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Dr. Laura Schlessinger's n-word rant, Part I

August 12, 2010 5:29 pm ET

From the August 10 edition of Dr. Laura Schlessinger's Talk Radio Network show:

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Read Dr. Laura's apology here:

These are my opening comments from my radio program today:

I talk every day about doing the right thing.  And yesterday, I did the wrong thing. 

I didn't intend to hurt people, but I did.  And that makes it the wrong thing to have done.

I was attempting to make a philosophical point, and I articulated the "n" word all the way out - more than one time.  And that was wrong.  I'll say it again - that was wrong.

I ended up, I'm sure, with many of you losing the point I was trying to make, because you were shocked by the fact that I said the word.  I, myself, realized I had made a horrible mistake, and was so upset I could not finish the show.  I pulled myself off the air at the end of the hour.  I had to finish the hour, because 20 minutes of dead air doesn't work.  I am very sorry.  And it just won't happen again.

I received some letters, and what touched me is that, even though many of you were upset, you still showed friendship for all the years we've been together on the air, and for that, trust me, I am very grateful.  Here's an example:

I'd like to thank this woman for sending me this letter.  I was so very touched, and truthfully, it helped me make it through the night.  So I'm going to read this letter:

Dear Dr. Laura:

I have been a listener for at least 20 years.  I have bought and read several of your books.  I have always held you in high regard, and have encouraged others to listen to you as well.  I have to say, after today's call with the African-American woman with the Caucasian husband who called seeking how to handle "racist" comments, I am a bit dismayed.  I believe that African-Americans using the n-word is disdainful, as well as Caucasians or any other race for that matter.  I agree that the argument some African-Americans use that it is ok for them to use it and not others, is ridiculous.  But, I have to say, when I heard you saying the word repeatedly, it struck a negative chord with me.

I don't believe you are a racist, and I don't believe, as an African-American woman, that I am hypersensitive.  I have to say after the call, I found it difficult to continue to listen to the rest of the show.  I have not made the decision to stop listening to your show, but I felt compelled to respond because I found it offensive.

Sincerely {and she gives her name}

One last note -
The caller in question (her name is Jade), called for help from me, and didn't get it, because we got embroiled in the "n" word, and I'm really sorry about that, because I'm here for only one reason and that's to be helpful, so I hope Jade or somebody who knows her is listening, and hope she will call me back and I will try my best to be helpful, which is what she wanted from me in the first place and what she did not get.

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    • Author by raine315 (August 12, 2010 5:54 pm ET)
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      Wow!

      Sounds like a female Rush
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      • Author by Conchobhar (August 12, 2010 5:57 pm ET)
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        I had no idea she was still around. Who pulled the stake out of her heart?
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        • Author by worrierking (August 12, 2010 6:10 pm ET)
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          What many don't seem to understand is that to kill the undead, a stake through the heart helps, but it must be used in combination with beheading.

          At least according to our ancestral land's famous expert, Mr Stoker.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 12, 2010 9:18 pm ET)
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            It's known as "being Stoked",a Hibernian word that made its way to California.
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            • Author by mary59 (August 13, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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              I learn so much from reading these threads. I wish I was as smokin' as y'all.

              I really think Dr. Laura isn't a vampire. She does seem attracted to the bug eating lunatic in the asylum, however.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 12, 2010 9:16 pm ET)
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        Sounds like a female Rush (Raine315)


        Dr Laura:The caller in question (her name is Jade), called for help from me, and didn't get it, because we got embroiled in the "n" word


        She's pretty close to doing the Rush "blame somebody else" apology. The caller was asking for help in dealing with some racially rude people, and suddenly, somebody was blurting out the N-Word, interrupting, and telling the offended party that it was her fault for marrying out of her race without the required sense of humor needed to deal with people as stupid as Dr. laura..

        Stunningly clueless.
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      • Author by AC_Mem (August 12, 2010 9:45 pm ET)
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        It's like conservative tourettes, isn't it.
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      • Author by Porkeater (August 12, 2010 11:40 pm ET)
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        Sounds like a female Rush

        Well, Rush doesn't have the cojones to say that. It's either a saving stupidity, or an ignorance of her own folly.
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 12, 2010 5:57 pm ET)
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      Dr. Laura means well, but she doesn't know enough to discuss the ways some African Americans use the word n!99er. Some use it in a derogatory manner, others to show a close friendship exists between 2 or more people (camaraderie,) and others use it unwittingly as a figure of speech, sort of a reflex.

      I'm African American, but I don't use the term because its use was banned by my parents when my siblings and I were growing up.

