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Palin supports "religious freedom" if it's "down the road"

August 04, 2010 9:59 pm ET

From the August 4 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

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    • Author by usp (August 04, 2010 10:02 pm ET)
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      it makes me pretty sad that my dad is probably watching this.
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      • Author by pinkspider (August 05, 2010 12:43 am ET)
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        me too usp. If you go into my dad or any of his siblings homes any time of the day their televisions are all blasting fox news.......sigh
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    • Author by buzzoven (August 04, 2010 10:07 pm ET)
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      Why do they keep calling her governor? Surely you have to complete at least one term in the position to have the privilege of the permanent title...
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (August 04, 2010 10:13 pm ET)
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      So, Sarah, what would be an appropriate distance from Ground Zero to build a mosque? Is two blocks too close? Six blocks? Ten blocks? And who decides...you?

      What about an airplane ticket office? Should there not be one anywhere near Ground Zero? What about a fire station...too painful a reminder?

      Should all Muslims and Middle Eastern people be banned from the area around Ground Zero? No cabbies? No vendors?

      How far do you go with this...or do you try to move on?
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      • Author by Bronwyn (August 05, 2010 4:34 am ET)
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        Great post Irony.

        What about the Muslim victims of 9/11 or do they not count?
        What about Muslim babies....can they be delivered at a hospital near Ground Zero?
        Why the hell is Hannity still calling you Governor?
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    • Author by dmhack (August 04, 2010 10:16 pm ET)
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      How far down the road would you like to see them go, Quitter?

      A couple of blocks good enough not to offend you? Probably not.

      Can they even stay in Manhattan? If you had your way, probably not.

      With that beehive and those conservative clothes you starting to look an awful lot like those sweet Southern women in the 60s who didn't mind the colored folks... just so long as they stayed--down the road--in their own part of town.
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      • Author by usp (August 04, 2010 10:17 pm ET)
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        never let it go- as long as it advances your cause.
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      • Author by Unionblue (August 04, 2010 10:58 pm ET)
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        Just like I don't mind the idea of Ms Palin being in any public office...just down the road...far down....maybe on Mars...well just a little farther.
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    • Author by David2012 (August 04, 2010 10:22 pm ET)
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      The only question worth asking is why this woman is constantly on the air on Fox.
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      • Author by epkklk851 (August 04, 2010 10:25 pm ET)
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        They paid for her time. Does that make Simple Sarah a fallen woman?
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      • Author by Far Left but Always Right (August 05, 2010 12:08 am ET)
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        Palin 2012 = 2nd term for Obama

        oh, and ms half term governor palin, the proposed community center and mosque is "down the road".
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    • Author by epkklk851 (August 04, 2010 10:24 pm ET)
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      The Teabagger example of Freedom. Yep, they're all for Freedom as long as people want the same things that they want! But, it you happen to be different, well, then, they don't want you to be free, because it threatens them. There are three areas where this contradiction is painfully ridiculous: Gay marriage (Two other people being married threatens my marriage because they are the same gender?) Reproductive rigths, (You are free to have that baby whether you wanted it or not, whether it is healthy or not, whether you consented to the sex, or not and whether it is against your religion or not.) And lastly, freedom of religion. (You are perfectly free to be a Fundamentalist Christian, and if you aren't, she is perfectly free to force her religious beliefs down your throat.) Muslims from several countries, including this one died that day. Muslims have been wounded and killed fighting in the war on terror, all the while having their faith and patriotism doubted by some of the people around them, many of whom can't be bothered to serve themselves. What do you have to say about that, Simple Sarah.
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    • Author by donwelty (August 04, 2010 10:24 pm ET)
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      Palin: "We're all about religious freedom, but . . ."

      Finish the sentece with what is in your heart:

      "We're all about religious freedom, but that only refers to my religious freedom."
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    • Author by michaelr (August 04, 2010 10:30 pm ET)
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      I'm sorry, I don't buy the argument that building an Islamic cultural center is causing more heartache. So, some close minded people that may have been personally affected by 9/11 are upset about a Mosque. Are conservatives suggesting we embrace that close minded point of view?

      I was at the World Trade Center on 9/11. I saw some horrific stuff. If you want peace in the world, protesting this cultural center is not the route to it. Aren't we supposed to be better?
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    • Author by watershed (August 04, 2010 10:37 pm ET)
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      These hateful dumb bastards don't even realize there is ALREADY A MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO.

