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Fox calls 14th Amendment "the anchor baby amendment"

August 04, 2010 8:42 am ET

From the August 4 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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Previously:

Doocy: "Maybe it's time to go ahead and re-examine" the 14th amendment

WSJ lets AZ state senator rewrite history in attack on birthright citizenship

ABC News' "birth tourism" article filled with contradictions, misleading claims, dubious sources

Fox Nation uses "derogatory, even racist" term "anchor babies"

Beck decries "the anchor baby thing," asks "Why do we have automatic citizenship upon birth?"

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    • Author by einreb (August 04, 2010 8:48 am ET)
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      This entire group certainly marches as one. "Anchor babies" is the newest term, appearing at the top of all the Republican talking points this morning.
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      • Author by soze169880 (August 04, 2010 8:50 am ET)
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        "Sp!c" will be mainstream with this crowd in a few years.
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        • Author by MiniTru (August 04, 2010 8:52 am ET)
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          It already is, just not yet in public.
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          • Author by John Paradox (August 04, 2010 2:31 pm ET)
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            Firesign:
            It's sp!cks and w0ps and n!igger and k!kes
            With noses as long as your arm!
            It's m!cks and ch!inks and g00ks and geeks
            and honkies (Honk! Honk!) who never leaf the farm!

            That's America, buddy!
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      • Author by timesthree (August 04, 2010 9:41 am ET)
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        They neglect to mention that the so called anchor baby can't begin the process to sponsor their parents until the child is 21 years old. That's quite a chain attached to those anchors.
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      • Author by indigo1968 (August 04, 2010 10:13 am ET)
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        I wonder if Michelle Malkin is getting nervous?
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        • Author by GreatMonkMiroku (August 04, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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          Oh it would warm my heart if they retroactively rescind birthright citizenship, nullify her citizenship, and send her back. And that's going down deep into Coulter territory for me.
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    • Author by soze169880 (August 04, 2010 8:49 am ET)
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      Okay. In that case, I'm gonna call the 2nd Amendment the "overcompensation for latent homosexuals amendment" and the 5th Amendment the "I'm only confirming my guilt by invoking it" amendment. Oh, and the 21st is the Glenn Beck amendment, obviously.
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      • Author by progressivevoicedaily (August 04, 2010 9:07 am ET)
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        Excellent way to break it down soze. I find this term "anchor babie" quite offensive actually. At least the right is pretty much ensuring the entire legal Hispanic population will vote D for drive, instead of R for reverse.
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        • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 10:34 am ET)
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          How is it either offensive or not accurate? Being born here makes you a citizen, but why should your parents get to stay? Anchor baby. It fits. And how does it only apply to Hispanics?
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (August 04, 2010 10:40 am ET)
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            Sure maybe we could identify all wingnuts as bilge scum. If fits!
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            • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 10:46 am ET)
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              If the wingnut was born here by illegal immigrant parents, we sure could. It would fit. If not, they are just citizens that you politically don't agree with.
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              • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 10:50 am ET)
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                and "anchor babies" are just citizens that you don't like.
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                • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 10:55 am ET)
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                  I have no problem with the anchor baby. I have a problem with the parents who purposely gave birth to them in this country so they could stay...on purpose.
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                  • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2010 11:00 am ET)
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                    Some "anchor babies" aren't for that purpose. Some parents just want their children to have an american citizenship so that they could move freely through the world witouth ahving to pay and wait for visas.
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                    • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:07 am ET)
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                      So you admit that some parents come here illegally for the sole purpose of having an anchor baby for the benefits.
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                      • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2010 11:34 am ET)
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                        Not all of them come illegally. My parents came legally multiple times for the simple reason that they wanted me and my sisters to have american citizenship and couldn't stay. "Illegals" come for similar reasons. They want to start a new life and want their children to do so too. But they aren't "reaping the benefits of being a U.S. citizen" like you said below. they must keep a low profile lest they be deported.
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                  • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:01 am ET)
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                    If you have problems with parents giving birth in this country to U.S. citizens, then you have a problem with that citizen as well.
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                    • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:10 am ET)
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                      There is nothing I can do about the baby. He/she's here. I can oppose those that purposely come here to give birth so they can reap the benefits of being a US citizen.
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                  • Author by skycatcher (August 04, 2010 11:10 am ET)
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                    Dave, I commented on/questioned a similar post months ago and still do not have a response.

