Media Matters' Burns: "Direct connection" between Fox News' "violent rhetoric" and alleged threats on Pelosi's life
April 08, 2010 6:51 pm ET
From the April 8 edition of MSNBC's The Ed Show:
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Who can i Hate & Who can i Destroy.
Mr. News
The Bible says to love one another and all mmfa (and their sheeple) do is promote hatred among themselves and of others. How do you sheeple sleep at night? Don't answer, I think the evil-doers of this world sleep just fine because they get what they want by promoting evil. Keep promoting your brand of evil. Keep calling it good.
Fox News has shown a pattern of hate speach and your tirade rings of hypocrisy. You quote the Bible about "love" while you support the most vile, hate-filled television network in America. You point a finger at Byrd but ignore David Duke and his ongoing significance to your movement.
I'm sorry, misled Christian.... You are on the wrong side of the moral argument here. Maybe Mr. News is a bit aggressive in his rhetoric but your response was hollow and twisted. Good luck explaining your position when you meet your maker.
I never watch fox news or anything brought by fox other than sports. Sorry to dissapoint you on another of your failed counter-points.
Jesus said: they hated me before they hated you.
I guess you proved that point, thanks. BTW, I will not need to offer an explanation, my maker already knows me.
When you read all that Jesus said (you know, the Red print) he pretty much was for the poor, indigent, sick and less fortunate. He talked about walking the Christian walk, he gave puzzles for us to figure out all our lives.
Also, Christians should examine what they are watching. If Faux news is trying to foment violence and pushing lies, then Christians should be made more aware about it rather then accepting and supporting it.
Insulting mmfa and all the people that post here is something that might not get you a seat at the head of the table, if you know what I mean...???(If you don't, it is in the Bible, you should try to find it)
Yes, I should stop giving scriptural advise to you and others who think like you, lest you trample that advise under your feet and continue to tear me into pieces. Thanks for helping me see that. God bless you, my brother.
When you read all that Jesus said (you know, the Red print) he pretty much was for the poor, indigent, sick and less fortunate.
How do you think Jesus would feel about abortion-on-demand? Do 'registered republicans' support or denounce abortion? How about you registered democrats-- do you support or denounce abortion? You might not want to get into a spitting contest comparing democrats/republicans to the Word of God. Since Jesus probably doesn't approve of either party (considering the way each work their programs).
Unless you can find where Jesus said abortion is A-OK, or having a multitude of affairs while in the White House is OK, somewhere in the Bible.
An odd thing I noticed is that you continually used "Christian" in 'third person' use. Does that mean you are not one? Is that also why you want me to be the one searching the Bible for proof-- because you won't read it?
The "Sermon on the Mount" makes pretty clear that Christianity is to be the opposing force to the Republican "covetousness" agenda that dominates Fox News and other anti-humanity (Christian) media outlets.
Shame on the Christians - but its never too late.
- As Jesus frequently pointed out.
Fox is spewing this violent rhetoric NOW. And they do it unapologetically and YOU DEFEND THEM.
We don't defend Byrd's actions from way back when. Even BYRD doesn't defend Byrd's actions from way back when. And that's why we've forgiven him. He CHANGED.
You, OTOH, cling to the same old BS.
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Just like Fox.
Have you ever sung Dixie? Do you know the words? Perhaps you should check them out before you claim Robert 'sheets' Byrd is repentant.
BTW, when did I defend fox as opposed to attacking liberal theology/mentality?
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The Midnight Review
Actually... It's irony. A Fox Zombie calling other people "sheeple" on a website FILLED with the "verification" that you demand. You're too lazy to do the research that is right in front of you. All you have is rhetoric learned from Gleen Bex and Fox News. you are the one with no facts and fractured logic.
You are yet to make a point or provide evidence to the contrary. YOU are the accused here. Defend your position or wander back to fox Nation.
I asked for proof of constitutional violations and suddenly I am the accused? So much for your "irony". Perhaps you can give examples of free speech violations that darkguy won't/can't. Or ... continue to love/promote this site so you can look good to the other like-minded thinkers that you say aren't sheeple.
Didn't Jesus say: Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
She's the one who seems to be placing the blame on Fox News.
I did notice, however, that Floyd wrote,
in his response to themidnightreview, and then in his response to worrierking he writes,
without providing any of his "full references" or "actual proof". Guess it's a case of do as I say, not as I do, huh?
"Today's right-wing, Obama-hating rhetoric -- as amplified by Glenn Beck and much of the GOP Noise Machine -- is indistinguishable from the militia message." http://mediamatters.org/columns/201004060005
Swing and a miss.
by doggeddem (April 09, 2010 11:14 am ET)-- Beck is a racist, O'Rielly is a pig, and Shawn Vanity is cowardly thug. And you, Floyd like all the other right-wing sycophants are just as bigoted.
