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Beck: "We are on the verge of losing freedom of religion"

July 29, 2010 12:19 pm ET

From the July 29 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

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Previously:

Beck: "We are being ruled now" by those who have "contempt for our Constitution, for religion"

Beck suggests Wash. Post is among "revolutionaries" who are "attacking religion"

Beck says progressives "got into our faith and religion" and "perverted it"

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    • Author by MickD (July 29, 2010 12:21 pm ET)
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      Don't worry, magic underwear man, your church has enough money to pay off the right people.
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      • Author by epichuntarz (July 29, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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        Actually, no one in the Mormon church serves in a paid position. Unlike other churches, the church leadership positions are not paid-any tithing monies or donations go to things like building new churches, missionary work, and charity type stuff.
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        • Author by Porkeater (July 29, 2010 1:04 pm ET)
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          True, but the church itself is a very wealthy organization; when the church wants to do publicity or file a lawsuit, they suffer few financial handicaps.
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        • Author by Ardiva (July 29, 2010 2:03 pm ET)
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          MickD was not talking about Mormon paid positions. He was talking about how much money the church has to be able to pay off any outsiders if need be.
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      • Author by Khyron (July 29, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
           
        Shoot and I was about to launch my new line of desinger magic underwear.Oh cruel fate
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    • Author by nerzog (July 29, 2010 12:22 pm ET)
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      Actually, the people most in danger of losing their freedom of religion in this country are American Muslims.

      The Angry White Christians are just the loudest whiners.
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      • Author by indigo1968 (July 29, 2010 12:27 pm ET)
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        This is what's always struck me the most about fundie Christians: they cry persecution amidst a religion that is the wealthiest and most powerful on Earth.

        It's like the white government in South Africa (circa 1984) citing persecution from the native black population - y'know, the people who've lived in Africa for thousands of years?



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        • Author by dogbreath (July 29, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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          They have victimhood down to a science.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (July 29, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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          Yes, the Fundies take it very hard when you do things like prevent them from proselytizing at work or school. They have to be able to force themselves on you or they're being picked on.
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      • Author by timesthree (July 29, 2010 12:39 pm ET)
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        Yes, Beck, there is an attack on religion. Freedom of religion is in danger. Ask any Muslim in the US. Yes, they are being demonized everyday on Weasel News.
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        • Author by historygeek001 (July 29, 2010 1:53 pm ET)
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          Beck, who attacked Christianity by claiming that "social justice" was code for "communism" and actively told people to leave their churches if their pastors advocated social justice/fairness, ignoring literally hundreds of Bible passages about social justice, is now complaining about freedom or religion. He also says on his national radio and television shows that people like him are being "silenced." Who can possibly believe anything this guy says?
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      • Author by Porkeater (July 29, 2010 5:22 pm ET)
           
        The Angry White Christians are just the loudest whiners.

        and the ones with the most advanced sense of entitlement.
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    • Author by Dem02020 (July 29, 2010 12:23 pm ET)
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      I think it was about the third time that the Boy Cried Wolf, that the people dismissed his noise, and just stayed in their Churches, enjoying the freedom of religion they obviously had.

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    • Author by indigo1968 (July 29, 2010 12:24 pm ET)
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      What difference does it make?

      After all, according to Beck last week the American republic is now gone, and we're all now living in an as of yet unnamed Soviet-style gulag. So shouldn't it be logical the constitution be history as well?

      Hell, bring it on. Hopefully, by next week we'll all be ruled by damned dirty apes.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 29, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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        Good point. In the Mad Max world he's foretelling, we'll all be too busy scrounging for food, bullets and petrol for our dune buggies.
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      • Author by MickD (July 29, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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        Indigo and Nerz, I want you two to do a Beck episode, Mystery Science Theater 3000 style, that was nothing short of hilarious.
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        • Author by indigo1968 (July 29, 2010 1:05 pm ET)
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          Too easy. Way too easy.

          But the point stands - just last week Beck claimed the USA was extinct, and now is claiming that we're inches away from losing our constitutional liberties. So was he wrong then, or is he wrong now?

          The answer is, Beck's always wrong, but his audience is just too stupid to realize it as they scramble to their PCs to send him their credit card numbers. And in this respect, I have to give Beck grudging respect for being the greatest media grifter of the past century. He truly knows how to part a fool from his/her money; how else could he afford his digs up in CT?

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          • Author by nerzog (July 29, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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            I really think he's taking his cue from the Televangelists. It's a classic scam; scare the crap out of your audience with phony prophecies, then offer to sell them a book that will reveal the secrets to survival of the coming conflagration.