      I do agree with her that race and terms associated with race need to be discussed because I think it's important that people in our society understand that although some things are acceptable among certain members of a group, that is not the case with all members.
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      • Author by watershed (August 12, 2010 6:41 pm ET)
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        With all due respect- she doesn't think that terms like the N-word should be discussed for that reason.

        Is the big problem that blacks can use a word and whites can't, like Dr. Laura thinks, or is the problem that whites like Schlessinger seem to think that racism is people who "demonize whites as hating blacks"? And oh, that racism is over anyway now that Obama is President? And who so very casually uses the N-word in making that ridiculous point?
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 12, 2010 8:39 pm ET)
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          I don't think that racism is people who demonize whites as hating blacks. Personally, I don't think that racism from anyone should be excused. Right is right and wrong is wrong in my eyes, and I have siblings who think the same way. I will not automatically back up an African American who has said/done something racist. I guess one's position is related to whether one has principles that apply to all or principles that apply only to some.

          No, racism is not over since President Obama became president. Racism has existed in one way or another for centuries in countries around the world. I think Rwanda was an example of not only genocide, but racism of one group of Africans toward another. As for racism in America, I've experienced it in one way or another all of my life since I was born during our nation's period of segregation. I think where many people make a mistake is in accepting racial stereotypes and not getting to know people of different races.I have always gotten along with the whites I have gone to school and worked with, and I think the reason for this is the way my parents raised us. They chose not to focus on making us hate white people but on educating ourselves. They rightly thought that education was a vehicle to upward mobility. Although my parents are no longer here, I realize just how fortunate I was to have parents that didn't teach their kids to hate. I raised my daughter the same way, and it just so happened that the guy she has been dating for almost 4 years and plans to marry works in IT and is white. My daughter never would have had the chance to choose the guy she thinks is best for her had I chosen to teach her to hate. I taught her to educate herself and to believe in herself. She's a college graduate and has a good job, no children.

          I'm a retired high school teacher as of 2009, and I heard the word n!99er used in all of the ways that I described in my first post. Even some of the white students and African American students used the term to refer to each other. I didn't like any of them using it, but I am open-minded enough to let them work out the dynamics of their own relationships. The younger members of our society have much more intimate relationships with each other in that they've known each other since Pre-K, they visit each other's homes, attend parties together, and some of them are members of the same church. These are those who so casually use the word n!99er in making what you refer to as "that ridiculous point."
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          • Author by watershed (August 12, 2010 9:07 pm ET)
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            I think we have a miscommunication. I am saying that, however valid your point about words that aren't acceptable across an entire race of people, that is NOT Dr Laura's point. I agree that it is wrong to think that just because one is black, that person automatically will say the N-word. I also agree that it does complicate things considerably when discussing race. Like perhaps, now. :)

            HER point, and I still say its ridiculous, is that is UNFAIR or perhaps even RACIST that, in her view, blacks get to use the n-word and whites don't. She thinks its a huge issue that should be addressed ahead of actual, physical racism, WHICH SHE THEN DEMONSTRATED, by describing racism as something that only exists in the form of demonizing whites as hating blacks. Not to mention "don't NAACP me," etc etc. I am saying she has her issues all amuck.

            She's Hannity. She's Limbaugh. Racism only exists against whites. Which is, well, racist!

