervention, there may well have been 12 million Jews murdered instead of 6 million. Gen. Franco rarely gets credit for this, and this is sad.

                                My in-laws fought in Franco's army and served in his government. I think it is fair to say they know him reasonably well.
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                                • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 1:38 am ET)
                                     
                                  WAAAAAH. Yes, yes, it's very sad that no one addresses all the people repressive, fascist dictators DIDN'T murder. When will someone point out that Hitler never did anything particularly horrible to Haitians? And Stalin never had any Seminole Indians killed!
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                                • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 7:45 pm ET)
                                     
                                  maybe the pope actually SENT him the jews and we don't know about it yet...maybe THAT'S the Duce sent them and NOT to Germany or Poland! Yea yea THAT'S the ticket.
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                            • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 10:29 am ET)
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                              You, um, you recognize that other guy, Beej? The one he's clearly thrilled to be seen with? I can't wait for you to come back here talking about how many lives HE saved.
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                              • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 11:16 am ET)
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                                Franco is not Hitler. Joseph Kennedy supported Hitler as well - does not make the Kennedy family the scum of the earth. Errrr. stirke that -- never mind.
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                                • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 11:18 am ET)
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                                  I don't see anybody here denying that Franco saved the lives of millions of Jews.
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                                  • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 11:53 am ET)
                                       
                                    I don't deny that. Do you deny that he murdered countless dissidents, liberals and homosexuals?
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                                    • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 6:45 pm ET)
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                                      Many people died in teh Spanish Civil War. If someone on teh Republican side died in battle, that does not mean that Gen. Franco killed them.

                                      Many of the "dissidents" wre Communist insurrectionaries sent by Stalin - not really innocents.
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                                    • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 7:46 pm ET)
                                         
                                      thousands upon thousands of peasants.

                                      oh and toss a poet into the mix too.
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                                    • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 8:40 pm ET)
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                                      I admit that many people died in the Spanish Civil War. Undoubtedly some of them were dissidents, liberals, and homosexuals.
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                                • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 11:55 am ET)
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                                  I seem to recall JFK fighting in World War II. And if we're gonna use people's families against them, your hero George W. Bush's grandfather did business with Hitler throughout World War 2.
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                                  • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 6:50 pm ET)
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                                    You are wrong on so many liberals. George HW Bush courageously served his country in the Pacific - as did John F. Kennedy.

                                    JFK's father was a well known Nazi sympathizer. GWB's grandfather, Sen. Prescott Bush, was not.

                                    GWB is my hero???? Are you kidding me? In teh words of John McEnroe, "You can't possibly be serious!"

                                    I have railed against GWB on these threads. I probably criticize him even more harshly than you liberals do - just on another subject.

                                    I supported GWB on Iraq (and in hindsight he was right). However, GWB was grossly irresponsible with regard go spending (Medicare Part D is an abomanation), TARP, and bailouts.

                                    I voted for GWB twice and do not regret it as he was better than both Gore and Kerry. However, were there no 22nd Amendment, there is no way in hell I would have voted for him for a third term.

                                    My hero? YOu obviously have never read what I said about him. Why don't you try actually reading what I say before you criticize it.
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                                    • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 7:48 pm ET)
                                         
                                      bush 1 shot down a friendly plane. lucky W didn't do that. he forgot to show up. prescott? notorious capitalist. made buck. just like kennedy's old man making dough smuggling booze during prohibition. those people? pigs.
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                                      • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 8:42 pm ET)
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                                        I agree with everything you said following the word Prescott. Yes, Prescott Bush was a capitalist. I like capitalism, so good for him.

                                        Your "source" for the rumor that GWB went AWOL from his national guard responsibilities are memos from Dan Rather that have been proven beyond any doubt to be forgeries.
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                          • Author by internet soldier (March 20, 2010 8:50 am ET)
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                            Yeah, and he apparently, like glenn beck, he thinks liberals are the fascist ones. At this point, I hope to God he's a wingnut parody troll.
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                            • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 6:51 pm ET)
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                              Liberals believe in big government (as did the fascists). COnservatives believe in limited government.
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                              • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 8:56 pm ET)
                                   
                                Franco and Pinochet were both fascists. And does banning gay marriage not count as "limited government"?
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                                • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 22, 2010 12:04 am ET)
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                                  No. It counts as protecting traditional values. It is the radical leftists who are trying to use government to shove their perverted values down our throat.
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                                  • Author by internet soldier (March 22, 2010 1:46 am ET)
                                       
                                    It is the radical leftists who are trying to use government to shove their perverted values down our throat.


