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Beck repeats distortion to claim Obama was silencing tea party protesters

March 26, 2010 5:45 pm ET

From the March 26 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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Beck falsely claimed Obama said he doesn't want health reform protesters to "do a lot of talking"

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    • Author by soze169880 (March 26, 2010 5:49 pm ET)
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      Au contraire; I think the best possible thing for Obama is for this glazed-ham-looking SOB to keep looking into the camera in that ridiculous "Mafia Mr. Rogers" sweater, making that pathetic fake-earnest face.
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    • Author by nerzog (March 26, 2010 5:51 pm ET)
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      So, mocking is Unconstitutional now?
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    • Author by Bad News (March 26, 2010 5:51 pm ET)
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      Is this Casual Day or Dweeb Day?


      Mr. News
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    • Author by Quicksilver M.S (March 26, 2010 5:55 pm ET)
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      Glenn, it is no secret that you are not one of my favorite people!
      Glenn, I know that you would NEVER take any ADVISE from me!

      Glenn.... Lose the SWEATER...!
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 26, 2010 5:55 pm ET)
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      Bin Laden doesn't have to do anything. Beck is doing the work for him.
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      • Author by nerzog (March 26, 2010 5:57 pm ET)
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        Bin Laden would never wear that sweater.
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        • Author by soze169880 (March 26, 2010 6:11 pm ET)
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          He would if it had been a pre-2001 gift from the Bushes. Gotta be polite.
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          • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 26, 2010 6:22 pm ET)
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            he is in Iran having a tall cool one
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            • Author by Unreality (March 27, 2010 12:27 am ET)
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              No, he's in Qaetta - Iran is full of Shia.

              I think he's drinking Kingfisher, most popular beer in India.
              [http://z.about.com/d/goindia/1/0/N/9/-/-/kingfisherbeer.jpg]
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    • Author by DellDolly (March 26, 2010 6:12 pm ET)
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      Again, wanting the nonsense to stop getting the credibility it doesn't deserve, to want our nation to have a fair debate on the subject using the available evidence and factual information is not desiring that anyone in our nation be silenced!

      Again, it's about the poisoning of our national discourse that Obama and MMFA and I want to stop! If the people spewing the nonsense won't stop on their own, then others have to debunk them and mock them and stop giving them attention, credibility and legitimacy that they don't deserve!
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    • Author by rtejon (March 26, 2010 6:15 pm ET)
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      If anyone's been silenced, it's Beck's wardrobe person.
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    • Author by nerzog (March 26, 2010 6:23 pm ET)
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      It's a trap! The sweater's a trap!

      Nostradumbass knows that he will be mocked mercilessly for it, and he'll accuse us of violating his First Amendment Right to speak without being mocked.
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    • Author by MagCynic (March 26, 2010 6:26 pm ET)
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      Maybe I missed it but where did Beck claim Obama was trying to silence Tea Party protesters?
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (March 26, 2010 6:48 pm ET)
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        I think it was around the part where Beck blamed the Tea Baggers for the economic crisis.
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      • Author by jeffnlb (March 26, 2010 6:49 pm ET)
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        Oh, Lord. Here we go.
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      • Author by pete592 (March 26, 2010 6:51 pm ET)
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        BECK: "[Obama] went out on the road and he said you gotta get out of the way because, uh, I just need to mop up the mess."

        Then he plays a clip where Obama addresses the people "who created the mess." Beck wants us to believe that Obama was talking about the Teabaggers, when he clearly is talking about the politicians who made the mess he has to clean up.
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        • Author by MagCynic (March 26, 2010 8:07 pm ET)
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          All I'm asking is where Beck claimed Obama wants to "silence" Tea Party protesters. Getting out of the way doesn't include being silenced.
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          • Author by vysotsky (March 26, 2010 8:33 pm ET)
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            Fair question. I'd argue that this is implied in Beck's use of the clip from Obama that ends, "I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking." By presenting this as a comment directed at the Tea Parties, it seems fair to infer that Beck is suggesting that Obama wanted them to stop "talking".