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    • Author by Boxer1979 (August 12, 2010 6:29 pm ET)
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      I thought she retired after making money her tape years ago. Did she?? *sarcasm*
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    • Author by GrandpaMark (August 12, 2010 7:02 pm ET)
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      Coming from a huge family of southern republican racists, I feel compelled to expound for those not blessed as I have been to experience these pigheaded people personally. A telling part of this exchange is it's length; the amount of time a racist will holler about the n word says a lot about how concerned they are with it. While you or I may drive down the road considering dinner options or the liberal plot to run a more nazi society, she and other racists are obsessing over why THEY can't say "n!gger" or "j!gaboo" like they truly want to. It bothers Dr. Loadah and other racists that blacks often use "n!gger" collegially, she brings it up in the clip. She and my mom want to yell these terms with impunity at folks walking down the road; they want to be able to yell"Shut up, j!gaboo!" with no repercussions,like the good old days.
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      • Author by jpeagle21 (August 12, 2010 7:17 pm ET)
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        I think you should apologize. You just offended the african american race by writing those two words in print (n-word and j-word).
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 12, 2010 8:46 pm ET)
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          I'm African American, and I am not offended because GrandpaMark was sharing his experiences and was in no way disparaging AAs. IMHO, these are the kinds of discussions on race we need to be having. I'm cool with GrandpaMark sharing. I appreciate it because very few people have the courage to tell the truth, and he did. I have a particular aversion to liars, and I believe what he stated in his post. I believe it because I've lived in a very, very red state all of my life, and these kinds of things happen more frequently than most Americans think. .
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (August 12, 2010 8:50 pm ET)
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          Shouldn't you be voting under multiple identities over at digg right now?
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        • Author by smarshall1432997 (August 12, 2010 8:56 pm ET)
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          Oh please, jpeagle21... GrandpaMark comments were spot on and the "only" people that would be offended are those like Dr. Laura, Rush, FoxNews Hosts, Republicans, etc. Oh wait, are you beginning to raise your voice? Uh,oh seems like you fit the description that GrandpaMark just described - LOL. Great read GrandpaMark!!!
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 12, 2010 9:19 pm ET)
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            That has to be one of the lamest attempts at a "zinger" I've ever seen (jpeagle's comment, not yours)
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            • Author by txthinker (August 13, 2010 5:09 pm ET)
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              Makes sense - after all, jpeagle21 seems to be one of our lamest trolls.....
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      • Author by mjh (August 12, 2010 7:23 pm ET)
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        " . . . she and other racists are obsessing over why THEY can't say "n!gger" or "j!gaboo" like they truly want to. It bothers Dr. Loadah and other racists that blacks often use "n!gger" collegially, she brings it up in the clip. She and my mom want to yell these terms with impunity at folks walking down the road; they want to be able to yell"Shut up, j!gaboo!" with no repercussions,like the good old days."


        And, what Dr. Loadof and other racists need to realize is this:

        They should just GO. RIGHT. AHEAD. AND. DO. SO.

        Nobody's stopping them.

        Just be prepared for the consequences afterwards . . .


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        • Author by phredicles (August 12, 2010 7:31 pm ET)
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          In the right-wing mind, consequences, including/especially criticism, = censorship.
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        • Author by phredicles (August 12, 2010 7:32 pm ET)
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          In the right-wing mind, consequences, including/especially criticism, = censorship.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 12, 2010 9:12 pm ET)
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        I've got about the same take on it as you, Grandpa Mark, there's always an underlying tone of jealousy when you hear people complaining that some people get to use the N-word and they don't.

        While I don't think the use of the word is the main problem with Dr Laura's rant, it did seem to roll off her tongue pretty smoothly.
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      • Author by John Paradox (August 13, 2010 3:01 am ET)
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        I still remember former (impeached) Governor Evan Meacham using the term "pickaninny" to refer to young blacks.
        AZ
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    • Author by YouTubeJEFF9K (August 12, 2010 7:29 pm ET)
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      Anyone who calls Dr. Laura deserves the bad advice she gets.
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      • Author by YouTubeJEFF9K (August 12, 2010 10:12 pm ET)
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        To whom it may concern: Dr. Laura is a Conservative!
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        • Author by mescal (August 13, 2010 2:28 am ET)
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          I prefer the term right wing authoritarian hate monger.
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        • Author by bintx (August 13, 2010 8:45 am ET)
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          She also has no real qualifications as a marriage and family counselor. Her educational background is physiology, not psychology. She presents herself as an expert in marriage and family counseling, but she's not. It's kind of like James Dobson presenting himself as a preacher . . . he's a child psychologist. In fact, back in the day when he was focusing on child psychology, he was a much better person.
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    • Author by Seriously? (August 12, 2010 7:47 pm ET)
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      I just can't understand the debate about this. Every marginalized group (from the Irish to South Asians to Mexicans) co-opts derogatory words for use amongst themselves. It isn't just a black thing, its the way the damn world works. You don't have to agree with it but thems the rules.

      On a related note, as a black person, I care more about context than the use of the word itself. For me, the problem with white people using the n-word is not necessarily the fact that they use the word, its that chances are that it will be used in a derogatory fashion (unlike the rap lyrics some want to use as justification).

      Think about it this way; Do you think Eminem would get into trouble for using the n-word? I doubt it.
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      • Author by phredicles (August 12, 2010 7:57 pm ET)
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        You don't have to agree with it but thems the rules.


        Yeah, Mad Magazine (from which I learned so much about American culture) observed this as long ago as the early '70s: If I make a joke about my ethnic group, I'm being funny. But if someone outside my ethnic group makes the same joke, they're being a lousy bigot.