                                    Can you wingnuts please keep your fantasies private.
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                        • Author by Sharpe (March 20, 2010 1:54 am ET)
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                          Dick cheney is worse than a war criminal - he is responsible for the deaths of every single american soldier in iraq. Their blood will forever be on his hands whether he is officially charged or not. We all know he is one of the biggest mass murderers of this generation all in the name of oil profiteering. Dick cheney will pay for his war crimes while he is burning in hell.
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                        • Author by mdey (March 20, 2010 4:20 am ET)
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                          Photos on BJ Fans bedroom wall in his mommy's house include Franco, Hitler, and Mussolini.
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                          • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 6:53 am ET)
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                            Not to be confused with the ones under its mattress, which include Bible Spice and its mom.
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                          • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 7:49 pm ET)
                               
                            pulled from the teen rag Fascist Beat!
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                • Author by whatIthink (March 20, 2010 12:42 am ET)
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                  You mean the terrorists?

                  The Catholic Institute for International Relations summarized Contra operating procedures in their 1987 human rights report: "The record of the contras in the field, as opposed to their official professions of democratic faith, is one of consistent and bloody abuse of human rights, of murder, torture, mutilation, rape, arson, destruction and kidnapping."
                  An influential report on alleged Contra atrocities was issued by lawyer Reed Brody shortly before the 1985 U.S. Congressional vote on Contra aid. The report was soon published as a book, Contra Terror in Nicaragua (Brody, 1985). It charged that the Contras attacked purely civilian targets and that their tactics included murder, rape, beatings, kidnapping and disruption of harvests.

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                  • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:43 am ET)
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                    Obviously, anyone involved with that report isn't a REAL Catholic.
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                    • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:56 am ET)
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                      Precisely! I am glad you are starting to see the light. They spoke only for themselves - not the Church.
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                      • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:58 am ET)
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                        Tell me, troll, is there anyone who disagrees with you on anything that you consider a real Catholic?
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                        • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 2:13 am ET)
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                          is there anyone who disagrees with you on anything that you consider a real Catholic?


                          Absolutely! There is a whole heck of a lot more of what I don't know than I do.

                          I only said that liberation theologians and supporters of abortion are not real Catholics.
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                          • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 10:31 am ET)
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                            And here I thought the only requirement was believing that Jesus was crucified for our sins and rose from the dead. I guess not everyone can be as knowledgeable a theologian as you.
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                            • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 1:30 am ET)
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                              Not if you are a Maxist. Liberation theologians are - they are not Christian. They are Marxist disguised as Christians. This is why John Paul II banned liberation theology.
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                              • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 1:32 am ET)
                                   
                                If liberation theologians believe in the divinity of Christ, they're Christians. Unlike getting the church to acknowledge that pedophilia is bad, this isn't that difficult.
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                                • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 7:51 pm ET)
                                     
                                  do child molesting friars count as 'real catholics'? even if they frown on liberation theology?
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                          • Author by Ruby (March 20, 2010 2:14 pm ET)
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                            Do those 59,000 nuns count as real Catholics?
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                            • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 1:39 am ET)
                                 
                              Nope. They're girls, and BJfan is well aware that girls are icky.
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                              • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 11:20 am ET)
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                                Which is why I support a Palin-Bachmann ticket in 2012. Yeah, I'm a real misogynist.
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                                • Author by Ruby (March 21, 2010 1:49 pm ET)
                                     
                                  Are those 59,000 nuns real Catholics?
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                                  • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 6:44 pm ET)
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                                    The bishops speak for the Church.

                                    There are many groups which include Catholic in their name, but that does not mean that they speak for the Church -- they speak for themselves.

                                    Any organization with over one billion members is bound to have a few crackpots.

                                    These nuns may or may not be sincere, but they are certainly wrong.
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                                    • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 7:52 pm ET)
                                         
                                      bishops speak for the church. until they get slapped down by yonder pope...see the irish oh about 24 hours ago...
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                                      • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 8:46 pm ET)
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                                        Yes, that is precisely correct. The Holy Father has not spoken about the current bill destroying our healthcare system.

                                        In the absence of any word from the Pope, the bishops speak to the position of the Church. The American Catholic Bishops are stated clearly that no Catholic in good conscience can support this bill.