                    How are the parents being "anchored" here through a child? As someone accurately mentioned above, the child cannot sponsor the parents until the child reaches the age of 21. The parents do not have any increased rights as a result of having given birth to an American citizen and still, just as ever, subject to deportation.

                    Please explain.
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                      • Author by jjamele2880 (August 04, 2010 11:14 am ET)
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                        "I can oppose those that purposely come here to give birth so they can reap the benefits of being a US citizen. "

                        Like freedom of speech, worship, assembly, the press....yeah, what a bunch of selfish, rights-demanding a$$holes.

                        Unlike your ancestors, who came here for...what again?
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                        • Author by MiniTru (August 04, 2010 11:54 am ET)
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                          Like freedom of speech, worship, assembly, the press....yeah, what a bunch of selfish, rights-demanding a$$holes.
                          Actually, those benefits accrue to anyone who is in the country, not just citizens. The Constitution specifically says the rights apply to "persons," not "citizens."
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                      • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:15 am ET)
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                        How can you oppose how they came here and not be opposed to them?
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                        • Author by ilikeike (August 04, 2010 12:27 pm ET)
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                          because when you say opposed to them you imply that it is racism that makes me opposed to illegal immigrants and its not. i want the same rules to apply to people who immigrate from europe or the u.k.as they would apply to people from every where else in the world. i support immigration, i think its what makes north america great. i am still opposed to illegal immigrants or people who dont go through the process properly
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                    • Author by ilikeike (August 04, 2010 12:24 pm ET)
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                      why does dislike of illegal immigration automatically confer dislke of immigrants. my neighbourhood is amazing in that it is filled with people from or descended from africa, s.america and asia and the caribbean. it is a culturally rich, friendly neighbourhood and a great place to raise kids. it is an example of multiculturism at its best and i wouldnt live anywhere else. that being said i still dont like illegal immigration or people who game the system to unfairly get themselves or there kids citizenship
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                    • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:12 am ET)
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                      And the way the immigration policy is, thos parents could and most likely would be denied a resident visa because they entered this country illegally to begin with.
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                      • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 2:59 pm ET)
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                        Anyone who spells it "neighbourhood" isn't an American, but either Canadian or British and could possibly be here illegally. I demand you prove your citizenship. Dislike of illegal immigration came from the dislike of immigration. Our immigration laws were enacted to restrict certain ethinic groups and NOT to "secure our borders"
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                      • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:21 am ET)
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                        I can't dispute the law. If you're born here, you're a citizen. The baby can stay, the parents should be deported.
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                        • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:24 am ET)
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                          It's not the law, it's the Constitution. So you want another orphan that the state will have to care for?
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                          • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:28 am ET)
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                            That would be one person that the state has to care for, as opposed to three. Hey, if it were up to me, they all would be gone. Illegal is illegal.
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                            • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:52 am ET)
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                              But a person born in this country isn't illegal, in fact no one is illegal. Their status may be illegal, but they aren't illegal.
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                            • Author by Quicksilver M.S (August 04, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
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                              dave:
                              "That would be one person that the state has to care for, as opposed to three. "

                              dave, are you saying that ALL of the parents who give Birth to a Child in the USA ... just want a free ride.... They expect that the Government will house them , feed them and take care of the Health problems? Am I understanding you Correctly ?

                              This award is for YOU !
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                              • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 12:59 pm ET)
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                                I'm saying if you are illegal, you should be deported as an illegal leech. If you are taking money from the feds for your offspring, then you are a legal leech. I hate you both.
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                        • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:24 am ET)
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                          It's not the law, it's the Constitution. So you want another orphan that the state will have to care for?
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                        • Author by progressivevoicedaily (August 04, 2010 12:40 pm ET)
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                          Who takes care of the baby then dave?? Angelina Jolie?
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                          • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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                            In a perfect world, the parents should. In this world of nonsense, I guess I am.
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                      • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 10:13 pm ET)
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                        So what?
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                    • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:15 am ET)
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                      I can answer that. When was last time the parents of an anchor baby were deported from this country?
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                      • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:16 am ET)
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                        that isn't an answer.
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                      • Author by jjamele2880 (August 04, 2010 11:20 am ET)
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                        I hope to God I never have to live with the shame of being the citizen of a nation that would tear parents away from their children by forcing the parents to choose between being separated and giving their kid a chance at a decent life in a prosperous, free nation, or keeping the family together but living in poverty elsewhere. So I'm hoping that the answer to your question is "its never happened, and never will, because we aren't the brutal, disgusting, cold-blooded nation Dave wants us to be."
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                        • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:25 am ET)
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                          That's exactly where the anchor baby term comes into place. They get to stay because we are a nation of pu**ies. Try this in Mexico and see where it gets you.

