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After quoting Jefferson, Beck says, "There will be rivers of blood if we don't have values and principles"

May 14, 2010 5:48 pm ET

From the May 14 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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Previously:

Beck tells O'Reilly: "Trouble is coming ... it will be the French Revolution, not the American Revolution"

Beck warns that country is "on eve of destruction" and "will be destroyed if we don't turn our ways"

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (May 14, 2010 5:55 pm ET)
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      Beck sounds like he's casting a movie about his fantasy dreamland... who wants to be George Washington?

      Glenn, all those guys are dead...different time, different circumstances.

      What a nut job...!
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      • Author by Nasty Liberal (May 15, 2010 10:20 am ET)
           
        As he and his acolytes spiral deeper into madness and delusion, I come to wonder of Glenn Beck: Where's the bottom?
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    • Author by dogbreath (May 14, 2010 5:59 pm ET)
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      Good lord, if these idiots are "training" to be the next George Washington we are in serious trouble. You don't train to be a leader like Washington, you either are or you are not. And moreover, you certainly aren't going to learn anything from Beck -- grief, what a country.
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    • Author by neon desert (May 14, 2010 6:01 pm ET)
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      We can NOT - and I can't stress this enough - NOT have rivers of blood flowing into our gulfs of oil.
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    • Author by nerzog (May 14, 2010 6:08 pm ET)
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      All those halfwits in the audience aren't worried... they know they'll be raptured before any of this stuff happens. Praise Jeeeeeeezzzzzzzuuuuuuusssssssss!
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    • Author by modest proposal (May 14, 2010 6:08 pm ET)
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      I find this hilarious, John Adams would have had Glenn Beck arrested under the sedition act of 1798 for "sedicious words tending to defame the President and Government of the United States". I think it's funny that this new wave of conservatism keeps looking back at our founding fathers as some sort of pinnacle of American history while completely ignoring the massive graft, pushes for expanding the government, enacting laws that would be clearly unconstitutional today, and trampling on the freedoms of it's populace. The 1800's was not some golden age of America that's degraded over time into corruption, far from it. Anyone claiming we need to return to our founding father's ideals really has a poor understanding of history and a even poorer concept of how it'd apply to our legal system today. It's important to distinguish between social conservatism and political conservatism... the two are being mixed up waaaay to much these days and I'm seeing a lot of social conservatism masquerading as political.
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (May 14, 2010 6:15 pm ET)
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        Glod ha spoken!
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      • Author by seahawks123 (May 14, 2010 6:25 pm ET)
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        You mean put in camps like FDR did to people?
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        • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (May 14, 2010 6:27 pm ET)
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          Hurray for seahag, inane as usual.
          ~
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        • Author by soze169880 (May 14, 2010 6:32 pm ET)
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          Yep. And just like plenty of right-wingers, Glenn Beck included, endorse doing to Arabs.
          See, here's the difference between you and us, seasponge. You think that everyone, throughout history, is either a shining, infallible demigod who's perfect in every way (the Founding Fathers, Sarah Palin)or a Satanic fascist who never did anything but ruin the country and oppress rich white Christians (Woodrow Wilson, FDR). People who are actually capable of thinking like adults understand that there's, um, kind of a middle ground there. Yes, putting Japanese-Americans in concentration camps was reprehensible, and one of the darkest spots on our country's history (although one wonders why you feel the need to APOLOGIZE FOR 'MURIKA!), and FDR doesn't get a pass for that. But he also picked a country up out of the worst economic downturn it's ever experienced, and he (began to) lead us to victory against people who really were history's greatest monsters. But no, Glenn Beck says he's the devil, so I guess he is.
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          • Author by The_Cat (May 14, 2010 7:13 pm ET)
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            People who are actually capable of thinking like adults understand that there's, um, kind of a middle ground there.