        But, as others have observed, a lot of white right-ringers sure seem to want to use that word really, really badly.
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        • Author by usp (August 14, 2010 10:22 pm ET)
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          i could make all the jokes about the irish in 'crown hill' nashua--

          but if a frenchman? or a jew were to make the same joke? someone was going to get hit. and it wasn't going to me.
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      • Author by smarshall1432997 (August 12, 2010 9:30 pm ET)
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        Great points, and Eminem CAN use the N-word because alot of AA's see him as an AA too. Right-wingers confuse the use of the n-word as a freedom of speech issue but it's NOT. ANYONE can say the n-word but NOT everyone mean the n-word in the same way....Dr. Laura, LOL.

        Someone like Eminen uses the n-word and AA's will see "NO" malice or hatred 'cause Eminen said he is the n-word too and proud of it, LOL. Someone like Rush, Dr. Laura, O'Reilly, Beck, Scarborough, Hasselbeck, Hannity, Palin, McCain, Republicans, Tea Party, David Duke, Imus, and FoxNews' Hosts would be seen by AA's as using the n-word out of malice and hate "against" AA's 'cause these people consider themselves much, much more "Superior" than ALL n-words (AA's). Hope this helps, LOL.
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    • Author by Jen7 (August 13, 2010 12:59 am ET)
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      I heard this Tuesday and thought it would be on here that day. She was way out of line. I actually yelled at the caller to hang up on her. lol She sure did sound like a right winger...huh?
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    • Author by hitchikerforajax (August 13, 2010 5:27 am ET)
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      Dr. Laura, about hypersensitivity. You are a downright ignorant white bit@#. I hope you took that as a joke.
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    • Author by manofmystique (August 13, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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      "The caller in question (her name is Jade), called for help from me, and didn't get it, because we got embroiled in the "n" word, and I'm really sorry about that, because I'm here for only one reason and that's to be helpful, so I hope Jade or somebody who knows her is listening, and hope she will call me back and I will try my best to be helpful, which is what she wanted from me in the first place and what she did not get" A quote from "Dr". Schlessinger.
      Oh you were "helpful" alright; you told the woman she was "hypersensitive" and suggested "she shouldn't marry outside of her race".
      My question to you Dr Schlessinger, would you have been that insensitive and combative to a white caller with the same concerns? Which is what is required of a Doctor.
      Or would you have conducted yourself with professionalism and compassion?
      You gave absolutely no regard to this woman and her concern. You are only a "doctor" when it is convenient, otherwise you are no different than the white people who come to you for advice and solutions.
      You are wrong in so many ways and you are in need of education and knowledge. REAL education and knowledge, not the kind of education you uses to pacify confused people.
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    • Author by onementalgiant (August 13, 2010 11:08 am ET)
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      Are you people serious? I have never spent one second of time pondering over why some can use the "N" word while others can't. You MMFA regulars have way too much time on your hands.

      However, this does raise the question of why is it liberals always seem to have race on their minds? The color of one's skin is not that important. The content of one's character is much more important. (10 points to anyone who can tell me who said this!)
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      • Author by Quicksilver M.S (August 13, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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        Q.."The content of one's character is much more important."

        A..Glenn Beck ?

        do I win ?
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      • Author by RKAllen (August 13, 2010 1:04 pm ET)
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        The color of one's skin is not that important. The content of one's character is much more important. (10 points to anyone who can tell me who said this!)
        According to Google... you are the only one who has ever said that in the whole of the internet. Congratulations!

        Are you refering to Martin Luther King, when he said...

        I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
        If you are going to offer points for getting a correct answer... then shouldn't you at least get the question right?
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        • Author by onementalgiant (August 13, 2010 1:57 pm ET)
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          Leave it to a trolling lefty to pick out minutia. I knew my MLK "quote" was paraphrasing and figured everyone would know this. I should have known better on this message board. Here one must be exacting - except of course if one is a liberal. Then a free pass is given for everything - including massive editing of anything a conservative says or does.
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          • Author by bintx (August 13, 2010 2:59 pm ET)
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            Stating fact makes one a "trolling lefty"? Seriously?

            Your MLK "quote" was not only paraphrased, it was completely taken out of context. Nice try, faux "conservative."
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          • Author by mescal (August 14, 2010 1:16 am ET)
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            You poor freakin' dear!
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      • Author by bintx (August 13, 2010 2:58 pm ET)
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        I could get the 10 points . . . but I'd be proving your statement to be incorrect.

        BTW, it is the content of Laura's character which is being discussed. Not much there. She's also a racist as, apparently, are you.