                                        There are many groups that use the word catholic in their title (most of them are leftist groups). Just because they have the name catholic in their titel does not mean they speak for the Church - the bishops do.

                                        The bishops oppose this bill, ergo the Catholic Church opposes this monstrosity of a bill.
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                                        • Author by Ruby (March 21, 2010 9:05 pm ET)
                                             
                                          Okay, so those 59,000 nuns who have devoted their lives to their faith no longer qualify as "real" Catholics. Got it.
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                                          • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 11:43 pm ET)
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                                            They certainly do not speak for the Church. They speak only for themselves. I certainly hope the Bishops punish them for this.
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                                • Author by Johaely (March 21, 2010 2:19 pm ET)
                                     
                                  Mainly because they are fanservice barbies with no original rhought, depth or personality.
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                                • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 8:58 pm ET)
                                     
                                  You spent most of a thread talking about nothing but how hot you think Bachmann is. You approvingly cited men whistling at her. You made jokes about spousal abuse, no matter how feebly you deny it. You oppose female clergy for no coherent reason. You're a misogynist.
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                                  • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 11:44 pm ET)
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                                    I have NEVER made a joke about spousal abuse. I do not think the topic is even remotely funny.

                                    I expressed my concern for Mrs. Harry Reid because I am a compassionate human being.
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                                  • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 11:47 pm ET)
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                                    You spent most of a thread talking about nothing but how hot you think Bachmann is.


                                    Most of the thread? Really? I made once reference that I think she is attractive (I did not mention the word hot) and I refernced her appearance (in a complimentary manner) only once. This constitutes "most of the thread" in your world?

                                    I oppose female clergy on very specific theological constructs. I think you are the misogynist because of all the nasty smears and character assassination against Sarah Palin.

                                    You have smeared her more than I have ever referenced Rep. Bachmann (and I have only referenced Re. Bachmann is the most flattering of terms).
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                          • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 7:50 pm ET)
                               
                            ha ha pontificate on bro! you're just like beck- lots of words. not much sense and less knowledge.
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                  • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:52 am ET)
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                    The Catholic Institution for INternational Relations are a group of Jesuits. They are liberation theologists. In other words they are both Marxists and heretics. It is not an official body of the Church. It is a bunch of leftist Jesuit nuts who speak only for themselves.
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                    • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:54 am ET)
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                      ...I hate being this right.
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                      • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:55 am ET)
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                        How could you hate being something you never have been?
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                        • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:56 am ET)
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                          I predicted you would respond to actual evidence by impugning the faith of those involved. That's exactly what you did.
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                • Author by raddave43 (March 20, 2010 1:55 am ET)
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                  Now I know you are a satirical person. Are you Colbert?
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                • Author by The_Cat (March 20, 2010 2:41 pm ET)
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                  Oh, yes, Bobby Jindal fan. Funding genocide in third world countries is the very height of patriotism.
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                  • Author by jjamele2880 (March 20, 2010 4:13 pm ET)
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                    His hero Franco also allowed Hitler and Mussolini to use the Spanish people for target practice, because it suited the interests of all three men.

                    Franco killed thousands upon thousands of innocent men, women and children to defeat the forces arrayed against him, but that's fine with BJ Fan, because Franco was a staunch anti-Communist.

                    In short, BJ Fan is a sick jerk who is either kidding with us, or needs seriously therapy.
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                    • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 11:22 am ET)
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                      Franco killed thousands upon thousands of innocent men


                      Many of these "innocents" were Communist insurrectionary terrorists sent by Stalin.
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                      • Author by worrierking (March 21, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
                           
                        Four word response.

                        BUT MOST WERE NOT!
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                        • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 8:00 pm ET)
                             
                          most were not? dude- they were dirt farmers- they could not read. they could not write. there was a king- and he lost power...and and and. and someone came along and said, 'look, there is a better way, if we pool our interests and work together we can form a community that will benefit us as a whole...not only one!'

                          and so they were communist. and so jindal-scum would have them die. in the summer heat. in the middle of the road. in the sand. because they were communists.