            I saw John Hagee doing this very thing last weekend on a one hour infomercial. He and some church lady were discussing all the impending doomsday scenarios hanging over our heads, and every five minutes or so he would reference his new book, and how chapter so-and-so tells you six ways to protect your family from the coming nuclear holocaust. Of course, he wouldn't reveal this vital, life-saving information on the show... you have to buy the book.

            It's shameless, classic hucksterism. Five Hundred years ago, Glenn Beck would have been peddling fake religious relics.
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            • Author by indigo1968 (July 29, 2010 1:31 pm ET)
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              Agreed 100%.

              Beck knows he's got his heavily-white, over-55 audience suckered because he pimps their fears and paranoia daily. So why shouldn't he take their Social Security checks as well?



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            • Author by papa bear3 (July 29, 2010 1:43 pm ET)
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              . . .this is scary and a bit off-putting, but Beck reminds me a lot of Bishop Fulton Sheen I was forced to watch as a child, the use of the blackboard, the long doleful looks into the camera, the sincere tones, the lofty thoughts summoning us to great and noble deeds, . . .and donations

              or was that Captain Kangaroo,


              In FOX world, Captain Kangaroo, Beck, the City of Seattle, what's the difference
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              • Author by SimpleTruths (July 29, 2010 2:11 pm ET)
                   
                papa Bear3

                Bishop Fulton Sheen, my god that dredges up some childhood nightmares. But you are spot on now that I think back on it, wow.
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                • Author by indigo1968 (July 29, 2010 5:19 pm ET)
                     
                  I just saw a picture of Bishop Sheen. He looks like a bad Dracula knock-off.
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        • Author by Major Tom (July 29, 2010 1:08 pm ET)
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          lol. I'd watch it.
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    • Author by David2012 (July 29, 2010 12:25 pm ET)
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      Yes, you are going to be forbidden to worship by the dictatorship, before they throw you in reeducation camps, take away your children and all your possessions, and then exterminate most of you.

      But don't be violent, folks.

      What "things" are "in the pipeline", Glenn, over the next year that threaten freedom of religion? Shouldn't we know what they are?
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      • Author by SimpleTruths (July 29, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
           
        It's all revealed in the book silly, while your at it you might want to stock up on those survival garden seed bank deals too.
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    • Author by rikntx (July 29, 2010 12:25 pm ET)
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      An attack on faith? Things in the pipeline that are coming down now that will stop your church from being able to preach the thing and do the things that they do.."? What "things"? What "pipeline"? Got proof of that statement? Yeah, I thought not.

      "I've talked to the leaders of almost every large faith in America." Oh yeah? Name two.

      Lying sack of unadulterated cow manure.
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      • Author by MiniTru (July 29, 2010 12:46 pm ET)
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        "I've talked to the leaders of almost every large faith in America."
        But he's afraid of Jim Wallis.
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        • Author by MidnightWriter (July 29, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
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          I'm betting he's talked to these unnamed leaders as often as he's talked to Wallis.

          Which, of course, means he hasn't talked with anyone.

          Beck, you're the worst kind of charlatan.
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      • Author by carlh (July 29, 2010 2:38 pm ET)
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        EXACTLY!