      Masjid means mosque.
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    • Author by MRF (August 04, 2010 10:40 pm ET)
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      Does that mean that her wacky church in Wasilla has to be far away from the meth labs?
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    • Author by Unionblue (August 04, 2010 10:55 pm ET)
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      and there also... Her handlers finally beat her catch phrase out of her
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    • Author by soze169880 (August 04, 2010 11:06 pm ET)
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      "The Bill of Rights? Not in my backyard!"
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      • Author by soze169880 (August 04, 2010 11:06 pm ET)
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        (And by "my backyard" I mean "a region of the country she openly despises and derides as 'not real America'.")
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        • Author by Conchobhar (August 04, 2010 11:25 pm ET)
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          AS the man said, "Freedom of speech is all well and good, but for God's sake, don't do it in public!"
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 05, 2010 12:24 am ET)
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            Reminds me of a moment I had about 25 years ago with a fellow student at school, a cat who had let his conservative views be known to me.

            I was wearing a t-shirt, bought with a donation to a favorite local art gallery. The shirt had an American flag circled in barbed wire, with the words " Censorship is Un-American".

            The guy asked me what it meant, and we had a brief discussion about freedom of speech, and I asked him if he agreed with the sentiments. I can hear it like it was yesterday;

            " Wellll... that depends what you wanna censor".
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 05, 2010 12:27 am ET)
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              ps: This might sound like a ridiculous question, but does it seem like Palin is getting even stupider than she was when they first trotted her out a couple years ago ? Is that possible ?

              I watched the clip , and I got the same feeling I get when I watch one of those TV court shows, as some drug-addled video game addict tries to recap his eviction from a year earlier. Ummm..... uhhhh... I think... duhhh...
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              • Author by soze169880 (August 05, 2010 12:44 am ET)
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                I wonder if it's finding a home where she will never, ever be viewed as less than perfect, no matter what she says or does.
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              • Author by nerzog (August 05, 2010 8:52 am ET)
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                I think she's becoming a caricature of herself... pandering to her drooling sycophants so she can suck more money out of their pockets.
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              • Author by barscotch9441 (August 07, 2010 10:29 am ET)
                   
                Stupid is as stupid does? Even GWB's "Tribal Sovreignty" embarrassment wasn't this full of Um's and Err's. However, this is 21st century American politics, so maybe we should call it "stupid is as stupid is perceived by the fear-poisoned right-wing base." I, too, have relatives who support the teagaggers and criticize Obama for Bush's mistakes. They are fed the lies that make them feel most comforted in the face of what scares them.

                People who think they are in danger will do desparate things not typical of themselves. The right wing - especially media people like Breitbart, Hannity, Beck, Cunningham, and Limbaugh and politicians like Gingrich, Bennett, Frist, Delay, Rove, Cheney, Palin, you name it - have been quite successful at making their base believe that there is an actual mortal danger posed by ordinary Muslims, gay people, reproductive rights, and Hispanic immigrants. Now, thanks to Beck, anyone who votes for a democrat is lumped in there too.

                The problem is not as simple as how stupid she is: it's also in how many people with guns readily believe her. If enough of them do, it's a problem.
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        • Author by spacemoth (August 04, 2010 11:28 pm ET)
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          touche!
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    • Author by sodium (August 05, 2010 12:08 am ET)
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      It IS "down the road", you stupid little twerp!!


      Sheesh!
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      • Author by tprice68468 (August 05, 2010 2:38 am ET)
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        This was painful got to 1min 30 before I had to rip the headphones off - just another Palin example of sayin alot but really saying nothing....
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    • Author by MatthewTexas (August 05, 2010 12:19 am ET)
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      OMG i get tired of hearing about 9/11
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    • Author by hashadenough (August 05, 2010 1:43 am ET)
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      You know, you'd think after all this time at Fox News, Palin'd have gotten at least a little familiar with Manhattan real estate; namely that there's nowhere left to put new stuff that you wanna build. So, telling a developer to just move it "down the road" isn't really realistic advice, unfortunately. Unless Palin's thinking about suggesting an East River mosque-boat, which, come to think of it, could be a nifty twist on things...

