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Shep Smith slams "Armageddon," "Marxists," "socialism" rhetoric: "The fringes believe it" then "do stupid things"

March 24, 2010 4:21 pm ET

From the March 24 edition of Fox News' Studio B:

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Previously:

Beck's "War": Fox Host Responds To Passage Of Health Care Reform With Violent Rhetoric\

"The end of America as you know it"

Shep Smith Confronts Steele On GOP Rhetoric

Beck: If health care passes, "don't we lose really the Democratic Party to the socialists?"

Asman: "We are moving towards socialism," independents are the last "hope for turning this around"

Hannity asks if "this very hour" -- "this hour" -- is when America turned "completely towards socialism"

Beck revives witch hunt to paint Obama advisers as Marxists, Maoists and communists

Is Fox News big enough for Shep Smith and Glenn Beck?

Smith to Wallace: "Do you even understand this Glenn Beck Friday? Cause I really don't"

Conservatives attack Shep Smith for his Holocaust museum shooting remarks, call for firing

Smith on DHS report and Holocaust Museum shooting: "It was a warning to us all, and it appears now they were right"

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    • Author by Mr. Katanga (March 24, 2010 4:24 pm ET)
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      Way to go Shep on calling them out!!! Alas, if you keep this up, you'll probably be fired from Fox for rocking their boat.
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      • Author by Bad News (March 24, 2010 4:38 pm ET)
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        Fired? That won't happen, They use Shepard Smith to look Legitimate.

        "You're not Fair & Balanced, But we have Shepard Smith"

        One Voice surrounded by 1000 Jackals gets drowned out.

        Shepard Smith should Quit and let Fox News fall into the Abyss.


        Mr. News
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        • Author by Quicksilver M.S (March 24, 2010 5:44 pm ET)
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          Sara PALIN!
          Is this what you had in mind when you TARGETED Dem.s in CONGRESS?
          DEATH THREATS AGAINIST 10 MEMBERS?
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          IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO STEP UP AND DENOUNCE THE VIOLENCE.. before some DIES!
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          • Author by Dradeeus (March 25, 2010 3:33 pm ET)
               
            No offense, but most of your posts sound like advertisements, not discussion. We don't need to be talked to like to like a chain email.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (March 25, 2010 9:35 am ET)
             
          Don't be fooled!

          Shep Smith represents a small voice of sort-of kind-of near the middle on a network that is over the top extreme right wing in it's coverage.
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        • Author by IllusionsOfMediaPropaganda (March 25, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
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          Exactly. It's part of their thoroughly tactical approach to brainwash the public. "Well yes we have conservative commentators, but, we have Shep, he's definitely not conservative!" I guess Murdoch used to use the same excuse with Greta and Colmes, though Greta was a Clinton-Democrat who has veered off into neo-con land since Obama was elected and Colmes has drifted into radio land.
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      • Author by jws6462720 (March 24, 2010 10:46 pm ET)
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        The world must be coming to an end as Beck has said many times. Some one on Fox said something intelligent for a change.
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      • Author by Lizinbklyn (March 25, 2010 10:23 am ET)
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        Shep really didn't call out FOX for banging this IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD drum . .

        And Cameron didn't answer Shep's question . .
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    • Author by nerzog (March 24, 2010 4:25 pm ET)
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      Something resembling real journalism... on FOX? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 24, 2010 4:26 pm ET)
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      Boehner is now " fringe " ???? Palin putting up targets on a map pointed at elected officials is coming from a GOP vice presidential candidate. .
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      • Author by blueline99 (March 24, 2010 5:02 pm ET)
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        Palin is no longer an ex VP candidate, she's a TV start. Reportedly signing a deal with the Discovery Channel for her own reality Alaska show...

        she's exposed to be what she really was... a celebrity.
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        • Author by nerzog (March 24, 2010 5:32 pm ET)
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          Did you mean "TV Tart?"

          She's a simple-minded twit who essentially won the lottery... merely because she's an attractive religious fanatic who was glib enough to win a couple of elections in a state with a population just above that of Memphis, Tennessee. She has no talent and no brains... perfect for Reality TV.
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        • Author by punkin (March 24, 2010 5:54 pm ET)
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          perhaps it's time to start a warning of something against the Sarah Palin reality show like the advertising boycot campaign against Beck. How can a supposedly wholesome family production company want to put on a reality show featuring a person that suggests use of violence against her perceived enemies
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        • Author by txthinker (March 24, 2010 6:19 pm ET)
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          Reportedly signing a deal with the Discovery Channel for her own reality Alaska show...