        What things?!
        What pipeline?!
        Which leaders?!
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (July 29, 2010 12:28 pm ET)
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      If religion is on the ropes, Glenn, it isn't because of anything the Obama administration is doing. Perhaps religions should look inward for the answers.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 29, 2010 12:33 pm ET)
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        Maybe if the churches did more church stuff, and less pimping for Republican politicians? Just a thought...
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    • Author by epkklk851 (July 29, 2010 12:33 pm ET)
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      Glennie, the U.S. is the most religious of all the developed nations. There are churches all over the place. Megachurches have all kinds of people attending and they offer all kinds of services to get their flock's money. Some of the mainline churches are suffering from a lack of attendance, my own Catholic Church has lost some members to Megachurches. How can you say we are close to losing our Freedom of Religion, unless, of course, you mean the ability to go out and impose your beliefs onto others. The Mormon Church in California devoted church money to passing Prop 8, and that could cost them their tax exempt status. But I don't see my Church going anywhere. They support Social Justice, and they try to help immigrants, and they support homeless charities. And they don't go door to door bothering people and trying to get them to switch churches.
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    • Author by Rsw58 (July 29, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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      The man has truly lost his mind. So he tells his audience that in the next year "they" are going to move to prevent freedom of religion in this country. Who is this "they" he keeps harping about on every program? And if he knows details of this so-called plot why doesn't he tell his audience what it entails? Oh that's right, he just wants to keep them scared and stupid.
      I recall last spring he was talking about "rivers of blood" in the streets of America this summer due to the progressives attacking good, God-fearing Americans. Uhh Glennie, summer is almost over and there ain't nothing happening yet. Oh wait, he recently said that this will now take place in the Fall! Yeah right before the election when all the commie progressives take to the streets to attack anyone who wants to vote Republican.
      As for his claim that he has spoken to the leaders of all the major religious organizations in America and they agree with him all I have to say is----yeah, right. Just like I believe someone from the Vatican told him he was "wildly important."
      Beck is delusional and I can't believe people are dumb enough to believe him.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 29, 2010 12:39 pm ET)
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        He means that he's spoken to John Hagee and Pat Robertson. They're the only "Religious Leaders" who count in Wingnutistan.
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        • Author by indigo1968 (July 29, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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          Maybe Beck should partake of Pat Robertson's age-defying pancakes. He's looking a tad grayer up top.
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      • Author by MiniTru (July 29, 2010 12:48 pm ET)
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        Who is this "they" he keeps harping about on every program?
        The whacked-out voices in his head.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (July 29, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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      Do Beck's goober fans ever notice that nothing he predicts ever comes to fruition? Check back in a year and tell me if Obama has done anything to shut down churches...
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      • Author by nerzog (July 29, 2010 12:41 pm ET)
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        Yet he brags about how everything he's predicted has come true. The man is a pathological liar.
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    • Author by vipervisor766 (July 29, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
         
      He is throwing anything against the wall now.
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    • Author by MidnightWriter (July 29, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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      Not just bulls**t, but utterly nauseating bulls**t coming from a man who has repeatedly urged people to leave their places of worship if they should dare utter anything about "collective salvation," and "social justice."

      You've talked to religions leaders about this, Glenn? Which religious leaders representing which churches and which faiths? You're standard use of anonymous, but trust me, really, really, really important people falls particularly flat on this subject.

      This is about as vile of a charge as you can make, Glenn, and it's a high example of why we go after you for using unsupported claims that stoke fear and inspire hatred in your listeners who cannot seem to think for themselves. You can't drop something like this and then hide behind, "Remember, don't be violent," with any kind of justification, much less the false nonsense that spill out of your mouth.

      If you truly are a man of faith, Glenn, (and with words like these there's serious reason to doubt it) I hope you're prepared for a trip to that fiery lake resort you were suggesting the President was headed towards yesterday.
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    • Author by armendale (July 29, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
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      Beckerheads like Byron Williams are driven by the false fears stoked and revealed to them by this lone voice in the wilderness.

      In the twisted minds of many of his followers, Beck IS the modern day Paul Revere and John The Baptist.

      In order to stand apart from the other right-wing crazies like Limbaugh and Savage et al, Beck has carved out a marketplace in far-right media as a seer, a prophet, and a diviner of revealed truth.

      Beck alone has been given God's plan laid out for him on gold tablets to impart to his desperate sheep.
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      • Author by Litwiz (July 29, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
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        And he'll tell you right after this commercial from Goldline.
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      • Author by MiniTru (July 29, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
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        In the twisted minds of many of his followers, Beck IS the modern day Paul Revere and John The Baptist.
        And Paul Revere didn't make the ride he is famous for, and John the Baptist ended up beheaded.

        Beck should be real careful about what he wishes for.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 29, 2010 12:52 pm ET)
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        Good observation. Beck is willing to do what the other Troglodytes have not... pretend to have divine revelation which just happens to sound like Republican talking points.
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        • Author by Porkeater (July 29, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
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          Well, he has no pedagogic nor moral nor experiential authority, so his authority must come from gawd!
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    • Author by armendale (July 29, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
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      All those things that our Founders fought a revolutionary war for including Freedom of Religion and the right to bear arms etc., are under attack and are on the verge of being taken away from us.

      But don't be violent.
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    • Author by donwelty (July 29, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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      And Beck comes in to save the day with his 4 Gs--God, Guns, Gold, and Glenn. Religion is on the ropes? Really? Which religions are they? What ropes are they? God talks to you, Glenn. Oh, profit of doom, please tell us more. How can we protect ourselves?