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                          • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 8:47 pm ET)
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                            If farms take up arms and become insurrectionists it is not the fault of the head of the army if the army kills them whilst being attacked by Communist insurrectionaries. If they didn't take up arms, they would not have died. They chose to take up arms against the government.
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                      • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 7:57 pm ET)
                           
                        never ever forget guernica. ever. if you want to associate yourself with that act? you are scum.
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                        • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 8:52 pm ET)
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                          All we know of Guernica was that Pablo Picasso painted a picture. Picasso was a known sympathizer of the Republicans. Picasso was safely tucked away in Paris when he painted that picture. He never witnessed anything. It is his interpretation of what happnened.

                          Republican fighters were holed up in GUernica and Gen. Franco called in airstrikes agianst them when they refused to surrender. If they had offered their surrender, the town would not have been bombed.

                          IT is no different that the battle of Fallujah. THe terrorists refused to surrender, the American soldiers went in and evicted them. It is not the fault of the Americans if civilians were killed in Fallujah - it is the fault of the terrorists who refused to surrender when surrounded. This is exactly the same as Guernica.
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            • Author by phredicles (March 19, 2010 11:59 pm ET)
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              Epic win.
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            • Author by dirtylittlereligion (March 20, 2010 12:08 am ET)
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              "and verily, the fellating of thy corporate interests did commenceth, whilst thee lowly peasants gnashed their teeth"


              Can I get a hallelujah!?
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            • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 20, 2010 12:12 am ET)
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              Sounds like an answer St. Ronnie Raygun would have given. LOL
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              • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:16 am ET)
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                And it would STILL get BJfan hot and bothered.
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                • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:29 am ET)
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                  Yes, it is true. I admit it. I adore Ronaldus Magnus. He was a great man and our greatest president since Lincoln.

                  The reason I so strongly support Sarah Palin is because she reminds me of him. She may not look like Ronaldus Magnus, but she certainly sounds like him.
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                  • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:33 am ET)
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                    I adore Ronaldus Magnus.

                    If you were gay
                    That'd be okay
                    I mean 'cause hey!
                    I'd like you anyway!
                    You can count on me
                    To always be
                    Beside you everyday
                    To tell you it's okay
                    You were just born that way
                    And as they, it's in your DNA,
                    You're gay.
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                  • Author by dirtylittlereligion (March 20, 2010 12:35 am ET)
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                    [http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb187/3amnoise/remembering_reagan.jpg?t=1269059702]
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                  • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:36 am ET)
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                    Oh, and
                    she certainly sounds like him.

                    Wow, we agree! I'll readily concede Sarah Palin sounds like she has Alzheimer's. We should hang out.
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                    • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:48 am ET)
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                      That is a cheap shot and a low blow against a past and future president.

                      The cartoon is absurd. Ronaldus Magnus never backed death squads in central America. He backed the democratically elected government of El Salvador and backed the heroic patriots fighting for their freedom against a brutal oppressive Communist regime in Nicaragua.

                      He sold arms to Iran in order to keep the war in balance. If the muslims are busy fighting each other they can't fight us. If sunnis and shia are fighting one another we and Israel are the true winner.

                      Ronaldus Magnus simply wanted to prolong the Iran-Iraq war. I am sure Otto von Bismarck would approve.

                      Using the procedes of the sales to Iran to support the Nicaraguan Democratic Resistance was a stroke of brilliance!

                      He did not hurt "workers" - a Communist term. He put the smack down on unions.
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                      • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:51 am ET)
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                        So you're readily conceding that your ideal world is all the brown people in the world killing one another. You're Teh Best Christian EVAR.
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                        • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 1:02 am ET)
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                          Yeah, that is a direct quote. I view the world from a similar prism as Otto von Bismarck (another one of my heros). He was a realist, a stragegist, and a believer or pursuing Prussian interests through realpolitik.
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                          • Author by phredicles (March 20, 2010 1:08 am ET)
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                            Didn't Bismarck, for all his many faults, introduce universal health coverage to Germany?
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                          • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 2:03 am ET)
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                            Soze: So you're readily conceding that your ideal world is all the brown people in the world killing one another.

                            Bobby Jindal fan: Yeah, that is a direct quote.

                            I hope you're all taking notes.
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                          • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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                            "I view the world from a similar prism as Otto von Bismarck (another one of my heros)."

                            Another strong government individual (for God's sake, he was propping up monarchy), but you continuously say how government should have very little roll. For a freedom loving 2010 no-government "conservative," you have some very odd heroes.
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                      • Author by dirtylittlereligion (March 20, 2010 1:04 am ET)
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                        Some consider those actions wrong or morally questionable. Not you of course, we all know you too well by now.