Sounds pretty hateful to me, does it sound that way to you?
As far as how the rhetoric spewing from Fox News might violate free speech, it seems to me it might be held to the same standard as one yelling "Fire!" in a theater. When you have Beck, etc. constantly calling the President of the United States racist, hating America, willfully destroying the country, and so on, that seems to me to be fostering an unhealthy perspective.
Consider some of the names members of mmfa have used to describe Pres Bush (or even by the liberal media while he was president). Did you EVER consider those names to be free speech violations?? For some reason, I would guess NO. But, you have no problem considering personal opinions of Obama to be free speech violations, huh?
You wrote,
Again, you are conflating anonymous internet posters with the most watched cable news network. How are these two things comparable? If I wrote on an MMfA board that Bush is a murderer is that the same as if Beck said the same thing on his show?
That is what we get from mmfa. I don't see REsearch going on there. It looks quite a bit like REload.
doggeddem is a commenter, not MMFA, and he doesn't seem to be professing any kind of violence against you.
Should I cite the various articles or comments made on such conservative meccas like Big Government or Fox?
If a person can be arrested for making threatening phone calls, why can't a TV show host be arrested for making threatening statements on the air? Does someone need to charge Beck with a crime before he can be arrested?
This is why Canada draws the line in its Freedom of Speech at Hate. No one is allowed to stir up hatred with their speech freedoms, especially with violent rhetoric and Beck has plenty of examples of that.
Which would be THE reason why mmfa isn't based in Canada. BTW, what "threatening statements" has Beck made on the air? Try to stay 'in context' with the proof of your claims.
BTW, no, he can be arrested at any time and held for up to 48 hours without being charged. So, be a man of your demands and have him arrested! Or, you can be another sheeple and hide in this web site and make hateful demands onto others while in the comfort of the animosity this site gives you (and everyone else).
They posted news from their own president.
BAhaha
Ironic.
where does this "site calim to debunk distortions of the truth"?
I know, you do not have anything to say.
You might want to give back all that money you have in your name. Your opinion isn't worth that much until you learn to read the first paragraph describing what this site does. The funny thing is that mmfa's mission is to promote hatred of the conservative agenda (as stated in the 2nd paragraph of the 'about us' section). Yet they come out with an article whining about hatred being promoted by conservatives.
Then, for fun, you may want to read the 'terms of use' section. That way you can count the multitude of times your fellow sheeple violate it, yet aren't punished in any way.
Takes one to know one?
There should be no olive branch for stupidity.
It's a meme Fox "news" lovers should know by heart, and if they can use it, so can we.
I absolutely LOVE how "conservative" fundamentalists start freaking out whenever there is ANY form of activism from the left, but seem to be ignorant to what is happening from their side of the arguments.
The right wants a "mainstream" Supreme Court Judge to be picked.....as if they'd actually consider returning the favor during a Republican Presidency...it's just HILARIOUS how over the past 2 years, the right has acted like they actually have the left's best interest at heart....ha....
Imagine if the LEFT had their own, personalized news channel created for the sole purpose of pushing the far left agenda and propagandizing the right....
The left doesn't HAVE a "Glenn Beck," or a "Limbaugh," because unlike the right, the largest portion of "liberals" CHOOSE to gain factual evidence before coming to conclusions, which would make lying, extremist pundits obsolete and would only serve to work against the grain of our goals.
If there were a "polar opposite Glenn Beck" that spoke out for liberals, I would LITERALLY QUIT calling myself a "liberal." If liberals EVER get to be so caught up with themselves and started lying and spewing propaganda just for political gain, I just wouldn't be able to support those people or places ever again...
And after acknowledging these facts, I am GLAD we don't have a propaganda-spewing, bigoted and racist, FOREIGN OWNED "news" channel. Liberals don't get their way by lying, we do it with facts and honest debate.
Republicans just can't see that Fox is absolutely RUINING the "Republican party." Juicy and exaggerated stories are good for Fox Media, but NOT good for the Country OR Republicans. As a matter of fact, Fox has only empowered Democrats while confusing and stupifying Republicans. So by all means, I hope they continue to ignore everyone but those who matter.
Obama is a....Socialist, Communist, Marxist, Fascist, Undocumented Immigrant, Atheist, Antichrist.......WHICH ONE IS IT FOX?! I know I left at least 100 other derogatory terms out...
Once again....thank GOD liberals are smart enough to realize that constant lying and 24/7 bashing of Republicans is not the answer to America's problems.....
Either Republicans decide to devote their entire purpose to short-term politics and class warfare, OR they get a clue and realize they can't win elections by splitting the Republican vote or by throwing all independents and "reasonable middle" voters to the curb for fear of criticism from their base.
The base will ALWAYS be there. They will never switch parties, yet Fox is on a 24/7 mission to appeal to the base ALONE....not a good strategy for winning voters....