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    • Author by manofmystique (August 13, 2010 11:18 am ET)
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      You see how this so-called Doctor automatically over-looked the actions of the black woman's white husband and focused on the black woman herself?
      Husbands are required to protect their wife's honor. He should have told his family and friends to respect his wife, but he didn't do anything, so this woman has a right to be resentful of her husband. But this is of no concern to this so-called Doctor.
      She than wanted to convinced this black caller to believe she has no right to be offended, even though she told the "Doctor" how she felt.
      White people have a problem with black people holding anything against them, no matter what whites do to us to us. Remember the Sharoal (forgive the spelling) "scandal" and what she said about not helping a white farmer? This is what whites had a problem with.
      Although she had a compelling reason to be vindictive against white people (her father was killed by a white man who escaped justice), no white commentator wanted to explore the possibility that this black woman was within her right to be bitter toward those who benefited from an unjust society, at the expense of her own people.
      Black public officials and black people in general are not supposed to be angry when whites do wrong against us. We are supposed to suck it up and let it go.
      But that is not how white society behaves when blacks victimize white people. No, they are vengeful and they will make an example of you. Not only that, they NEVER forget ie O J Simpson.
      This Doctor is no different than other infidels like Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Racist, Republicans and conservatives who constantly spew stupidity and hate over the airwaves.
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      • Author by onementalgiant (August 13, 2010 2:14 pm ET)
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        My my. Some would say your post is racist. Don't you know profiling people into groups is considered racist? Let's see how many "thumbs up" you get on your post. It will be very telling of this message board



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        • Author by bintx (August 13, 2010 3:01 pm ET)
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          Why are you here if you have such a problem with this "message board"? You come over here from free republic and pretend to be a "conservative" here as you are there. You believe that anyone who disagrees with you on anything is a "liberal." Another faux conservative . . . an RWA, a groupie.

          The post wasn't racist, it was an honest opinion stated by someone who has experienced that of which he wrote.
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          • Author by onementalgiant (August 13, 2010 5:40 pm ET)
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            Well well. Here is bintx accusing little ole me of being racist while giving mono a pass on the following blatant bigoted comments:

            "White people have a problem with black people holding anything against them, no matter what whites do to us to us. Remember the Sharoal (forgive the spelling) "scandal" and what she said about not helping a white farmer? This is what whites had a problem with. Although she had a compelling reason to be vindictive against white people (her father was killed by a white man who escaped justice), no white commentator wanted to explore the possibility that this black woman was within her right to be bitter toward those who benefited from an unjust society, at the expense of her own people. But that is not how white society behaves when blacks victimize white people. No, they are vengeful and they will make an example of you. Not only that, they NEVER forget ie O J Simpson."

            Replace the words "white" with "black" and vice versa in the above and then say "the post wasn't racist". I swear you left-wingers would sell your souls in order to support each other. I mean good grief! Have you no morality and integrity?

            BTW, I request you no longer refer to yourself as a "conservative" bintx. You are far from having the values needed to be considered a conservative - while continuing to display all of the goofy makings of a left wing liberal.

            2BTW, I have disliked Dr. Laura for years. She's as inconsistent and goofy as you.
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            • Author by mary59 (August 13, 2010 6:15 pm ET)
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              So are you really a mental midget?
              [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/alice02th.gif]
              I swear you you you ______ will never_______________ and you always _____________________
              so there.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (August 13, 2010 6:32 pm ET)
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              You have your wires crossed. The fact of the matter is Shirley Sherrod was black and not white and she didn't lynch a white person. You can change the names but that would make it not only historically not true but ridiculous,GOOFY in a word. It wasn't blACKS OPPRESSING and lynching whites it was the other way around. It was not blacks that established laws legitimizing inequality and segregation against whites. What history are you talking about? No I'am not branding all whites as racist,far from it, but as a society whites have benefited from racism via jobs,status,and schooling not the other way around. You don't even make sense in your turn it around. WTF! Talking about GOOFY look in the mirror.
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              • Author by onementalgiant (August 13, 2010 7:18 pm ET)
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                Jeez, are you being serious? You didn't think I knew Sharrod is black? And Sharrod's skin color is what you focus on? You completely miss the bigger point of the racism exhibited in this person's post. Hey, give 'em a pass if you want, but just know the next time the race cards played us clear thinking people will remember your hypocrisy.

                Actually, nevermind. No point in debating a person such as you anyway conger. You obviously consider yourself to be a victim and I have learned debate is not possible with someone like you. You can't get past the victim-hood thing.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (August 13, 2010 7:43 pm ET)
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                  What are you going on about now? You are not debating you are just making stuff up? What should I be concentrating on with Ms. Sherrod? That she is a courageous women that has fought racism all her life or the part where a vodeo was used to smear her as a racist?

