Beck suggests that U.S. is no longer "the country that you knew"
July 28, 2010 12:33 pm ET
From the July 28 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
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Previously:
"Dont be violent."
It's why I laugh every time Beck pretends to have some special historical insight.
I WANT MY AMERICA BACK...!!!
No. You need credit to buy a car you can't afford. Where I live, they still offer apartments and other rental properties that don't require credit. You can live without owning a home. You can live without car payments.
-"Credit cards are pushed onto unsupecting people as if they were magical"
No bank can force anyone to open a card. It isn't the banks fault if people sign up who are ignorant. They include paperwork with every account. I received my first card when I was eighteen. Guess how much credit card debt I currently have? $0. It is about personal responsibility. Although there are obviously some victims, but the majority of people were irresponsible with their debt. That isn't the banks fault. Also, banks encourage people to pay off their balance at the end of each billing period to avoid interest charges. If you do that, rising interest rates don't effect you. Obviously, you want to villainize lenders, but the customer isn't always the victim. Sometimes, the lender is too. See bankruptcy laws for proof.
The country I knew had a lying moron as its leader who ignored terrorist threats until it was too late, sent America's youth to die in a meaningless war, and when he wasn't spending us deeper into debt looked the other way while Wall Street crooks did their best to bring about economic ruin.
- GM Bailout
- TARP
- Cap and Trade
- Obamacare
- Stimulus
TARP--This was signed into law by George W. Bush on October 3, 2008 [Obama was NOT president at that time . . . he hadn't even been elected]. Again, while I disagreed with the premise of bailing out the big banks, I, once again, understand that it was necessary to prevent the complete meltdown of our nation's economy which was caused, in great part, by George W. Bush's failed NON-conservative economic policies.
Cap and Trade--no opinion on it at this time because at this point, it's not an issue.
Obamacare--First, there is no such thing as Obamacare. The Health Insurance Reform Act which was written by and passed by Congress makes good economic sense. When an uninsured person goes to an emergency room, the hospital has to eat the costs of this person's care. Since this person has probably, due to his/her lack of insurance, waited until he/she is VERY ill, those costs are apt to be very significant. The hospital, in order to stay in business, passes along the cost of those uninsured patients along to insurance companies who, in turn, pass those costs along to their insureds in the form of higher premiums and deductibles. The insureds, faced with higher premiums and deductibles are forced to drop their insurance and become the "uninsured" who go to the ER. And the circle continues. So, in effect, the cost to all concerned was increased by the status quo. Economically, this makes much more sense.
Stimulus--Again, this was a necessary evil due to the severe situation our country found itself on January 20, 2009. The failed NON-conservative policies of the Bush administration almost destroyed our country.
So, let me ask you . . . did you approve of the out of control spending done by the prior administration and its rubber stamp Congress? Did you approve of the disregard shown to the Constitution by the prior administration? Did you approve of the un-constitutional use of warrantless eavesdropping? If you say yes to any of the above, you are no conservative, just an authoritarian follower who parrots the faux conservative babble you hear on Fox/hate talk radio.
If you agreed with the policies of the prior administration . . . you are no conservative. It was NOT a conservative administration.
GM Bailout- Bad, bad decision. First, the gov't forced them into bankruptcy which screwed many of their vendors/creditors. Second, the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION forced the closings of dealerships and service centers. We are now finding that these decisions were based on discriminatory parameters. These decisions were not made based on sound economic terms. Here are some quotes from Barofsky.
-“The number and speed of the terminations was not necessarily critical to the manufacturers’ viability.”
-"the Obama Administration “made a series of decisions that may have substantially contributed to the accelerated shuttering of thousands of small businesses and thereby potentially adding tens of thousands of workers to the already lengthy unemployment rolls – all based on a theory and without sufficient consideration of the decisions’ broader economic impact.”
We have also learned that the union workers were bailed out. Ron Bloom said that they needed to close the privately owned businesses so that they could share the sacrifice with the union workers even though economics did not support that action.