                          If you don't want to be broken up, stay in your own country instead of trying to work the system here.
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                          • Author by jjamele2880 (August 04, 2010 11:28 am ET)
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                            "They get to stay because we are a nation of pu**ies."

                            And you get to stay because- why? Oh that's right, because you won the genetic lottery and were born here, unlike these poor suckers, who can go to hell as far as you are concerned.

                            Tells us everything we need to know about your level of basic human decency and respect for humanity, Dave. Not that this is anything new for you.
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                            • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:37 am ET)
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                              No, I'm telling you everything you need to know about securing our borders.
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                              • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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                                From what? The evil illegal who is coming here to kidnap, murder and rape you and your family? If someone is here ilegally to get an "anchor baby" i doubt that they have come to comit crimes.
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                                • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:48 am ET)
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                                  A country without borders isn't a country. Its a lawnmower mark.
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                                  • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:50 am ET)
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                                    That makes no sense at all.
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                                    • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:57 am ET)
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                                      Coming from you, that is not surprising.
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                                      • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 12:01 pm ET)
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                                        Yes, because unlike you, I have sense.
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                                        • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 12:17 pm ET)
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                                          You have no sense, Dave43. You have no idea who's here legally, nor do you care. You have no intention of keeping the ones who are not here legally out, or deporting the ones who should be deported. And you apperently could care less if illgals are here or not. The more the merrier. Is that about right? That lawnmower mark making sense yet?
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                                          • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 1:30 pm ET)
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                                            No dave, you have no sense. You see people who are here illegally as the boogyman, you are afraid of them because you see them as a threat to your existance. Our Country was founded on immigrants and we had no real restrictions until xenophobes like you got into positions of power and enacted immigration laws. Lawnmower mark makes as much sense now as when you first spewed it.
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                                            • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 2:02 pm ET)
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                                              You are clouding two issues. Legal immigrants have been screened for skills, etc. Illegals just hop a fence. Big difference.
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                                              • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 2:54 pm ET)
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                                                They are the same issue. Most legal immigrants are legal immigrants because they either marry a citizen, have a close relative become a citizen or they win a lottery. The issue on immigration has always been clouded by winguts, first they wanted to ban Asians, then it was Hispanics and Africans.
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                                                • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 3:12 pm ET)
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                                                  The issue is clouded by you. No matter how they became are legal, they are legal. Illegal/legal are not the same issue. One is illegal, one is not.
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                                                  • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 3:24 pm ET)
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                                                    Fear of illegal immigrants were born from the fear of immigrants. Our immigration laws were enacted to restrict people from "less desirable" parts of the earth. If you don't know or can't see this, then you are either blind or stupid.
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                                                    • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2010 3:42 pm ET)
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                                                      He seems to hold some parts of those views since he mentioned in a previous comments how legal immigrants are screened for skills while "illegals" just hop the border.
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                                  • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
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                                    A country without borders isn't a country. Its a lawnmower mark.


                                    Tell that to members of the EU that have had open borders between other EU countries since the early 90s.
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                            • Author by ilikeike (August 04, 2010 12:30 pm ET)
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                              so what do you propose opening up the borders for everyone who wants in.being concerned for your nation is not a sign of selfishness
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                              • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 1:31 pm ET)
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                                and how pray tell is it harming our country by letting everyone who wants in come in?
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                                • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 2:05 pm ET)
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                                  and how pray tell is it harming our country by letting everyone who wants in come in?

                                  That couldn't have been a real statement.
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                                  • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
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                                    I see you didn't answer the question though.
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                                    • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 3:27 pm ET)
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                                      Are you kidding? Just for openers, we already have a 10% unemployment rate. What's another 100m immigrants going to do about that? Collect benefits?
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                                      • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 5:19 pm ET)
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                                        Well how about this scenario. If immigrants aren't here illegally, then businesses would not be able to hire them at lower than minimum wages, therefore removing the incentive to hire them in the first place. Demand for jobs goes down, immigrants won't be coming here to look for work as much. Therefore we reduce immigration.

