Crowley says removal of McChrystal shows Obama is "thin-skinned," "reacting out of anger"
June 23, 2010 1:48 pm ET
From the June 23 edition of Fox News' America Live:
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Of course, it didn't require any real psychic powers; the FOXbots are so predictable.
I'm bracing myself for the all too predictable, "They handled McChrystal the Chicago way," comments still to come.
The usual comparisons are coming soon.
Oops---sorry, that was the alternate headline.
Hmm. That makes me think maybe he should have kept McChrystal. Kristol has not been right about anything in my lifetime. Obama had every right and justification to get rid of the man. Especially since this was not the first time he made a fool of himself with the media. Having said that, I would have kept him I believe.
If you're looking for hypocrisy, birdman, reread some of your old posts.
Of course Seahags was in the military -- he was a military bone doctor, don't ya know?
Here's a picture of him prepping for surgery:
Keep it stupid, squawks. You're always good for a laugh or two.
Obama was not anointed he was elected.
Do you not remember the MoveOn ad, "....General Betrayus?" that none of the dems would denounce?
Now, please cite instances where Obama "ridiculed and demonized" Petraeus. If he didn't approve of him, he would not have kept him on as the Commander of United States Central Command when he became president. He had no obligation to do so and could have relieved him of his command at any time. Nice try, but as usual, faux conservative talking points that you parrot in order to make yourself believe you are a conservative.
I'll say again, there was no need to denounce Moveon.org, even though some did. Did the Republicans condemn the Swift Boaters for their specious attack on Kerry? See, this could go on and on and on.
You still have not stated facts regarding Obama demonizing and ridiculing Petraeus.
Steve Doocy = Trent Lott. You heard it first courtesy of doughpro.
WASHINGTON — The Senate on Thursday overwhelmingly passed a measure condemning MoveOn.org for a newspaper ad it ran last week attacking Gen. David Petraeus. The move came as President Bush accused Democrats of cowering to the liberal political action group.
The measure passed in a 72-25 vote, with none of the Democratic presidential candidates supporting it. Sponsored by Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn, never one to shy away from forcing Democrats to go on record on politically sticky issues, the amendment to the defense authorization bill did win the backing of 23 Democrats.
Got any more B.S. talking points?
I remember the ad asked if Petraeus would make factual statements concerning the war in Iraq -- a question that was never really answered, BTW.
I also remember that then-CNO ADM Mike Mullen referred to Petraeus as "an ass-kissing little sh!t" -- yet, not only was there no condemnation of Mullen by the wingers, Mullen got bumped UP to CJCS . . .
Second, please post instances where the President "ridiculed and demonized" General Petraeus. I'm not sure if you knew this, but Obama could have replaced Petraeus as Commander of United States Central Command when he took office. He did not. If he "ridiculed and demonized him," why on earth would he keep him on in the job that you are alleging that he "ridiculed and demonized" him for being appointed to serve?
Just more of your uninformed stupidity, squawks.
A military oath is an oath to the Constitution, not to the POTUS.
Article II, Section 2.
While they do not take an oath to the Commander in Chief, they DO follow the chain of command. The Commander in Chief is civilian LEADER of the Military, pursuant to the Constitution. As such, members of the military are to follow his orders, unless they are unlawful, without question. As one of my AF friends said upon his return from a tour in Iraq, "I am bound by my oath to protect and defend the Constitution and I am bound by military procedure to obey the Commander in Chief, but I do NOT have to respect nor agree with George W. Bush."
As a retired social studies teacher who was very careful to never tell my students anything that was incorrect, I must say that it gets on my last nerve to have some posters coming here who do not know what they are talking about. It wouldn't be so bad if it only happened occasionally, but it happens way too often. It makes me wonder why there are so many people in this country who rely on others to think for them. I always urged my students to think for themselves. When one thinks for one's self and does the necessary research, it is almost impossible for him/her to be sold a bill of rotten goods. I can expect young people to suffer from faulty thinking from time to time, but I don't expect it from adults. I also don't expect adults to allow themselves to be brainwashed, but that is what has happened to quite a few in this country, and it sad to see. It makes my heart ache for their children whom they seek to indoctrinate with the same flawed thinking.
