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Hannity asks why Vernon Jordan, but not Bill Cunningham, can say "Barack Hussein Obama"

July 28, 2010 10:49 pm ET

From the July 28 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

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Previously:

Conservative radio host Cunningham falsely referred to "Barack Mohammed Hussein Obama," advanced madrassa falsehood

On Fox News, Cunningham repeatedly referred to Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama"

Cunningham smeared Obama, used his middle name during appearance at McCain rally

Following McCain rally appearance, Bill Cunningham used Obama's middle name seven times on Hannity & Colmes

Cunningham invoked "[s]ix-six-six" and "the beast" in discussing "Barack Hussein Obama"

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    • Author by phredicles (July 28, 2010 10:50 pm ET)
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      Geezes H., this really is the only thing they can talk about, isn't it?
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    • Author by dogbreath (July 28, 2010 10:56 pm ET)
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      I haven't noticed that Bill Cunningham has been put in a federal prison or anything for saying Barack Hussein Obama. Honestly, is this the best you've got Hannity? What a loser.
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    • Author by proudconservative (July 28, 2010 11:16 pm ET)
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      Well in the world of racism, the double standard enjoyed by progressives of color and progressives that slip up and demonstrate their racism (speaking with a cracker lingo when needed) is that they can say anything they want without fear of being condemned as looking a someone's race before anything else. When a non-progressive or a person of color that is conservative speaks, there is always an attempt to frame it as racist by the main stream media.

      What is great though is that this ploy has become less acceptable to Americans who are able to see through the vapid rationale to paint any non-lefty as racist when they disagree with a person who claims to be colorblind.

      Speaking truth to/about progressives with a shout out to harry reid who sees obama as a "light skinned" African-American who can speak with no negro dialect and to joe 'bite me' biden who sees the president as the first 'clean' and 'articulate' african-american candidate, who off course were never, never, never given any breaks for their racist comments by the main stream media!
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 28, 2010 11:37 pm ET)
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        No thanks for your much unneeded ramblings. Unless you've been a person of color, you don't have a clue about what you spout. You're on the outside looking in and have no real desire to understand anything about people of color other than the rw talking points you have been trained to repeat.

        People of color know more about whites because we've always had to "live" according to their rules, whereas whites have never had to live according to anyone else's rules, except their own. And you'd be surprised how little animosity most of us have toward white people. Hating someone is not what most of us are about. It's a waste of time. We have more in common than most people realize. We love our kids, want them to have good educations, want them to become productive members of society, etc.

        Contrary to what is often said about us, we're not looking for a handout, we're not looking for the government to take care of us, and we don't want to take what someone else has. These are lies propagated for the personal and political gain of America's power brokers. I come from a long line of people of color who have always worked, owned homes, sent our kids to college, paid our taxes, etc., just like others in this country. We just want to be seen as equal to everyone else in this country, with the same opportunities. It's as simple as that.
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        • Author by TheDayV (July 28, 2010 11:42 pm ET)
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          The top of the mountain might be nearly exclusively white, but the bottom is not exclusively black. Lots of white people have to live by rules they don't like. Mind your generalizations, the bane of an articulate racial discourse.
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 28, 2010 11:50 pm ET)
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            The point I was making was about debunking generalizations. One cannot deny that people of color had no power in this country and had to live by rules established by whites. That was one outcome of slavery. I was referring to societal rules. Those who rule the society establish the rules, and we play by them. All of us. You misinterpreted what I was saying in my post, but I don't need anyone to tell me to "mind my generalizations." A question asking for clarification would have been in order, not an admonishment. We're all adults here, and none of us have the right to order anyone to do anything.
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            • Author by pilotx (July 29, 2010 3:45 am ET)
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              Yep. Been here over 300 years and many know nothing about us. That's ok though, kinda cool having a subculture no one is aware of.
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              • Author by MiniTru (July 29, 2010 7:26 am ET)
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                I'll bet you use the word "subculture" differently from the way Hannity, et al use it.
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                • Author by pilotx (July 29, 2010 2:24 pm ET)
                     
                  I hope I do everything in a diffferent way than Mr. Hannity.
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        • Author by proudconservative (July 29, 2010 9:21 am ET)
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          nextstopcugamunga,

          What does your or anyone else's experience have to do with it? If you say it does, then you have made my point that 'having the right experience' gives one license to get away with racist comments. Right experience here meaning of the correct political ideology, even though the individual is a racist.

          What 'white' rules have you had to live by that a person of non-color wouldn't understand? And if you adjust to live by them what does that say about you? Are you a sell out then?

          I have seen racism, and I have seen it condoned because of the 'circumstances'. It is never acceptable.

          I don't claim purity when it comes to racism, I suppose we all have a tendency to appraise each other according to race sometimes, but I make a better effort everyday to judge people according to the quality of their character. You and I are not aware of what each other does for a living, our personal experiences with racists but I see that we have common ground in what we have shared,

          "a long line of people of color who have always worked, owned homes, sent our kids to college, paid our taxes, etc., just like others in this country. We just want to be seen as equal to everyone else in this country, with the same opportunities. It's as simple as that."

