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Doocy falsely claims 47 percent are "not paying taxes," asks should they "be allowed to vote?"

July 28, 2010 7:03 am ET

From the July 28 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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Quick Fact: Savage falsely claims that "47 percent of families pay no taxes"

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    • Author by David2012 (July 28, 2010 7:06 am ET)
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      Good luck with that, Deuce.

      Why don't you ask whether they should be allowed to live?
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (July 28, 2010 7:06 am ET)
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      A better question is, "Should Doocy be allowed to vote"?
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      • Author by christopher howard (July 28, 2010 7:11 am ET)
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        Well he is 47% dumber than the average Fox host.
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        • Author by rtwmd1230 (July 28, 2010 10:09 am ET)
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          What Doocy really wants to say is "Should non-whites by allowed to vote?". I'll think we'll hear it pretty soon.
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          • Author by dogbreath (July 28, 2010 10:16 am ET)
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            I think it is definitely headed in that direction. Here in Colorado, the wackiness continues unabated as Tom Tancreepo has entered the governors race. He is running on the American Constitution Party. One of the planks of their platform is to repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965. How long before this enters the Republican mantra? Given Rand Paul's recent outburst, I would say it will be a serious consideration by the Republicans in a year from now.

            The ACP also wants to make it a-okay to use violence against women seeking an abortion. Wow! What a bunch of winners we have in this country.
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            • Author by indigo1968 (July 28, 2010 10:28 am ET)
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              All Tancredo's candidacy is going to do is siphon off votes from his GOP challenger, and increase the odds that a Democrat will win the state's governorship.
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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (July 28, 2010 7:18 am ET)
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      How about corporations that work the law so that they can escape paying taxes? Should US companies that pretend to be based in the Cayman Islands or that hire lobbyists to carve themselves exemptions in the US tax code be allowed to buy advertising on Fox "News" or contribute to political campaigns?

      Also, Republicans like the people at Fox "News" are supposed to be AGAINST paying taxes. It's an article of faith for them that eliminating taxes increased revenues. In theory, if 47 percent of Americans are not paying taxes, Republicans should be applauding them. Of course, in the Wingnuttia fiction, there's not paying taxes (rich, white inheritors and rich, white businessmen -- YAY!) and not paying taxes (lazy, poor African Americans and Hispanics -- BOO!)

      Just last week Republicans tried to permanently eliminate the inheritance tax, which they all the "Death Tax", and which I call the "Paris Hilton Tax".

      In Doocy's ideal America, will rich dilettantes who make their money the old fashioned way (waiting for daddy to die) and avoid paying taxes thanks to Republican policies be denied THEIR right to vote? Somehow I think that's not what he had in mind.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 28, 2010 10:32 am ET)
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        This is such a fundamental part of the right wing mythology, and I'm constantly amazed that they're able to pull it off.

        They've somehow convinced masses of average and below average Americans that they're being punished with excessive taxes, while lying out of the other side of their mouth that half of the country isn't paying any taxes,