          "Caribou Barbie" and "reality" - talk about an oxymoron (with emphasis on the "moron").
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    • Author by fishgirl26 (March 24, 2010 4:26 pm ET)
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      Shep, again, the voice of reason over at Faux. Perhaps finally someone will listen and put the straight jacket on Beck!
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    • Author by Dradeeus (March 24, 2010 4:28 pm ET)
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      Even if you set the whole "they should denounce and reject every fringe action," I haven't really heard the left party leaders saying anything about the examples they gave.

      I do hear, however, right wing leaders going out to a rowdy crowd and congratulating them for being so "American," a big, consistent "keep up the good work."

      Even that's setting aside the numerous examples of direct, specifically extreme statements they give.
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      • Author by nosecohn (March 24, 2010 5:42 pm ET)
           
        It's worse than that. Fox News, which everyone knows is tightly associated with the Republican party, actively promotes the Tea Party movement. The most recent Republican party nominee was the featured speaker at the Tea Party convention. Yet you really don't hear a lot of Republicans or Fox News folks denouncing the fringe and violent tendencies expressed at some of these events.

        But you don't find Democratic leaders or left-leaning national media actively supporting the anti-globalization protestors.
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    • Author by progressivevoicedaily (March 24, 2010 4:31 pm ET)
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      That Carl cameron is a white wing shrill. Comparing earthfirst members on the left breaking windows to death threats and deliberately cutting a gas line in somebody's home are completely different things. These people on the right are nuts, and the people like this A**hole defending them are just as bad.
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      • Author by DellDolly (March 24, 2010 4:45 pm ET)
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        Boy, you nailed that. I was watching to see if FoxNews covered the gas line that was cut at the Congressman's brother's home (eventually it was covered by Shep Smith) and had to listen to Carl Cameron's false equivalencies that there are fringe groups on both sides.

        Crazies that wear black masks and attack WTO groups are NOT supported by mainstream Democratic politicians. Crazies that are on the right ARE supported by mainstream Republican politicians and pundits!
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        • Author by Hasa Diga Eebowai (March 24, 2010 4:59 pm ET)
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          Can you post one time WITHOUT at least one word in all-caps? It's becoming as predictable as Tommy/RightOn's "Why is this here?".
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          • Author by DellDolly (March 24, 2010 5:15 pm ET)
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            I do occasionally post without a word in caps, but since written language is not NEARLY as capable of showing emphasis as spoken language, I capitalize words that I want to emphasize.

            Feel free to continue to (apparently) object to me using capitalized words, just as I will free free to continue to use them.

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            • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (March 24, 2010 5:28 pm ET)
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              Point taken Dell. I tend to use italics for virtual inflection and written emphasis and save the caps for punching a word home. To each his own. Good post though.
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      • Author by MiG (March 24, 2010 4:57 pm ET)
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        Is this Carl Cameron?
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        • Author by MiniTru (March 24, 2010 5:53 pm ET)
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          Not at all. Stanley Jefferson had true comedic talent and genius.
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          • Author by grmce (March 25, 2010 9:20 am ET)
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            Ah yes, Stanley Jefferson and Julius Marx. How would Crazy Glenn handle that on his blackboard?
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    • Author by mistersnrub (March 24, 2010 4:31 pm ET)
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      Cameron is so full of it. This false equivalency thing is outrageous. Democratic congress members are not at WTO protests egging the protesters on. Bachmann, King, et al. are there, organizing these events. They are directly egging them on. Fox News is directly egging them on. Sarah Palin, the Republican VICE-PRESIDENTIAL candidate is putting up maps on facebook with rifle targets. This is not a matter on both sides, sorry buddy. It is YOUR side. This is not the work of a fringe group, the GOP is leading the charge.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 24, 2010 9:22 pm ET)
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        Exactly. Every chance the Congressional conservatives got on Sunday they were out on the balcony of the Capitol cheering on the tea party crowd. They even went as far as holding the Gadsen flag on the Capitol steps, a sure sign of promoting secession. I know they haven't forgotten about it this soon, so I know they are lying. Rachel Maddow replayed the tape showing these things on her show tonight.
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    • Author by dmhack (March 24, 2010 4:32 pm ET)
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      Carl wants us all to know that "fringy types" and the Republicans are very different.

