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Rove pushes fabrication that WH sending "unsolicited emails" about health care reform to federal employees

March 21, 2010 11:12 am ET

From the March 21 edition of ABC's This Week:

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    • Author by knowledgereigns (March 21, 2010 11:14 am ET)
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      I really wish you would show the response... UGH!
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      • Author by Bad News (March 21, 2010 11:30 am ET)
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        UGH!? Are you insinuating that Karl Rove is un-attractive?
        He's got more hair than Sarah Palin & i hear hers may be Radioactive.
        Whenever Carl Rove speaks he is actually committing a Crime.
        It's called lying to Federal Investigators that may someday see Carl doing time.

        Speak truth to power.


        Mr. News
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      • Author by punkin (March 21, 2010 1:48 pm ET)
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        I watched this show this morning. This particular allegation was amongst a bunch of flasehoods that Rove spewed and when David Plouffe tried to even answer one of them Rove immediately began talking over the top of him - again!.. Very poorly moderated by Jonathan Karl.
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    • Author by marco21 (March 21, 2010 11:17 am ET)
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      When Rove alleges illegality and ethical slight-of-hand, angels lose their wings. And puppies die.
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      • Author by Dradeeus (March 21, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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        Oh, someone lost their wings, alright.
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        • Author by allan.masri1047 (March 21, 2010 12:18 pm ET)
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          Whenever I consider whether to believe the possibility of a conspiracy theory, I ask myself how probable it would be without a conspiracy. The guy died in a small plane accident. Small planes crash more often than large plane, and more fatalities result. So I find it not at all improbable that the guy's death was an accident, not the result of a conspiracy for which there is no actual proof.
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          • Author by Dradeeus (March 21, 2010 12:47 pm ET)
               
            Conspiracy or not, I really wanted to hear what that man had to say about vote tampering. The investigation, as far as I know, has NOT dissipated due to his death, but without the key witness, it's a lot of hearsay and speculation.

            Not to mention that if it IS concluded there was vote tampering, Connel can be passed off as acting alone.
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        • Author by Unreality (March 21, 2010 3:27 pm ET)
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          initial NTSB report of accident and this final NTSB report

          Sadly, just a tragic accident in winter weather. Not much different than the Buffalo passenger plane accident or JFK, Jr's disoriented flight.

          Weather conditions noted "supercooled large droplet (SLD) icing" at the altitude he was flying. The Piper Cherokee 6 was instrument certified, but not suited for flying in icing conditions and this would cause a lot of pilot stress and fixation. See "What the Dog Saw" by Malcom Gladwell for a very good description of disoriented flying.

          Now, as for Rove...
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    • Author by dogbreath (March 21, 2010 11:17 am ET)
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      Says the Master of Threats and Hard-Ball Politics who is under indictment. . .
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (March 21, 2010 11:22 am ET)
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      Threats and hard ball politics...!!! Oh my...! ;>)
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (March 21, 2010 11:30 am ET)
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      BTW, Karl seems a little upset. Apparently, these guys really thought they were going to defeat health care reform. I would suspect they had hitched their prosepects in November entirely to defeating health care reform.

      Oooops...sorry, losers.
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      • Author by dogbreath (March 21, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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        I'm not crazy about this bill. It leaves alot to be desired, but seeing the wingnuts explode has been really entertaining over the course of the last week.
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        • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (March 21, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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          Agreed on both counts.

          The fact that a much better bill should have been passed far sooner shows that too many politicians are wholly owned by corporations.

          I'm only donating to liberals and liberal primary challengers from now on.
          ~
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      • Author by Unreality (March 21, 2010 3:33 pm ET)
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        Karl seems more unhinged than I've ever seen him. I'd welcome any video where he's more apoplectic and spittle producing.