        That they're able to get the rubes simultaneously outraged that they're overtaxed, and outraged that they're undertaxed, is a testament to the dumbing-down of America that Fox has been working so hard at for years.
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        • Author by historygeek001 (July 28, 2010 11:56 am ET)
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          I suspect that the GOP agrees with Leona Helmsley -- Only the little people pay taxes.
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    • Author by GBU-15 (July 28, 2010 7:35 am ET)
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      Oh you mean the way it was practiced in medieval Europe? I guess if you pay less taxes you should have less freedom as well? The wealthier you are means you are more of an American? These are the guys the poor rubes have on their side. Go ahead. Elect more Republicans! They can not wait to throw your poor @ss under the bus!
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    • Author by New Frontier (July 28, 2010 8:00 am ET)
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      99.9 percent of the Fox on-air hosts are rabid right-wingers. Should they be doing news?
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      • Author by aj6525 (July 28, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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        You call that a news network? I thought it was the gossip/propaganda channel.
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    • Author by peace4all (July 28, 2010 8:08 am ET)
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      man, for people that profess to have a profound love of the constitution these dopes sure don't have an issue with trying to violate it when it suits their twisted world view. the two main issues with this are, one, voting is right. that's the way we are set up as a country. and two, yeah, great idea. let only the rich vote. that will really move this country forward. then we can be just like all other third world countries where the privileged few live well while the masses live in squalor.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (July 28, 2010 8:11 am ET)
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      No, Steve...not only should that 47% not be allowed to vote,
      they should be denied citizenship and be treated like illegal immigrants in Arizona
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    • Author by rikntx (July 28, 2010 8:29 am ET)
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      Steve Doocey is dumber than 99% of US citizens. Should he be allowed to breathe?
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    • Author by wesley (July 28, 2010 8:30 am ET)
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      Should they be allowed to vote? Doocy proves once again his simple minded intellect...or a thinly veiled effort at promoting a constitutional amendment.

      -- Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax. -- 24th Amendment to the constitution

      And speaking of not paying taxes...I wonder if mmfa will take up the cause to defend John Kerry's utter hypocrisy in beating out his home state of $500,000 in taxes?
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 28, 2010 8:40 am ET)
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      Doucy spillig the beans of a republican party media meeting,about what percentage of registered voters need to be stopped for them to win
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    • Author by epkklk851 (July 28, 2010 8:56 am ET)
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      Oh Dookie, they outlawed literacy and poll taxes as unconstitutional. I thought you Faux folks were all about the Constitution? I guess you're only for certain parts, then. Actually, everyone pays taxes, they just aren't paying income taxes. But they pay sales taxes, property taxes, and payroll taxes and they probably pay out a higher percentage of their income in taxes than you do, but hey, they don't try to take the vote away from you.
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      • Author by roundhouse (July 28, 2010 11:22 am ET)
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        I like how they gloss over the misfortune that there is a large percentage of Americans who are held in such poverty that their income tax is waived.

        Anyway, their votes, all of our votes, are in jeopardy because we have allowed a private company to own the voting machines.
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      • Author by shaggles (July 28, 2010 11:22 am ET)
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        I disagree with the notion that a large % of the population is not paying income taxes. Everyone who works pays income tax. Even if 47% get a full refund the govt still receives a benefit by having the use of those funds interest free for a number of months.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (July 28, 2010 11:34 am ET)
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          You've raised a valid point. My daughter was owed a refund, and was really, really late in filing her taxes, so they had that money even longer than could be expected.

          And yes, those computerized machines bothered me, too. I cast my ballot on a peice of paper back in 2008 because of the long lines. I'm still not sure if it counted. Virginia is replacing the computerized machines after just a few years in operation. Paper ballots are bad, but better than something that can't be seen or touched like electronic ephemera
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          • Author by John Paradox (July 28, 2010 2:04 pm ET)
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            One of the books I'm reading is Schneier On Security, by Bruce Schneier, Security Expert. One chapter (actually, it's made up of various article he'd written, put together under various subjects) is on Electronic Voting. He's especially known for Computer (& Internet) Security, so he's familiar with the technology of the machines, and he pushes for paper ballots, which can be used in a recount. There are also some videos on YouTube that demonstrate how touch screen machines can be easily hacked.
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    • Author by So Fain (July 28, 2010 8:57 am ET)
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      This totally makes sense because the right to vote and our income tax system were both guaranteed in the Constitution!

      Wait... Maybe one of those things wasn't set up by the Constitution... But who cares? The President is clearly black, people!
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    • Author by rikntx (July 28, 2010 9:06 am ET)
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      Is the assumption that all 47% would vote Democratic?
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      • Author by bodhi057 (July 28, 2010 9:40 am ET)
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        Yeah, I think this would backfire as it would also eliminate a lot of Republican voters.
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        • Author by christopher howard (July 28, 2010 9:54 am ET)
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          Yeah, but those Republican ex-voters would still applaud Doocy for eliminating their right to vote.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 28, 2010 9:58 am ET)
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          The great thing about Fox Fans is that they can be sitting in that lower half of America, income-wise, watching the knuckleheads on Fox scolding that bottom half for not paying taxes, and they can be tricked into being angry at somebody else who they imagine isn't paying taxes.

