Zakaria explains the importance of spending in a recession
July 04, 2010 1:55 pm ET
From the July 4 edition of CNN's Fareed Zakaria GPS:
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But ... Does our government have the courage to trim off the upcoming bubble?
(credit: Pat Bagley)
Democrats seem to be afraid to attack the deficit fetishists; they seem to think they will be unable persuade that deficits are good during recessions. And it doesn't make sense; if people are too stupid to understand something this simple, there is no hope, so we might as well try.
This business of simply being transcriptionists is ludicrous and really needs to stop!
Fluff pieces are regurgitated day after day on the Crap News Network, but you'll never hear a single salient point from Fareed's show.
Maybe they burn the tapes every Sunday afternoon.
At the least, a coherent one.
My comment was an attempted attack on CNN, not Fareed.
Now that Christiane Amanpour has left, Fareed's show is the only thing worth watching.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Berie Shaw won't admit to ever working for CNN.
You really do need to read your posts before hitting the save button though.
Personally, I want Aaron Brown back.
"...Fareed's show is the only thing worth watching..."
Come back when you decide what your opinion is- clearly you are a confused little boy right now.
What? Did I accuse the screeder of being a troll? Moron perhaps, but just read his response to his baited frothing. Afterwards, count your fingers...maybe your arm, as well?
Alcohol maybe?
Fareed who?
Fluff pieces are regurgitated day after day on the Crap News Network, but you'll never hear a single salient point from Fareed's show.
..... be translated into support for Fareed and his show's content?
No one but you has interpreted that comment as anything but a slam on Fareed. That's why I believe you said things you didn't mean to say.
I believe you DID intend to praise Fareed. I don't believe that your post, as constructed, did that in any way, shape or form.
If I'd said on Fareed's show I'd agree with your comment (and others' above), but I said from Fareed's show.
And as a parting shot: More and more, CNN seems to be aiming for the Beckian Borg among us and not for people who gather information from more than one source.
I agree.
Without that point, there's no clear way to understand that you were saying that no salient point from Fareed's show is replayed on CNN.
As I said above,
I believe you DID intend to praise Fareed. I don't believe that your post, as constructed, did that in any way, shape or form.
I still don't. I get your point now that you've explained it, but I don't think that the problem is our misreading of the word "from". And I think your derogatory-sounding "Fareed who?" didn't help matters.
And I HAVE seen Fareed pieces replayed by CNN quite a number of times. I don't usually watch his show live on Sundays, but I've seen them on other CNN and Headline News shows.
Meanwhile, the evidence of the Bush era's support for deficits didn't disappear.
William Beach of Center for Data Analysis Director Heritage Foundation was on PBS NewsHour on Friday night crying crocodile tears about the defict in the guise of opposing increase in unemployment benefits. "... we have created a bit of a problem by extending unemployment beyond that 26 weeks."
JEFFREY BROWN: You mean the benefits themselves act as a disincentive for people?
WILLIAM BEACH: After a point, they do. And that is what the overwhelming body of academic evidence actually shows. (note that Beach often asserts academic data, but the sources are specious because they're paid to produce the results. You'd never want to take a drug that these guys developed.)
And it can in fact cut the consumption expenditures of households, because a dollar on unemployment, about 55 cents of that is actually spent by the household.
(WTF? Show me someone who is taking home 40% of their prior take home pay which is typical unemployment where I live, and then saving 45% of that. Is this guy in charge of data or B.S.?)
So if you take it too long beyond its emergency and safety net purposes, you can create just kind of the opposite result that you were hoping to.
Here's National Review Article from 3/19/2003 (that date sound familiar?)
So was Heritage right in 2003 or are they right today? Has Heritage ever been right is the operative question.
We still have a person getting unemployment and a person newly re-employed.
Unemployment insurance benefits DO make some people complacent. So what?
I really don't understand how the members of the Senate went home last week to their gated communities, condominiums, vacation homes, maids, drivers, gardeners, etc, with a calm mind knowing that millions of people would have no money coming into their homes to buy food or pay some of their bills. Paul Krugman has an article in the NYT today that addresses the kind of people that are in Congress who can do this to others.
Not necessarily the most productive use of money.
I've recently been at several medical conferences here in Silicon Valley where the lack of capital is leaving many great ideas/technologies/products sitting on the shelf. There were over 500 entrepreneurs at one event and tax cuts wouldn't help us. I'm actually of the counter-intuitive view that higher taxes drive venture investment because investors want higher returns. (Yes the VC industry netted zero for the 2000-2009 decade due to a lot of really stupid me-too practices.)
I know that if I had a tax cut it wouldn't make a difference in the economy. I'm paying 15-25% on the cards so I pay down all credit before taking on new debt, even if it would add jobs. I'd use it to pay down my credit card bills (used to fund our startup) before I'd be able to fix my roof, replace the 23 year old vacuum, 25 year old washer, 60 year old furnace, 100 year old windows, etc. even though there are great tax breaks for those. Sadly, cash is king is a rational decision.
If my credit cards went back to the 6-9% I was paying 2-3 years ago I might change my cash strategy.
As to the stimulus money - there is a large minority of congress (I won't name names) who didn't want to get the money out doing something, they wanted to tie it to tax cuts.
I don't know how you feel, but I sense that most Americans feel like the stimulus was more of a bailout than a stimulus. I think there is a lot of weariness about these policies, and I guess I would just like to see something different or out of the box attempted in this unique times.