      Someone show him the Harris poll on Republican beliefs. Carl, baby, the fringy-types are the Republican Party.
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    • Author by roland (March 24, 2010 4:35 pm ET)
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      Here we go agan with the "both sides do it" deflection. The difference is that there are no politicians or media figures on the left ginning up anger using such over-the-top inflammatory rhetoric. The WTO protesters? When's the last time anyone representing their viewpoints was interviewed on television or hosted a TV or radio talk show?

      It's like all those false-equivalent comparisons that are made between the Birthers and the so-called Truthers. As far as I know, the Truthers do not have much of a platform in either the media or politics from which to put their views forth. The Birthers, however, are so prevalent in both arenas that most of the Congressmen who were asked by reporters if they believed Obama was born in the US ran as fast as they could to avoid answering the question. I can guarantee that would not be the case if the same thing would happen to Democratic congressman if asked about 9/11 being an inside job.
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      • Author by ProgLib (March 24, 2010 4:44 pm ET)
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        Here we go agan with the "both sides do it" deflection.


        I guess Shep wants to keep his job (nobody knows why), so he has to say it's happening on both sides when it's only on one.
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        • Author by roland (March 24, 2010 4:49 pm ET)
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          I'm actually not angry at Shep but at Cameron. Shep is pretty fair-minded from what I can tell.
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          • Author by christopher howard (March 24, 2010 4:56 pm ET)
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            That's his role, the semi-feisty token liberal. It's not that I have anything against Shep but, let's face it, he's window dressing for the Fair & Balanced lie.
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            • Author by dogbreath (March 24, 2010 5:15 pm ET)
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              I agree, but this is the second time in as many days that Smith has spoken out against the overheated rhetoric, which let's be honest, is only occuring on the Right at this time. I get the feeling the Shep might be one of those at FOX who is not particularly happy with the direction they have been headed in over the course of the year. Of course, they have always been an organ of the Republican party, David Frum admitted as much, but they significantly off the rails now and not bothering to hide their agenda. It will be interesting to find out where he ends up when his contract expires.
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              • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (March 24, 2010 5:35 pm ET)
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                It will be interesting to find out where he ends up when his contract expires.

                On a news channel perhaps? I hear Shep gets good ratings so he can do well elsewhere. But he is Fox's last link to legitamacy.
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                • Author by christopher howard (March 24, 2010 6:13 pm ET)
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                  Well, except for that commie sympathizer, Bill O'Reilly.
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            • Author by nosecohn (March 24, 2010 5:48 pm ET)
                 
              You think Shep is a liberal? Wow. That just shows how far to the right this country has swung. I agree that he's often the only fair-minded person on the air over at Fox, but calling him a liberal is way overboard.
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        • Author by Conchobhar (March 24, 2010 4:53 pm ET)
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          I would bet that there's an Ailes directive requiring that "either from the left or from the right," be the theme of any report or discussion like this. As with everything Aileian, it's dishonest on its face.
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        • Author by SimonRusk (March 24, 2010 5:14 pm ET)
             
          I did think that Shep finished strong and made a pretty clear connnection to the GOP and the violence.
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        • Author by redrage (March 24, 2010 9:05 pm ET)
             
          I guess Shep wants to keep his job (nobody knows why), so he has to say it's happening on both sides when it's only on one.


          No doubt, the truth of his statements could easily be lost in the false equivalence here.
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    • Author by worrierking (March 24, 2010 5:07 pm ET)
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      I've studied the different ist-isms everyday in Glenn Beck's civics class. He's covered MarxIST and SocialIST and I'm waiting for him to tell me what AnarchISt means.

      All of my life, I've been wrong about MarxIST and SocialIST, but I thought that AnachIST's were people who believe the state unnecessary. The leftIST's demonstrating at the G8 meetings can't be Democrats since they don't believe in the state.