          Fox knows when to use a few good video clips of Mexicans crossing the border, or inner city black people, to show their faithful what that fictional freeloading half of the country looks like.
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          • Author by nerzog (July 28, 2010 10:03 am ET)
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            That is one of the most puzzling aspects of the FOXbot phenomenon, as well as the sycophants who listen to Blimpy Limbaugh.

            The vast majority of these people will never... NEVER make anything close to $250,000 a year, yet they hyperventilate over the prospect of rich people paying the same rate they were paying in the 90s.

            It's absolutely amazing. It would make a fascinating study for some psychologist. I think the author of What's the Matter with Kansas touched on it, but it's been a while since I read it.
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            • Author by alienofwar (July 28, 2010 10:28 am ET)
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              Really good book, I'm going to order it from the library again because it's worth reading several times.
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            • Author by Conchobhar (July 28, 2010 11:51 am ET)
                 
              I think the author of What's the Matter with Kansas touched on it, but it's been a while since I read it.
              That would be Thomas Franks, who also wrote the invaluable, THE WRECKING CREW; How Conservatives Rule.
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    • Author by Ninure (July 28, 2010 9:13 am ET)
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      Should people at FOX and/or who believe what they see on FOC, be allowed to vote?Your text to link here...
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    • Author by The_Cat (July 28, 2010 9:23 am ET)
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      'Poll taxes' have been struck down as un-Constitutional, Doocy. Try learning from history instead of re-writing it, whaddya say?

      Hey, I've got an idea! How about we only let land-owning Protestant white hetero millionaire males vote? How about that? Oh, wait! We practically have that now, thanks to the Citizens United ruling.
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    • Author by alienofwar (July 28, 2010 10:26 am ET)
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      2/3rds of corporations don't pay any taxes at all, but do you ever hear them whining about that? No, because the narrative at Fox is to blame everything on the poor for all our problems and do everything we can to make sure the rich get richer (at the expense of the poor of course).
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      • Author by SMTDL (July 28, 2010 10:42 am ET)
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        Good point and they don't mention that they are talking only about Fed Income tax.These people pay state and local income taxes,property taxes ,sales tax,tax on gas,plus payroll taxes( Soc Security,Medicare).How would you justify them not voting when many laws controlling local issues are passed at the Federal level.Hence they have to vote in National and local elections or its "taxation with out representation!!!"
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    • Author by bailorgana (July 28, 2010 10:30 am ET)
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      Did he say that the Tea Party should not vote? LOL
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      • Author by soze169880 (July 28, 2010 10:36 am ET)
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        Well, considering a fair amount of them are already felons thanks to their meth labs I think it's kind of a moot point.
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    • Author by shaggles (July 28, 2010 11:16 am ET)
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      That's one of the most un-American things I've ever heard anyone say. These are the people who call liberals "elitist" yet they want to deny the vote to people in the lower income brackets. I've got news for them though. If only rich people get to vote then pretty soon no one will be paying any taxes.
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    • Author by Gravity_78 (July 28, 2010 11:17 am ET)
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      Wait so are you saying that the one voice one vote that is in the Constitution need not apply, if you one of the underclass? It sounds like Fixed Noise is preaching for a Plutocracy, remind what happened to Greece when it became one. Roman became a Plutocracy before they became a Theocracy.

      So what it really sounds like is, if you are not a Rich White Christian Male you have no right to vote.
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    • Author by usp (July 28, 2010 11:28 am ET)
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      just read the title. i guess it would be bad if i said 'put him up against the wall, and shoot him' right?
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