      Also, let's not forget to note that Mayor Bloomberg and the vast majority of New Yorkers don't really seem to care about the mosque and haven't really asked for the advice of an Alaskan. Folks in New York have been doing the whole melting pot thing for a while now and they're gettin' pretty good at it. When they need help dealing with Russia or grizzlies, I'm sure the first call will to Palin, though.
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    • Author by notoyucca (August 05, 2010 4:08 am ET)
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      we will never forget 9-11

      unless of course, it is for funding the responders health care!

      i hope this dimwit runs in 2012 and i'm talking about Hannity
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    • Author by Nasty Liberal (August 05, 2010 7:06 am ET)
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      "It's tough to comprehend" anything beyond "marking territory", isn't it Queen Sarah Immiscible?
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    • Author by nerzog (August 05, 2010 8:58 am ET)
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      Since when have Constitutional Rights been determined by whose feelings are hurt, or who is offended?

      I'm offended by Sarah Palin... does that mean I can stop the ignorant twit from popping up on TV every ten minutes? Of course not.

      Freedom of Religion is vital to our concept of Liberty in this country. Troglodytes like Sarah Palin whine loudly and often about their own Religious Liberties, yet see no problem with denying that same freedom to Muslims.

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    • Author by jcovales (August 05, 2010 9:09 am ET)
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      This is a wonderful example of the power of the right-wing propaganda machine. We MUST remember and remind people that the point of locating this Islamic Cultural Center (it is not, primarily, a mosque) was that the Imam intended it as a symbol of solidarity with between the Muslim world and non-Muslims; it was intended as a statement of rejection of the world-view of the hijackers. It was intended as an act of peacemaking and healing. But whether from cynicism or because these people truly believe everyone is as hate-full as they, the right wing propaganda machine has distorted this act of peacemaking into their own image. How sad for us all.
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      • Author by nerzog (August 05, 2010 9:54 am ET)
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        How sad, indeed. These same people were jumping up and down seven years ago, screaming, "Where are the moderate Muslims".

        Okay, here they are; they'd like to build a community center in New York. What do the Troglodytes do? Spit in their faces.
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    • Author by tbone (August 05, 2010 10:44 am ET)
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      "Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."

      President George W. Bush, November 13, 2002

      Apparently Sarah and Sean didn't get the memo.
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    • Author by Bill Wilson (August 05, 2010 10:58 am ET)
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      How's this for an analogy:

      If the Catholic Church wanted to build a new church in the same neighborhood as a person who was molested by a priest, would that be an outrage? No. Plain and simple.

      And a mosque/community center going up NEAR (not AT... I work a block away) Ground Zero isn't the same as the El Quada Worldwide Headquarters. Just like a Catholic church isn't the same thing as the NAMBLA World Headquaters.
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    • Author by Kevin.P.Edwards (August 05, 2010 11:25 am ET)
         
      Hey, you know who really won't forget 9/11? The neighborhood around 9/11 - CB1. You know who was there when it happened from the very begining? CB1. You know who approved the plans for the community center? CB1.

      If any of the suits against it that have been filed (in some parrallel crappy-verse) succeed, do you know what that could be logically exprapolated to? The loss of private property (OK - a little conspiracy theory, but hear me out). So, a group of people think it this mosque shouldn't be built there because it insults them with 9/11. Could it be out of the question for another group to say an abortion clinic couldn't be built because it was being done as a way to insult them? What's to prevent that being done by an individual against say an abstinance only education center because it insults them? Then Steave in NYC decides Joe's putting the confederate flag up at his house in Selma is just insulting, and can't he just move to someplace where it wouldn't be stabbing at the heart of civil rights people?

      Admittedly a stretch, but not something I couldn't see a lawyer arguing.
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      • Author by tman418 (August 07, 2010 4:24 pm ET)
           
        I think it's a perfectly legitimate point. It could lead to other cases like you described.

        I haven't seen any legitimate argument against this Islamic center. Whether they be local New Yorkers or families/friends of the victims of 9/11, first responders, are just wrong.
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    • Author by tman418 (August 07, 2010 4:21 pm ET)
         
      Hey MMFA, great catch.

      You may want to change the headline a little bit though. Perhaps "Palin supports the mosque if its 'down the road.'" The headline made me believe she was talking about religious freedom down the road, rather than the mosque (in actuallity the Islamic community center).
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