                  Your GOOFY comments are just,well...goofy because I don't see where black people have been in a situation to do to whites what was done to them and is still being done thanks to ignorant fools like yourself. Your reverse the words black with white make no sense. There was no racism in mano's post. How could you reverse or substitue the words black with white an make whats happening or happened accurate? Thats what makes your comment goofy it's never happened that blacks oppressed whites. You only validate mano comments that blacks should have no critque or harbor any feelings about whites actions against them.

                  Pointing out your absurdity and historical and current ignorance is not playing victim quite the contrary it is standing up and not letting your ignorance go unchallenged. It is you who now challenged and called on their bigotry that now trying to hide behind victimhood. . Grow-up and educate yourself and stop playing victim when your ignorance is exposed.
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                  • Author by onementalgiant (August 13, 2010 9:57 pm ET)
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                    Ya know, I really have a hard time believing there are people like you and your MMFA friends who actually think the way you do. It is so far removed from logic it just astounds me. You don't see racist overtones with the following statements?: "White people have a problem with black people holding anything against them, no matter what whites do to us to us." and "But that is not how white society behaves when blacks victimize white people. No, they are vengeful and they will make an example of you."

                    Now, just for you since you're having troulble understanding, I'll repeat with reversing terms: "Black people have a problem with white people holding anything against them, no matter what blacks do to us to us." and "But that is not how black society behaves when whites victimize black people. No, they are vengeful and they will make an example of you. "

                    Having said this, the bigger issue is profiling and/or grouping. This should not be allowed from anyone and I am very surprised so many of you are endorsing and supporting it. You know very well comments like these should be considered racist. I'm old enough to remember some commentators have been fired for saying much less, i.e. Jimmie the Greek. Also, wasn't profiling an issue with the new AZ illegal immigration law?

                    And you have the b-lls to call me ignorant? What a joke.

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                    • Author by mescal (August 14, 2010 1:38 am ET)
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                      You're not just ignorant, gnatty, but astonishingly ignorant. You really don't have the first clue about the racial dynamics that have infected this nation since its beginnings... merely the manipulative and snide whinings of Rush, Dreck, and all of the other racist and reactionary blowhards that make up the right wing media. They're using you, son, and causing you to come off as a smirking, egocentric moron.

                      You really should try reading about America's history... and I don't mean Glenn Dreck revisionist-to-the-point-of-pure-fantasy type history. I mean, why drink mud when you can pour yourself a nice glass of pure water? Try Howard Zinn, for instance. You might just find the reality of America's undeniable contradictions to be quite eye-opening and mind expanding.

                      Otherwise, you're just going to continue on through life as an arrogant and childlike putz.
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                      • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 14, 2010 2:15 am ET)
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                        Nothing more boring than a race-baiting right wing troll, except for a race-baiting right wing troll who's a few years behind on the racist talking points.

                        Using the MLK quote to say the issue of racism should never be brought up because it focuses on the color of skin ? Pretty 2005.

                        Substituting "white" for "black" to completely ignore history ? Wow, oldie but a goodie.

                        Again, I'm very disappointed in the quality of the trolls around here lately. There used to be a couple who, at least, made you think for a second before putting the clown shoes on them.
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                        • Author by mescal (August 14, 2010 2:29 am ET)
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                          Yeah, they have gotten to be a pretty sorry group of visionless spuds lately, haven't they?
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                          • Author by onementalgiant (August 14, 2010 9:23 am ET)
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                            You, conger, AK, and the rest of your bigoted friends can go ahead and come out of your racist closets.

                            BTW, it is because of you people the playing of your race card has little, if any, effect any longer. Clear thinking Americans are sick and tired of you racists.
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                            • Author by mary59 (August 14, 2010 10:25 am ET)
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                              Sorry, I think you've been effectively seen through. Good luck with your upside down view of reality, and your job interview with the white rabbit.
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                              • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 14, 2010 11:46 am ET)
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                                Why do we rarely see the term "Teh Race Card" used except by those defending racists and trying to rationalize their own racism ?

                                Very effective job by the right wing media, in comforting chumps like mentalgnat. They've actually convinced these " clear-thinking Americans" that any time somebody notices their confusion and bigotry, it's some sort of gimmick.

                                What sort of mis-wired, malleable brain can be talked into believing that the more times their malfunctions are pointed out, the less evidence there is of the problem ?