                                        The truth is there have been periods of great numbers if immigrants to the country, between 1850-1930, there were millions of immigrants to the country. The country has always been able to absorb those immigrants and helped expand our economy.
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                                      • Author by iglou (August 04, 2010 6:35 pm ET)
                                           
                                        Be angry at the employers. They are the ones hiring. The immigrants come to work. If no one was hiring people without being a citizen or without proper documentation the problem would evaporate. You could deal with this problem without dumping dollars on borders or without having to take away fundamental rights.

                                        It really is that easy.
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                          • Author by New Frontier (August 04, 2010 12:08 pm ET)
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                            we are a nation of pu**ies
                            Maybe we should amass a gigantic pile of nuclear weapons, build military bases around the world, or invade a couple of countries--preferably Muslim nations--just to show everyone that we're not pu**ies.
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                          • Author by progressivevoicedaily (August 04, 2010 12:40 pm ET)
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                            Were not Mexico!! That's the whole Fricken point dude!
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                        • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 12:35 pm ET)
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                          And that's why we have between 11-20m illegals in this country. Nice job. I'll put in the pu**y side of border security.
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                          • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 1:32 pm ET)
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                            we have 0 illegals in this country because NO ONE is "illegal" they are here illegal, but they are not "illegals"
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                            • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 2:08 pm ET)
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                              Argue semantics if you must. There's a crapload of people here who shouldn't be, and this country is too afraid to get rid of them.
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                          • Author by New Frontier (August 04, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
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                            I'll put in the pu**y side of border security.
                            I couldn't give a sh!t where you put me, but you said "we're a nation of pu**ies", remember? Sorry if this nation of ours with the arsenal to blow up the world ten times over leaves you limp, but that's your problem.
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                      • Author by skycatcher (August 04, 2010 11:24 am ET)
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                        Let's accept it as an answer raddave. Now let's test your objectivity dave:

                        http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/14/citizen.children/index.html

                        http://www.americanfraternity.org/english/index-3.html

                        http://www.urban.org/uploadedpdf/412020_FacingOurFuture_final.pdf

                        Again, please explain.
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                        • Author by skycatcher (August 04, 2010 11:26 am ET)
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                          My apologies for the lack of hyperlinks.

                          Your text to link here...

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                          • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:34 am ET)
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                            Julie Quiroz, a 14-year-old U.S. citizen, has been separated from her mother for nearly two years. Her mom was deported to Mexico for being in the United States illegally.

                            Which means her mom was here for 12 years too long.

                            And?
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                            • Author by skycatcher (August 04, 2010 11:37 am ET)
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                              And, sir, please, as I must be a simpleton, reconcile these two posts for me.

                              I can answer that. When was last time the parents of an anchor baby were deported from this country?


                              Julie Quiroz, a 14-year-old U.S. citizen, has been separated from her mother for nearly two years. Her mom was deported to Mexico for being in the United States illegally.


                              Again, please explain.
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                            • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2010 11:39 am ET)
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                              You have no empathy.
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                              • Author by skycatcher (August 04, 2010 11:46 am ET)
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                                [Or apparent ability to engage in reasoned thought.]
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                              • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:49 am ET)
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                                For criminals, no I don't.
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                                • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:54 am ET)
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                                  People who are here illegally aren't criminals. They are breaking a civil law, not a criminal law.
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                                  • Author by skycatcher (August 04, 2010 12:01 pm ET)
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                                    I believe that's somewhat true raddave. Illegal entry into the U.S. is a criminal offense; however, remaining in the U.S. makes one subject to civil (rather than criminal) penalties.
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                                  • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 12:09 pm ET)
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                                    Its a Federal misdemeanor. If it weren't, they would simply pay a fine and be on their way.
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                                    • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 12:12 pm ET)
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                                      It is a medemeanor to enter the country illegally, it is a civil matter for people being here illegally. In both cases if a person is caught, they are simply processed and deported.
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                                      • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 12:20 pm ET)
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                                        Misdemeanor falls under criminal. You owe me an apology
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                                        • Author by Quicksilver M.S (August 04, 2010 1:02 pm ET)
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                                          dave:

                                          I know how to do this one... Bill O'Rielly taught me how!