                        The Contras, whether you consider them "heroic" or not, are still not without evidence of rape, murder, and torture of civilians...charges Reagan consistently dismissed...just like all conservatives will dismiss evidence if it doesn't fit their preconceived notions.
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                        • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 1:07 am ET)
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                          No, see, rape, murder and torture of civilians are WHY BJ admires them. They're Randian supermen, you betcha.
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                          • Author by dirtylittlereligion (March 20, 2010 1:12 am ET)
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                            Well, sh!t. I shoulda guessed. My apologies BJ, I forgot who I was talking to. I guess when you're "right", you can rape and torture who you want....

                            Wow! I think I just got a glimpse into the conservative worldview by typing that.
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                            • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 1:47 am ET)
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                              He's certainly pro-torture, and now we know he loves Hitler's repressive buddy Franco. Hey, BJ Fan, I thought you were against "statists." They don't get more statist than Franco.
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                              • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 2:20 am ET)
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                                I am not a statist and I never said that Gen. Franco was a Jeffersonian democrat. I do not believe he would be the right man for the US - certainly not today. But he was the right man at the right time for Spain between 1936 and 1975.
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                                • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 10:03 am ET)
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                                  Tell that to all the people he summarily executed and to the families whose loved ones disappeared in the middle of the night.
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                        • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 2:16 am ET)
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                          Ronaldus Magnus dismissed the charges because they were total fabrications - invented by Communist sandinistas for propaganda.
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                      • Author by raddave43 (March 20, 2010 2:08 am ET)
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                        In spite of the fact he was the president of the SAG.
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                        • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 9:47 am ET)
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                          "I am not a statist and I never said that Gen. Franco was a Jeffersonian democrat. I do not believe he would be the right man for the US - certainly not today. But he was the right man at the right time for Spain between 1936 and 1975."

                          Translation: I hate statists unless they are my statists, the right kind of statists (preferably brutal and truly authoritarian rightwing dictators like Franco), but otherwise I'm a freedom loving libertarian who thinks Obama is a dictator. You are such an joke.
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                        • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 10:34 am ET)
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                          he was the president of the SAG

                          More like Ronaldus MARXUS, amirite folks??
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                  • Author by phredicles (March 20, 2010 1:06 am ET)
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                    "Ronaldus Magnus" - A sick joke, and I can think of plenty of more accurate sobriquets:
                    Ronaldus Senilis
                    Ronalus Stultifututus
                    Ronaldus Vetulus Pedens
                    Ronaldus Pilorum Oleosorum
                    Ronaldus Praedo
                    Ronaldus Podex
                    Ronaldus Irrumator Patriae
                    ...I'm sure there are others, too.
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                  • Author by Ruby (March 20, 2010 2:16 pm ET)
                       
                    I thought libertarians didn't care for Lincoln.
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                  • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 8:01 pm ET)
                       
                    sure he was a great guy. save for that whole trading with the enemy thing...i mean, other than that? what a guy!
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      • Author by Porkeater (March 19, 2010 11:55 pm ET)
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        Taking wagers, Jindal Fan?
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        • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:49 am ET)
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          To quote my favorite policitian.... You becha!

          Titus is T-O-A-S-T! YOu guyus are going to get massacred in November - that is the one silver lining should this monstrosity of a bill pass.
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          • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 12:52 am ET)
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            Who's your favorite politician? I knew this one FORMER politician who said "you betcha", but she got bored and quit.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (March 19, 2010 11:55 pm ET)
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        Isn't there a Bobby Jindal exorcism on Pay Per View tonight?
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        • Author by usp (March 19, 2010 11:56 pm ET)
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          reality show idea. tru religion!
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        • Author by marco21 (March 20, 2010 12:27 am ET)
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          I wish. Even with the religious magic and ridiculousness, it'd be more based in reality rhan the actual comments of Bj fan.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 20, 2010 12:10 am ET)
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        What some conservatives never realize is that even if some members of Congress lose their seats for voting yes on health care, their place in history will be forever preserved, and they'll be viewed as heroes by future generations. They will leave an indelible legacy. Americans still remember FDR for Social Security and LBJ for Medicare and Medicaid because people are still reaping the benefits of these pieces of legislation.

        Leave it to some conservatives like BJF to always measure only the short-term effects of legislative actions.
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        • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 12:51 am ET)
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          I know I remember FDR and LBJ. THeir programs were an unmitigated disaster. If these goons pass this healthcare takeover, their place in history will be preserved. It will be proximately similar to Benedict Arnold and John Andre.