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                                • Author by onementalgiant (August 14, 2010 2:18 pm ET)
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                                  Look, I know it is pointless to attempt to convince you lefties with logic and reasonableness. If I have learned anything from reading all the posts on this message board, it is how far you all are removed from rationality. The good news is there are only about 20% who ID themselfs as liberal - and falling. More and more Ameicans are coming to realize just how much liberals (especially Obama) have done to erode our once great Country.

                                  So my posts are not intended to chamge any of your feeble minds. This is impossible because you people have mental issues. I post to aggrivate you - and it really is effective. In fact, the more logical my posts are the more it bugs you! Proof is the racist statements made by mano that started this whole string of posts which you lefties have twisted into me being the racist. If a white person had said what he said about any "group" they would rightfully be accused of racism. No matter how you try to spin it, his post was a bigoted, racist statement.

                                  Nonetheless, all 50 or so of you MMFA readers have a great weekend!
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                                  • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 14, 2010 2:55 pm ET)
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                                    I post to aggrivate you - and it really is effective


                                    We may laugh at you for not being able to spell "aggravate", but I don't think anybody's really bothered by your delusions regarding logic.

                                    Anybody who visits this site is aware of the dumbing down of our country, as reflected in the mainstream conservative media, and people like you who are subservient to it.

                                    You may take some pride in being in the bottom 80% of the country, but I don't think you'd be too happy with the results if your numbers continue to grow.

                                    If you haven't seen the movie Idiocracy, I'd highly recommend it.

                                    Have a great weekend, and try not to stick anything sharp in your eye.
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    • Author by seahawks123 (August 13, 2010 4:06 pm ET)
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      None of you made a big deal when Sen. KKK Byrd used the word. But then again he was a lib. She did appologize. I thought it was libs that were the compassionate ones. We all know that's BS.

      www.blackelectorate.com/articles.asp?ID=337

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FIBJt-c2o0

      www.thenewamerican.com/.../3994-lets-be-hones-about-sen-robert-byrd
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (August 13, 2010 4:26 pm ET)
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        zzzzzzzzzz....are you ever going to give us Side B, Seamoron?

        With you it's always same sh$t, different day. Get a life.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (August 13, 2010 5:06 pm ET)
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          I know tired and old. Sen Thurmond from SC got the 15yr old daughter of his black maid pregnant and had a child by her(kept her secret for all those years until he died) all the while proclaiming that it would be a cold day in hades and over his dead body before he'd let a n-word move in next door to him,sit at a lunch counter with him,go to school with his kids(go figure that)or swim in the same pool and he was eulogized by no other than the speaker of the house Trent Lott for being a great man who if we had elected President we would not have had all these problems through all these years. I used to get sick of people like mentalmidget and Seahound but now their ignorance and peurile comments just amuse me.
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 13, 2010 5:31 pm ET)
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            And when his granddaughter decided to speak out about her ties to Thurmond last year, guess who was trying to force her to shut up?

            Good old Addison "Joe" "YOU LIE" Graves Wilson.

            Imagine that.

            All of this was reported in South Carolina's largest newspaper, The State.
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        • Author by seahawks123 (August 14, 2010 2:00 am ET)
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          nice rebuttle.
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        • Author by usp (August 14, 2010 10:30 pm ET)
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          a man has to write prescriptions...i mean really- the dude is a bone doctor.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 14, 2010 2:18 am ET)
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        None of you made a big deal when Sen. KKK Byrd used the word


