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Brzezinski: Giuliani "vomit[ed] out complete, baseless lies" about Obama's oil spill response

June 21, 2010 9:29 am ET

From the June 21 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

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Previously:

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    • Author by nerzog (June 21, 2010 9:35 am ET)
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      This was an odd exchange. Mika was right, but Joe used a semantic loophole to beat her over the head.

      Did Joe forget to put on his "Voice of Reason" underwear this morning?
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (June 21, 2010 9:39 am ET)
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      Good start, Mika...now how about denouncing your neighbor/friend, Liz Cheney about the lies she's been telling?
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    • Author by dkylep (June 21, 2010 9:42 am ET)
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      Why is she saying 'sorry' before she says that Guiliani lied? She should be insulted, as should be anybody, at somebody who has the nerve to stand in front of other human beings and blatantly lie to curry political points.

      Don't be sorry you dope, rip a strip off of him for daring to lie. Then list precisely what lies he told, then the truths and how you found the truths. Then ask Guiliani a very pointed question: "If you don't have access to information that enables you to tell the truth about something Mr. Former Mayor, can you keep your mouth shut until you do have those facts?" Then she should ask, "How about an apology and an admission that you lied?"

      Of course, she'd never get either, but the fact that she went to trouble to details the deceit and then pushes it by refusing to just let it slide, like so many 'journalists' do, would truly help 'right the ship'. But then, that would require actual journalistic integrity and talent, something which none of these people have.
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      • Author by nerzog (June 21, 2010 9:49 am ET)
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        I tend to agree. There's not much journalism going on any more, least of all on Cable TV.

        It's mostly show business, now.
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    • Author by goesto11 (June 21, 2010 9:47 am ET)
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      I'm more than a little sick of Mika giving lectures about journalistic integrity a day or two after she's guilty of the infractions she rails against.

      When Giuliani was spouting his nonsense, I was screaming at my TV (as I do at some point every time I watch Morning Joe). Why didn't Mika have the same reaction at the time?

      She wasn't silent because she was "stunned." She was silent because she's a coward.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (June 21, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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      For the record, Giuliani vomited 9/11 times. ;>)
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      • Author by txthinker (June 21, 2010 9:55 am ET)
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        For the record, Giuliani vomited 9/11 times. ;>)
        Then he changed into his dress and vomited 9/11 times more. :-)

        [http://www.quizlaw.com/blog/images/giuliani-drag.jpg]
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    • Author by MickD (June 21, 2010 10:19 am ET)
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      And coming up on Morning Joe, another forum for Rudy Guiliani if he wants one.
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    • Author by rtejon (June 21, 2010 10:30 am ET)
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      Fooling Mika is not hard. Rudy really lamed out this time.
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    • Author by markbfoot199 (June 21, 2010 10:44 am ET)
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      Really, since she is writing for the WH, why would she agree.

      Give her high marks for candor: on today's show, Mika Brzezinski admitted that she has been "working with the White House" on oil spill talking points. But that still leaves the issue of the journalistic propriety of someone in Brzezinski's position serving as such a blatant shill for the president. H/t tip NB reader Ray R.

      Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/06/21/mika-admits-im-working-white-house-oil-spill-talking-points#ixzz0rUzlXFk4
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (June 21, 2010 10:50 am ET)
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        The article was a bit short on proof. As in none.
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      • Author by bintx (June 21, 2010 1:59 pm ET)
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        Oh, PUHLEEZE! I listened to the entire exchange. She was doing research for HERSELF over the weekend because she wanted to know if what Guiliani was saying last week was true, WHICH IT WAS NOT. She wasn't saying she was working with the White House.

        Yeah, you're such a "conservative." You're just a groupie. Have fun being stupid, I've got to go back to jury duty.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (June 22, 2010 12:57 am ET)
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        Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/06/21/mika-admits-im-working-white-house-oil-spill-talking-points#ixzz0rUzlXFk4

        The title in your link clearly says that Mika herself said, "I'm working (THE) WH oil spill talking points." One must know that although the THE isn't there originally, without it, the comment doesn't make sense. Sometimes those who fail to do this will misinterpret the meaning of the comment.

        She was doing her research to either confirm or reject what the WH has been saying about the spill as opposed to what Guiliani said.

        It does not say that she was working at, or for, the WH.

        It has to be interpreted the way that it is supposed to be interpreted in order to understand its' true meaning.

        Always question the writer's motive(s) in the way he/she draws attention to his/her material. Writers use subtle techniques to promote their POV and to convince their readers to endorse that POV and replicate it. That's the trap. Just because it sounds reasonable and logical doesn't mean it is. One should always question and verify before accepting what anyone says because that is the only thing that always leads to accurate answers.
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