      The biggest assault on religion and freedom of speech comes from idiots like you, GB, who want to cram YOUR version of religion down everybody's throats. When Mormon, know-nothing missionaries want to talk about religion, they want to talk about their religion. When you, Beck almighty, want to talk about religion, it's the 4 Gs.
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      • Author by Litwiz (July 29, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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        I used to get the missionaries quite a bit--they'd stop on their bikes when I was out watering my yard. I accidentally hit upon the way to get Mormon missionaries from stoppi g or knocking on my door: Ask them how many wives they'll need and how many children they'll need to get to be a god on their own planet in the afterlife. They don't like it when someone knows that part of their dogma.

        No one's knocked since. I kid you not.
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    • Author by Gravity_78 (July 29, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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      Of course religion is on the ropes, that is because more and more people are realizing it's fool of crap. But to keep saying that Christianity is under attack is just plain wrong. For one thing when a group of non-believers put up a sign that says, "Don't believe in god, you not alone:" and the people receive death threats. Secondly there are about 127 billboard signs from churches in the city were I live, and not one of those churches ever receive death threats.

      So please give it up Christian is not under attack in this country; but it sure as h*ll needs to be.
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      • Author by carlh (July 29, 2010 2:39 pm ET)
           
        Take that hate elsewhere dude.
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      • Author by tman418 (July 29, 2010 8:30 pm ET)
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        Gravity,

        No religion needs to be under attack. That would be a clear violation of religious freedom in the country.

        I don't want to assume that your politics lean to the left, but if they do, your comments show that you are no better than religious extremists, or condescending "evangelicals" such as Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell (and his son).
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    • Author by bintx (July 29, 2010 12:59 pm ET)
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      Yes, we are, if people like you have your way. I'm a Christian, but I don't share the beliefs of say . . . Sarah Palin, you, O'Reilly. I don't want folks like you telling me that I have to worship in the same manner that you do. I don't feel the need to tell you that you have to worship in the same manner as I.

      I want some evidence that there are "things in the pipeline," Beck. Your words are not evidence . . . you lie too much.

      Oh, and faith? Faith is "the substance of things hoped, the evidence of things not seen." It doesn't mean religion.
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      • Author by Porkeater (July 29, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
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        "things in the pipeline"

        perhaps he meant "in the pipe".
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      • Author by Johaely (July 29, 2010 1:17 pm ET)
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        With people like Beck pushing against the construction of the Muslim community center and being appaled at the idea that, LE GASP, Muslims want to expand their religion, any charge of religious opression of any sort is offensively ridiculous.

        We live in a country where the idea that our president may have been Muslim, Catholic or even atheist is treated as grounds for blocking. For these people, freedom of Religion means "Freedom to practice a branch of Christianity". This is even the idea of that David Barton man who is a "teacher" at Beck U and the founder of the ironically named Wallbuilders.
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      • Author by dmhack (July 29, 2010 1:25 pm ET)
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        bintx,
        Palin, Beck, HillBilly et al aren't really Christians. They are opportunists who use the Bible for cover.


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        • Author by bintx (July 29, 2010 1:35 pm ET)
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          But the brand of "Christianity" they preach is not what 4/5 of the Christians in this country believe. That's why the founders wanted religion to be kept out of government and vice versa. Both would suffer.

          This is just more promo crap for Beck's ridiculous book.
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          • Author by nerzog (July 29, 2010 1:52 pm ET)
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            Absolutely. Even among Protestant denominations, they can't agree on the piddly details of doctrine.

            That's why the Founders were wise in keeping Religion out of Government. If we think our current government is inefficient, imagine them spending months on end trying to agree on "God's will".
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    • Author by Johaely (July 29, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
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      I haven't heard anybody discussing abolishing the first ammendment, Beck. Why must you scare your audience of crazy people and old people?
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    • Author by rtejon (July 29, 2010 1:12 pm ET)
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      Think we'd still have religious freedom if Beck's faction of the LDS church were in control?
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    • Author by armendale (July 29, 2010 1:16 pm ET)
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      I was raised Baptist, so I'm all too familiar with what Glenn is pedaling to his worshipers.

      First, understand that Glenn's faithful believe it is foretold that as God's people they WILL BE persecuted, particularly in the last days. This is an especially exciting time in the minds of those who call themselves Christian, because it means the Second Coming and that Good defeats Evil and the fulfillment of prophecy, yada yada.

      The world through the prism that Glenn provides is alluringly simple to understand. Glenn and his faithful are the force of light and good beset on all sides by the forces of evil and "darkness." The darkness reference of course has taken on a more literal meaning since Obama has taken power.