        I doubt most people here were alive when he used it in any derogatory context. Why don't you and mentalgnat go find a doctor that will sew your brains together, and donate the result to a chimp who's tired of thinking too much ?
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    • Author by seraphim (August 13, 2010 4:52 pm ET)
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      I think one of the most interesting parts of this conversation is Dr. Laura's response to Jade's neighbors comments. Asking a black person "how do you black people feel about...?" is offensive. Nobody ever assumes that all white people have the same opinion simply because they are the same race. I think this is one of the strongest and most undiscussed points of racism in our society; the idea that all black people are responsible for the thoughts and actions of each other. If a white person commits a crime nobody ever thinks to say, "that's white people for you" however I cannot tell you how many times I have heard people insinuate that a black persons criminal behavior is an extension of their race. I almost think Dr. Laura's claim that what the neighbor said isn't racist is worse than using the n word because it is a more sneaky and insidious form of ignorance and racism. Also, to act as if it is justifiable to feel this way because all black people voted for Obama is just ridiculous, untrue and logically flawed. Yes, black people tend to vote for democrats, whether they are black or not. The reason isn't because all black people are the same, it is more likely because conservative politicians have embraced tactics like the southern strategy, among other things. Republicans construct a divisive strategy and then whine about why black people don't seem to vote for them. It is all too easy to blame everyone else, but maybe Dr. Laura should heed her own advice and take responsibility in that conservatives like her often support those who have greatly helped to perpetuate the racial chasm in this country.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 13, 2010 5:32 pm ET)
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        Very well stated.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (August 13, 2010 6:42 pm ET)
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        I agree good post and insight.
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      • Author by clams casino (August 13, 2010 6:45 pm ET)
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        Going over the transcript again, it's easy to argue that every single argument Dr. Laura made in her rant was, at its core, racist. She came right out of the gate with the one you noted, before she even spat out the first "n****r," but really, every single thing she threw at the caller was ridiculously racist, from "black think" to "don't NAACP me," to her bizarre non sequitur about Obama and her advice not to marry outside one's own race.
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        • Author by seraphim (August 13, 2010 7:25 pm ET)
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          Thanks guys! And clams I totally agree. The whole conversation is quite an astounding mess in it's absolute and blinding ignorance on Dr. Laura's part. I think she made up her mind about how she was going to respond to this woman's call right from the start when she immediately demands examples of racism and hints of hypersensitivity. I don't think this lady called to have a debate about race, rather she only wanted advice on how to handle her husbands insensitivity. Dr. Laura is the one who made this about race relations and the n word, which tells you immediately that her bigotry is much stronger than her desire to help people, or whatever it is that she does. I don't understand why anyone cares about white people not being "allowed" to say the n word anyways. I am not black and I have no urge to say the n word so any hypocrisy in it being more acceptable for black people to use that word is a moot point for me. If you don't want to use the word why would you ever care that you're not supposed to anyway? This is a golden example that Dr. Laura is completely inept and unqualified to be doling out advice to anyone. If she actually knew anything about helping people heal their problems she would know that her opinion on whether what was said to this lady is racist doesn't matter, it only matters how it makes her feel and how she can handle the situation in a healthy way.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (August 13, 2010 8:00 pm ET)
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            Wow! So true and simply put. Thanks again for your insightful post.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 14, 2010 2:28 am ET)
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            The whole conversation is quite an astounding mess in it's absolute and blinding ignorance on Dr. Laura's part.


            That's what's interesting about it. I'm a white guy, and I was just floored when I first heard this knothead and her arrogant and ignorant freakout.

            The type of people who listen to Dr. Laura and the rest of wingnut radio have been so well-conditioned with "reverse racism" and "the race card" that they don't see this as anything but reasonable.

            And I don't know how much racism is really simmering in Dr. Laura, this may have been a very misguided attempt at some "tough love", that amplified a smaller degree of racism in her.

            But the reactions by her defenders tell a lot about how the racism apologists have been training their followers. I've seen at least a couple of posters at this site who insist they don't see any racism in Shlessinger's remarks.

            And the bar has just been raised ( or lowered) a bit, to the point where they won't see it when the next right wing host kicks it up another notch. They're like the frog in the gradually boiling water.
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            • Author by onementalgiant (August 14, 2010 9:48 pm ET)
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              "That's what's interesting about it. I'm a white guy, and I was just floored when I first heard this knothead and her arrogant and ignorant freakout."

              Well looky here, I am in complete agreement with at least one comment from liberal AK! As I said in a prior post above, I've always considered Dr. Laura to be a quack.

              Other then this, AK is indeed a typical liberal with twisted logic, such as considering the group with an 80% majority to be in the "bottom part of the country".
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    • Author by dunman1 (August 13, 2010 6:40 pm ET)
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      Dr Laura,
      You have missed the point completely, your comments were offensive yes, I personally don't even like the sound of your voice. But your apology is a complete blunder, thats shows your delusions of grandeur, and inability to see past your own nose. You should be apologizing to the caller that you maligned demeaned and ignored while She was graciously trying to save you from your self.
      You are horrible!
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    • Author by slowtyper (August 14, 2010 3:34 pm ET)
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      I listened to this hack("Dr" Laura) once..about 20 or so years ago..for about 15mins..until this incident i managed to live a productive relatively happy life..in spite of 12 years of reagan/bush..and 8 years of bush..without a second wasted on contemplating the bigotry and hypocrisy of the radio clowns we so often find ourselves confronted with..

      this "Dr" simply belongs on the ever growing list of those that exemplify all that's wrong in America..
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