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Burns: Fox "propaganda" machine made "a deliberate and intentional decision" to lie about health insurance jail time

April 15, 2010 7:15 pm ET

From the April 15 edition of MSNBC' The Ed Show:

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Previously:

O'Reilly's whopper: "Nobody" on Fox said failing to buy health insurance could result in jail time

Contradicting O'Reilly, Cavuto acknowledges Fox pushed health care jail-time falsehood

O'Reilly digs in, falsely claims Coburn didn't have his facts in line

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    • Author by nerzog (April 15, 2010 7:17 pm ET)
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      Well, duh. I'm just glad this well-known fact is finally making its way onto real television. Now, if we could just get it on 60 Minutes...
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      • Author by angels4light (April 16, 2010 9:54 am ET)
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        I would be happy to see it on 27,000 different Fox News programs, admitted by all of the talking heads, as the entire basis for their show - and with no attempts to prevaricate or excuse.

        It will never happen, but it would be nice to see, so that those who hold the Fox News channel to be second only to the Bible in infallability would see how they are being used.
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (April 15, 2010 7:34 pm ET)
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      The Lexington Herald-Leader hit McConnell in an article today. The article discussed McConnell's use of the Luntz talking points, and his meetings with members of the financial industry.

      I was so glad to see this issue addressed on McConnell's own turf so that the people of Kentucky can see how their senator isn't interested in representing them but in representing the interests of the financiers.
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      • Author by louee (April 16, 2010 2:58 pm ET)
           
        Being a Kentuckian, I can assure you many of my fellow Kentuckians do not care. They like McConnell because he's ultra right and because he brings home that pork they pretend to be so opposed to. But I admire the Herald-Leader for showing Howdy Doody for the lying creep he is. Thanks!
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    • Author by tobehonest (April 15, 2010 8:14 pm ET)
         
      is MMFA going to acknowledge that those quotes were taken from the part of the health care debate when jail time was in fact on the table?
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    • Author by Bulletproof Air (April 15, 2010 8:38 pm ET)
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      If I had the cash to take off work, I'd be the FIRST to want to "infiltrate" Fox. Though it may take months or years to get to where I'd need to be, I think that as little as a year there would serve to crack open some pretty amazing "behind the scenes" scheming.

      I just have a hard time believing that Fox executives would have no clue about their pundits' involvement with the teabaggers or their constant peddling of absolute lies that seem to sprout from conservative bloggers...

      Fox has been pretty extreme lately, and this leads me to believe they've also become lax in their concealment of purposeful wrongdoing....

      It seems they've abandoned basically all forms of classic journalism and have decided to report stories STRAIGHT from conservative media on the web and have even taken to reporting blogs as "news."

      I'd like to know what their guidelines or standards are for researching, editing, and producing a story or report before coming to air.
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    • Author by ProgLib (April 15, 2010 9:04 pm ET)
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      I think with Schultz attacking O'Reilly so much lately, it might rile up Bill to start another feud (like with Olbermann) because he's getting called out like this. The funny thing is Ed has seemed pretty chummy with Bill in the past... he was on his show back in 2007, I believe, when they were discussing the homeless veterans that Bill denied existed. And, now, Ed rails against him. I like it... I think Ed's a great host and really goes after people the right way on the facts, just like Olbermann and Maddow.
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      • Author by Sharpe (April 16, 2010 12:33 am ET)
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        Yea well look at Jon Stewart. He destroys fox news including having targeted bill specifically in the past and they have each been on each others show and been civil about it. Imagine beck or wannity inviting stewart or ed on their shows - ha! that'll be the day.
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    • Author by kyle b.c. (April 15, 2010 11:41 pm ET)
         
      the mainstream media need to shake off their fear of the 'liberal bias' tag and expose Fox News for what it is. i know reporters and news outlets have an unwritten law about going after the competition like that, but they need to. how can they just sit back and let Fox mislead America like you know they know they do?
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    • Author by Sharpe (April 16, 2010 12:31 am ET)
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      11 slips of the tongue? I think not! Especially something that wasn't even based in reality at any point and time.
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    • Author by HotWings (April 16, 2010 1:38 am ET)
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      If you don't buy health insurance, you will be fined. If you don't pay that fine, you will be jailed. So you can go to jail for not buying health insurance.
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      • Author by SimonRusk (April 16, 2010 1:54 am ET)
           
        Not so hot, you may want to get your facts strait before you make an even bigger fool our of yourself.
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      • Author by Logan (April 16, 2010 2:11 am ET)
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        You will be jailed for failure to pay fines. Not because you didn't buy health insurance, but because you failed to pay the fines associated with your decision. Boiling it down to that is disingenuous.
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      • Author by bintx (April 16, 2010 9:21 am ET)
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        Wrong. Most likely, you would just have your wages garnished for not paying the fine, just like most folks who don't pay their income taxes do. Very few people are thrown in jail for not paying their taxes . . . if they were, Dick Morris would be cooling his heels in jail instead of lying with his wiggly lower lip on Fox.
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    • Author by Space-Pedestrian (April 16, 2010 9:52 am ET)
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      Poor Eric Burns. He just can get over being spurned by Fox, and now has to cry "misinformation" every time they acknowledge an ugly truth about this Healthcare abomination.

      He takes issue with their bias, but tell me, was Eric ever truly objective in his journalism and commentary? Is he capable of being objective?

      MMFA either feels that the electorate at large is either too stupid to discern media bias for themselves, or is simply scared that the culture war is not going their way.
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      • Author by TexasDemocrat (April 16, 2010 5:16 pm ET)
           
        Wrong! The Eric Burns who is President of Media Matters is NOT the same Eric Burns who was a journalist for Fox. Do your research before you spout off, sumdumguy.
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    • Author by dvdburner22 (April 16, 2010 12:14 pm ET)
         
      get rid of soft rachel maddow - Ed has passion and gets me fired up....
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