HIRA or Obamacare- The emergency rooms are an issue. However, what about the economic impact of the costs being passed on to businesses? What about the jobs that will be lost because of these costs? In terms of economics, what about the pre-existing conditions clause? What about the fact that people will be forced/fined into insurance?
Stimulus- Necessary? Possibly, but was the way it was administered and spent the most sound economically? How many jobs have been put on hold because of this spending? How many companies aren't hiring because of the continuing programs being passed by this administration? The argument the administration, "It could have been much worse," is a moot argument. Anyone could say that. W could say that about his policies. It is a bad argument. We either have full employment, steady growing employment, flat employment, or shrinking employment. Right now, we have flat to shrinking employment. That doesn't sound like stimulus to me.
-"The failed NON-conservative policies of the Bush administration almost destroyed our country."
I agree that many of W's policies were not conservative. However, do you believe in pluralism? How much growth did we see since January of 2007? What about teen unemployment with relation to the increasing minimum wage? The is a lot of plurality that goes beyond W. I think we all need to recognize that.
-"did you approve of the out of control spending done by the prior administration and its rubber stamp Congress?"
Absolutely not. That isn't libertarianism.
-"Did you approve of the disregard shown to the Constitution by the prior administration?"
No, nor do I approve of it under this administration. This administration has continued those policies. Maybe you should be specific. Like, list which policies you are talking about. Obama has continued that trend. The forcing of citizens to buy insurance is unconstitutional as evidenced by the administration's floundering on the terminology. Is it a tax increase or not? According to Obama it isn't, but his lawyers are calling it a tax in court. Someone is lying...
-"Did you approve of the un-constitutional use of warrantless eavesdropping?"
No, and it has continued!!!
-"It was NOT a conservative administration."
Again, great point. That is why I would like for the finger-pointing at conservatism for this mess to stop. This point is refreshing to see on this page. It is CRONYISM by W and Obama. Obama ties in progressive rhetoric, but he is a cronyist as well. W use conservative rhetoric but was a cronyist as well.
I have and I've also said that the continuation of these policies which show disregard for the Constitution are among the things upon which I disagree with the Obama administration.
Your comments regarding the Health Insurance Reform Act follow the same logic I posted above. Nothing changes.
You and others attack me because I disagree with the faux conservative entertainers whose words are posted here . . . you folks equate agreement with these mostly uneducated, faux conservative, grossly overpaid entertainers to being a "conservative." It's not. They don't even believe the crap they're shoveling. It's their "hook." You know, like a song has a "hook" that will make the listener remember the song? "Don't Worry, Be Happy" ring a bell? That's what these folks are doing . . . it's what makes them money. It's not conservatism.
-"grossly overpaid entertainers"
Ahh, this is why I question your "conservatism". These people bring in MILLIONS of dollars to their respective partners. IT is econmically driven. Whoever is paying them doesn't find them overpayed. They have helped create billions of dollars in revenues for their respective sponsors. This in turn has helped create jobs. You make disagree with their opinions, but to say they are overpayed stretches the economic truth. To insult by saying "grossly overpaid" makes me question your conservatism based solely on economic arguments, not rhetorically.
-"They don't even believe the crap they're shoveling."
We can't know what anybody believes except for what they say and do. Beck and Limbaugh and Hannity give millions of dollars to charity each year. I disagree with some of what they say, but if they reference more freedom and liberty and less government, I agree with those statements that push a freedom and liberty based society. As a very smart man stated, "It is about the freedom to choose." (As a conservative, I'm sure you recognize who I am talking about.)
-"You're just a groupie and a gullible one"
Ahhh, I knew the insulting would begin at some point. You just couldn't resist could you. I'm waiting for a legitimate retort. Prove to me I am wrong. What do you have a problem with in what I wrote? Is it the fact that I want you to show how you are conservative? Is it the fact that I called you out about the economics of something as simple as compensation? Your statement is truly disappointing considering your usual history of responsible posts.
I'll wait...
No ,America is not the same, Glen in part because people like you get paid exorbitantly for spouting nonsense.
You guys have no clue as to what's coming. If you're really that jaded by the extremely pleasant way of American life (I don't think you realize how good we have it...) then BOY will you be surprised.