            Matter of fact, it's almost ALL middle ground...
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        • Author by Sharpe (May 14, 2010 8:20 pm ET)
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          KEEP FU-KIN THAT CHICKEN!!!
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      • Author by dogbreath (May 14, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
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        Not to mention the fact that there was not ONE collective idea that emerged from the Founding Fathers. I suppose you can say they agreed on the Declaration of the Independence and Constitution, which certainly were major, but beyond that there was very little. Implimenting and interpreting those documents caused problems then, just as it does today. They hated and disagreed with each other, perhaps even more so than we do today. Adams and Jefferson didn't talk to each other for fifteen years or so because of their differences. Beck simplifies them and dumbs them down for his audience, and they are too mind-bendingly stupid to know better.
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        • Author by soze169880 (May 14, 2010 6:37 pm ET)
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          Even the Declaration was only signed after Jefferson removed its condemnation of slavery under threat of veto from the Southern delegates.
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    • Author by David2012 (May 14, 2010 6:26 pm ET)
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      The pasty, fat, soft, rich little twerp better pray that nothing like his fevered fantasies ever does play out. He'd last a day, tops.
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    • Author by seahawks123 (May 14, 2010 6:27 pm ET)
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      Besides he's talking about values and principles that's not anything you libs know about.
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      • Author by soze169880 (May 14, 2010 6:32 pm ET)
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        You're right, I don't have the values and principles required to something really morally upstanding like bumping rails and then making fun of women for miscarrying.
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      • Author by dogbreath (May 14, 2010 6:37 pm ET)
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        Aaaahhh. . . you caught us again, sealegs. We have no ethics, no values and no principles. We are like BP and Wall Street all rolled into one.
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      • Author by bintx (May 14, 2010 9:37 pm ET)
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        Beck has no values or principles. Anyone who would appear on television and radio and LIE day in and day out just to make a buck off of STUPID people like you who believe that to be a conservative is to HATE anyone he and people like him tell you to hate. You have no idea what being a conservative is, but you know, because Beck and Rush told you, that anyone who disagrees with you in any way whatsoever is a "lib," and is BAAADDDD! Guess what, they're laughing their a**es off at people like you. They aren't conservatives, it's their game. If you believe their bull, you aren't a conservative, either. They are making BUNDLES of money off of uninformed, gullible people like you. How does it feel to be used?

        You are a very sad person.
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    • Author by rikntx (May 14, 2010 6:31 pm ET)
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      Okay values and principals, I can get behind that...now tell me which corporations and which neocons or teabaggers have those...I'll wait.

      We don't need militants or revolutionaries? Weren't these guys you're talking about (the founding fathers) revolutionaries? And what about those guys you're always quoting and comparing yourself to, Gandhi and Dr. King? Weren't they considered militants in their day?
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      • Author by soze169880 (May 14, 2010 6:40 pm ET)
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        I find Beck's "exposes" of people he doesn't approve of reminiscent of the fabrications about King that J. Edgar Hoover used to leak to right-wing media outlets.
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    • Author by Don Quixote (May 14, 2010 6:38 pm ET)
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      Now I know who Beck reminds me of: Dorothy from Wizard of Oz.

      Lions, and tigers, and bears! Oh, my!

      [http://hockeymomablog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/wizardofoz460.jpg]
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      • Author by soze169880 (May 14, 2010 6:40 pm ET)
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        Impossible! Judy Garland had a drug problem!
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      • Author by Leftym0m79 (May 14, 2010 8:40 pm ET)
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        More like her 3 companions all rolled up into one pasty dough-ball.
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        • Author by vgranucci2016 (May 14, 2010 9:00 pm ET)
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          However, her companions wanted "a brain, a heart, and courage", even if they didn't have them. Mr. Beck has no interest in acquiring any of those.
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    • Author by mmfa.fan (May 14, 2010 6:53 pm ET)
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      I don't what's scarier - Beck, or his followers. The man is a raving lunatic, but who are the idiots that listen to him? Is the education system really that broken?
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      • Author by mjh (May 14, 2010 9:10 pm ET)
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        "I don't what's scarier - Beck, or his followers. The man is a raving lunatic, but who are the idiots that listen to him?"



        See Sehags above for your answer . . .


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      • Author by bintx (May 14, 2010 9:39 pm ET)
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        The seapuppet is a good place to start. He claims to be an educated person . . . claims to be an Orthopedist who "fixes bones." Scary, huh?
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      • Author by papa bear3 (May 14, 2010 9:46 pm ET)
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        Check out the recent TED seminar on leaders of movements.(U of Denver)

        It isn't the leader in himself, but actually the "first follower" then the "second follower," then after this hierarchy is assembled, and the masses flock, but are held from contact with the leader by the second follower under the direction of the first follower. They just want to be part of a group rather than be on the outside, they have no real beliefs
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        • Author by bintx (May 14, 2010 10:08 pm ET)
             