                                          For the what I said " I owe you an apology .. I also owe you $5 !"

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                                        • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
                                             
                                          read what I said dumbasss, I said "People who are here illegally aren't criminals. They are breaking a civil law, not a criminal law."
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                                • Author by skycatcher (August 04, 2010 11:57 am ET)
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                                  Did it ever occur to you Dave that the perpetuation of this false (and incredibly offensive) anchor baby myth could be counterproductive?

                                  As a result of this obnoxious, slanderous and shameful propaganda, uninformed people may illegally enter the U.S. with the intention of having a child...all while operating under the mistaken impression that the child would "anchor" the parents here.

                                  Thus, given your apparent feelings on the subject, shouldn't you be trying to educate yourself and others about the hardships better known as reality?
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                                  • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 12:24 pm ET)
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                                    My feelings should be well known. I think its a BS law, the baby can stay, I can't do sh*t about it, and the parents should be deported yesterday.
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                                    • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 1:39 pm ET)
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                                      Its not a law dave, it is the Constitution. Why do you hate the Constitution?
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                                      • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 2:17 pm ET)
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                                        I don't hate the Constitution. I'm just looking for a really good reason from the left why they feel that people who ignore our border laws should be allowed to stay.
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                                        • Author by skycatcher (August 04, 2010 2:45 pm ET)
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                                          And I'm just looking for a really good reason from you why you feel that children born to people who ignore our border laws should be referred to as "anchor babies."
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                                        • Author by skycatcher (August 04, 2010 2:45 pm ET)
                                             
                                          And I'm just looking for a really good reason from you why you feel that children born to people who ignore our border laws should be referred to as "anchor babies."
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                                        • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 2:50 pm ET)
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                                          You said you thought it was a B.S. law that persons born here are citizens, that is why I asked you why you hate the Constitution. Because it is the Constitution that grants them the right or a citizen.
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                              • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 12:30 pm ET)
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                                I have empathy for those that deserve it. Hurricane victims, oil spill victims, etc. Lawbreakers...never.
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                              • Author by ilikeike (August 04, 2010 12:34 pm ET)
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                                says who. because i want reasonable controls on who and how many people enter my nation, that proves i have no empathy?so according to your logic i should be in favour of unlimited immigration to show my empathy. by this logic if you have a dollar in your pocket that you have not given to charity then you have no empathy for the poor
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                                • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 1:38 pm ET)
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                                  Define reasonable controls and it is NOT your nation, it is OUR nation.
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                            • Author by jjamele2880 (August 04, 2010 11:40 am ET)
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                              "why should we care? We are talking about Mexicans here, not human beings. They lost the right to be considered human when they dared break US law in an attempt to enjoy the blessings of living in a free, prosperous nation. My grandparents didnt break the law to come here, and that there was no law to break is besides the point. These people are sub-humans without the right to emotions or dignity because they broke the law, I can't believe anyone would even bat their eye at this story."

                              --Dave's intern, who is deeply ashamed but needs the work experience, please forgive him
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                              • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 11:54 am ET)
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                                Why should we care? Because we have borders, or we used to. And we are talking about everybody that's here illegally (but the hole in the boat is leaking from Mexico). But you guys seem to think that if they are here to make better lives for themselves that they should be exempt from US law? Please explain why you guys think the law should be ignored.
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                                • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 12:02 pm ET)
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                                  Maybe it is time to repeal the law and go back to the immigration policies that made this country great. We just want our country back.
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                    • Author by John Paradox (August 04, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
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                      Where the ^$%# did all these crickets come from?
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                  • Author by usp (August 04, 2010 12:30 pm ET)
                       
                    it's that part about my wife being german- and we coming here- she giving birth...and and and

                    and then what? esp if wife didn't want to give up her citizenship- what then? who's baby is it? german citizen? american citizen? can someone tell me about that?
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                    • Author by usp (August 04, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
                         
                      what about traveling pregnant women? seems old 'bible spice' was traveling around when her water broke...
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              • Author by eweston8542983 (August 04, 2010 11:08 am ET)
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                Point duly missed.
                Labels which denigrate do not support a real conversation about an issue.
                Usually they mean, I believe a variety of uncomplementary things about the group being labeled. It will take a large effort to even start to change my mind. Resetting to the label and all it means is always probable.
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          • Author by liberalXtian (August 04, 2010 10:43 am ET)
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            It applies to Hispanics so they can appeal to their racist base.
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          • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2010 11:02 am ET)
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            Because "the illegals" are coming to have children so they can stay.
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    • Author by New Frontier (August 04, 2010 8:54 am ET)
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      How about repealing the amendment and making it retroactive?