        While I want Single Payer, I assert Rove sees the next 3 decades of Republican future in tatters.
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    • Author by MidnightWriter (March 21, 2010 11:32 am ET)
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      Rove has become my favorite reverse lie detector. If he says something is true we can be pretty certain that it is laughably false.
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      • Author by dogbreath (March 21, 2010 11:43 am ET)
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        He's right up there with ol' Dicky Cheney in that regard.
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      • Author by Sharpe (March 21, 2010 12:09 pm ET)
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        Rove lying is one of the few things that have become a virtual certainty these days.
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    • Author by soze169880 (March 21, 2010 11:36 am ET)
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      And as Karl proved, it's only okay to send out unsolicited emails if they say "Vote for Bush in the primaries because McCain is a filthy race-mixer".
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    • Author by mk3872 (March 21, 2010 11:39 am ET)
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      yes, this kind of politics is just waaaay too ugly, dirty and nasty for saint Rove. LOL!
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    • Author by epkklk851 (March 21, 2010 11:40 am ET)
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      My husband is a Federal employee and did not receive any message from the President. I am a Federal employee, too, but I'm away from my office (and e-mail for two weeks) but I will be checking. My bet is he is just lying.
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      • Author by dogbreath (March 21, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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        Oh no, epik. Rove never lies. Hahahhahahahaha!
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      • Author by Sharpe (March 21, 2010 12:10 pm ET)
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        Rove is just listing off his own crimes. I think he was trying to pin the felony he committed by firing eight attorney generals and using the external mail server to cover it up on obama.
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      • Author by DellDolly (March 21, 2010 2:41 pm ET)
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        It was an email sent out to people on a "whitehouse.gov" mailing list. Click on the link to read the White House's definitive smackdown of this false meme.

        It was a mailing list that people put themselves on, so some federal employees may have chosen to put themselves on that to get the emails.

        It's not some nefarious plot. They weren't unsolicited and there's nothing wrong with what the White House did.

        Rove mistakenly bought into the wild and baseless conspiracy theory that emails were sent OUT from the White House unsolicited. How unique and amazing that he'd buy into something like that, and then spread it around without even TRYING to vet the story to see if it were true.

        I need to have some formatted stuff to deal with articles about baseless conspiracy theories raised by Republicans it looks like! LOL
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        • Author by epkklk851 (March 21, 2010 3:43 pm ET)
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          Ah, the kernal of truth at the heart of a lie. But, yes, I think this is more reflective of the heart of Karl Rove than the White House. I think so many of these Conservative critics accuse the White House and the Democrats in Congress with ill-will and deep plots because they remember what they did or would do given the same positions of power and it bothers them because while they can dish it, they can't take it.
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          • Author by DellDolly (March 21, 2010 5:31 pm ET)
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            I too think it's often a case of projection on their part, and it does reek of hypocrisy!
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 21, 2010 12:02 pm ET)
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      and we got "unsolicited governabce " from his boss for eight years. And the pentagon got some unsilicited visits from Cheney. Emails is just one form of unsolicited communications. I am still getting emails from some " freedom " group telling me to be patriotic and call my representative to kill health care. Neat little button on the top left.
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    • Author by Sharpe (March 21, 2010 12:06 pm ET)
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      How ironic that rove of all people would be accusing someone of a federal crime. Rove should know considering his long and extensive history of criminal offenses. What is even more ironic that rove is accusing someone of using emails to perpetrate suck crimes - that just happens to be the very same medium by which rove should be behind bards for violating the hatch act and the presidential records act by using an external email server to dismiss attorney generals for political gain. Knowing rove, he is likely guilty of bribery too. I think whenever rove lists off felonies, he is just thinking about all the felonies this weasel had already perpetrated.
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    • Author by The_Cat (March 21, 2010 12:09 pm ET)
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      Hey Karl? Do you remember that health insurance company that used government supplied addresses to send out false and misleading information about health coverage reform, and how much hot water they got in? It wasn't even alleged to have happened, like you are alleging a falsehood here. But, since they are on your side, I'm pretty sure you just excused this behavior, right? After all, so long as you Faux Cons agree with the ends themselves, the means can include fraud, torture and even murder, and you don't really care. You spent eight years proving that.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (March 21, 2010 1:23 pm ET)
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      Rove pushes fabrication that WH sending "unsolicited emails" about health care reform to federal employees

      Why is he not in jail yet?
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    • Author by Quicksilver M.S (March 21, 2010 7:56 pm ET)
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      Rove, rove, rove your boat gently down the stream.
      Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
      Life is but a dream.

      What a Dream World you live in Carl!
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