          I measure the long term effects. It will ruin the best healthcare system in the world and put future generations into an economic death spiral from unsustainable debt.
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          • Author by dmhack (March 20, 2010 1:02 am ET)
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            Okay, BJ fan, we finally have an idea of how old you are. Sorry for being so rude to someone so old.
            While I'll admit to LBJ growing up, you win with FDR---way before my time. God bless you for serving in WW II.
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            • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 1:08 am ET)
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              If BJfan is part of the Greatest Generation, how the hell are we not all speaking German?
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              • Author by mescal (March 20, 2010 1:53 am ET)
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                Vas?
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              • Author by christopher howard (March 20, 2010 1:54 am ET)
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                He was a traitor trying to help the Germans, hence they lost the war. BJFan is our greatest inadvertent hero.
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            • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 20, 2010 2:18 am ET)
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              First I am 17 - now I am 80. Which one is it? I can't be both a teenager and an octagenarian simultaneously.
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              • Author by mescal (March 20, 2010 2:52 am ET)
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                My guess is that you're an immature old fart.
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              • Author by jjamele2880 (March 20, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
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                Most of use don't give a damn how old you are. You are a pathetic, anti-Democratic, authoritarian-worshipping, resume-inventing, knowledge-deficient ass. That's enough information for me.
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                • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 1:39 am ET)
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                  authoritarian?

                  I would cut government spending by at least 90%. I would phase out medcare, medicaid, and social security. I would make massive cuts in education, and abolish the Depts of Education, Labor, Commerce, Transportation, HHS, as well as the ATF and EPA. Cut with a scalpel or cut with a knife. I would MASSIVELY slash most every dollar in social spending with a chainsaw.

                  I would institute a FAIR tax and pass a constitutional amendment mandating a balanced budget. Any surpluses would automatically be returned to taxpayers in the form of rebates. Statist? I think not.

                  The government has a legitimate puroposes in protecting our rights. First among them is the right to life. I do support the government imprisoning people who commit murder regardless of whether the victim lives inside the womb or out.
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                  • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 1:44 am ET)
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                    BJ, weren't you supposed to Go Galt(tm) at some point? Not to tell you your business, but why is that taking so long?
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                    • Author by Bobby Jindal fan (March 21, 2010 11:26 am ET)
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                      I am going to go Galt by removing almost all of my money from the US and putting it in teh Cayman Islands so I do not have to pay much taxes to the BHO Marxist government.
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                      • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 8:10 pm ET)
                           
                        and congradulations- you have written enough words to complete a term paper just this after noon! you should have gone outside or something.

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                      • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 9:00 pm ET)
                           
                        Sure you are. [Pats troll on head] "And then I'm gonna be a cowboy, an' a spaceman, an' a race-car driver! VROOOM!"
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 20, 2010 8:46 am ET)
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        Even money according to Rassmussen.
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        • Author by soze169880 (March 20, 2010 10:34 am ET)
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          Right, because nothing says credibility like "according to Rassmussen".
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (March 20, 2010 12:18 pm ET)
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          Another pole for you.

          The GOP has had good sucess with their, fear medical reform, campaign.
          The benifits of this campaign remain to be seen. Except in BJF's world.
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    • Author by Sharpe (March 20, 2010 1:51 am ET)
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      The dems will lose seats whether they pass this bill or not. But at least if they pass this, the last year of crap will not all be for nothing.
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    • Author by toxicshock (March 20, 2010 10:11 am ET)
         
      If you don't like our country, you can just get out!

      ...Oh. I forgot. That's only OK when Republicans say it.
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    • Author by John Paradox (March 20, 2010 2:03 pm ET)
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      Someone's in the kitchen with Dina....
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      • Author by usp (March 21, 2010 8:11 pm ET)
           
        oh help me out. reading uncle tom's cabin right now for the first time. and there is a dina in the kitchen- is that what you refer to?
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        • Author by John Paradox (March 22, 2010 4:33 am ET)
             
          Actually, the song. AFAIK, there's no relation, but it could. After all, I'm not BJF and the source of all knowledge.

          /snark
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          • Author by John Paradox (March 22, 2010 4:37 am ET)
               
            Oops. The song is "I've been working on the railroad". I only remembered the section with 'Dina' when I saw the "Dina, you're out".
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