      What do you think, Doocy? Carlson??? Why so quiet all of a sudden?
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      • Author by txthinker (August 04, 2010 9:38 am ET)
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        How about repealing the amendment and making it retroactive?
        And making Michelle Malkin the first person deported....

        :-)
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    • Author by nerzog (August 04, 2010 8:58 am ET)
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      Glad to see that Retchin's legs are back.
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    • Author by magnolialover (August 04, 2010 9:01 am ET)
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      Mostly this was enacted because black people were considered not citizens of the United States during reconstruction.

      If they want to change this, then they need a Constitutional amendment.

      And, this just shows their racism, again, I think. Basically, they don't want "brown" people coming here and having babies who are then citizens.

      It's ridiculous, it's not going to be changed.
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      • Author by dogbreath (August 04, 2010 9:19 am ET)
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        Once again, the Republicans play their base like a fiddle, playing a song that only inspires fear and hatred.
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    • Author by GBU-15 (August 04, 2010 9:06 am ET)
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      I wonder what " Dragon Lady" Michelle Malkin thinks of all this!
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    • Author by Ema_Nymton (August 04, 2010 9:09 am ET)
         
      .

      Oh please, let the Republicant Party use the 14th Amendment as an issue. Please, please, please.

      USA is heading for elections in November. Can it really be true that the Democratic Party is going to lose to the yahoos of the Republicant Party? I concede I am very disappointed in the Democratic Party but not to the point of allowing the Republicant Party back into power.

      Is it possible the majority of voters will be willing to vote against their own personal self interests by voting for the Republicant Party? Really?

      Ema Nymton
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    • Author by worrierking (August 04, 2010 9:10 am ET)
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      The right seems to have taken it's eyes off the ball.

      First we need an amendment that bans abortion, then an amendment that bans flag burning, then an amendment to ban gay marriage and then an amendment to allow school prayer.

      Do any of these clowns understand the process of amending the Constitution?
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      • Author by davemccarthymusic9410 (August 04, 2010 9:43 am ET)
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        well, their stock in trade is the specious: blather that sounds good but is either impractical or nonsensical. It's nothing but simple and simplistic "solutions" to what are deep complex issues and problems. Playing to the mob.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (August 04, 2010 9:12 am ET)
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      FOX is trying to redefine what it means to be an American...in the past we WANTED to to be the beacon of hope for people all over the world. Now, we're just downright nasty and closed.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (August 04, 2010 9:13 am ET)
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        ...and, eventually, there will be a price to be paid for that change.
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      • Author by dogbreath (August 04, 2010 9:24 am ET)
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        It's so sad. Immigrants are ultimately what have made this nation great. They have added ideas and energy to our society, and have constantly made us stronger. Note to Republicans, other than the Native Americans, we are all flipping immigrants to this country. Obviously they all need to take a field trip to the base of the Statue of Liberty and read that plaque on the bottom.
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (August 04, 2010 9:43 am ET)
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          That's my point, exactly...now, Republicans seem resentful if any immigrant is successful in America.
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        • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 10:12 am ET)
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          Immigrants have made this nation great. Agreed. Illegal immigrants should be arrested and deported.
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          • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 10:52 am ET)
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            Or maybe we should go back to the immigration policies that were in effect before the 1920s and have no restrictions on immigration. I just want my country back.
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            • Author by jjamele2880 (August 04, 2010 11:04 am ET)
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              All these jackasses who bleat "my parents/grandparents came here under the rules" never point out that there basically WERE NO RULES when their ancestors came. Do they want to go back to the wide open door? Of course not.

              What was good for THEIR ancestors is NOT good for the new immigrants. Why not? Well, I think we all know the answer to that, don't we? Something along the lines of "I'm here, so the fair thing to do is to shut the door behind me."
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              • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 11:11 am ET)
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                Yeah, kind of reminds me of the movie "The Gangs of New York" where the "natives" were fighting with the "immigrants," not realizing that the "natives" came from immigrants as well. Our first immigration laws were enacted to bar Asians from immigrating to the country.
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                • Author by jjamele2880 (August 04, 2010 11:18 am ET)
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                  Everyone who comes after my family is an immigrant- that seems to be the Constitutional Philosophy these selfish prigs want to follow.