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            • Author by MagCynic (March 26, 2010 8:53 pm ET)
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              I reason that Obama was talking about anybody that opposed health care when he said that line, including protesters, GOP officials, and anybody else that represented a threat to HCR passing. That is my opinion of what he meant. If I'm wrong I'm wrong.
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              • Author by vysotsky (March 26, 2010 9:27 pm ET)
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                Well, here's the full transcript of President Obama's remarks from which Beck's clip was taken. Here's the relevant section:

                "THE PRESIDENT: And then we start getting into the whole issue of spending. Now, let me tell you, Virginia has a history of prudent fiscal policy. That's what Tim Kaine has been about, and that's what Mark Warner has been about, and that's what Creigh Deeds is going to be about. (Applause.)
                So now you've got folks on the other side of the aisle pointing at the federal budget and somehow trying to put that at our feet. Well, let's look at the history. When I walked in, we had a $1.3 trillion deficit. That was gift-wrapped and waiting for me when I walked in the Oval Office. (Laughter.) Without my policies we'd have an even higher deficit going forward. The one exception is the recovery package that we had to do in order to get this economy moving again. (Applause.)
                So you can't go out there and charge up the credit card, go on an all kinds of things shopping spree that didn’t grow the economy, hand over the bill to us, and then say, why haven’t you paid it off yet. (Applause.) I got that bill from you. (Laughter.) So we've got some work to do. I don't mind, by the way, being responsible; I expect to be held responsible for these issues because I'm the President. (Applause.) But I don't want the folks who created the mess -- I don't want the folks who created the mess do a lot of talking. I want them just to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. (Applause.) I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking. (Applause.)"


                Now, when Obama refers to "the folks who created the mess", I have a hard time understanding how he is in any way referring to the Tea Party protesters. He's quite clearly pointing to the previous administration and Republican lawmakers. Would you agree with that? And if so, would you agree that Beck misrepresented the President's remarks as an attack on the Tea Parties?
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                • Author by MagCynic (March 27, 2010 12:06 am ET)
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                  He's quite clearly pointing to the previous administration and Republican lawmakers. Would you agree with that? And if so, would you agree that Beck misrepresented the President's remarks as an attack on the Tea Parties?
                  I think I will agree with that in this case. I disagree with Beck that Obama was referring specifically to Tea Party protesters. He misrepresented what Obama was saying.
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                  • Author by n'est-ce pas (March 27, 2010 12:36 am ET)
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                    Way to step up and take your lumps. That took character.
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                  • Author by vysotsky (March 27, 2010 1:14 am ET)
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                    I really do appreciate that, MagCynic. Thank you for taking the time to discuss this.
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                • Author by Kahleeka (March 27, 2010 11:04 pm ET)
                     
                  I agree and yet I disagree. Yes, Obama is definitely referring to the previous admin when he refers to "the folks who created the mess", but it seems that Glenn might have been listing his defense on how he thinks Obama is not the uniter he claims to be by legitimizing discourse. It seems he is giving examples to back up his statement (intentionally disparate) that whenever Obama is "met with opposition", Obama resorts to mockery rather than "honest debate."

                  It seems to me that the mocking of Tea Partiers is one example, and then the video clip of Obama saying he doesn't want to hear a lot of talkin' is ANOTHER example of how Obama disdains debate and just makes a joke out of dissent. That's just what I get out of it - 2 examples to back up Beck's claim.

                  The problem here is that this is just a short clip of this show - I cannot realy disect it without full context - What did Beck say before this and what did he say after. . . it seems he is making a bigger point that we are missing as noted by that blackboard in the background which has something about Florida on it. I cannot tell if this clip is taken out of context or not. And neither can anyone in this forum unless we have the full clip. If Beck had been ranting about the Tea Party for some time before this clip started, I might see more value in the initial claims and reasoning for the title "Beck repeats distortion to claim Obama was silencing tea party protesters."

                  I like honest, respectful debate, but I find it in so very few forums - even in this one there are 1/2 dozen or so logical discussions and then dozens of senseless silly mocking of Beck. I'm not interested in the personality, I'm interested in the meat of the subject and I find what Beck says actually, sadly to ring very true. Too many do choose to debate, and worse yet, do not have any debate skills whatsoever - thus they mock.