The U.S. National Guard oath of office for enlisted members.
"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Article 88, UCMJ
“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."
Article II, Section 2.
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Doughboy,
Man -- you wingnuts really oughta READ the Constitution you keep holding up as a perfect document sometime . . .
You really believe that no Democrats signed on to condemn the MoveOn ad and that soldier do not swear to follow the orders of the president? You really believe this to be true?
We won't hold our collective breaths.
Dating back to when he was named the President of the Harvard Law Review a good portion of Obama's career has been spent in leadership positions. As a professor, as an attorney, as a State Senator, as a U.S. Senator, and yes, certainly as a community organizer.
And now, of course, after an undeniably remarkable campaign that reached out to people across the spectrum, he's the President of the United States, and thus, the Commander and Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
Just with that on his resume alone you've going to find very few people who can boast of a better resume.
A Medal of Honor honoree in Vietnam, a multimillionaire, an orthopedic surgeon, etc. . .
What, you don't believe people are proud of the USA team advancing in the World Cup?
Might want to talk to these people about that . . .
I think, if CA-10 and NY-23 last year, and PA-12 this year, are any indication, seeing is already believing . . .
Add to the above the Dow finished up nearly five points today . . . now, if President Obama's approval ratings jump back above 50 percent, some teabaggers in hate media may have to placed on suicide watch . . .
For Pay Per View?
/snark
Here's a start.
I'm not saying that everyone who disagrees this president gets their news from those sources. I disagree with several things that this president has failed to do and I don't get my news from those sources.
I perceive your occupation, whatever it is, is not in analysis.
As I said, I disagree with several aspects of this Presidency and was not a supporter of Mr. Obama. My vote for him was a protest vote against McCain's cynical and very dangerous choice of running mate. Having said that, I will vehemently disagree with the faux conservative talking points which are posted here by folks like squawks, doughpro and even you. You say you don't get them from Fox/hate talk radio . . . fine with me. They're still the same false talking points.
Is it safe to say that if one didn't know better, they would think that one person has 37 different user names in here?
Also, why don't you go in some old MMFA files and read the sentiments towards the military and Petraeus for yourself? They were here the last time I checked.
Or, it COULD be a case of the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF removing a subordinate for insubordination, as he has legal authority to do.
Monica honey, if you or any of the other Foxbot chickenhawks had spent any time in uniform, you'd know this . . .
Or Johnson replacing Westmoreland . . .
Or former SecDef Darth Cheney firing Dugan after 79 days . . .
"If General McClellan does not want to use the army, I would like to borrow it for a time."
-A. Lincoln
McClellan
MacArthur
McChrystal
When I was in the US Navy, we had a saying: "sh!t rolls downhill."
Believe me, if those officers were junior in rank to McChrystal, they will be dealt with -- you may not hear about it publicly, but they will be dealt with . . .
Fox is not a news organization, but the propaganda arm of the crony capitalist, corporate wing of the Republican party. They'll try, probably successfully, to coopt and exploit the Tea Party populists.
What I don't get is Fox's sudden disdain for Obama "reacting angrily."
Hell -- it wasn't that long ago that Kneel Craputo advised John McCain to do just that, in his "Free Political Tips to John McCain." To wit:
Tip three: Don't hide your temper. Show it. Apparently, when you explode, it's a beaut. I think it shows your passion. And people respect passion. And who cares if they think it's nutty. I'll tell you what, dictators ain't exactly the Rock of Gibraltar. Nuts respect tempers. Winston Churchill had a huge temper, and it didn't hurt him any!
Funny how its OK for McCain to show his temper during a campaign, but not for Obama to show his while carrying out the duties of his office. IOKIYAR/IOKIYAW