          I am no fan of rev. wright, disagreeing with him doesn't make one a racist and your disagreement with me doesn't necessarily make you a racist either. What is upsetting to conservatives like myself, is that certain people get a pass with sometimes overt racism because of how they are defined ideologically by the mainstream media. When cunningham used obama's middle name, he was deemed a racist rather than just being derisive in a political campaign. When harry reid called bush stupid or when his opponents called out bush's alleged racism because of the Katrina response, that was perfectly fine. When Jordan uses it, it can't be racist maybe just derisive of those who claimed that a black man couldn't be elected president.

          As you said, there is less animosity for whites in the black community but understand that there is less animosity for blacks in the white community, especially conservatives who are striving to judge everyone on the quality of their character and not the color of their skin.
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          • Author by TheDayV (July 29, 2010 10:47 am ET)
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            Once again, race has little to do with this issue, except for the seemingly (poorly) cherry-picked, but legitimate comment about racist terrorists in the south during the civil rights movement. Cunningham's constant use of "Hussein" during the campaign was not in and of itself racist. It was an attempt to appeal to the dumber listeners: "Hussein's the name of our enemy, how can we elect an enemy to the WH?" Cunningham's racism is visible elsewhere. But, again, it's not at issue here.
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          • Author by pilotx (July 29, 2010 2:27 pm ET)
               
            Well Proud what instances of racism by white people have you seen and condemned? Inquiring minds want to know.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 29, 2010 9:33 am ET)
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          Shorter proudconservative: " I'm still mad that rappers can say the "N" word in public, and I have to do it behind closed doors !"
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      • Author by TheDayV (July 28, 2010 11:39 pm ET)
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        I don't see how race enters into this discussion. What's at issue here is the use of the President's middle name. What Hannity's argument is missing is evidence that Jordan uses the middle name all the time, which is what Cunningham clearly did during the campaign. You are responsible for the injection of race into this discussion, not any liberals of whatever colour you like.
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      • Author by soze169880 (July 28, 2010 11:48 pm ET)
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        Shorter loudcon: Because a couple of old men said some dumb things about Obama, it is impossible for any Republicans to be racist.
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        • Author by phredicles (July 29, 2010 12:48 am ET)
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          And that is itself an apparent variant on "Rappers get to drop the n-bomb; why can't I?".
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (July 29, 2010 9:39 am ET)
               
            Oops, sorry, should have scrolled down first. Funny how easy it is to boil all of that babbling down to its essence.

            You have to love the abuse of MLK's words towards the purpose of excusing racism, that's been a recent wingnut standard, and would be offensive if it weren't so hilarious.
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      • Author by New Frontier (July 28, 2010 11:52 pm ET)
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        How much does proud "conservative" hate us all? He'd spit on us if he could.
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 29, 2010 8:47 am ET)
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        If so called conservatives were honest they could probably not say anything the want,then lie and say they can't.Why can you say what you want to say instead of searching for something said on the other side saying what you want to say.Be Grown.Speaking of double standards.Why is it not ok to use someone's own words to paint them in an unpleasant light.But it is ok for you to do the same.
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      • Author by bintx (July 29, 2010 10:52 am ET)
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        Oh, shut up, you phony. You have no idea what you're talking about. You've been told that you are to hate all things "Democrat," so you do. Please quit using the name "proudconservative." You are an embarrassment to real conservatism.

        You're disgusting.

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    • Author by TheDayV (July 28, 2010 11:44 pm ET)
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      When Hannity laughed at Williams, I could not help but see this odd look on his face like he was trying to smile. And it's then that I realized that I've never seen a look on Hannity's face that struck me as genuine. Never.
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      • Author by alienofwar (July 28, 2010 11:56 pm ET)
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        100% agreed. Hannity is as fake as pro wrestling and silicon breast implants.
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        • Author by raddave43 (July 29, 2010 12:23 am ET)
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          At least pro wrestlers are willing to put their health on the line to give a good show, Sean won't even get waterboarded.
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    • Author by mjh (July 29, 2010 12:39 am ET)
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      Hannity asks why Vernon Jordan, but not Bill Cunningham, can say "Barack Hussein Obama"


      Who said he couldn't?

      I believe the President himself said "Barack Hussein Obama" -- the day he was inaugurated . . .

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      • Author by soze169880 (July 29, 2010 12:45 am ET)
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        Of course, in the interest of intellectual honesty, anyone who makes a habit of calling him that should also be referring to George Walker Bush, Ronald Wilson Reagan, etc.
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    • Author by David2012 (July 29, 2010 8:22 am ET)
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      As usual, context is everything.

      But fine. The right wing can use the President's name all they want to try to whip up racial animosity.

      That's clearly their agenda, and the most important thing to do is to make sure that people realize that's what is up.
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    • Author by magnolialover (July 29, 2010 8:42 am ET)
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      I'm pretty sure Cunningham still uses Obama's middle name on a relatively consistent basis. And it's not his middle name that is a question, it is HOW that middle name is used.

      As in, Cunningham uses it as a cudgel, and a fear tactic, as if, Obama is somehow, a deposed and executed dictator.

      For instance, he'll say, Barack HUSSSSEEEEIIIIINNNNNNN!!!!!! Obama.

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    • Author by rtejon (July 29, 2010 10:05 am ET)
         
      Differing intentions, maybe?
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