          Kind of like the gang mentality. Alone, they are nothing, but when they gather, they feed off of the attention of the others. It's a very, very dangerous situation.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (May 14, 2010 6:55 pm ET)
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      I'd like to see this grandiose idiot get a 4 year degreee before teaching nme anything.
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      • Author by soze169880 (May 14, 2010 7:02 pm ET)
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        He doesn't need to!!!! He's self-edumacated! Of course, he defines "self-educated" as "hanging out in the library reading books", most of which were probably written by formally educated people. Glenn Beck... intellectual welfare cheat.
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      • Author by Sharpe (May 14, 2010 8:19 pm ET)
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        Im skeptical beck actually graduated high school - where is his transcripts? I demand to see becks transcripts.
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        • Author by phredicles (May 14, 2010 8:53 pm ET)
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          Hey yeah - why won't Bleck release his academic records? What's he hiding? If his followers want to know the president's grades at Harvard, I think we have a right to know Bleck's grades in the Special class at Abandon All Hope High or wherever the h&ll he went.
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        • Author by bintx (May 14, 2010 9:44 pm ET)
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          The original biography I read about him said that it was not clear that he had graduated. When I went back and read it again, it said that he had graduated "in the early 80s." So, how many people do you know who say they graduated in the "early 80s"? Everybody knows the year they graduate from high school.

          His education in history comes from reading the bizarro writings of Cleon Skousen and David Barton, the man who, if he can't find a founder's quote to fight his need just makes one up. Beck has NO idea what he's talking about, but he says his bullsh*t with such authority that the numbnuts who follow him BELIEVE him. It's crazy.
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    • Author by What Happened to Gannon (May 14, 2010 7:07 pm ET)
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      I thought we was just a "rodeo clown". How can he talk about values? WTF!
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    • Author by Dronation (May 14, 2010 7:31 pm ET)
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      "A first attempt to recover the right of self-government may fail, so may a 2d. a 3d. &c. but as a younger, and more instructed race comes on, the sentiment become more and more intuitive, and a 4th. a 5th. or some subsequent one of the ever renewed attempts will ultimately succeed. in France the 1st. effort was defeated by Robespierre, the 2d by Bonaparte, the 3d by Louis XVIII and his holy allies; another is yet to come, and all Europe, Russia excepted, has caught the spirit; and all will attain representative government, more or less perfect. this is now well understood to be a necessary check on kings, whom they will probably think it more prudent to chain and tame, than to exterminate. to attain all this however rivers of blood must yet flow, & years of desolation pass over, yet the object is worth rivers of blood, and years of desolation. for what inheritance, so valuable, can man leave to his posterity? the spirit of the Spaniard and his deadly and eternal hatred to a Frenchman, gives me much confidence that he will never submit, but finally defeat this atrocious violation of the laws of god and man under which he is suffering; and the wisdom and firmness of the Cortes afford reasonable hope that that nation will settle down in a temperate representative government, with an Executive properly subordinated to that." - Thomas Jefferson to John Adams - Monticello Sep. 4, 23.
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      • Author by Nasty Liberal (May 15, 2010 10:33 am ET)
           
        Well, there is your evidence Glenn Beck has reading comprehension issues.
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    • Author by Sharpe (May 14, 2010 8:16 pm ET)
         
      Reagan was also president when the USSR was still a communist country which has changed since - too bad conservative morons like beck never realized it.

      Jefferson lived during the revolutionary war. wE MAY have needed to spill blood to become a real country at that point. Things have changed in the two centuries since - again, too bad conservatives like beck never realized this.
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    • Author by Sharpe (May 14, 2010 8:18 pm ET)
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      There is no NEXT george washington you dumb@$$.
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    • Author by Johaely (May 14, 2010 8:39 pm ET)
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      Jesus christ, he's getting crazier by the day.
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    • Author by williamsn517 (May 14, 2010 8:41 pm ET)
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      I would like glenn beck and the rest of the rightwingers to know that I really really don't give a s**t about the founding fathers. And if I have to hear about the founding fathers one more time I'm gonna throw a brick through my tv.
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      • Author by Dronation (May 14, 2010 8:56 pm ET)
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        Of course not. You're WAY smarter than all of them. I'll bet you're a dynamo wrecking machine of thought.
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      • Author by sodium (May 14, 2010 11:16 pm ET)
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        Totally agree williams517.
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        • Author by Bongo Fury (May 14, 2010 11:43 pm ET)
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          No ship.I have no way of living over 200 years ago.Today is plenty.
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      • Author by Dronation (May 14, 2010 11:24 pm ET)
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        You sound WAY smarter than all those people. Like a dynamo wrecking ball of deep thought. The country needs more people like yourself.
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    • Author by Chief (May 14, 2010 10:08 pm ET)
         
      I am not into politics at all and am not sure the difference between Right/Left, Conservative and Liberal, and i hear you complain alot about what people are saying on the right. How do you think the country should be?
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    • Author by Ro (May 14, 2010 10:59 pm ET)
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      [http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f236/jamminjer25/27875_126447154035242_1000000987405.jpg]
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