                  Here's how to get rid of anchor babies- open our borders to all immigration, like it was for most of our history (unless you were Chinese.) The sacred Founding Fathers these idiots like to bleat about didn't impose immigration restrictions, so I think it's safe to assume they didn't want them. So Fox is arguing against the Founding Fathers, as is the Republican Party. Why do they hate the founders?
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          • Author by New Frontier (August 04, 2010 11:09 am ET)
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            Illegal immigrants should be arrested and deported.
            How many boxcars will that take? I believe Germany has some old ones they no longer need.
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            • Author by usp (August 04, 2010 12:44 pm ET)
                 
              sting!
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            • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
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              At least enough to house 11-20m. We should be able to get them at cost, as long as they accept a promise from the WH.
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              • Author by New Frontier (August 04, 2010 6:49 pm ET)
                   
                Why not just gas 'em, eh? That'll save some big $$. Then you won't have to fret that we look like "a nation of pu**ies" and you won't need to get the penile implant after all.
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                • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 10:26 pm ET)
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                  Nice. Nope, I'd just go with applying the law in place...deportation. Now if the feds would just do their job instead of suing AZ, we can get on with this.
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                  • Author by New Frontier (August 05, 2010 9:35 am ET)
                       
                    Thankfully, we are not going to deport 11-20 million people. Too bad for you.
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    • Author by bailorgana (August 04, 2010 9:17 am ET)
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      Someone says that Michell Malkin is an Anchor bay, is that true?
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    • Author by GBU-15 (August 04, 2010 9:34 am ET)
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      Michelle Malkin was born in the United States when her parents (Filipino) were here on student visas.
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    • Author by CoolSlaw (August 04, 2010 9:42 am ET)
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      Openly promoting the introduction of a racial slur into the mainstream media.

      Denigrating the amendment to the constitution that ended the injustice of slavery, paid for with a bloody war that nearly destroyed America.

      All because they want to make you afraid of Mexicans.

      Stay classy Stave and Gretchen!
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    • Author by jjamele2880 (August 04, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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      Off-topic, apologies in advance, but looking over news stories covering last night's primaries, I notice that the media's disdain for raw numbers continues, and now even reporting percentages is starting to become rare. Not that long ago, stories would routinely give both raw vote totals and percentages, now it's more likely you'll see "this guy won, that guy lost, end of story" without numbers. The continuation of the dumbing down of America continues- and besides, I don't want the media deciding what a "landslide" or "easy victory" or "narrow win" means- give me the f-ing totals and go back to treating me like a damn grownup.

      Sorry again for the rant, but I think there is something almost fascistic in the way we have to hunt down raw vote totals and can't expect to get them from the MSM anymore- it's as if the vote totals are none of our business.
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    • Author by shaggles (August 04, 2010 11:20 am ET)
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      OK. Then let's call the 2nd amendment the "big gun = tiny penis" amendment.
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    • Author by marco21 (August 04, 2010 11:25 am ET)
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      Where's Malkin?
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      • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2010 11:53 am ET)
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        Trying to find a skin bleacher so that the Klan will accept her this time.
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    • Author by beverlyw1 (August 04, 2010 11:53 am ET)
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      The reason for doing this is the parents do come here and have their children so they can reap the benefits of the system. They are not questioned at all and handed food stamps, housing, medical, dental, free lunches at school, the list goes on and on. The people of whatever state they decide to park their backsides in is footing the bill for them and their children. I've see it and see it everyday, I know for a fact, they are eating better than my family is, the food stamps we supply them (over $1000 a month for a family of 5) with is more than I can afford to spend on my family a month (approximatly $500 a month for a family of 4), I'm eating hamburger and they're eating T-bones, but please remember that we are feeding them free breakfasts and lunches at school, even during the summer. Oh and we clothe their children on our dime too, they go down at the beginning of the school year and pick up underwear, socks, clothes, shoes, backpacks and school supples for nothing, zero, while I'm down at the store buying every single item. Let's not forget also that they are all working to, but you either have a fake social security number, or are being paid under the table, you or I can't do that or we go to jail, they just move. There are enough people we need to help that we should be taking care of our own. Come legal and if you need help come on, but sneak accross the border, then I pay for you and your children to eat, be educated, home, ect...that I have a problem with. A month or so ago, we had the school stats for the state of Texas come out, our school system is made up of 66% minorities.....still can't figure out if their are more of you, how are you the minority???? I believe most people who do not understand why the border states want help is because they are states no where near the border....with no understanding of the rate with which they are coming accross border. I watch the news and personally think they are now even showing a fraction of whats really going on down here at the border.
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      • Author by raddave43 (August 04, 2010 2:00 pm ET)
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        This is another "Welfare Queen" B.S. story. Most people who come here illegally, don't draw food stamps or any other public assistance. People on foodstamps don't get enough to feed a family of five for an entire month, let alone get enough to T-bone steaks. Most illegal immigrants don't have a fake SSN, many have an Individual Taxpayer ID number. "Minorities" is not a race or ethnic group, it includes ANYONE who isn't white.
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      • Author by Johaely (August 04, 2010 3:50 pm ET)
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        This better be some sarcastic or satirical because the gross ignorance from this post is indescribable.
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      • Author by New Frontier (August 04, 2010 7:07 pm ET)
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        They are not questioned at all and handed food stamps ... over $1000 a month for a family of 5
        This is from the State of Texas HHS Commission:

        Maximum Food Stamps, family of 5: $793

        SNAP benefits are given to a single person or family who meets the program’s requirements. HHSC sends a renewal application to a family getting SNAP before the end of each benefit period. Most benefit periods last for 6 months but some can be as short as 1 month or as long as 3 years.
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (August 04, 2010 9:02 pm ET)
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        What a disgusting, dishonest rant.

        You'd think that people who have to LIE to make a point might stop every now and then and think "wait a minute- maybe I'm the one with the serious problem here."

        This Beverly person is an incredibly hateful, ignorant person to be willing to spew such obvious falsehoods. I bet your parents hoped for more, Bev. Maybe you once did, too. But this is all you have in your life- posting bs on a blog in a pathetic attempt to build a rationale for your bigotry? Pathetic.

        I feel sorry for you, I really do. No one should go through life as irrationally angry as you are. I hope you get help.
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    • Author by usp (August 04, 2010 12:17 pm ET)
         
      will ms. malking comment on this?
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    • Author by Don Quixote (August 04, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
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      As an "anchor baby" myself, I find the term incredibly dehumanizing and offensive. It isn't factual at all in the sense that my own birth-based citizenship had no bearing on my parents, who worked their a**es off and sacrificed everything for their little "anchor babies". There was no "anchoring" in my family. It took my mom decades to become a citizen; they both learned English and are now citizens.

      If you call me that in person, better be prepared to join me in jail or the hospital. I can assure you that each of us will end up in one or the other, or both. Also be careful about who is in earshot if you use that term in public. If it's me, again, be prepared for all the social services you're going to need.
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      • Author by dave (August 04, 2010 2:55 pm ET)
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        If your parents are citizens, there is no problem. Hopefully, they were citizens before your birth. The ones I have a problem with are the ones who come over here and give birth to accept the freebies.
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        • Author by Don Quixote (August 04, 2010 3:03 pm ET)
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          My mom had "ambiguous" documentation status when she gave birth to me here. I can assure you no one in my family came here for the freebies, since none have ever been received. Of course, there are bad apples and exceptions, but that idea is largely propaganda.

          Not to brag, but this "anchor baby" has done well for himself, and I'll bet I've contributed more to this economy in taxes and charity donations than most "real Americans" make in a lifetime. That's just a fact. My extended family of over 200 is very similar, again with little to no social services ever requested, a very strong work ethic, etc. The only "problem" is the questionable documentation status of our ancestors.

          I find it so bizarre that this is even an issue. The very foundation of our national identity was the children of immigrant colonizers. It was the kids who fought against their own motherland colonizers for independence and formed the world's first real modern nation-states here and throughout the Americas. Our identity is all tied up with the idea of jus solis, law of ground, birthright citizenship. It's one of the few things that differentiates the Americas from the rest of the world. How can such a deeply engrained aspect of our very identity be in question centuries later still? Boggles the mind!
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        • Author by New Frontier (August 04, 2010 7:08 pm ET)
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          The ones I have a problem with are the ones who come over here and give birth to accept the freebies.
          That's really too bad.
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