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      • Author by Johaely (July 29, 2010 1:19 pm ET)
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        He now has upped the ante of religious persecution with his talk in the last days of demons, "dark dudes", Angels and all that stuff.
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      • Author by Porkeater (July 29, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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        in the minds of those who call themselves Christian

        Like your post, except that phrase. I'd amend it to many who call themselves Christian. I call myself Christian (or trying to be); and there are many like me for whom that means trying to be a good person, rather than fiddling with bumper-sticker theology, eschatological theory, end-times revelations, and icky sticky points of dogma.

        Point taken, though. :)
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      • Author by nerzog (July 29, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
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        True. The Evangelical Nutbags have been on the cusp of an eschatological orgasm ever since the modern state of Israel was established. Now they find themselves well beyond a Biblical Generation since that momentous prophetic milestone, and Jesus is nowhere in sight. The Armageddon junkies are perpetually scrambling to maintain their End-Times delusions.
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      • Author by bintx (July 29, 2010 1:53 pm ET)
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        Depends on what kind of Baptist you are . . . most Christians in this country don't really subscribe to the whole Left Behind scenario. I know that the Bible professors at our local Baptist university warn their students to stay away from this sort of teaching.
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    • Author by shaggles (July 29, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
         
      Talk about pulling something out of your a$$. The only people who are against freedom of religion are anti-Islam freaks like Pam Geller and Beck himself who accuses churches of being perversions of the gospels.
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    • Author by magnolialover (July 29, 2010 2:11 pm ET)
         
      I just have to go to my hometown in Maine to know that this is un-true. Why?

      Well, in my town of less than 3400 people, there are 4 churches. Filled. Every. Single. Week.

      Christianity ain't going anywhere Beck. There are more than enough churches to go around.
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    • Author by BigJay (July 29, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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      Actually, *GASP* I agree with Glennie on this one (never thought I'd say that) - but not for the people Glennie is targeting this BS towards...

      When people of any religion are not allowed to build community centers SOLELY because of their religious affiliation, then I believe that we are losing our freedom of religion...

      Now Glennie, I want you to do some things for me (that you are most likely going to do for yourself anyway):
      1) Repeat this on-air at FNC.
      2) Foment hatred for one of the many "mosques" that are being held up by the islamaphobes, even though many of these "mosques" are just community centers (which will be open to all people).

      And remember, Beck doesn't launch baseless attacks on ANYONE or EVER make false statements or EVER take ANYONE out of context...
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    • Author by armendale (July 29, 2010 2:15 pm ET)
         
      Glenn is the quintessential false prophet many of his faithful have been warned about.

      I fear that besides Beckerhead Byron Williams, there will be others who blindly mistake Glenn's Koolaid for the sacramental wine.
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    • Author by WarrenProject (July 29, 2010 2:18 pm ET)
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      I dont want to stop anyone from worshiping any god or gods they choose. Myself, I am a polyatheist. There are many gods I dont believe in. I dont expect the government to support my non belief of your belief. It is past time for religion to pay for its ride. No more tax free tv. No more regulation supporting faith based, anything. Pay your taxes and vote, like the rest of us have to.
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    • Author by armendale (July 29, 2010 2:50 pm ET)
         
      One of the most pernicious, self-perpetuating paradoxes in dealing with Glenn Beck and his minions is that the more we assail their false statements and beliefs, the more steadfastly they cling to them.

      You see, the fact that we would challenge Glenn on the truthfulness of his claims is all the more PROOF of the legitimacy of said claims. AND, questioning Glenn is tantamount to persecuting Glenn's religion because what he is saying was "revealed" to him by God.
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    • Author by David2012 (July 29, 2010 5:31 pm ET)
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      Give me that old time religion
      Give me that old time religion
      Give me that old time religion
      It's good enough for me.

      We will pray with Aphrodite,
      We will pray with Aphrodite,
      She wears that see-through nightie,
      And it's good enough for me.

      We will pray with Zarathustra,
      We'll pray just like we use ta,
      I'm a Zarathustra booster,
      And it's good enough for me.

      We will pray with those Egyptians,
      Build pyramids to put our crypts in,
      Cover subways with inscriptions,
      And it's good enough for me.

      We will pray with those old druids,
      They drink fermented fluids,
      Waltzing naked though the woo-ids,
      And it's good enough for me.

      We will pray to dear old Buddha,
      Of the gods there is none cuter,
      Comes in silver, brass or pewter,
      And he's good enough for me."

      We do dances to bring water,
      Prepare animals for slaughter,
      Sacrifice our sons and daughters,
      And it's good enough for me.

      I'll arise at early morning,
      When my Lord gives me the warning,
      That the solar age is dawning,
      And it's good enough for me.
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