      When do we learn about Nihilists Glenn? Everything I know about them I learned from these guys.

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      • Author by dmhack (March 24, 2010 5:22 pm ET)
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        God, I love that movie.
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        • Author by fishgirl26 (March 24, 2010 5:38 pm ET)
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          Go to a Lewbowski-fest sometime..they are sooooo much fun:)
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        • Author by worrierking (March 24, 2010 7:11 pm ET)
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          I watched it again instead of the Oscars but it ended in time for me to flip over and just catch "The Dude's" acceptance speech.
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    • Author by cbcbcb (March 24, 2010 5:14 pm ET)
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      Fox would never fire Shep even though he actually is "fair and balanced" as the network claims all of its hosts are. The reason being, I think Shep is the highest paid cable news anchor.
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      • Author by nosecohn (March 24, 2010 5:50 pm ET)
           
        It seems like that would make them want to fire him. Get someone in there who will tow the party line at half the price.
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    • Author by Midnight Kevin (March 24, 2010 5:23 pm ET)
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      The left doesn't legitimize the fringe elements, such as the WTO protesters. The right, on the other hand, is constantly endorsing these crazies...
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      The Midnight Review
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    • Author by grn008702 (March 24, 2010 5:43 pm ET)
         
      I always find it very interesting how Michael Steel uses "ghetto" language every time he feels to be in trouble, however, he is part of the party that hates on the minority groups, huh!
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    • Author by Russ139 (March 25, 2010 12:08 am ET)
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      It is refreshing to see Smith question these things. I hope he keeps it up. But, in their exchage, Cameron danced around him like a cheap stripper.

      Shep was clearly focusing on the right-wing incidents of recent days, and implying that someone might go out there and start shooting things up.... while Cameron (staying on the Fox message) brought it immediately back into a 50/50 thing in which Democrats and Republicans are equally challenged by their respective fringes. He then went on to criticize the MSM for blowing the violence aspect of the Town Hall meetings out of proportion by twisting the facts (now there's a surprise!) and accusing the MSM of over covering the few arrested citizens. In fact, the MSM was covering the shouting and interupting - not any arrests, which of course, was very widespread.

      Smith, knowing that Cameron had completly ignored the question, made sure to repeat it clearly before ending the segment.

      I wonder if Smith, while driving home that night, considered the irony of having his own associate dodge a question (and not being able to challenge him on it!) Smith may have a lot of leeway at Fox, but calling out one of his own people... well, let's just say he's not there yet. But, maybe soon...
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      • Author by grmce (March 25, 2010 9:35 am ET)
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        It used to be an old joke amongst journos that "You know you've hit rock bottom when you've got journalists interviewing journalists."

        Q.E.D.
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    • Author by HotWings (March 25, 2010 12:15 am ET)
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      Shepard Smith is not fair and balanced. Shepard is always attacking Republicans.
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    • Author by Russ139 (March 25, 2010 12:18 am ET)
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      It's easy to visualize Shepard Smith eating lunch each day by himself in the company dining room.
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    • Author by Jeremy Danials (March 25, 2010 12:55 am ET)
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      I want Shep to be hired by MSNBC, and work alongside Joe and Mika. It would make a morning show even MORE awesome. MUCH better than MindFox and friends.

      Defeat the Republican Propaganda Channel!!! Long Live MSNBC!!!
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    • Author by fairlyBalanced (March 25, 2010 3:51 am ET)
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      Ok, Shep's the "fair" part. Where's the balanced part? And no, Fox'n Friends is not an acceptable answer. Although .. the way she sits in the middle and the two guys sit on the end .. Ok .. they're balanced too. What the heck, it's near 3 AM. They're fair and balanced; Until Shep leaves and then they'll only be balanced. Unless she starts sitting on the end in which case, the whole Fox RUSE goes up in smoke.
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    • Author by YellerKitty (March 26, 2010 12:13 am ET)
         
      I guess that means that Michael Steele is one of those 'fringey types', with his comments about making sure they get ready to put Nancy Pelosi 'on the firing line'. This kind of nasty rhetoric is so endemic in the rabid right that they don't even comprehend that they're spouting it. Shouldn't some mental health organization be looking into the cause of this party-wide epidemic of paranoid psychosis?
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