                  Now if we follow Saul Alinsky, then mockery is EXACTLY what you do to those who disagree (when you don't have a legitimage point of opposition!) and Obama does follow that line of thinking as many in the political realm do. I'm old school and like a good, healthy debate!
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              • Author by n'est-ce pas (March 26, 2010 9:31 pm ET)
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                Your reasoning is faulty. He said "...those that made the mess...." I don't think you can make a rational argument that he was talking about "protesters" [sic] or "...anybody else that represented a threat to HCR passing." He's pretty clearly talking about the health insurance industry and the GOP, who did make a mess out of everything they touched.
                You're really, really bad at this, ya know?
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                • Author by vysotsky (March 26, 2010 9:48 pm ET)
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                  You'd think he was talking about the health insurance industry and HCR by the way Beck framed this clip, but that's the remarkable thing: this passage from Obama's remarks were about the economy in general. Beck -- in my opinion, anyway -- completely misrepresented the context and substance of Obama's reference to "the folks who created the mess."
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                  • Author by n'est-ce pas (March 27, 2010 12:11 am ET)
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                    Ah. Well, good on you for seeking out the original speech. I vaguely remember watching it, but couldn't be troubled to do the research. Shame on me.
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              • Author by christopher howard (March 26, 2010 9:35 pm ET)
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                Mag, I agree with Vysotsky on this (and I barely ever agree with you), but most times you do at least try to argue issues without being as intentionally provocative or nasty as some recent unnamed conservative posters here. I also know you've taken some lumps here, deserved and otherwise. It takes some chutzpah to show up on a site that is mostly of a different ideological slant than your own. I'm sure we'll lock horns again but this post is a tip of the hat.
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    • Author by edgewaterprog (March 26, 2010 6:28 pm ET)
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      It might not have been the wisest thing to do politically for Obama to make fun of the teabaggers (as in the first clip) but I think Beck is purposefully conflating the teabagger movement with Obama's criticism of Fox News and the Republican status quo in the second.
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      • Author by redrage (March 26, 2010 8:31 pm ET)
           
        I don't know, ever meet a Tea Bagger who voted for Obama in '08?
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      • Author by rtejon (March 26, 2010 10:03 pm ET)
           
        I give the president credit for withholding comment for as long as he could stand it, and still finding a nice way to speak out.
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    • Author by whatIthink (March 26, 2010 6:44 pm ET)
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      [http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jch/lowres/jchn28l.jpg]
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    • Author by Jen7 (March 26, 2010 7:09 pm ET)
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      What the h is he wearing? lol He looks like Stuart Smalley.
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    • Author by Kuro (March 26, 2010 7:46 pm ET)
         
      Irony Beck look it up lol
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    • Author by cbcbcb (March 26, 2010 8:42 pm ET)
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      I wish all cable news networks would stop using radio hosts as tv hosts. They just seem to breed dishonesty.
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    • Author by OldCon (March 26, 2010 9:05 pm ET)
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      So where's the lie????
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      • Author by Conchobhar (March 26, 2010 11:38 pm ET)
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        For one, he slammed Speaker Pelosi for crying on tv. She didn't. Her eyes got glassy, and why not? She was referencing the violent rhetoric, much like today's, which led to the murders of two friends and colleagues.
        I suppose he's envious that she didn't need to use Vick's. It would never occur to this huckster that it could have been honest emotion, and not calculated crap.
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    • Author by Samurai Cowboy (March 26, 2010 10:02 pm ET)
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      The Tea Party Mantra: "I'm not aware of too many things. I know what I know, if you know what I mean".


      With apologies to Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians.
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    • Author by brodiman (March 26, 2010 11:17 pm ET)
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      What an awful, awful person. For someone to be worse than that sweater you have to be pretty loathsome.
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    • Author by Sks1 (March 27, 2010 1:26 am ET)
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      when are the likes of beck hannity oreilly limbaugh palin and the rest of the so called right wing tea party people gonna just tell the plain truth of the matter and just admit that they're mad that a Black man is in the white house and own up to thats what got them so upset and angry
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